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Off the books payment probe has resulted in a thunder of justice event – and so now the big apple entices Florida man to home detention in Trump Towers.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/03/30/nyregion/trump-indictment-news
Just to ask – everyone knows the photo used in this piece is a fake, right?
Anyway, they got Capone for tax and it looks like they’ll get Trump on hush money, funny how the world turns.
Hopefully this does have legs. And, I have no sympathy for Trump whatsoever if he gets what is coming to him. But, I saw a bit of legal analysis from the US on this a few days ago that thought the hush money accusation was a bit half baked. So, I guess we will wait and see with anticipation.
Half baked? The roast turkey is hardly in the oven.
Trump is facing legal situations in New York to do with financial fraud by his company. Claims have been made for the payment of $US250 million.
There are serious charges about the taking of classified documents to Mar-a-Lago, the alleged toying with authorities about the possession and return of them and extended malfeasance around the issue.
The January 6 Committee has accused Trump of inciting insurrection and other crimes. That is the subject of heavy investigation.
Interference in the election in Georgia. Let alone the actual allegations there are ongoing other aspects such as a special grand jury believing “one or more witnesses” committed perjury. Another multi-faceted case.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61084161
Sure. That is the substantive stuff. I was talking more about this specific charge.
I really dislike Trump, and all the associated drama. So, you have no argument from me so far as him being charged is concerned.
What worries me is there are worse people "waiting in the wings".
Like most Narcissists Trump shifts the blame then rages never accepts responsibility . But all his kings horses and all his men can't save humptytrumpty again. This time everyone is turning on him. Trumps rhetoric and the baseball bat post threatining the prosecutor will end badly for Trump.Over 1,000 of his MAGA followers have been prosecuted from Jan 6 .All crying that they were easily lead judges aren't buying it . Most insurectionists have lost jobs , income ,housing , savings spending time in jail. Now Maga supporters are thinning out realizing that following Trumps dog whistle to violence has lifetime damage to their financial and community standing.Trumps days are numbered especially when Murdoch writes an opinion in his NY Post calling Trump deranged.
Apparently, https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/03/23/donald-trump-shares-fake-ai-created-image-of-himself-on-truth-social/?sh=71c680fc71f6
Well I never thought Trump would "Take the Knee"!
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/487072/trump-hit-with-criminal-charges-in-new-york-a-first-for-a-us-ex-president
” This is political persecution and interference at the highest level. I’m completely innocent” he says. 🙂
I think that smiley face may be a little premature. Let's hope the cops don't handcuff Trump??
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/27/donald-trump-ron-desantis-election-polls-2024
And I can only quote the famous Mandy Rice-Davies (Profumo affair) quote in response to Trump's claim
"Well he would, wouldn't he?"
Surely perplexing that state prosecutors are dealiing with indictments far faster than the DoJ ones, and yet DoJ has been provided with exhaustive evidence on multiple levels by the Bipartisan Senate panel on Jan 6 insurrection, and the further panel on a bunch of other matters.
Well that just fired up his base.
Another win for the plaid crowd of stupidity.
https://youtu.be/ww47bR86wSc
Speed is surely inherent if justice is to be achieved.
If they can indict and lock up coup plotters in Peru of all places nice and accurate and fast, then on face of it Peru has a more just political system than the United States.
Merrick Garland needs a rocket.
Spare a thought for Putin, his year is going from bad to worse.
Hmm good point I need a new picture for my dartboard
no matter how bad NZ politics get, at least we hav`nt had ( so far)an orange freak like that for Prime Minister.
Muldoon came the closest to it although he didn't have orange hair. I don't think he had much hair at all.
Little crooked donald indicted huh. Lock him up, lock him up
Mango Mussolini will no doubt squiggle out again one way or another is my prediction unfortunately.
That is his modus operandi, and it will be aided by the massive conflicts of interest, fractured accountability lines, multiple jurisdictions, and likely years of convoluted legal process that operate in the Yoo Ess Ayy. A Grand Jury is just the beginning.
lol
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1641574000215179266
https://twitter.com/dr_yusefsalaam/status/1641557733701812225
ouch
Regardless, if Trump is not charged for his Georgia phone call – I will not regard the USA as a place where the rule of law applies.
The whole world knows he is corrupt.
Legal issues of this kind seem to take for ever to get sorted out in the USA. I reckon Trump could well be dead by the time anything in the nature of a trial is ready to go ahead.
In any case, he's irrelevant now, and possibly always was. While he was out front, providing the necessary distraction, the real nasties in the background quietly got on with implementing their agenda. Supreme Court stacked for a generation: check. Countless other lower-level conservative judges into place: check. Gerrymandering of state electoral boundaries: check. Now he can be tossed to the lions.
The best response is to make the election day a public holiday, so more people vote – like in real democracies.
People can vote and that’s enough to earn the label ‘democracy in action’ and claim your ‘mandate’ to push through your own agenda as hard and as much as you can in the little time you are in office.
For important decisions, it is common to have a quorum to ensure proper representation, but not so with elections in a representative democracy. All that matters is that you have more vote than your nearest rival has if there even is another contender.
Do you mean all that matters is that if you have more votes than your nearest rival has if there even is another contender and the people believe those who counted the votes?
Having more votes seemingly can be ruled out by aggressive action in the eyes of many.
Unsurpisingly the southern states seem to be the ones making it more difficult to vote.
https://www.lgbtmap.org/democracy-maps/election_day_holiday_paid_time_off_to_vote
They obviously want democracy, the GOP-way.
From anti-trust legislation to income tax, there has been resistance to government regulation of business and private income/wealth.
But since the Democratic Party concept of the Great Society, the GOP has taken it to the next level. With the southern strategy of of the 1970's, it has become resistance to any Capitol Hill government not representative of the south.
Thus the culture wars, tax cuts, and obstruction of federal budgets since then – and onto the birther movement against POTUS Obama (and related demographic threat).
So despite SCOTUS having a GOP appointed majority and a multitude of young judges appointed by Trump, the target of GOP politicians is now any criminal liability of politicians to the justice system.
Nicole Hemmer, director of the Rogers Center for the American Presidency at Vanderbilt University, warned that Republican attacks on the U.S. criminal justice system could ultimately have dire consequences for courts and juries.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2023/04/republicans-defend-donald-trump-by-attacking-criminal-justice-system.html