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Wee gripe: crime-porn

Written By: - Date published: 9:59 am, July 18th, 2009 - 27 comments
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This endless crime-porn. Night after night of fetishistic coverage of the latest unusual crime or trial. Call yourselves journalists? Bollocks. You run this because it’s titallating and it’s cheap. There’s no news value. And there’s certainly no respect for the people whose lives are at the centre.

You don’t get these are real human beings. Real tragedies. To you it’s all just a soap opera. A ratings grabber. You don’t even understand that you’re just turning more and more people off your vapid, vampiric mediums every day.

They should never have allowed cameras into courtrooms. Just enables these pornographers who call themselves journalists.

27 comments on “Wee gripe: crime-porn”

  1. ghostwhowalks 1

    The Chief Justices comments about Courts being angry places these days, made me think are the cameras ( and their need for raw emotion ) making the ‘anger’ worse.
    Surely its allways been there. The guillotines were operated in public to great effect. Part of the appeal of court ‘news’ is its certainity: send a reporter who is guaranteed a story. Big earthquakes are much less likely

    More and more of public events are scripted for the cameras its not surprising they are taking over the court process as well.
    jury verdicts at 6:05PM any one ?

  2. Ianmac 2

    We do still turn on the TV News at 6, but don’t really watch for the first 10 minutes or so because it will be crime and accidents and maybe a bit of news after that, and then sport which does not excite- so why bother! I get more news online and topical discussions via Blog-sites especially The Standard.
    Note by the way Fran O’Sullivan actually largely supporting the Elias discussion!
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10585121

  3. no leftie 3

    Can I ask what you think news is?

    If it isn’t what’s happening in the world today, what is it?

    Don’t hide behind nonsense slogans like “crime-porn”, say something that actually means something.

    • Draco T Bastard 3.1

      He did – you just didn’t get it (or you’re purposefully avoiding it).

    • Zetetic 3.2

      You don’t get what is meant by ‘crime-porn’? Oh dear.

      The coverage of crime for titillation, shock, excitement rather than for the purpose of informing

  4. Johnno 4

    Having spent a lot of time in various courtrooms (District, High and Appeal), I firmly believe the cameras in court have made little or no difference to the way trials are conducted. Lawyers really have their eyes on the prize – the verdict. Any grandstanding or theatrics are done for the benefit of the jury. You would be surprised at how little the courtroom activities change when the cameras are in court. The real difference in behaviour occurs when the jury is out of the room. All of a sudden the defendant, who had been sitting upright and paying attention, will pick up a novel, or close their eyes.

    I wouldn’t make a judgement as to the news value of various trials. That is something that I would leave to the experts. There are certain legal problems with allowing all media other than television cameras in to court. You either ban them all, or none of them. However, I would say that the difference between what happens in court and what is reported each night on the TV news can be quite marked. Trials are often characterised by very boring detailed testimony. A courtroom can be a very dull place. There seems to be great degree of self-censorship conducted by the broadcast journalists. Some of the things you hear can be quite disturbing, the images placed before the jury are harrowing. It is very rare, in my experience, for a TV report to get even close to the horror that sometimes is shown or talked about in the courtroom. Day after day of SOCO photos projected onto the court screens makes for grim type of humour amongst court staff, and in my observations that sometimes extends to the journalists covering the case.

  5. coolas 5

    Spot on. Coverage of Weatherstone trial hit a new low. Totally irresponsible. Vicarious entertainment. Real life sordid drama served up like a ‘reality’ production. Sick. And if W is a narcissistic compulsive he was rewarded for his crime by all the publicity.

    We’ve always had tabloid journalism appealing the gossip & voyeur in us, but it’s growth and popularity is a bit like the rise of Junk Food. We’re swamped and a whole bunch of people have been sucked in, addicted to shite, and think it’s real. So too with the media seeking the lowest common denominator and abandoning its responsibility as the 4th Estate.

    • So Bored 5.1

      Well said Coolas, I was left feeling tainted and unclean after watching a murderer blame his victim, her poor family having that whole episode on air must have been devastated. Its a fine line for the media to judge what they show, IMHO in this case they definitely got it wrong.

      Zet, this gripe really hits home. Im sick of crime TV.

    • coolas – look at it from another perspective – there won’t be a crim in any NZ prison who doesn’t know who CW is now, and doesn’t know what he admitted doing to SE (I don’t think that could be prejudicial to a fair trial) – when CW is finally sentenced, and sent off to “get over it” (his words- not mine btw), he will have all the attention he can handle, and quite a bit more. Ain’t karma wonderful?

    • blacksand 5.3

      yeah, it kind of mystifies me as to why we get a photo of him every single day in the Dompost. New photo, same face, same expression. Pretty much the same story too. Stretches the meaning of ‘news’ does it not?

  6. RedLogix 6

    Many years ago I was told a piece of wisdom by an American friend who had worked in the media industry all his life. He told me that ‘whatever you tolerate on your TV screens, you will have to tolerate in your homes and streets 10-15 years later.’.

    It was a long time ago that he told me that, and in that time his words have been proven in my mind fairly accurate.

  7. stormspiral 7

    You’re not wrong. I’ve spent a few years (as in 50 or so active years) taking part in and watching the 4th Estate, and have seen the shift from responsible public right-to-know journalism to a salacious, sensationalist ‘feed the public appetite for gossip and disaster, and watch the victims weep; “..if we can’t get ’em to cry, there must be something wrong with them”.’ It’s all about spectacle. Nothing much has changed since rhe gladiators of Rome, and for as far back as we can imagine. But there’s more of it these days. Progress or retrogression?

    We can’t go back to other days, but surely we can be aware of what’s happening, and make a fuss about it. That’s the first step toward awareness and change.

    Whether cameras affect Court proceedings isn’t relevant to this argument, not while we’ve got people like Sian Elias. What is relevant is we don’t have to wallow in it, and call it news. It’s not news; it’s voyeurism.

    And it’s not about censorship either; it’s about responsibility and commonsense.

    • Ag 7.1

      You’re right that it is the public appetite that fuels these things, so why not blame the public? No one ever wants to do that, and so we have conspiracy theories about the media leading with crime, when people just like to watch violence.

  8. stormspiral 8

    Not. Responsibility and ethics versus appetite? Tail wagging the dog?

  9. no leftie 9

    Nothing to add eh.

    I thought so.

    Those in the news media will take a lot of notice of an opinion you’re not even prepared to explain let alone defend.

    Oh and Draco, bitching about what you don’t like isn’t saying what you don’t want.

    • stormspiral 9.1

      Oh yes plenty of substantivce comment could be added, but I’ll just illustrate by simple analogy.

      Free choice no restraints, anything the public wants, because they create the demand

      ergo, child pornographers should be encouraged, because of course, there’s a demand for their services. Their activities simply fulfill this need.

      and ‘No Leftie’, please don’t make personal or derogatary comments when somebody has a different point of view from yours.

      The subject of your comments I find somewhat tedious, and will not reply to this kind of arrogance again. I have better, more constructive thibgs to do.

    • Zetetic 9.2

      I hadn’t replied because I wasn’t around. I scheduled this post on Friday for Saturday.

      Still not much to add because I think the post speaks for itself and everyone else seems have understood.Most seem to agree.

  10. jcuknz 10

    I have recently reduced my TV watching to simply the news and switch off when sport arrives and with the Christchurch trial I have used the mute button until I see the front person again. I’m also sick of being reminded of the number of knife blows every time the trial is mentioned on radio. I am sure it is all what many want but I don’t think it says much for them.

  11. T 11

    I totally agree. The Weatherston trial is the worst. The media are treating it like a soap opera. The news is the worst with updates like “Find out what Weatherston said about his sex life with Sophie Elliot after the break”.

    The public also doesn’t need to know every single detail about her injuries. She deserves dignity in death not pages upon pages of body parts and blood.

  12. Turn off the TV 12

    If TV offers you nothing of value, then get your news from somewhere else. Choose a medium that lets you decide what news you receive.

    This is the first I’ve heard of the Weatherston trial, because

    * I don’t have a TV – by choice
    * I don’t read the crime section of stuff.co.nz or nzherald.co.nz and only skim the headlines of the ‘national news’ section.

  13. no leftie 13

    Here’s a tip for all those who don’t want to know things like what bad people do to other people.

    Don’t watch, don’t listen and don’t read.

    Problem solved – no nasties to invade your world.

    The rest of us will go on learning more about the world we live in, regardless of how sad some of those stories are.

    • felix 13.1

      I don’t think you understand what’s being discussed – do you think that crimes and car accidents are the most important things that happen every day?

  14. no leftie 14

    That gets me back to where I came in…

    “Can I ask what you think news is?”

    You seem to know what you don’t want, but have yet to offer an alternative.

    • Pascal's bookie 14.1

      Well one of the classic definitions of news is ‘anything that someone doesn’t want you to know’, so that’s a good place to start. It rules out any story that basically just runs a press release.

      It also should be ‘new’, in the sense of novel, or at the least a development of an ongoing story. 3news tonight ran a few minutes on the Weatherston trial, rounding up what happened last week and saying that this week will be the end of it so be sure to tune in. So that’s not news in either sense. It’s an ad.

      They also told us that it snowed again in Dunedin and that there are some gizmo’s you can buy to attach to your shoes so as to not fall over, though some locals prefer to remain with the time honoured method of wearing some socks over your shoes, that while not as technological has the benefit of frugality assuming the socks are old ones. Other folk down there like the snow as it is beautiful, whilst others still, see the snow as a reminder that spring is on the way.

      The US is asking us to send the SAS to the AF/PAK theatre. Have been asking for some time. The government, Key tells us, is yet to make up it’s mind although apparently Key thinks the bombings in Indonesia are related. I guess our government is trying to work out whether or not it’s a good idea, and whether or not the NZ public think it’s a good idea.

      I think it would be an excellent idea if our news organisations ran a few minutes on the AF/PAK theatre every night. There is no shortage of news from there, nor is there as shortage of pundits that will be willing to help make sense of it all by offering informed opinion from many angles.

      But the only news we get from there is if a bomb happens to go off next to some kiwis. That certainly is news and we should be hearing about it, but we should be hearing much, much more.

  15. no leftie 15

    3 News on a Sunday night isn’t a good example as weekend staffing is always very thin and the insane desire to inflict an hour of news on viewers means even more filler than usual.

    No one is brave enough to say the “news hours” that emerged in the 90s are a bad idea.

    However they got Duncan Garner back in the office to do the story on the canning of folic acid and I can’t imagine anyone complaining about that – content aside.

    The rest was totally disposable. I record the news every night and rip through it all in 20 minutes if that.

    Investigative news is indeed the best but the days of having reporters being able to spend days/weeks/months digging up the goods to bring down a government are fading fast.

  16. Pascal's bookie 16

    “However they got Duncan Garner back in the office to do the story on the canning of folic acid and I can’t imagine anyone complaining about that content aside.”

    heh. Yeah the obligatory live cut to an empty parliament for Garner to say nothing that couldn’t be said by gingercrush on his toilet.

  17. T 17

    Here’s a tip for all those who don’t want to know things like what bad people do to other people.

    Don’t watch, don’t listen and don’t read.

    Way to totally miss the point there buddy.

    News should be what the public needs to know. In the case of the Weatherston trial they don’t need to know the full extent of Elliot’s injuries in gruesome detail over and over and over again. They don’t need to know about Elliot’s sexual history. They don’t need her diary published. They don’t need close-ups of her parents crying.

    All they need to know is what the basic argument of the Defence and Crown. Then the verdict. The end. Done and dusted.

    They don’t need to cater to the sick fucks desperate to know exactly which body parts she lost. Especially the sick fucks who hide behind a ‘need to know about the world’ attitude.

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  • Freshwater commissioners and fast-track consenting convenor appointed
    Professor Peter Skelton CNZM has been appointed as Chief Freshwater Commissioner and Alternate Environment Court Judge Craig James Thompson as Deputy Chief Freshwater Commissioner for the newly established Freshwater Planning Process (FPP). Environment Minister David Parker today also announced the appointment of Chief Environment Court Judge Laurie Newhook as the ...
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    3 days ago
  • Appointment of Judge of the High Court
    Auckland Queen’s Counsel Neil Campbell has been appointed a Judge of the High Court, Attorney‑General David Parker announced today. Justice Campbell graduated with a BCom and LLB (Hons) from the University of Auckland in 1992. He spent two years with Bell Gully Buddle Weir in Auckland before travelling to the United ...
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    3 days ago
  • Feedback sought – Commercial Film and Video Production Facilities
    The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Poto Williams, is seeking feedback on a proposal to better enable the development and operation of commercial film and video facilities in Christchurch. The Proposal, developed by Regenerate Christchurch in response to a request from Christchurch City Council, asks that powers under section ...
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    3 days ago
  • Govt launches bold primary sector plan to boost economic recovery
    The Government has launched a bold plan to boost primary sector export earnings by $44 billion over the next decade, while protecting the environment and growing jobs. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today released Fit for a Better World – Accelerating our Economic Potential, a 10-year roadmap to unlock greater value ...
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    3 days ago
  • Wellbeing of whanau at heart of new hub
    A new approach to prevent family harm that encourages greater collaboration across government and community groups is being celebrated at the opening of a new facility in Auckland. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today opened the Multi-Disciplinary Family Harm Prevention Hub Te Taanga Manawa in Lambie Road in Manukau. The facility ...
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    3 days ago
  • New Report on Auckland Port Relocation
    The Government has released a major new report on the options for relocating the Port of Auckland’s freight operations while deferring any decision on the issue. “That decision needs to be informed by policy analysis that is still to be completed. As a result it will be up to a ...
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    3 days ago
  • Dual place names for Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula features
    The history of Rāpaki is being restored through the inclusion of te reo in thirteen official place names on Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula and around Lyttelton Harbour/Whakaraupō, the Minister for Land Information, Eugenie Sage, announced today.   “I am pleased to approve the proposals from Te Hapū o Ngāti ...
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  • Government and Air New Zealand agree to manage incoming bookings
    Bookings for seats on Air New Zealand flights into New Zealand will be managed in the short term to ensure the Government is able to safely place New Zealanders arriving home into a managed isolation or quarantine facility, says Housing Minister Megan Woods.  “Last week Air Commodore Darryn Webb and I ...
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  • $80 million for sport recovery at all levels
    Grant Robertson has today announced the first major release of funding from the $265 million Sport Recovery Package announced at Budget 2020.  “Today we’re setting out how $80 million will be invested, with $54 million of that over the 2020/2021 financial year for organisations from community level through to elite ...
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    3 days ago
  • Keeping ACC levies steady until 2022
    The Government is maintaining current levy rates for the next 2 years, as part of a set of changes to help ease the financial pressures of COVID-19 providing certainty for businesses and New Zealanders, ACC Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “New Zealanders and businesses are facing unprecedented financial pressures as a ...
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    4 days ago
  • Extended loan scheme keeps business afloat
    Small businesses are getting greater certainty about access to finance with an extension to the interest-free cashflow loan scheme to the end of the year. The Small Business Cashflow Loan Scheme has already been extended once, to 24 July. Revenue and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash says it will be ...
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    5 days ago
  • New investment creates over 2000 jobs to clean up waterways
    A package of 23 projects across the country will clean up waterways and deliver over 2000 jobs Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Environment Minister David Parker announced today. The $162 million dollar package will see 22 water clean-up projects put forward by local councils receiving $62 million and the Kaipara ...
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    5 days ago
  • Speech to Labour Party Congress 2020
    Tena koutou katoa  Nga tangata whenua o tenei rohe o Pōneke, tena koutou Nau mai, haere mai ki te hui a tau mo te roopu reipa Ko tatou!  Ko to tatou mana!  Ko to tatou kaupapa kei te kokiri whakamua  Tena koutou, tena koutou, tena tatou katoa   Welcome. I ...
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  • PGF top-up for QE Health in Rotorua
    The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing $1.5 million to ensure QE Health in Rotorua can proceed with its world class health service and save 75 existing jobs, Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development, Fletcher Tabuteau announced today. The PGF funding announced today is in addition to the $8 million ...
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    7 days ago
  • Building a more sustainable construction sector
    A new programme, which sets a firm course for the Building and Construction sector to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions, has been announced by the Minister for Building and Construction Jenny Salesa. “A significant amount of New Zealand’s carbon emissions come from the building and construction sector.  If we’re serious ...
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    7 days ago
  • PGF funds tourism boost in Northland
    The Provincial Growth Fund is investing more than $7.5 million in Northland ventures to combat the economic impact of the COVID-19 virus, Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones have announced. The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) investment is going to the Northern Adventure Experience and ...
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    7 days ago
  • Four new projects announced as part of the biggest ever national school rebuild programme
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Education Minister Chris Hipkins today announced significant funding for Auckland’s Northcote College as part of the first wave of a new nationwide school redevelopment programme to upgrade schools over the next 10 years. The $48.5 million project brings the total investment in Northcote College to ...
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    7 days ago
  • COVID-19: Support to improve student attendance and wellbeing
    The Government has opened an urgent response fund to support schools and early learning services to get children and young people back on track after the Covid-19 lockdown. “While we are seeing improvements in attendance under Alert Level 1 Ministry of Education data shows that attendance rates in our schools ...
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    7 days ago
  • Fast-track consenting law boosts jobs and economic recovery
    The law to boost the economic recovery from the impact of COVID-19 by speeding up resource consenting on selected projects has passed its second and third readings in the House today. “Accelerating nationwide projects and activities by government, iwi and the private sector will help deliver faster economic recovery and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Whanganui Port gets PGF boost
    Five port-related projects in Whanganui will receive a $26.75 million Provincial Growth Fund investment to support local economic recovery and create new opportunities for growth, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This is a significant investment that will support the redevelopment of the Whanganui Port, a project governed ...
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    1 week ago
  • More support for Sarjeant Gallery
    Whanganui’s Sarjeant Gallery will receive an investment of up to $12 million administered by the Provincial Growth Fund to support its redevelopment, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. The project is included in a $3 billion infrastructure pipeline announced by Finance Minister Grant Robertson and Shane Jones yesterday. ...
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  • Funding for training and upskilling
    The Provincial Growth Fund is investing nearly $2.5 million into three Te Ara Mahi programmes to support Manawatū-Whanganui jobseekers and employees to quickly train and upskill, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “Up to 154 local people will be supported into employment within the first year by these ...
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    1 week ago
  • Statement from the Minister of Health Dr David Clark
      This morning I have formally tendered my resignation as Minister of Health, which was accepted by the Prime Minister. Serving as Minister of Health has been an absolute privilege – particularly through these extraordinary last few months. It’s no secret that Health is a challenging portfolio. I have given ...
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    1 week ago
  • Scholarship placements for agricultural emissions scientists doubles
    Scholarships for 57 early-career agricultural emissions scientists from 20 developing countries is another example of New Zealand’s international leadership in primary sector sustainability, says Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor. Mr O’Connor, announcing the scholarships today, says hundreds of applications were received for this fourth round of the CLIFF-GRADS programme (Climate, Food ...
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    1 week ago
  • Funding for Foxton regeneration
    A project to help rejuvenate the Horowhenua town of Foxton will receive a Provincial Growth Fund investment of $3.86 million, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This funding for the Foxton Regeneration project will be used to make the well-known holiday town even more attractive for visitors and ...
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    1 week ago