Will the real John Key please stand up?

Written By: - Date published: 6:20 pm, November 28th, 2007 - 50 comments
Categories: john key - Tags:

Linda Clark: “This is a gimmick, that’s all it is. if people don’t know John Key, well he needs to come to Parliament more, he needs to be more upfront on some of the policies, he needs to take on Helen Clark a bit more, then we’ll all know the real John Key”.

50 comments on “Will the real John Key please stand up? ”

  1. The Double Standard 1

    Well, good thing there is almost a year before the next election eh?

    Plenty of time to further improve his profile.

    I notice that Aussie’s were still asking “Who is the real Kevin Rudd?” even after he had been elected PM.

    After all – we know the real Helen Clark – venal, vindictive, thieving, power hungry, grandstanding, forging, etc.

    Honestly, Standardista’s clamouring for John Key to “front up” are about as credible as Michael Cullen proposing tax cuts.

  2. Gruela 2

    Keep up those attacks, Double. They’re really starting to make me more more inclined to vote National.

  3. gobsmacked 3

    Actually the real Helen Clark had already been Cabinet Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, and then Labour leader for six years, before she became PM. People knew what they were voting for, and that’s why she’s won three elections.

    Key is hoping that people won’t know what they’re voting for. That’s a strategy doomed to fail.

  4. redbus 4

    After all – we know the real Helen Clark – venal, vindictive, thieving, power hungry, grandstanding, forging, etc.
    – Just because Hockey players in Canada are evil, doesn’t mean that our Hockey star Helen Clark on the NZ girls Hockey team is.

  5. thomas 5

    Linda Clark probably dear Leaders liarbour communist sister 🙂

  6. The Prophet 6

    Keep up those attacks, Double. They’re really starting to make me more more inclined to vote National.

    Hmmm Gruela’s vote is influenced by anon internet comments he/she doesn’t like?

    Quite strange really.

    Gruela you’re not Robert Owen/Santa Claws are you?

  7. Gruela 7

    I am Gruela! All cower before me!

  8. The Double Standard 8

    “Keep up those attacks, Double. They’re really starting to make me more more inclined to vote National.”

    I don’t think that anyone that has your communist and anti-media attitudes will ever be voting National. I’d pick you as a Green voter, except that even Keith Locke is probably not repressive enough for you.

    So do try to keep the sarcasm in check.

  9. The Double Standard 9

    BTW, It isn’t this the same Linda Clark “a consultant with national law firm Chapman Tripp” who co-wrote this piece on the EFB in the Herald recently?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/466/story.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10478254&pnum=0

    “Such uncertainly about the true meaning of the proposed law fundamentally erodes the principle of the rule of law.”

    “It might be good business for public law litigators, but it is bad news for the democratic process. Perversely it may also fetter free speech.

    The current cost of a full day at the District Court is about $30,000. That’s a mighty deterrent to anyone with something to say who’s fearful of being challenged by a rival.”

    “The Law Society has called on the Government to send the amended bill back to a select committee for further consideration. That would be the right thing to do.

    Democracy and elections exist for the benefit of citizens, not politicians. Those same citizens should be given the opportunity to review the law that regulates their participation in the electoral process.”

    Hey, at least we know what National’s and John Key’s position is on the EFB – kill it!

  10. the sprout 10

    my my, the fascists really are making a concerted effort to troll this site at the moment. must be hurting them and their employers.

    capcha “clients economies”

  11. the sprout 11

    or maybe just with the failure of the anti-EFB Rights for the Wealthy to Manipulate Elections campaign, and now jonkey’s abject failure at spinning to conceal his vacuity, they’re starting to get a bit worried?

  12. Gruela 12

    Sorry Double, sarcasm being locked into a drawer as I type.

    Actually, I was a Green member back in my early twenties, but their inflexibility and fundamentalism didn’t sit well with me and I drifted away. Right now there’s no party in parliament that really fits my philosophy, so I’ll probably be voting Labour just to keep the New Right out of power. I honestly believe that their free-market policies are no good for New Zealand, and will only result in a widening of the wealth gap in this country with a resultant upswing in crime and poverty. That’s not the country I want to live in. (Now, if it was still Jim Bolger in charge, instead of JK, then I would probably reconsider.)

  13. Lampie 13

    anti-EFB Rights for the Wealthy to Manipulate Elections campaign

    You mean that gigantic march on Parliment?

  14. gobsmacked 14

    So John Key is on his Heartland Tour (translation: getting away from pesky Wellington journalists) and opens up to the local paper. He reveals that he supports the future, which he hopes will be better, not worse:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/timaruherald/4290709a6571.html

    Key-watchers will notice that on MMP, he resorts to his favourite tactic: he’s in favour of a “debate”.

  15. the sprout 15

    “You mean that gigantic march on Parliment”

    you mean the one attended by about 100 people – which in the end is about the number of NZers the Anti-EFB Rights for the Wealthy to Manipulate Elections campaign actually serves – yeah, that one.

  16. Lee C 16

    Eric Crampton at the March today:

    “Constitutional rules aren’t like other rules. They really require broad agreement across society. I studied under James Buchanan, who won the Nobel Prize in economics for his work in this area. He likened it to setting out the rules for a poker game: you get everybody to agree to the rules before you deal the cards. If everybody’s agreed to the rules before the cards are dealt, the outcome of the game is fair and legitimate. What Labour and its support parties here have done is dealt the cards, taken a peek at their hands, and then declared deuces wild. This violates constitutional justice and threatens the legitimacy of any government that is elected under the new rules.
    Electoral rules – constitutional rules – require broad agreement if the government that’s formed under them is to have legitimacy.”

  17. Lampie 17

    you mean the one attended by about 100 people – which in the end is about the number of NZers the Anti-EFB Rights for the Wealthy to Manipulate Elections campaign actually serves – yeah, that one.

    sorry I blinked and missed it

  18. Lee C 18

    Gruela you are wasted here = visit kiwiblog, http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/11/electoral_finance_bill_marches.html#comment-374112

    you will get the mental stimulation you clearly deserve.

  19. thomas 19

    Eric Crampton at the March today:
    He also nearly plays a mean guitar

  20. Lampie 20

    ok Thomas, think it was you and that mainland titbit. Mr Key mentions we are 22 out of 30 in the OECD. OK been to site, now where do I find that fact, anybody?

    Hate writing those word thingys too at the bottom

  21. Lampie 21

    Is the double mistake really DPF?

  22. r0b 22

    Lee C- Eric Crampton at the March today: “Constitutional rules aren’t like other rules. They really require broad agreement across society. […] Electoral rules – constitutional rules – require broad agreement if the government that’s formed under them is to have legitimacy.”

    I certainly agree that broad agreement is highly desirable for constitutional change. But I also note that it doesn’t always happen that way. Even in NZ. For example, MMP was introduced as a result of a referendum in 1993 (along with the election). 54% in favour of MMP, 46% against. Hardly a “broad agreement across society”. But we adopted MMP anyway, and vastly changed our “constitutional” arrangements. Life went on.

    So post 2005 we were faced with 2 facts: (1) the issue of clandestine money in campaigns needed to be addressed, and (2) National was never going to agree to addressing it. That creates a situation where the only possible outcomes are (a) ignore the problem, or (b) proceed with a majority agreement (but not the agreement of National). We’ve ended up going with (b), which to my mind is the lesser of two evils, but the best that could be done given (2).

  23. Gruela 23

    Lee C

    You and your rightie chums are using a flawed argument against the EFB. Actually, you are using two arguments and although one has merit you are using it as support for the second, flawed argument which is in fact the argument you wish to validate. Therefore, your main argument is flawed and without merit.

    As follows:

    Your first argument, which is valid, is that the EFB is to constrictive in it’s definition of election advertising. I believe this is true. It was badly thought out legislation, and it still needs some tweaking.

    BUT, (and unfortunately this is where your argument falls down), you then go on to use these faults of the EFB to argue that the idea behind the legislation itself is flawed, and the entire Bill itself should be dismissed.

    To argue against the idea of an EFB because of it has been less than spectacularly drafted is no argument at all.

  24. r0b 24

    Once more, with proper tags this time (oops!)…

    Lee C- Eric Crampton at the March today: “Constitutional rules aren’t like other rules. They really require broad agreement across society. […] Electoral rules – constitutional rules – require broad agreement if the government that’s formed under them is to have legitimacy.”

    I certainly agree that broad agreement is highly desirable for constitutional change. But I also note that it doesn’t always happen that way. Even in NZ. For example, MMP was introduced as a result of a referendum in 1993 (along with the election). 54% in favour of MMP, 46% against. Hardly a “broad agreement across society”. But we adopted MMP anyway, and vastly changed our “constitutional” arrangements. Life went on.

    So post 2005 we were faced with 2 facts: (1) the issue of clandestine money in campaigns needed to be addressed, and (2) National was never going to agree to addressing it. That creates a situation where the only possible outcomes are (a) ignore the problem, or (b) proceed with a majority agreement (but not the agreement of National). We’ve ended up going with (b), which to my mind is the lesser of two evils, but the best that could be done given (2).

  25. Historian 25

    Would, by any chance, any of the people now solemnly invoking democracy and the constitution be …

    … the same people who, one year ago, were supporting an online petition calling on the UNELECTED Governor-General, representing the UNELECTED Head of State, to refuse to sign a law passed by the House of ELECTED Representatives? Their only reason being – they didn’t agree with Parliament, and the ends justified the means.

    So much for their love of democracy and constitution.

  26. r0b 26

    G’day Historian. Interesting post!

    And goodnight all.

  27. burt 27

    Historian

    Spin it all you like, passing laws which are retrospective cover a period of 14 years Re: Unauthorised and illegal spending deserves a solid challenge. Just as passing laws making legal what was illegal last election and making illegal what was legal last election deserve a solid challenge. You are pointing at a fine act of democracy, a groups right to petition the state.

    all_your_base

    Great post, I’m not a major fan of Key’s, but I reckon any publicity is good publicity for a new player. The absolute fever you guys are whipping up will absolutely help him spread his message. Even if you think you are shooting him down and the partisan supporters assure you that you are, they are possibly the wrong people to be asking.

  28. Lee C 28

    Gruela – my opposition to the EFB has and always will be that it was drawn up without the proper consulation, from either the public, other Parties or with reference to interested bodies. Presented as ‘not in contravention of our Human Rights’ on questionable legal advice, and then (and now) is being rammed through Parliament. Even MMP, by Rob’s own admission had a referendum.
    As for the issue of clandestine money in elections – there are those who disagree with the ‘simplistic assumption’ that this is the case. (http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/)
    The neat little package of Appropriations Bill and EFB will be a Thief’s Charter for Government. Example If a Party overspends at the next election, it will have no sanction against it, So for example, WInston can now pay back his overspend, get the interest on it, then do the same again next time – legally – I mean, come on!

    These voices of opposition are not ‘hysterical right-wingers’ we hear so much about, but academics, Lawyers, Human Rights Campaigners, and concerned citizens.

    Even the villification of the EB, in my opinion was a shameful episode from Labour. As others have observed, would they have bullied Muslims in the same manner?.

    This bill (EFBand Appropriations) is shameful as an indictment of corrupt government practice, and abuse of the MMP system, has no intellectual or theoretical support (unless you count Nick Hager – and even he damned the present Bill with faint praise during his ‘book-plug’ (sorry Select-Committee Submission))

    You need to join the dots, and stop being taken for a fool by the politicians, Gruela. If this had been introduced by National and applied tot the unions, gosh imagine how many wuld be marching then! But no, there is a strange silence from the Unions on this. Ever wondered why?

  29. r0b 29

    In theory of democracy we have the concept of avoiding “the tyranny of the majority”. In other words, the rights of minorities must be protected. It’s not the case that the majority should have unlimited power.

    Similarly, in the practice of democracy, we have the concept of “a level playing field”. In other words, the rights of less powerful groups must be protected. It’s not the case that the rich and powerful should have unlimited power.

    Consequently, every functioning democracy has limits and restrictions on campaign spending, to try and create a level playing field. (Those that argue that money can’t buy elections can find a few minor examples to support their cause, but the overwhelming majority of evidence shows that money can and does buy opinions, including elections. Why else do we have an advertising industry? Why else do so many democracies regulate money in campaigning? Money doesn’t buy elections? – Yeah Right.)

    For these reasons, like most democracies, NZ has always had laws governing campaign spending. The EFB represents an attempt to tighten up and modernise those laws. It’s not a fundamental constitutional change (like the introduction of MMP). It’s not an assault on free speech. It doesn’t selectively persecute any minority. It just tidies up existing rules that define the level playing field that is required for democracy.

    National oppose the EFB because it will limit the power of their clandestine money to buy elections. For obvious reasons they dress this fight up in the ill fitting clothes of “free speech”. Well, (in the slightly mangled words of Mandy Rice-Davies) they would, wouldn’t they.

  30. Lee C 30

    Rob thanks for the analysyis as to why the Government spent $69 million on tv ads last election:
    “(Those that argue that money can’t buy elections can find a few minor examples to support their cause, but the overwhelming majority of evidence shows that money can and does buy opinions, including elections. Why else do we have an advertising industry? Why else do so many democracies regulate money in campaigning? Money doesn’t buy elections? – Yeah Right.)”

    Double Standard or ‘Tyranny of the Majority’ I can’t work out which…

  31. Lee C 31

    Some ‘hysterical right-wingers for you:
    “Given the significance of the changes to the electoral funding regime, there is a need for an extended public participation in a more neutral environment to allow for discussion, debate and contestation of core principles. This has not happened with the proposed legislation, and the opportunity for informed authorisation has been lost.” (HRC)
    “The fact that redrafting and brokering is going on amongst political parties as to changes that will be promoted by the Government at the same time as submissions are being sought, excludes public participation and is an anathema to the Select Committee process. and:
    The bill has serious defects, which mean it will not achieve its stated aims. Moreover, it is likely to curtail the legitimate expression of opinions while failing to curb (and potentially even incentivising) clandestine conduct in relation to the electoral process. The bill as a whole represents a backward step in the integrity of democracy in New Zealand.”
    (Law Society)

  32. Lee C 32

    Or as you would have it:

    “It just tidies up existing rules that define the level playing field that is required for democracy.”

    Yeah Right!

  33. Lee C 33

    It doesn’t selectively persecute any minority.

    Not counting ‘chinless scarf-wearers’ of course.

  34. r0b 34

    Lee C – “Rob thanks for the analysyis as to why the Government spent $69 million on tv ads last election”

    That is why electoral legislation distinguishes between electioneering and other forms of advertising and public information. However, I actually agree with you that this creates a grey area and an advantage for the incumbent (whether National or Labour). So I’d be interested in your suggestions as to how to deal with that issue.

    Some ‘hysterical right-wingers for you

    I said no such thing in the post above Lee, please keep it calm. As for those who have raised concerns about the EFB, they fall along a continuum. Some are impartially raising genuine concerns, and so they should. Healthy democracy and so on. Most of the substantive concerns were dealt with by the select committee, though I agree that some procedural concerns remain. It wasn’t an ideal process. At the other end of the spectrum we have clandestine money fighting for its divine right to purchase government, cynically clothed in the mantle of “free speech”. About them my opinion is less than benign.

    “Not counting ‘chinless scarf-wearers’ of course.”

    The EB can still do exactly what they did last time. The only restriction on them is that this time they have to be honest about who is doing it. The same rules apply to all.

  35. r0b 35

    Pesky tags – correctly formatted this time:

    Lee C – “Rob thanks for the analysyis as to why the Government spent $69 million on tv ads last election”

    That is why electoral legislation distinguishes between electioneering and other forms of advertising and public information. However, I actually agree with you that this creates a grey area and an advantage for the incumbent (whether National or Labour). So I’d be interested in your suggestions as to how to deal with that issue.

    Some ‘hysterical right-wingers for you

    I said no such thing in the post above Lee, please keep it calm. As for those who have raised concerns about the EFB, they fall along a continuum. Some are impartially raising genuine concerns, and so they should. Healthy democracy and so on. Most of the substantive concerns were dealt with by the select committee, though I agree that some procedural concerns remain. It wasn’t an ideal process. At the other end of the spectrum we have clandestine money fighting for its divine right to purchase government, cynically clothed in the mantle of “free speech”. About them my opinion is less than benign.

    “Not counting ‘chinless scarf-wearers’ of course.”

    The EB can still do exactly what they did last time. The only restriction on them is that this time they have to be honest about who is doing it. The same rules apply to all.

  36. Lampie 36

    ok Thomas, think it was you and that mainland titbit. Mr Key mentions we are 22 out of 30 in the OECD

    Ok have a bit of an answer from the site myself, Mr Key needs to define this a bit more as which stat this is. There is not a combined overall stat. So Mr Key, which stat are you referring to?

  37. Michael Thomas 37

    People the only thing funny here is that Linda Clark goes on nationwide TV to pontificate about a DVD that she then admits she has never watched!!! Haha what a lightweight – TV3 should fire her as their pundit cos she is not really putting the effort in.

    Cheers

  38. Lee C 38

    Rob so: Re Govt spending:
    “I actually agree with you that this creates a grey area and an advantage for the incumbent (whether National or Labour).”
    But you will let the EFB slide anyway.
    Re The Select Committee:
    “It wasn’t an ideal process.”
    But you will go with it anyway.
    Re the EB:
    “The EB can still do exactly what they did last time. The only restriction on them is that this time they have to be honest about who is doing it.”
    They did consult with the Electoral Commission, then ignored the rules, so the processes to stop them were already in place, but badly applied.
    So the EFB changes nothing there, but you will let that slide.

    ‘Hysterical RIght-wingers’ ok, you didn’t say it, but the Standard is full of references to anyone who has the temerity to oppose the EFB.

    The use of the Select Committee in this case was an abuse of the system.

    It seems to me that the left is already positioning itself for the long struggle it will have to face to get this apalling sham of a law changed after it passes, despite the fact they twisted every argument they could to get it passed. Now it is close to passing, they are already starting to wriggle out of the unsavoury fact that it is flawed and undemocratic, despite the Party Line saying otherwise.

  39. Lee C 39

    However, I actually agree with you that this creates a grey area and an advantage for the incumbent (whether National or Labour). So I’d be interested in your suggestions as to how to deal with that issue.

    Sorry as an afterthought – I’d suggest a more cross-party consultation process on the kind of public information package the electorate needs to see, and a projected budget. It would be a way to exploit the MMP system and train MPs how to use the communications media, as well as put some kind of checks on abuses.

  40. r0b 40

    Lee C – Rob so: Re Govt spending: “I actually agree with you that this creates a grey area and an advantage for the incumbent (whether National or Labour).” But you will let the EFB slide anyway.

    It’s a grey area Lee, the boundary between electioneering and informing the public is very grey indeed. If you think the EFB is complicated and unwieldily now, just imagine what it would have been like if it had tried to take on this too. And I’m sure you don’t want to argue that a government cannot inform the public.

    Sorry as an afterthought – I’d suggest a more cross-party consultation process on the kind of public information package the electorate needs to see, and a projected budget. It would be a way to exploit the MMP system and train MPs how to use the communications media, as well as put some kind of checks on abuses.

    There you go, see, a constructive suggestion, bravo. Mind you, it is dependent on the opposition party being constructively engaged. Which National, sadly, is not. Their only mode is blind negativity. Why else would they vote against tax cuts? Never mind, maybe when Labour is next in opposition they will be a constructive opposition (and of course, maybe they won’t).

    Re The Select Committee: “It wasn’t an ideal process.” But you will go with it anyway.

    Sure will! Because it addressed a problem that needed addressing. Better a bad process than none at all.

    Re the EB: “The EB can still do exactly what they did last time. The only restriction on them is that this time they have to be honest about who is doing it.”
    They did consult with the Electoral Commission, then ignored the rules, so the processes to stop them were already in place, but badly applied. So the EFB changes nothing there, but you will let that slide.

    Be consistent Lee. The EFB either restricts the EB (as you argued above) or changes nothing (as you argue here) but not both.

  41. Lee C 41

    I think we are going in circles.
    I haven’t argued that the EFB restricts the EB, You said it would have no difference on them. I questioned why we should have it then? How is that inconsistent?

    As for the statement that National are too negative to get involved with the discussion, this is a betrayal of the electorate as much by Labour as by National. But to pick up the football and refuse to play, as Labour have done, is like suggesting that because some people refuse to vote, we should do away with democracy, because people are being ‘negative’.

    The Government is elected to show proper leadership and set a proper example – not to massage the rules, for partisan expediency.
    As you handing out praise for positive ideas, how about this for a law such as the eFB?

    Cross party consultation,
    Public consultation
    White Paper
    Draft Bill
    Select Committee
    Vote
    Law.

    I strongly recommend you examine your principles around your attitude to the way the Select Committee process has been used here. “Because it addressed a problem that needed addressing. Better a bad process than none at all.”

    You mean, in your opinion.
    This is the whole crux of my argument and has been so far. We cannot just invent policy and rig procedures to enable it based on ‘the end justifies the means’ as a rationale.

    I say this not because I am looking at it from a politically partisan viewpoint, but because I am concerned that it establishes a dangerous precedent. Especially when money is involved.
    Those who got involved with the construction of the EFB did so for the wrong reasons.
    The Greens to get back at the EB
    Labour to get the pledge Card fiasco sorted,
    WInston to get his overspend back.
    Anderton and Dunne well – go figure.
    When you circumvent the process, and the checks and balances are ignored, it is an admission of defeat – it is saying that your belief in the democratic process is lost, even if you say you are doing it to ‘protect democracy’ – usually the firs thing any despot in waiting uses to declare ’emergency powers’ too!
    In the post 9-11 world, suppression of dissent is the new orthodoxy and you are blindly subscribing to it.

  42. r0b 42

    I gotta go be in the real world for a bit Lee, I’ll be back tonight. Before I go though you said: “I haven’t argued that the EFB restricts the EB”. Please check your post of 9:39 am and tell me how you haven’t contradicted yourself?

    Later…

  43. Pascal's bookie 43

    “Cross party consultation,
    Public consultation
    White Paper
    Draft Bill
    Select Committee
    Vote
    Law.”

    Sounds grand. How long would that take realistically? Bearing in mind that the process wouldn’t have gotten underway untill at least 6 months after the election, and that the new law would need to be in place well before the next election I’m thinking the window isn’t big enough.

    I understand your points about the percieved perfidy of the parties involved in drafting this law, but do you accept that the National Party aint exactly lilly white in their obstruction?

    One thing I find interesting is that while everyone seems to agree that reform is needed before the next election I havn’t seen anything but whinges from the Nats.

    Yes they were excluded, and yes this is, on it’s face, wrong. But given that the Nats haven’t come up with any alternative legislation, or even serious amendments, I am left with the impression that their presence in the discussion would not have added anything. You can tell me that ‘anything they came up with would only have been ignored’ if you like, but that doesn’t change the fact that they havn’t come up with anything when there has been nothing stopping them from doing so.

    At the moment the Nats position is simple repeal of the new act. What does that mean in practice? A return to the stautus quo ante? But doesn’t everyone agree that we need reform? But the Nats, as with so much else, have got nothing that they feel comfortable talking about. They are the party of ‘No’. So for my money they can sit out in the cold.

  44. Lee C 44

    One of the problems is the shortness of the electoral cyle.Three yeras is too short. But, if Labour had been serious about this issue, they would have got their skates on straight away, rather than leaving it so late then conveniently blaming ‘time-pressures’ for the almighty cock-up. No National haven’t been lilly-white over this, but they did not write this dreadful piece of legislation.
    Would Labour now accept taht the Bill is flwed, and should go to a proper round of consultation and drafting.

    No.

    So then therefore it is a bit rich to say the fault for this whole mess is Nationals.

    They din’t write it, it was Labour’s throwing their toys out of the pram after teh idea of public funding was rejected that caused this fiasco. And why did they need public funding? Because they were broke after th Pledge Card fiasco.

    Whichever way you cut it, this is all down to Labour. To try and move the goal-posts and suggest this is National’s fault is a desperate act of a Party caught with their hand in the cookie-jar.

    This is not about who should have the higher maoral plateau, it is about trusting our governments to do the right thing by us. Helen Clark has been in government for eight years. Surely she should know how to organise something like this?

    No, the only logical conclusion is that they tried to sneak it through, under the radar, or ‘inside the beltway’. You only then are invited to ask why? TO stop Big Business rorting elections.

    This is me smiling. :0)

  45. Pascal's bookie 45

    Lovely, glad to have have you smiling.

    Now why haven’t National come up with anything at all?

    And where did I say that it was entirely National’s fault, which seems to be the strawman you are arguing against?

    Admittedly it’s a strawman that was roundly slain and I trust that your smile is one of pride. You big clever hunka straw killing man you.

  46. r0b 46

    Lee C – “I think we are going in circles.”

    I quite agree, but this is my last time round the circle, as it is my last reply to you in this thread.

    I haven’t argued that the EFB restricts the EB

    You surely have, at 9:39am in this thread.

    As to your other points, I agree we are going round in circles, and you can find my position stated above.

    I strongly recommend you examine your principles around your attitude to the way the Select Committee process has been used here. […]

    I say this not because I am looking at it from a politically partisan viewpoint, but because I am concerned that it establishes a dangerous precedent.

    I found your attempt to claim the non partisan moral high ground rather interesting Lee C. Because I’m wondering if perhaps you really are a partisan after all. What makes me just a little bit suspicious, Lee C, is your opinions as expressed on Kiwiblog. I hope you can forgive me for wondering if you are one of those who just cynically exploit the concepts of democracy and free speech to attack a government that they hate and mock?

    A small selection of Lee C on Kiwiblog:


    ===

    Lee C Says:
    November 6th, 2007 at 9:57 am

    My criticism of National thus far has been its refusal to get ‘down and dirty’. They really need to stop cowering in the corner and stand up to the bullies. Actually ‘fight’ an election. Life’s too short to spend it reminiscing about how close you came to winning.

    ===

    Lee C Says:
    November 6th, 2007 at 11:46 am

    […]

    Labbbour’s greatest asset is Helen Clark. She has assiduously cultivated a mystique of power about herself, so that it is almost a heresy to be seen to criticise her. Some might label her as pompous, patronising, aloof, cynical, creative with the truth, or even corrupt, but she has a teflon personality.

    Funny about Teflon, once you put one decent scratch in it, it renders the implement largely useless. However, I have yet to see an incident of a teflon pan scratching itself.

    That is the job of the opposition.

    ===

    Lee C Says:
    November 6th, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    Bwakile – I may be wrong, but I am of the opinion that bewteen us we could probably cobble to gether a more effective campaign of opposition than the present lot in National are evidently capable of. I would be happy to vote National simply because I have developed a hatred of the present Government, but on the face of National’s handling of this EFB issue, frankly they will not get my vote.
    I mean if they can’t even cobble together a strategy around a generation-defining piece of legislation like this, what good are they?

    They make Neville Chamberlain look macho

    ===

    Lee C Says:
    November 3rd, 2007 at 7:43 am

    Speaking of narrowly averted suicides. Like I heard that one time when she was at low ebb, Helen attempted suicide. Sobbing quietly, she placed the revolver against her breast., pulled the trigger. and shot herself in the knee-cap.
    drum roll, cymbal clash.
    aythenkyu..

    ===

    Lee C Says:
    November 13th, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    I’d like to see Helen Clark Burn for democracy.

    ===

    Lee C Says:
    September 15th, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    […]

    Ironically, MMP might go down as a failed experiment which caused voters to think in a first past the post way, because the way the Labour Government has turned the other parties into its bitches makes a mockery of the idea of widened participation in government for the voters, and has created a virtual single=party state here in NZ

    ===

    Lee C Says:
    September 6th, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    I think it is time to start suggesting the myriad ways that one will be able to break the Law (if this bill passes) during an election year and then expose it for the piece of work it is.

    ===

    Lee C Says:
    November 12th, 2007 at 7:42 am

    Watch the Labour Party backlash on the Herald. But, bullies only prosper when they pick on those smaller than themeselves. I look forwared to these money-grabbing, egregious venal power-turned goons in the Labour Government and their allies, getting the bloody noses they so richly deserve.

    I said before that the media wins or loses elections – it looks like the war is on.

  47. Lee C 47

    Shit, looks like my cover is blown. Or something.

    Should I be scared? is this a scary situation?
    Is this how Catholics used to feel under Henry the Eighth? Do I need to find a safe-house because I have uttered heretical sentiments? FFS, Rob Grow up!
    Gosh, did I really say National are doing a crap job as opposition? you might be able to dig out the times I said they’d lost my vote as a result of that.
    Did I really accuse Labour of bullying? Ask Setchell, ask that woman Mallard victimised the other day from parliament.
    Did I suggest MMP is open to abuse? Did that only yesterday, here, as well. I used the words ‘Labour and Shameful’ in the same sentence. Should I get my family out of the country?
    Didi I raise a point about how media win/lose elections? did that here too, and on kiwiblog referring to how Blair won in the UK by courting the media.
    Yes I have a hatred of Labour, I think it started with the retrospective legislation to legalise their Pledge-Card rort, but the way they picked on the Exclusive Brethren community (not the idiot businessmen) assisted.
    Better get that out of my system before January 2nd, hadn’t I?
    So to summarise:
    Criticisms of Nationals crap opposition to the EFB 3
    Criticism of Helen Clark 1 and a bit (do two jokes about Helen count? i thought we enjoyed political satire here)
    Criticism of Labour over the EFB 1
    Criticism of labour and how they used MMP to abuse the parliamentary system 1

    Criticism of Labour’s bully-boy tactics 1

    So you have me bang to rights, I guess. I am so partisan that I hate Labour, and won’t even vote National because they have failed to mount a realistic oppositon to the EFB.

    Really – what is your point? are you calling me a liar? Just say those four little words. ‘You are a Liar.’

    I won’t be angry.
    PS I also wrote a crap submission to the Select Committee about the EFB. I believe that has been quoted in The Standard too.
    I have a blog too; http://troubleingodzone.blogspot.com/
    please feel freee to visit.

    I am, however flattered taht you took so much time to trawl through the kiwiblog and pull out my pearls of wisdom. I like it when people quote me – it adds polish to their conversations.

    Looks like the EPMU need to recruit someone who isn’t afraid of a hard day’s work,

    this is me p***g myself: ;*0

  48. Lee C 48

    ps if you think I am rude about Helen you should see some of the unspeakable filth I have written in ‘Monkey Fluids’.

    http://www.monkeyfluids.com/2007_11_01_archive.html

    Do take a look:

    (Not you, Gruela, I respect you tooo much)

Links to post

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Olywhites and Time Bandits

    About a decade ago I worked with a bloke called Steve. He was the grizzled veteran coder, a few years older than me, who knew where the bodies were buried - code wise. Despite his best efforts to be approachable and friendly he could be kind of gruff, through to ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 hour ago
  • Throwback Thursday – Thinking about Expressways

    Some of the recent announcements from the government have reminded us of posts we’ve written in the past. Here’s one from early 2020. There were plenty of reactions to the government’s infrastructure announcement a few weeks ago which saw them fund a bunch of big roading projects. One of ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    4 hours ago
  • The Kākā’s Pick 'n' Mix for Thursday, July 25

    TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Thursday, July 25 are:News: Why Electric Kiwi is closing to new customers - and why it matters RNZ’s Susan EdmundsScoop: Government drops ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 hours ago
  • The Possum: Demon or Friend?

    Hi,I felt a small wet tongue snaking through one of the holes in my Crocs. It explored my big toe, darting down one side, then the other. “He’s looking for some toe cheese,” said the woman next to me, words that still haunt me to this day.Growing up in New ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    5 hours ago
  • Not a story

    Yesterday I happily quoted the Prime Minister without fact-checking him and sure enough, it turns out his numbers were all to hell. It’s not four kg of Royal Commission report, it’s fourteen.My friend and one-time colleague-in-comms Hazel Phillips gently alerted me to my error almost as soon as I’d hit ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 hours ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Thursday, July 25

    TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Thursday, July 25, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day were:The Abuse in Care Royal Commission of Inquiry published its final report yesterday.PM Christopher Luxon and The Minister responsible for ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 hours ago
  • A tougher line on “proactive release”?

    The Official Information Act has always been a battle between requesters seeking information, and governments seeking to control it. Information is power, so Ministers and government agencies want to manage what is released and when, for their own convenience, and legality and democracy be damned. Their most recent tactic for ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    21 hours ago
  • 'Let's build a motorway costing $100 million per km, before emissions costs'

    TL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:Transport and Energy Minister Simeon Brown is accelerating plans to spend at least $10 billion through Public Private Partnerships (PPPs) to extend State Highway One as a four-lane ‘Expressway’ from Warkworth to Whangarei ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    23 hours ago
  • Lester's Prescription – Positive Bleeding.

    I live my life (woo-ooh-ooh)With no control in my destinyYea-yeah, yea-yeah (woo-ooh-ooh)I can bleed when I want to bleedSo come on, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)You can bleed when you want to bleedYea-yeah, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)Everybody bleed when they want to bleedCome on and bleedGovernments face tough challenges. Selling unpopular decisions to ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 day ago
  • Casey Costello gaslights Labour in the House

    Please note:To skip directly to the- parliamentary footage in the video, scroll to 1:21 To skip to audio please click on the headphone icon on the left hand side of the screenThis video / audio section is under development. ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    1 day ago
  • Gordon Campbell on a textbook case of spending waste by the Luxon government

    Given the crackdown on wasteful government spending, it behooves me to point to a high profile example of spending by the Luxon government that looks like a big, fat waste of time and money. I’m talking about the deployment of NZDF personnel to support the US-led coalition in the Red ...
    WerewolfBy lyndon
    1 day ago
  • The Kākā’s Pick 'n' Mix for Wednesday, July 24

    TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:40 am on Wednesday, July 24 are:Deep Dive: Chipping away at the housing crisis, including my comments RNZ/Newsroom’s The DetailNews: Government softens on asset sales, ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • LXR Takaanini

    As I reported about the city centre, Auckland’s rail network is also going through a difficult and disruptive period which is rapidly approaching a culmination, this will result in a significant upgrade to the whole network. Hallelujah. Also like the city centre this is an upgrade predicated on the City ...
    Greater AucklandBy Patrick Reynolds
    1 day ago
  • Four kilograms of pain

    Today, a 4 kilogram report will be delivered to Parliament. We know this is what the report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care weighs, because our Prime Minister told us so.Some reporter had blindsided him by asking a question about something done by ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Wednesday, July 24

    TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Wednesday, July 24, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Beehive: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced plans to use PPPs to fund, build and run a four-lane expressway between Auckland ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • Luxon gets caught out

    NewstalkZB host Mike Hosking, who can usually be relied on to give Prime Minister Christopher Luxon an easy run, did not do so yesterday when he interviewed him about the HealthNZ deficit. Luxon is trying to use a deficit reported last year by HealthNZ as yet another example of the ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    1 day ago
  • A worrying sign

    Back in January a StatsNZ employee gave a speech at Rātana on behalf of tangata whenua in which he insulted and criticised the government. The speech clearly violated the principle of a neutral public service, and StatsNZ started an investigation. Part of that was getting an external consultant to examine ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Are we fine with 47.9% home-ownership by 2048?

    Renting for life: Shared ownership initiatives are unlikely to slow the slide in home ownership by much. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:A Deloitte report for Westpac has projected Aotearoa’s home-ownership rate will ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Let's Win This

    You're broken down and tiredOf living life on a merry go roundAnd you can't find the fighterBut I see it in you so we gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsWe gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsAnd I'll rise upI'll rise like the dayI'll rise upI'll rise unafraidI'll rise upAnd I'll ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • Waimahara: The Singing Spirit of Water

    There’s been a change in Myers Park. Down the steps from St. Kevin’s Arcade, past the grassy slopes, the children’s playground, the benches and that goat statue, there has been a transformation. The underpass for Mayoral Drive has gone from a barren, grey, concrete tunnel, to a place that thrums ...
    Greater AucklandBy Connor Sharp
    2 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Pick 'n' Mix for Tuesday, July 23

    TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Tuesday, July 23 are:Deep Dive: Penlink: where tolling rhetoric meets reality BusinessDesk-$$$’s Oliver LewisScoop: Te Pūkenga plans for regional polytechs leak out ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Tuesday, July 23

    TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Tuesday, July 23, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Health: Shane Reti announced the Board of Te Whatu Ora- Health New Zealand was being replaced with Commissioner Lester Levy ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • HealthNZ and Luxon at cross purposes over budget blowout

    Health NZ warned the Government at the end of March that it was running over Budget. But the reasons it gave were very different to those offered by the Prime Minister yesterday. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon blamed the “botched merger” of the 20 District Health Boards (DHBs) to create Health ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago
  • 2500-3000 more healthcare staff expected to be fired, as Shane Reti blames Labour for a budget defic...

    Long ReadKey Summary: Although National increased the health budget by $1.4 billion in May, they used an old funding model to project health system costs, and never bothered to update their pre-election numbers. They were told during the Health Select Committees earlier in the year their budget amount was deficient, ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    2 days ago
  • Might Kamala Harris be about to get a 'stardust' moment like Jacinda Ardern?

    As a momentous, historic weekend in US politics unfolded, analysts and commentators grasped for precedents and comparisons to help explain the significance and power of the choice Joe Biden had made. The 46th president had swept the Democratic party’s primaries but just over 100 days from the election had chosen ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    3 days ago
  • Solutions Interview: Steven Hail on MMT & ecological economics

    TL;DR: I’m casting around for new ideas and ways of thinking about Aotearoa’s political economy to find a few solutions to our cascading and self-reinforcing housing, poverty and climate crises.Associate Professor runs an online masters degree in the economics of sustainability at Torrens University in Australia and is organising ...
    The KakaBy Steven Hail
    3 days ago
  • Reported back

    The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on National's Local Government (Water Services Preliminary Arrangements) Bill. The bill sets up water for privatisation, and was introduced under urgency, then rammed through select committee with no time even for local councils to make a proper submission. Naturally, national's select committee ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Vandrad the Viking, Christopher Coombes, and Literary Archaeology

    Some years ago, I bought a book at Dunedin’s Regent Booksale for $1.50. As one does. Vandrad the Viking (1898), by J. Storer Clouston, is an obscure book these days – I cannot find a proper online review – but soon it was sitting on my shelf, gathering dust alongside ...
    3 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell On The Biden Withdrawal

    History is not on the side of the centre-left, when Democratic presidents fall behind in the polls and choose not to run for re-election. On both previous occasions in the past 75 years (Harry Truman in 1952, Lyndon Johnson in 1968) the Democrats proceeded to then lose the White House ...
    WerewolfBy lyndon
    3 days ago
  • Joe Biden's withdrawal puts the spotlight back on Kamala and the USA's complicated relatio...

    This is a free articleCoverageThis morning, US President Joe Biden announced his withdrawal from the Presidential race. And that is genuinely newsworthy. Thanks for your service, President Biden, and all the best to you and yours.However, the media in New Zealand, particularly the 1News nightly bulletin, has been breathlessly covering ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    3 days ago
  • Why we have to challenge our national fiscal assumptions

    A homeless person’s camp beside a blocked-off slipped damage walkway in Freeman’s Bay: we are chasing our tail on our worsening and inter-related housing, poverty and climate crises. Photo: Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Existential Crisis and Damaged Brains

    What has happened to it all?Crazy, some'd sayWhere is the life that I recognise?(Gone away)But I won't cry for yesterdayThere's an ordinary worldSomehow I have to findAnd as I try to make my wayTo the ordinary worldYesterday morning began as many others - what to write about today? I began ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • A speed limit is not a target, and yet…

    This is a guest post from longtime supporter Mr Plod, whose previous contributions include a proposal that Hamilton become New Zealand’s capital city, and that we should switch which side of the road we drive on. A recent Newsroom article, “Back to school for the Govt’s new speed limit policy“, ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    3 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Pick 'n' Mix for Monday, July 22

    TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Monday, July 22 are:Today’s Must Read: Father and son live in a tent, and have done for four years, in a million ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Monday, July 22

    TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #29

    A listing of 32 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, July 14, 2024 thru Sat, July 20, 2024. Story of the week As reflected by preponderance of coverage, our Story of the Week is Project 2025. Until now traveling ...
    4 days ago
  • I'd like to share what I did this weekend

    This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    4 days ago
  • For the children – Why mere sentiment can be a misleading force in our lives, and lead to unex...

    National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Order image, ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    4 days ago
  • A friend in uncertain times

    Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • The Chaotic World of Male Diet Influencers

    Hi,We’ll get to the horrific world of male diet influencers (AKA Beefy Boys) shortly, but first you will be glad to know that since I sent out the Webworm explaining why the assassination attempt on Donald Trump was not a false flag operation, I’ve heard from a load of people ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    4 days ago
  • It's Starting To Look A Lot Like… Y2K

    Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • Bernard’s Saturday Soliloquy for the week to July 20

    Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Pharmac Director, Climate Change Commissioner, Health NZ Directors – The latest to quit this m...

    Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    6 days ago
  • Flooding Housing Policy

    The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    6 days ago
  • A Voyage Among the Vandals: Accepted (Again!)

    As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
    6 days ago
  • The Kākā's Chorus for Friday, July 19

    An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Pick 'n' Mix for Friday, July 19

    TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 19-July-2024

    Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    6 days ago
  • Weekly Climate Wrap: A market-led plan for failure

    TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Tobacco First

    Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Trump’s Adopted Son.

    Waiting In The Wings: For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
    6 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Friday, July 19

    TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSA announced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to July 19

    TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers last night features co-hosts and talking with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent talking about the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s release of its first Emissions Reduction Plan;University of Otago Foreign Relations Professor and special guest Dr Karin von ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #29 2024

    Open access notables Improving global temperature datasets to better account for non-uniform warming, Calvert, Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society: To better account for spatial non-uniform trends in warming, a new GITD [global instrumental temperature dataset] was created that used maximum likelihood estimation (MLE) to combine the land surface ...
    7 days ago
  • We're back again! Join us for the weekly Hoon on YouTube Live

    Photo by Gabriel Crismariu on UnsplashWe’re back again after our mid-winter break. We’re still with the ‘new’ day of the week (Thursday rather than Friday) when we have our ‘hoon’ webinar with paying subscribers to The Kākā for an hour at 5 pm.Jump on this link on YouTube Livestream for ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    7 days ago
  • Gut Reactions.

    Trump Writes His Own Story: Would the “mainstream” media even try to reflect the horrified reaction of the MAGA crowd to the pop-pop-pop of the would-be assassin’s rifle, and Trump going down? Could it even grasp the sheer elation of the rally-goers seeing their champion rise up and punch the air, still alive, ...
    7 days ago
  • Dodging Bullets.

    Fight! Fight! Fight! Had the assassin’s bullet found its mark and killed Donald Trump, America’s descent into widespread and murderous violence – possibly spiralling-down into civil war – would have been immediate and quite possibly irreparable. The American Republic, upon whose survival liberty and democracy continue to depend, is certainly not ...
    7 days ago
  • 'Corruption First' Strikes Again

    There comes a point in all our lives when we must stop to say, “Enough is enough. We know what’s happening. We are not as stupid or as ignorant as you believe us to be. And making policies that kill or harm our people is not acceptable, Ministers.”Plausible deniability has ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    7 days ago
  • The Kākā's Chorus for Thursday, July 18

    TL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:The inside stories of KiwiRail’s iRex debacle, Westport’s perma-delayed flood scheme and Christchurch’s post-quake sewer rebuild, which assumed no population growth, show just how deeply sceptical senior officials in Treasury, the Ministry of ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • What's that Jack Black?

    Ah-rah, deeSoo-guh-goo-gee-goo-geeGoo-guh fli-goo gee-gooGuh fli-goo, ga-goo-buh-deeOoh, guh-goo-beeOoh-guh-guh-bee-guh-guh-beeFli-goo gee-gooA-fliguh woo-wa mama Lucifer!I’m about ready to move on, how about you?Not from the shooting, that’s bad and we definitely shouldn’t have that. But the rehabilitation of Donald J Trump? The deification of Saint Donald? As the Great Unifier?Gimme a bucket.https://yellowscene.com/2024/04/07/trump-as-jesus/Just to re-iterate, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago
  • June 2024: Earth’s 13th-consecutive warmest month on record

    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Jeff Masters and Bob Henson June 2024 was Earth’s warmest June since global record-keeping began in 1850 and was the planet’s 13th consecutive warmest month on record, NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information, or NCEI, reported July 12. As opposed to being focused in ...
    1 week ago
  • Connecting the dots and filling the gaps in our bike network

    This is a guest post by Shaun Baker on the importance of filling the gaps in our cycling networks. It originally appeared on his blog Multimodal Adventures, and is re-posted here with kind permission. In our towns and cities in Aotearoa New Zealand, there are areas in our cycling networks ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    1 week ago
  • Webworm Down Under Photos!

    Hi,I wanted to share a few thoughts and photos from the Webworm popup and Tickled screening we held in Auckland, New Zealand last weekend.In short — it was a blast. I mean, I had a blast and I hope any of you that came also had a blast.An old friend ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 week ago
  • The Kākā’s Pick 'n' Mix for Thursday, July 18

    TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 6:30 am on Thursday, July 18 are:News: Christchurch's sewer systems block further housing developments RNZ’s Niva ChittockAnalysis: Interislander: Treasury, MoT officials' mistrust of KiwiRail led ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Thursday, July 18

    TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Thursday, July 18, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Verbatim: Climate Change Minister Simon Watts held a news conference in Auckland to release the Government’s Emissions Reduction Plan, including ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • The politics of managed retreat

    Climate change deniers are now challenging the Government over a key climate change adaptation policy. That begs the question of whether New Zealand First will then support Government moves to implement processes to deal with a managed retreat for properties in danger of flooding because of sea level rise and ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    1 week ago
  • Some changes are coming

    Warm welcome again to those who are here. The Mountain Tui substack was officially started on the 2nd of July. I wrote about what led me here on this post. Since then, it’s been a learning to navigate the platform, get to meet those in the community, and basically be ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    1 week ago
  • About fucking time

    The US Supreme Court has been rogue for years, with openly corrupt judges making the law up as they go to suit themselves, their billionaire buyers, and the Republican Party. But now, in the wake of them granting a licence for tyranny, President Biden is actually going to try and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: False accounting and wishful thinking

    National released their draft 2026-2030 Emissions Reduction Plan today. The plan is required under the Zero Carbon Act, and must set out policies and strategies to meet the relevant emissions budget. Having cancelled all Labour's actually effective climate change policies and crashed the carbon price, National was always going to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The Enemies Of Sunshine And Space.

    Our Houses? The Urban Density debate is a horrible combination of intergenerational avarice and envy, fuelled by the grim certainty that none of the generations coming up after them will ever have it as good as the Boomers. To say that this situation rankles among those born after 1965 is to ...
    1 week ago
  • Still the 5 Eyes Achilles Heel?

    The National Cyber Security Centre (NZSC), a unit in the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) dedicated to cyber-security, has released a Review of its response to the 2021 email hacking of NZ members of the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC, … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Britain's Devastating Electoral Slip.

    Slip-Sliding Away: Labour may now enjoy a dominant position in Britain’s political landscape, but only by virtue of not being swallowed by it.THE BRITISH LABOUR PARTY’S “landslide victory” is nothing of the sort. As most people understand the term, a landslide election victory is one in which the incumbent government, or ...
    1 week ago
  • Gordon Campbell on why right wingers think all governments (including their own) are incompetent

    Since open denial of climate change is no longer a viable political option, denial now comes in disguise. The release this week of the coalition government’s ‘draft emissions reductions plan” shows that the Luxon government is refusing to see the need to cut emissions at source. Instead, it proposes to ...
    WerewolfBy lyndon
    1 week ago
  • The Kākā's Chorus for Wednesday, July 17

    TL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy this morning are:Chris Penk is set to roll back building standards for insulation that had only just been put in place, and which had been estimated to save 40% from power costs, after builders ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • Open Letter to Pharmac

    All this talk of getting oldIt's getting me down, my loveLike a cat in a bag, waiting to drownThis time I'm coming downAnd I hope you're thinking of meAs you lay down on your sideNow the drugs don't workThey just make you worse but I know I'll see your face ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago

  • Kiwis having their say on first regulatory review

    After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks.  “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago
  • Government upgrading Lower North Island commuter rail

    The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 hours ago
  • Government moves to ensure flood protection for Wairoa

    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • PM speech to Parliament – Royal Commission of Inquiry’s Report into Abuse in Care

    Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care.  At the heart of this report are the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Government acknowledges torture at Lake Alice

    For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Government acknowledges courageous abuse survivors

    The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Half a million people use tax calculator

    With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis.  “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • Paid Parental Leave improvements pass first reading

    Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Rebuilding the economy through better regulation

    Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • ‘Open banking’ and ‘open electricity’ on the way

    New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Charity lotteries to be permitted to operate online

    Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Accelerating Northland Expressway

    The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Sir Don to travel to Viet Nam as special envoy

    Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced.    “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Grant Illingworth KC appointed as transitional Commissioner to Royal Commission

    Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024.  “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZ to advance relationships with ASEAN partners

    Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane.    “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says.   “This will be our third visit to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Backing mental health services on the West Coast

    Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZ support for sustainable Pacific fisheries

    New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Students’ needs at centre of new charter school adjustments

    Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Commissioner replaces Health NZ Board

    In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today.  “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Minister to speak at Australian Space Forum

    Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum.  While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation.  “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change Minister to attend climate action meeting in China

    Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan.  “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Oceans and Fisheries Minister to Solomons

    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government launches Military Style Academy Pilot

    The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Nine priority bridge replacements to get underway

    The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Update on global IT outage

    Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Zealand, Japan renew Pacific partnership

    New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says.    “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New infrastructure energises BOP forestry towns

    New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • 'Pacific Futures'

    President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests.    Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone.    Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Delivering 24 hour pothole repairs

    Kiwis and freight operators will benefit from the Coalition Government delivering on its commitment to introduce targets that will ensure a greater number of potholes on our state highways are identified and fixed within 24 hours, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Increasing productivity to help rebuild our economy is a key ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Peer Support Specialists rolled out in hospitals

    Five hospitals have been selected to trial a new mental health and addiction peer support service in their emergency departments as part of the Government’s commitment to increase access to mental health and addiction support for New Zealanders, says Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey.  “Peer Support Specialists in EDs will ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Consultation opens for the Emissions Reduction Plan

    The Government’s draft Emissions Reduction Plan shows we can stay within the limits of the first two emissions budgets while growing the economy, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “This draft Emissions Reduction Plan shows that with effective climate change policies we can both grow the economy and deliver our ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Benefit stats highlight need for welfare reset

    The coalition Government is providing extra support for job seekers to ensure as many Kiwis as possible are in work or preparing for work, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “While today’s quarterly data showing a rise in the number of people on Jobseeker benefits has been long ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • School attendance continues to increase

    Provisional school attendance data for Term 2 2024 released today has shown more students are back in class compared to last year, with 53.1 per cent of students regularly attending, compared with 47 per cent in Term 2 2023, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. “The Government has prioritised student ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • $22.7m of West Coast resilience projects underway

    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed news of progress being made by the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) on the first of several crucial resilience projects underway on the South Island’s West Coast.“State highways across the West Coast are critical lifelines for communities throughout the region, including for freight and tourism. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Migrant school leavers to get part-time work rights

    The coalition Government is providing migrant school leavers with greater opportunities, by increasing access to part-time work rights for those awaiting the outcome of a family residence application, Immigration Minister Erica Stanford has announced.  “Many young people who are part of a family residence application process are unable to work. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Funding to support use of NZ Sign Language

    Seven projects have received government funding totalling nearly $250,000 to maintain and promote the use of New Zealand Sign Language (NZSL). Initiatives that received an NZSL Board Community Grants this year include camps that support the use of NZSL through physical and sensory activities, and clubs where Deaf people and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Inflation data shows progress in economic recovery

    Today’s Consumer Price Index data which has inflation at 3.3 per cent for the year to July 2024, shows we are turning our economy around and winning the fight against rampant inflation, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says.  “While today’s data will be welcome news for Kiwis, I know many New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Experts to advise Minister on Oranga Tamariki

    The Oranga Tamariki Ministerial Advisory Board has been re-established by the Minister for Children, Karen Chhour. “I look forward to working with the new board to continue to ensure Oranga Tamariki and the care and protection system, are entirely child centric,” Minister Chhour says. “The board will provide independent advice ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Expectations set for improved medicines access

    Associate Health Minister David Seymour says he has set clear expectations for Pharmac around delivering the medicines and medical technology that Kiwis need.  “For many New Zealanders, funding for pharmaceuticals is life or death, or the difference between a life of pain and suffering or living freely. New cancer medicines ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Regional Development Minister to host summits

    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones will hold a series of nationwide summits to discuss regional priorities, aspirations and opportunities, with the first kicking off in Nelson on August 12. The 15 summits will facilitate conversations about progressing regional economic growth and opportunities to drive productivity, prosperity and resilience through the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

Page generated in The Standard by Wordpress at 2024-07-25T00:09:40+00:00