Open mike 28/11/2024

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1. Jenny 1

   28 November 2024 at 6:47 am

   MPs in the European Parliament, (MEPs) debate whether or not to abide by the warrants issued by the ICC for the arrest of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and former Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant.

   The other person named in the ICC warrants is Mohammed Dief

   (Despite repeated attempts on his life, Hamas claim that Deif is still alive. According to wikipedia the IDF have managed to kill Deif's brother, his nephew, his niece, his wife, his 3-year-old daughter, and his 7-month-old son.[8][52]. Apparently Deif hadn't been hiding behind them, so despite wiping out his family members, the 'Where's Daddy' AI ap, was no help at all in locating and killing Deif himself)

   Weirdly, no one on either side of the debate disputed that the EU should abide by the ICC arrest warrant for Mohammed Deif. One can only assume that all sides considered it a given that the EU countries must abide by the ICC arrest warrant for Dief.

   The weirdness didn't stop there.

   Lukas Mandl MEP, Österreichische Volkspartei (OVP), Austrian Peoples Party.

   Nov 27, 2024

   @32:59 minutes;

   ……Dear colleagues, defence of democracy and rule of law, separation of powers, independent justice, freedom of speech and opinion, freedom of the press, these are pillars of our civilization. And who is fighting at the utmost frontier for this civilization and for these values?
   It is is the Israeli Defense Forces, and it's the Israeli government, and it's the Israeli people in the first place.

   So I very much listen to courts, but I also very much use my right to say my opinion in the framework of freedom of speech, freedom of expression and I think Churchill won the Second World War not alone, but he was the leader.

   Netanyahu will win the war for this civilization not alone, but he is the leader and he will be politically defined by the people of Israel in the first place, because this is a democratic country. And this is one other of the pillars of our civilization. And this is also what people, the decision makers here should understand.

   From the Chair: Thank you very much Mr Mandl

   If a colonial settler apartheid state is one of the pillars of our civilisation, what does this say about our civilisation?

   Freedom of expression is not a feature of Israeli society.

   https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-war-palestinians-dissent-protest-849cc9250534b5bae98cea89e6f4d35e

   Neither is freedom of the press.

   MEP Lucas Mandel can't be unaware that Al Jazeera is banned from reporting in Israel and from the Palestinian territories. That Israel doesn't allow journalists into Gaza and regularly murders those that are there?

   Mr Mandl must have heard that Israel's oldest newspaper Haretz has just been sanctioned by the Knesset. Either that or Lucas Mandel has the attention span of a goldfish, or he could just be a far right liar and propagandist.

   I wonder, when the New Zealand MPs finally get around to debating this issue, will any one of them be stupid or ignorant enough to claim that Israel champions the free press?

   Weirdly the New Zealand parliamentary MPs haven't even discussed this issue yet. Weird because New Zealand is a favourite destination for Israeli travelers, and weird because the ICC is likely to be issuing more international arrest warrants for Israeli citizens identified as being involved in committing war crimes.

   Just ignoring the issue won't make it go away.

   So what are we to think of this?

   Israeli war criminals with ICC warrants out for them, will be able to come here and wander around freely and not face arrest?

   What does this say about this country's respect for the rule of law?

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