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Casual harassment

Written By: - Date published: 9:05 am, April 28th, 2015 - 89 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, john key, Minister for International Embarrassment, sexism - Tags: , ,

Key’s line on harassing a waitress is that he’s the most “casual” PM ever. He was just joking around. It was all a bit of fun. He was misinterpreted.

These are the lines of every sexist harassing jerk ever.

These are the lines of male power, in which the female’s point of view (a young woman reduced to tears) is not even acknowledged, let alone taken seriously.

It is shocking how many people uncritically accept and repeat Key’s “explanation”. Have we become so casual about harassment?

89 comments on “Casual harassment”

  1. One Anonymous Bloke 1

    “We” haven’t.

    The National Party has deliberately fostered a string of hate-based narratives against entire sections of society. This is the fruit.

  2. s y d 2

    “butt of benteh”

  3. s y d 3

    For some insight into Tauranag media owners victim blaming and Nat party propaganda read on (if you dare)….

    http://sunlive.co.nz/blogs/8176-pinning-tale-on-johnkey.html

    • Rosemary McDonald 3.1

      Oh…my…goodness….me….

      “It reeks to me of some minion troublemaker, who has discovered she wields a bit of power and attention after riding along with a bit of horse play.

      We do, however, appear to have the odd squealing waitress who is quite capable of speaking out to hordes of media but apparently didn’t tell her boss, or stop John and Bronagh from getting a bit cheeky.

      It will be a sad day if the PC nannies drive us back to the dark humourless days of previous administrations, when the feminist gay nazi brigade tried to dictate every aspect of our lives, including the length of our shower times.”

      He got this right….so to speak….

      “Merciless mocking. We are seen as the Deliverance of the South Pacific, only without the squealing pigs.”

      What….a….wanker….

      • Tracey 3.1.1

        And stlll some blame feminism for not having ” succeeded”… HOW does feminism “succeed” when the media give over so much time and space to the kind of disrespetful, self obsessed ranting shown above… cue Hosking, Henry, Key, add to the list and please, also list the number of feminists given the same kind of exposure on our tv, radio and papers daily. TIA

    • freedom 3.2

      “Andrew Little was just about frothing at the mouth,”
      talk about making it up as you go along. [eye roll emoticon]

      no wonder they need extra sewage works

  4. Penny Bright 4

    If ‘casual’ alleged sexual harrassment / male assaults female, is just ‘horsing around’ – what is inappropriate touching of children?

    Where are the boundaries?

    Where is the ‘moral compass’ / ‘highest ethical standards’ LEADERSHIP?

    Just asking…

    Penny Bright

    • Draco T Bastard 4.1

      Where is the ‘moral compass’ / ‘highest ethical standards’ LEADERSHIP?

      Those are just rules that get in the way of innovative people that want to succeed don’t you know?

      /sarc

    • Murray Rawshark 4.2

      Assaulting adults – horsing around.
      Assaulting children – ponying around.

      Heaps of Kiwis seem to be co-dependent, putting up with anything FJK does.

  5. Clemgeopin 5

    Bob Jones, the pompous money bag has an article today in the Herald minimising Key’s despicable and serious offense!

    Please take a look and consider telling the old goat what you think about his view.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11439407

    • Tautoko Mangō Mata 5.1

      Imagine working as a nurse in a resthome looking after Bob Jones and John Key!

      • Tracey 5.1.1

        Imagine being the nurses looking after Bob Jones or John Key in their exclusive apartments

        FIFY

        • rhinocrates 5.1.1.1

          Imagine them being in a position of physical dependence…

          • Tiger Mountain 5.1.1.1.1

            well there are cases of “I used to be somebody” types getting some ‘karma’ in assisted living situations, but those like the PM and Bob Jones that deserve at least fantasies from the downtrodden in that respect will likely have enough dosh for total private care

          • Hami Shearlie 5.1.1.1.2

            AHHHH!!! One can only dream, Rhinocrates!!

            • Rodel 5.1.1.1.2.1

              Sir Bob has always used the word nonsense about something he hasn’t fully grasped. He could perhaps apply it to his personal insight into women’s thoughts and feelings.

              • les

                ‘Sir’ Bob…accepted a knighthood after years of railing on about ‘token knights’.RJI …hardly mentions that anymore.

    • freedom 5.2

      Duckie nails it
      “The waitress is not 7, nor the Prime Minister’s daughter! What IS nonsense is the media making this about left vs right rather than right vs wrong.”

      • McFlock 5.2.1

        lol
        A woman I know was arguing it was a complete beat-up on key (she has some wonderful merits though, to make up for her abysmal judge of politicians). So we were having a fine old argument, but the king hit was the fact that she’s an early childhood educator. I asked here whether her preschoolers have learnt to not pull each others’ hair if the pullee doesn’t them want to…

        that ended the debate. No concession of defeat (she’s as bad as me when it comes to that 😉 ), but she didn’t have a leg to stand on when she expects better behaviour from her charges than she does from the PM, lol

        • idlegus 5.2.1.1

          isn’t it nice when you see that film lift from their eyes, its like they start to really think about it, & realise there’s something not quite right about it.

          • McFlock 5.2.1.1.1

            lol
            Trouble is we both enjoy arguments for the sake of the mental exercise, so it’s difficult to tell what her true opinions are :winky face:

            And yes, I’m reduced to typing out emoticons in pig-script because the current set are too tiny and not contrasty enough for me to see clearly. Let alone not animated :smiley face:

      • Anne 5.2.2

        Talking of right versus wrong… when the subject of JK’s indiscretion came up today an aquaintance said to me “what it tells me is that he has cheated on his wife”. That may or may not be the case, but I can understand why she might think it.

        • felix 5.2.2.1

          Interesting. How does that work?

          • Anne 5.2.2.1.1

            If he’s happy to ‘play’ with a young woman’s hair in the presence of his wife, then what is he prepared to do on odd occasions when she’s not present? I presume that is what she was suggesting.

    • vto 5.3

      That’s what you expect from a criminal convicted for assault.

      I think his brains have fallen out of his head

    • Julz 5.4

      When will the Herald ever start taking sexual harassment seriously – or any matter to do with women?

      • Tracey 5.4.1

        When Labour is back in Power… That’s when they last gave a shit about Democracy and the last time they cared about politician’s resigning was Cunliffe over an 11 year old letter. Hope that clears it up for you.

        • idlegus 5.4.1.1

          don’t forget cunliffe got raked over the coals for wearing a f*cking scarf, god forbid.

    • les 5.5

      I’d like to hear Jones’ background story as to his 7.y.o daughter whos hair he playfully pulls.Wasn’t her mother originally his Cambodian maid?No surprises he supports Keys power play.

      • Clemgeopin 5.5.1

        This is what as a comment under that comment:

        “You are getting nutty in your old age, Bob! You speak about tugging the pony tail of your seven year old daughter. The tugged victim in the cafe was not seven nor Key’s daughter as far as we know, though we know she is twenty six and a waitress, who was subjected to this humiliation repeatedly by the powerful perpetrator on several occasions and even after being asked to stop! Pictures and videos have also emerged of Key’s propensity towards touching the hair of girls who are not his kids but strangers on the streets. Your article is minimising the scandal.”

      • Tracey 5.5.2

        and she is your seven year old daughter. She presumably knows you. Bob, did you fondle her hair, or caress it?

        IF Bob thinks a waitress is the same as his 7 year old daughter then we are in far bigger trouble than I could have imagined. Children are not property and neither are waitresses.

        He’s putting me in mind of that other old duffer, Prince Phillip, one of NZ’s 20 greatest living New Zulinders, according to our “Leader”.

    • Didn’t Bob have a problem with a couple of people in authority once?
      Speeding ticket or something?

  6. Charles 6

    “…Till then please remember this weekend, those who fell in defence of our freedoms and what they were standing up for.

    It sure as hell wasn’t for some of the complete nonsense we’ve seen this week…”

    http://sunlive.co.nz/blogs/8176-pinning-tale-on-johnkey.html

    I totally agree, Brian, um, Roger, I mean, Peter!

    Everytime I walk to the dairy and then see a newspaper telling me something happened, I always think to myself, “I didn’t walk all the way here to find out people did something once, and now this!!”.

    This PC nonsense has to stop. Motorcycle-riding nude gay-nazi-feminist zombies must be stopped from eating all the pies, and doing the everything else. I died for it in the army, now we have muslims. Soon the RSA will close and Tauranga will become a backwater for people with no money and cheap deckchairs, saving whales on the beach and eating jelly fish eggs. Who will stop them from rampaging like godzilla lizards? Do we really want that?!

  7. Pasupial 7

    Prast demonstrates once more that the cruelest thing you can do to Key is to simply transcribe his nonsense verbatim. Stripped of his facile glibness that masquerades as casualness, the words read like the babbling of un cretino:

    Gower asks “when you accept that you got it wrong, do you accept that you misused your power?” Key replies “No because I didn’t intend to do that.” Gower suggests that “the context really is about power. You’re the Prime Minister. She’s someone working in her job.” Key responds “Yes I understand that’s some people’s argument. There’s a counter argument… for that and I think yeah look by nature I’m a pretty casual person, and I do kid around and have a bit of fun, and I think one of the things that look you know that, look the majority of staff there have enjoyed is the fact that……the opposite, rather than the power sort of thing and me being a bit stuck up I’ve been mucking around and having a bit of fun, now you know ok look in the end I got that wrong and I have to accept that.”

    Is the Prime Minister to be judged by his intentions? Or by what he actually said and did? Is he saying “Because I didn’t mean it, it doesn’t matter.”? Is that the way the law works?…

    In the final analysis, there is no ‘counter-argument’ to consent. No means no. No amount of context, kidding or casual banter can ever transform “No! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!” to “Yes! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!” She said “No”. And still, he touched her. Two bottles of wine won’t cut it. He should have listened to the woman if not his wife and stopped. Too late now, Mr Key.

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/04/28/a-great-white-shark/

    • Tracey 7.1

      Even more hilarious when people realise Pete George is not a satirist in his “opinion” piece after it…

      • rawshark-yeshe 7.1.1

        @tracey couldn’t find it .. do u have a separate link for the unknowing non-satirist ?

        • Tracey 7.1.1.1

          go to scoop and read the key transcript press release

          • rawshark-yeshe 7.1.1.1.1

            thx Tracey … methinks PG has a dictionary with missing words .. ie irony, satire, self-awareness … his writing is quite tragic.

            • Tracey 7.1.1.1.1.1

              the most important hing is that he as self proclaimed that having weighed up everything, Key has done the right thing.

  8. ianmac 8

    One question today:
    “Hon ANNETTE KING to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his statement that “There’s always a risk with third-term Governments that they get arrogant. There’s always a risk that they veer off into a space they haven’t been, and start surprising their supporters”?”
    Someone must answer on his behalf. Bill English perhaps?

    • Tracey 8.1

      The answer to Jan Logie’s will be fascinating…

      • ianmac 8.1.1

        Yep. Nearly missed that one Tracey. Will the Minister claim a different hat?
        “JAN LOGIE to the Minister for Women: Does she consider it her job to advocate for all New Zealand women?”

  9. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 9

    The problem the left has is that everyone else automatically discounts everything it says because of all the frenzied screaming. Middle New Zealand understands that what the PM did was wrong. They also know that the comparisons to Rolf Harris and Jimmy Savile are hysterical and inherently dishonest. You guys end up looking like the bad guys.

    • Tracey 9.1

      them and us aye gormless… you see straight through that strategy though, right?

    • Charles 9.2

      You win the internet. I bow to your ability to create an endless loop of informal “phallusies”.

  10. weka 10

    “Have we become so casual about harassment?”

    Unfortunately Bailey’s story seems common to me. The big difference is that it’s the PM, but are we really going to believe that no PM in NZ has ever abused their power in this kind of way? I think what we have become casual about is not the harassment (we’ve long been casual about that), it’s the acceptance of JK as the lad who can do what he wants. That’s more scarey to me, because at least with sexual harassment we have decades of progressive work and legislation and policy that is changing society for the better. The acceptance of Smile and Wave’s behaviour is insidious and not something that we are addressing as a society.

    • Tracey 10.1

      ive tried to think of ones who would publicly disgrace themselves and their office. clark and shipley in person were warm and friendly in manner. this nonsense that Key has become more accessible to the people is another lie. he has lowered the standing of the office pure and simple. he is boris yeltsinesque in his cringeworthiness.

      • weka 10.1.1

        I think it’s safe to say that NZ hasn’t had a PM like Key before (at least not in my 50 years). It’s the shift away from democracy to plutocracy. It doesn’t matter if Key is an arse, he has powerful friends and mentors and the people he really works for will look after him. We should be very very concerned (but then we should have been already).

        • Tracey 10.1.1.1

          We are getting the best insight into Key , ever. He sees the position as that of a kind of celebrity… or the Queen, not a real job, just expensive window dressing.

  11. felix 11

    Matthew Hooton pretty well nailed the harassment and power issues on nine to noon this morning.

    Points out that Key’s nonsense about how everyone there was always up to lots of hi-jinks and japes is a bit like the Queen saying the whole world smells of paint.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201752162/politics-with-matthew-hooton-and-mike-williams

    • tc 11.1

      Key’s on thin ice here and he knows it, you can tell in his responses especially the one Oliver uses in his Last week Tonight piece.

      Bailey’s statement indicates she was not comfortable, made that known and JK persisted.

      Watch the MSM lackeys and DP machine go hard to cloud this one over on behalf of their beloved cult leader.

      The fact it takes other media around the world to slam home the serious nature of it speaks volumes for how owned and under the govt’s thumb the MSM is in NZ.

    • Tracey 11.2

      Did he screech at any point?

      • felix 11.2.1

        No screech today. I think after last week’s outburst he might have had another little sit-down chat about how he’s feeling about the job 😉

        • Rodel 11.2.1.1

          Nah. Matthew’s just pissed that JK doesn’t see him as relevant. Take little notice.

  12. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12

    The fact it takes other media around the world to slam home the serious nature of it speaks volumes for how owned and under the govt’s thumb the MSM is in NZ.

    Yeah. There’s hardly been any criticism of Key in New Zealand.

    • tc 12.1

      Not where it hurts his popularity you don’t (TVNZ, TV3, radio rant land and of course Herald) but of course you’re aware of that being a RWNJ with a monty python fixation.

      what criticism he does get is normally them following other leads so as not to look so obviously biased which is what’s happened with this issue.

      • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1

        There has been plenty of criticism. Just none going as far as y’all’d like. But that would require the mainstream media to be comparing Key to Jimmy Savile. And saying we are no longer living in a democracy.

        And they’re not going to do that because, on the whole, they’re sane.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 12.1.1.1

          Just so long as the court takes his crime seriously, who cares what his sycophants in the media claim to believe?

          • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.1.1

            Yeah. The crime of light hair-pulling.

            • Tracey 12.1.1.1.1.1

              and there you have it…

              someone who chooses to completely miss the point cos of their self interest served by Mr Key staying.

              leading a fool to the link but you can;t make him think
              http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM327382.html

              • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell

                What’s my self interest of having Key stay?

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  Strictly speaking there wasn’t any to begin with: the National Party destroys wealth as much as it destroys human rights and the rule of law.

                  However, the hubristic self-affirmation you crave distorts your perceptions. Best you lie down.

                  • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell

                    I doubt my life would change much under a Labour government.

            • vto 12.1.1.1.1.2

              No. Assault. Harassment. Bullying. Did you not read the waitress story?

            • One Anonymous Bloke 12.1.1.1.1.3

              You’d endure it would you, The Lickspittle formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell?

        • Tracey 12.1.1.2

          the person perpetuating the Saville meme, is you In almost every post you made today, conveniently overlooking those voices of the labour movement that admonished the only person on here to make the comparison.

          • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.2.1

            I accept it’s a crime. Just not a very big one.

            • McFlock 12.1.1.2.1.1

              Such a shame that our prime minister couldn’t keep himself from committing it. Repeatedly. So rather than just common assault, it also counts as harassment. Maybe even criminal harassment, given that “safety, in relation to any person, includes that person’s mental well-being”.

              I wonder if McCready has gotten that far in his legal dictionary yet? 🙂

  13. Have we become so casual about harassment?

    I don’t think we’ve “become” so casual about harrassment. Corporate suits have always been waitress-molesters and -humiliators, and have always dismissed it as just a bit of good-natured banter. At least now they’re not pinching bums so much as they used to – pulling pony tails could almost be regarded as progress in that respect.

    • Maui 13.1

      Yeah and remember we’re dealing with an ex-Foreign exchange dealer here who can earn obscene amounts. This may be stereotypical (and I’m sure a lot are nice people), but they can be arrogant, get what they want when they want it types, etc. I remember visting the trading room once and they all had ultra-slim space-age chairs that looked like they cost thousands each.

  14. CnrJoe 14

    Anyone care for word from one of David Brents antipodean doppelgangers groupies from out east? Keyreepyness is strong in this one.

    Editorial
    Third-term blues made worse when PM caught acting the goat
    Tuesday, April 28, 2015
    by John Jones

    Will it be a slightly chastened John Key who returns to New Zealand following wide publicity, including in international media, of the incident where he repeatedly pulled a waitress’s ponytail?

    While essentially trivial, it showed Key as something of a clown who is becoming more and more of a polarising figure. The incident also illustrates how Key and National face a third term that is increasingly challenging.

    While many of his supporters were mystified, most — including National’s women MPs — will see it as a minor lapse of judgement that has been blown up out of all proportion by a media looking to create news. Key has apologised they say, let’s move on.

    While he is not at the same level as the late Sir Robert Muldoon, Key has seen a core group develop that is extremely opposed to him and eager to focus on any perceived faults.

    They have tried to magnify the incident into one of bullying and sexual harassment, which is something of a stretch. This can be expected for any third term Prime Minister though; it showed itself in Helen Clark’s last three years in power. People have a habit of falling out of love with politicians.

    This embarrassing incident for Key should not have been allowed to overshadow the more significant duty of representing the country at the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli landings, or the following effort to secure a free trade deal with the wealthy Gulf states.

    The past few weeks have not been good for the National-led Government, starting with the loss of the Northland seat and continuing on with issues like the Auckland housing crisis and a plea from the Reserve Bank for the Government to support its efforts to quell demand.

    One of the main thrusts of the Government must be to show that it has not developed any expectation of a right to govern and become arrogant.

    To do that it needs its charismatic leader to set the tone. Key has to retain his popular (with a majority) blokey image while avoiding any future slips in taste.

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  15. Quote Blinglish, with a straight face:

    “and observed, almost always, the highest standards of appropriate behaviour”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11439938

    “Almost always”? Except when he doesn’t. Oh Bill, I’m going to pee myself.

  16. Drowsy M. Kram 16

    “Leave Mr. Key alone”; “Stop trying to discredit John Key” – sycophants all, lining up to have their hair pulled, or perhaps proffering a partner or daughter. Yet another example of the PM’s standards and ‘values’ (Cup of tea, anyone?) Maybe he remains so popular because his behaviour lets supporters feel good about themselves. John made a public apology as hollow as it was expedient, but he does deserve credit for that.

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  • New era for Ngāti Kuri and Auckland Museum
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • Circling vultures: Why MediaWorks TV is really in trouble
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    Briefing PapersBy Peter Thompson
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  • Scary Opinium Poll
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    3 days ago
  • A coward’s ploy.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
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    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • “Uncertainty” can be better solved with a better grasp of life’s inherent complexities…
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    5 days ago
  • Citizens vs the Rogue Deep State
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Massey University’s free speech policy double-plus-good
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    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Unacceptable
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • There is what corruption looks like
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Escape from Manus Island
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • When World’s Collide.
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    6 days ago
  • Could There Be Method In Massey University’s Madness?
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    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: We need more trees, not less
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • The IGIS annual report: Dead letters and secret law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A referendum on bigotry
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Political parties and GMOs: we all need to move on
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    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    7 days ago
  • Class, Identity Politics and Transgender Ideology
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Irony
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An age of protest.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • NZ First’s dodgy loans
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: The choice on End of Life Choice
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How growth in population and consumption drives planetary change
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • The disappearing Women …
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Contemptuous
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Zero Carbon: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law
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    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: What happens next?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate change will fuel bush fires
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Participation rates
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    SciBlogsBy Michael Reddell
    1 week ago
  • Not So Much “OK Boomer” As “OK Ruling Class”.
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    1 week ago
  • Asking for it …
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    1 week ago
  • New Zealand’s Poor Pandemic Preparedness According to the Global Health Security Index
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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
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    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    1 week ago
  • This is not what armed police are for
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The astroturf party
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How to cheat at university
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    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    1 week ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    1 week ago
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    RedlineBy Daphna
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    2 weeks ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
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    2 weeks ago
  • War of the worms
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    2 weeks ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
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    RedlineBy Daphna
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  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
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    2 weeks ago
  • 1000 of these now
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    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
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  • Has Shane Jones Just Saved NZ First?
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    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: As predicted
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Let this never be forgot
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    2 weeks ago
  • Too Late To Change Capitalism’s Flightpath?
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    2 weeks ago
  • Whooping cough vaccine works well despite its imperfections
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    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Passed
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Retailing of vaping products – New NZ Research
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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Justice for Bomber
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

  • Cowboy clampers will be stymied
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    22 hours ago
  • Mental Health Commission back on track
    Jenny Marcroft, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First welcomes the passage of the Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill through its first reading in Parliament. “Today’s progress takes serious action on the mental health and addiction crisis the country is facing,” says New Zealand First Health Spokesperson Jenny Marcroft. “The re-establishment ...
    23 hours ago
  • New Zealand’s key assets are not for sale: national interest test delivered
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries Today the Government announced the delivery of the promise to protect New Zealand interests by applying a new National Interest Test to the sales of our most sensitive and high risk assets to overseas buyers. This further strengthening of the Overseas Investment Act will ...
    2 days ago
  • National interest test added to protect New Zealanders’ interests
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its promise to protect New Zealanders’ interests by applying a new national interest test to the sales of our most sensitive and high-risk assets to overseas buyers. Under current Overseas Investment Act (OIA) rules, assets such as ports and airports, telecommunications infrastructure, electricity and ...
    2 days ago
  • Electoral law breach allegations
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    2 days ago
  • Wayne Brown hits back at critics: Ports of Auckland has to move
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    3 days ago
  • Week That Was: Supporting our schools
    We're setting our young people up for success, investing in education around the country.  ...
    3 days ago
  • Kiwis to have their say on End of Life Choice
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First backs the public to decide on the End of Life Choice Bill via a referendum at the 2020 General Election. The Bill, with New Zealand First’s referendum provision incorporated, passed its final reading in Parliament this evening. New Zealand First Spokesperson for ...
    7 days ago
  • Addressing miscarriages of justice
    Darroch Ball, Spokesperson for Justice New Zealand First is proud that a key Coalition Agreement commitment which will provide for a more transparent and effective criminal justice system has been realised. Legislation to establish the Criminal Cases Review Commission, an independent body focused on identifying and responding to possible miscarriages of ...
    1 week ago
  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    2 weeks ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
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    2 weeks ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
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    2 weeks ago
  • Week That Was: 2,000 teachers in two years
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    3 weeks ago
  • Winning an election one conversation at a time
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    3 weeks ago

  • APEC 2021 Bill passes first reading
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  • Making progress for our kids
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Māori women in business contribute to our economy, whānau and communities
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Two schools on the way for Omokoroa
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • Families Package helps over 1 million New Zealanders in first year
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Clamp down on wheel clamping passes third reading
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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  • Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill passes first hurdle
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  • Boosting border security with electronic travel authority – now over 500,000 issued
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Plan of action to protect seabirds
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • National interest test added to overseas investment rules
    The Government is delivering on its promise to protect New Zealanders’ interests by applying a new national interest test to the sales of our most sensitive and high risk assets to overseas buyers. Associate Finance Minister David Parker said under current Overseas Investment Act rules, assets such as ports and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New housing part of support for Kaumātua
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    2 days ago
  • Forestry helps prisoners into jobs
    Eleven men from a pilot forestry training programme for prisoners in Northland now have full time jobs or job offers upon release, Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis and Forestry Minister Shane Jones announced today. The ‘release to work’ programme was a collaboration between Te Uru Rākau and the Department of Corrections, ...
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    2 days ago
  • Reform of public service a step closer
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    3 days ago
  • Donations scheme to relieve pressure on families
    The families of more than 416,000 students will be better off next year as their schools have signed up to the Government’s donations scheme, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. The scheme will see almost $62.5 million in additional Government funding go to schools nationwide next year. “I’m really pleased ...
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