Casual harassment

Written By: - Date published: 9:05 am, April 28th, 2015 - 89 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, john key, Minister for International Embarrassment, sexism - Tags: , ,

Key’s line on harassing a waitress is that he’s the most “casual” PM ever. He was just joking around. It was all a bit of fun. He was misinterpreted.

These are the lines of every sexist harassing jerk ever.

These are the lines of male power, in which the female’s point of view (a young woman reduced to tears) is not even acknowledged, let alone taken seriously.

It is shocking how many people uncritically accept and repeat Key’s “explanation”. Have we become so casual about harassment?

89 comments on “Casual harassment”

  1. One Anonymous Bloke 1

    “We” haven’t.

    The National Party has deliberately fostered a string of hate-based narratives against entire sections of society. This is the fruit.

  2. s y d 2

    “butt of benteh”

  3. s y d 3

    For some insight into Tauranag media owners victim blaming and Nat party propaganda read on (if you dare)….

    http://sunlive.co.nz/blogs/8176-pinning-tale-on-johnkey.html

    • Rosemary McDonald 3.1

      Oh…my…goodness….me….

      “It reeks to me of some minion troublemaker, who has discovered she wields a bit of power and attention after riding along with a bit of horse play.

      We do, however, appear to have the odd squealing waitress who is quite capable of speaking out to hordes of media but apparently didn’t tell her boss, or stop John and Bronagh from getting a bit cheeky.

      It will be a sad day if the PC nannies drive us back to the dark humourless days of previous administrations, when the feminist gay nazi brigade tried to dictate every aspect of our lives, including the length of our shower times.”

      He got this right….so to speak….

      “Merciless mocking. We are seen as the Deliverance of the South Pacific, only without the squealing pigs.”

      What….a….wanker….

      • Tracey 3.1.1

        And stlll some blame feminism for not having ” succeeded”… HOW does feminism “succeed” when the media give over so much time and space to the kind of disrespetful, self obsessed ranting shown above… cue Hosking, Henry, Key, add to the list and please, also list the number of feminists given the same kind of exposure on our tv, radio and papers daily. TIA

    • freedom 3.2

      “Andrew Little was just about frothing at the mouth,”
      talk about making it up as you go along. [eye roll emoticon]

      no wonder they need extra sewage works

  4. Penny Bright 4

    If ‘casual’ alleged sexual harrassment / male assaults female, is just ‘horsing around’ – what is inappropriate touching of children?

    Where are the boundaries?

    Where is the ‘moral compass’ / ‘highest ethical standards’ LEADERSHIP?

    Just asking…

    Penny Bright

    • Draco T Bastard 4.1

      Where is the ‘moral compass’ / ‘highest ethical standards’ LEADERSHIP?

      Those are just rules that get in the way of innovative people that want to succeed don’t you know?

      /sarc

    • Murray Rawshark 4.2

      Assaulting adults – horsing around.
      Assaulting children – ponying around.

      Heaps of Kiwis seem to be co-dependent, putting up with anything FJK does.

  5. Clemgeopin 5

    Bob Jones, the pompous money bag has an article today in the Herald minimising Key’s despicable and serious offense!

    Please take a look and consider telling the old goat what you think about his view.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11439407

    • Tautoko Mangō Mata 5.1

      Imagine working as a nurse in a resthome looking after Bob Jones and John Key!

      • Tracey 5.1.1

        Imagine being the nurses looking after Bob Jones or John Key in their exclusive apartments

        FIFY

        • rhinocrates 5.1.1.1

          Imagine them being in a position of physical dependence…

          • Tiger Mountain 5.1.1.1.1

            well there are cases of “I used to be somebody” types getting some ‘karma’ in assisted living situations, but those like the PM and Bob Jones that deserve at least fantasies from the downtrodden in that respect will likely have enough dosh for total private care

          • Hami Shearlie 5.1.1.1.2

            AHHHH!!! One can only dream, Rhinocrates!!

            • Rodel 5.1.1.1.2.1

              Sir Bob has always used the word nonsense about something he hasn’t fully grasped. He could perhaps apply it to his personal insight into women’s thoughts and feelings.

              • les

                ‘Sir’ Bob…accepted a knighthood after years of railing on about ‘token knights’.RJI …hardly mentions that anymore.

    • freedom 5.2

      Duckie nails it
      “The waitress is not 7, nor the Prime Minister’s daughter! What IS nonsense is the media making this about left vs right rather than right vs wrong.”

      • McFlock 5.2.1

        lol
        A woman I know was arguing it was a complete beat-up on key (she has some wonderful merits though, to make up for her abysmal judge of politicians). So we were having a fine old argument, but the king hit was the fact that she’s an early childhood educator. I asked here whether her preschoolers have learnt to not pull each others’ hair if the pullee doesn’t them want to…

        that ended the debate. No concession of defeat (she’s as bad as me when it comes to that 😉 ), but she didn’t have a leg to stand on when she expects better behaviour from her charges than she does from the PM, lol

        • idlegus 5.2.1.1

          isn’t it nice when you see that film lift from their eyes, its like they start to really think about it, & realise there’s something not quite right about it.

          • McFlock 5.2.1.1.1

            lol
            Trouble is we both enjoy arguments for the sake of the mental exercise, so it’s difficult to tell what her true opinions are :winky face:

            And yes, I’m reduced to typing out emoticons in pig-script because the current set are too tiny and not contrasty enough for me to see clearly. Let alone not animated :smiley face:

      • Anne 5.2.2

        Talking of right versus wrong… when the subject of JK’s indiscretion came up today an aquaintance said to me “what it tells me is that he has cheated on his wife”. That may or may not be the case, but I can understand why she might think it.

        • felix 5.2.2.1

          Interesting. How does that work?

          • Anne 5.2.2.1.1

            If he’s happy to ‘play’ with a young woman’s hair in the presence of his wife, then what is he prepared to do on odd occasions when she’s not present? I presume that is what she was suggesting.

    • vto 5.3

      That’s what you expect from a criminal convicted for assault.

      I think his brains have fallen out of his head

    • Julz 5.4

      When will the Herald ever start taking sexual harassment seriously – or any matter to do with women?

      • Tracey 5.4.1

        When Labour is back in Power… That’s when they last gave a shit about Democracy and the last time they cared about politician’s resigning was Cunliffe over an 11 year old letter. Hope that clears it up for you.

        • idlegus 5.4.1.1

          don’t forget cunliffe got raked over the coals for wearing a f*cking scarf, god forbid.

    • les 5.5

      I’d like to hear Jones’ background story as to his 7.y.o daughter whos hair he playfully pulls.Wasn’t her mother originally his Cambodian maid?No surprises he supports Keys power play.

      • Clemgeopin 5.5.1

        This is what as a comment under that comment:

        “You are getting nutty in your old age, Bob! You speak about tugging the pony tail of your seven year old daughter. The tugged victim in the cafe was not seven nor Key’s daughter as far as we know, though we know she is twenty six and a waitress, who was subjected to this humiliation repeatedly by the powerful perpetrator on several occasions and even after being asked to stop! Pictures and videos have also emerged of Key’s propensity towards touching the hair of girls who are not his kids but strangers on the streets. Your article is minimising the scandal.”

      • Tracey 5.5.2

        and she is your seven year old daughter. She presumably knows you. Bob, did you fondle her hair, or caress it?

        IF Bob thinks a waitress is the same as his 7 year old daughter then we are in far bigger trouble than I could have imagined. Children are not property and neither are waitresses.

        He’s putting me in mind of that other old duffer, Prince Phillip, one of NZ’s 20 greatest living New Zulinders, according to our “Leader”.

    • Didn’t Bob have a problem with a couple of people in authority once?
      Speeding ticket or something?

  6. Charles 6

    “…Till then please remember this weekend, those who fell in defence of our freedoms and what they were standing up for.

    It sure as hell wasn’t for some of the complete nonsense we’ve seen this week…”

    http://sunlive.co.nz/blogs/8176-pinning-tale-on-johnkey.html

    I totally agree, Brian, um, Roger, I mean, Peter!

    Everytime I walk to the dairy and then see a newspaper telling me something happened, I always think to myself, “I didn’t walk all the way here to find out people did something once, and now this!!”.

    This PC nonsense has to stop. Motorcycle-riding nude gay-nazi-feminist zombies must be stopped from eating all the pies, and doing the everything else. I died for it in the army, now we have muslims. Soon the RSA will close and Tauranga will become a backwater for people with no money and cheap deckchairs, saving whales on the beach and eating jelly fish eggs. Who will stop them from rampaging like godzilla lizards? Do we really want that?!

  7. Pasupial 7

    Prast demonstrates once more that the cruelest thing you can do to Key is to simply transcribe his nonsense verbatim. Stripped of his facile glibness that masquerades as casualness, the words read like the babbling of un cretino:

    Gower asks “when you accept that you got it wrong, do you accept that you misused your power?” Key replies “No because I didn’t intend to do that.” Gower suggests that “the context really is about power. You’re the Prime Minister. She’s someone working in her job.” Key responds “Yes I understand that’s some people’s argument. There’s a counter argument… for that and I think yeah look by nature I’m a pretty casual person, and I do kid around and have a bit of fun, and I think one of the things that look you know that, look the majority of staff there have enjoyed is the fact that……the opposite, rather than the power sort of thing and me being a bit stuck up I’ve been mucking around and having a bit of fun, now you know ok look in the end I got that wrong and I have to accept that.”

    Is the Prime Minister to be judged by his intentions? Or by what he actually said and did? Is he saying “Because I didn’t mean it, it doesn’t matter.”? Is that the way the law works?…

    In the final analysis, there is no ‘counter-argument’ to consent. No means no. No amount of context, kidding or casual banter can ever transform “No! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!” to “Yes! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!” She said “No”. And still, he touched her. Two bottles of wine won’t cut it. He should have listened to the woman if not his wife and stopped. Too late now, Mr Key.

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/04/28/a-great-white-shark/

    • Tracey 7.1

      Even more hilarious when people realise Pete George is not a satirist in his “opinion” piece after it…

      • rawshark-yeshe 7.1.1

        @tracey couldn’t find it .. do u have a separate link for the unknowing non-satirist ?

        • Tracey 7.1.1.1

          go to scoop and read the key transcript press release

          • rawshark-yeshe 7.1.1.1.1

            thx Tracey … methinks PG has a dictionary with missing words .. ie irony, satire, self-awareness … his writing is quite tragic.

            • Tracey 7.1.1.1.1.1

              the most important hing is that he as self proclaimed that having weighed up everything, Key has done the right thing.

  8. ianmac 8

    One question today:
    “Hon ANNETTE KING to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his statement that “There’s always a risk with third-term Governments that they get arrogant. There’s always a risk that they veer off into a space they haven’t been, and start surprising their supporters”?”
    Someone must answer on his behalf. Bill English perhaps?

    • Tracey 8.1

      The answer to Jan Logie’s will be fascinating…

      • ianmac 8.1.1

        Yep. Nearly missed that one Tracey. Will the Minister claim a different hat?
        “JAN LOGIE to the Minister for Women: Does she consider it her job to advocate for all New Zealand women?”

  9. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 9

    The problem the left has is that everyone else automatically discounts everything it says because of all the frenzied screaming. Middle New Zealand understands that what the PM did was wrong. They also know that the comparisons to Rolf Harris and Jimmy Savile are hysterical and inherently dishonest. You guys end up looking like the bad guys.

    • Tracey 9.1

      them and us aye gormless… you see straight through that strategy though, right?

    • Charles 9.2

      You win the internet. I bow to your ability to create an endless loop of informal “phallusies”.

  10. weka 10

    “Have we become so casual about harassment?”

    Unfortunately Bailey’s story seems common to me. The big difference is that it’s the PM, but are we really going to believe that no PM in NZ has ever abused their power in this kind of way? I think what we have become casual about is not the harassment (we’ve long been casual about that), it’s the acceptance of JK as the lad who can do what he wants. That’s more scarey to me, because at least with sexual harassment we have decades of progressive work and legislation and policy that is changing society for the better. The acceptance of Smile and Wave’s behaviour is insidious and not something that we are addressing as a society.

    • Tracey 10.1

      ive tried to think of ones who would publicly disgrace themselves and their office. clark and shipley in person were warm and friendly in manner. this nonsense that Key has become more accessible to the people is another lie. he has lowered the standing of the office pure and simple. he is boris yeltsinesque in his cringeworthiness.

      • weka 10.1.1

        I think it’s safe to say that NZ hasn’t had a PM like Key before (at least not in my 50 years). It’s the shift away from democracy to plutocracy. It doesn’t matter if Key is an arse, he has powerful friends and mentors and the people he really works for will look after him. We should be very very concerned (but then we should have been already).

        • Tracey 10.1.1.1

          We are getting the best insight into Key , ever. He sees the position as that of a kind of celebrity… or the Queen, not a real job, just expensive window dressing.

  11. felix 11

    Matthew Hooton pretty well nailed the harassment and power issues on nine to noon this morning.

    Points out that Key’s nonsense about how everyone there was always up to lots of hi-jinks and japes is a bit like the Queen saying the whole world smells of paint.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201752162/politics-with-matthew-hooton-and-mike-williams

    • tc 11.1

      Key’s on thin ice here and he knows it, you can tell in his responses especially the one Oliver uses in his Last week Tonight piece.

      Bailey’s statement indicates she was not comfortable, made that known and JK persisted.

      Watch the MSM lackeys and DP machine go hard to cloud this one over on behalf of their beloved cult leader.

      The fact it takes other media around the world to slam home the serious nature of it speaks volumes for how owned and under the govt’s thumb the MSM is in NZ.

    • Tracey 11.2

      Did he screech at any point?

      • felix 11.2.1

        No screech today. I think after last week’s outburst he might have had another little sit-down chat about how he’s feeling about the job 😉

        • Rodel 11.2.1.1

          Nah. Matthew’s just pissed that JK doesn’t see him as relevant. Take little notice.

  12. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12

    The fact it takes other media around the world to slam home the serious nature of it speaks volumes for how owned and under the govt’s thumb the MSM is in NZ.

    Yeah. There’s hardly been any criticism of Key in New Zealand.

    • tc 12.1

      Not where it hurts his popularity you don’t (TVNZ, TV3, radio rant land and of course Herald) but of course you’re aware of that being a RWNJ with a monty python fixation.

      what criticism he does get is normally them following other leads so as not to look so obviously biased which is what’s happened with this issue.

      • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1

        There has been plenty of criticism. Just none going as far as y’all’d like. But that would require the mainstream media to be comparing Key to Jimmy Savile. And saying we are no longer living in a democracy.

        And they’re not going to do that because, on the whole, they’re sane.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 12.1.1.1

          Just so long as the court takes his crime seriously, who cares what his sycophants in the media claim to believe?

          • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.1.1

            Yeah. The crime of light hair-pulling.

            • Tracey 12.1.1.1.1.1

              and there you have it…

              someone who chooses to completely miss the point cos of their self interest served by Mr Key staying.

              leading a fool to the link but you can;t make him think
              http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM327382.html

              • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell

                What’s my self interest of having Key stay?

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  Strictly speaking there wasn’t any to begin with: the National Party destroys wealth as much as it destroys human rights and the rule of law.

                  However, the hubristic self-affirmation you crave distorts your perceptions. Best you lie down.

                  • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell

                    I doubt my life would change much under a Labour government.

            • vto 12.1.1.1.1.2

              No. Assault. Harassment. Bullying. Did you not read the waitress story?

            • One Anonymous Bloke 12.1.1.1.1.3

              You’d endure it would you, The Lickspittle formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell?

        • Tracey 12.1.1.2

          the person perpetuating the Saville meme, is you In almost every post you made today, conveniently overlooking those voices of the labour movement that admonished the only person on here to make the comparison.

          • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.2.1

            I accept it’s a crime. Just not a very big one.

            • McFlock 12.1.1.2.1.1

              Such a shame that our prime minister couldn’t keep himself from committing it. Repeatedly. So rather than just common assault, it also counts as harassment. Maybe even criminal harassment, given that “safety, in relation to any person, includes that person’s mental well-being”.

              I wonder if McCready has gotten that far in his legal dictionary yet? 🙂

  13. Have we become so casual about harassment?

    I don’t think we’ve “become” so casual about harrassment. Corporate suits have always been waitress-molesters and -humiliators, and have always dismissed it as just a bit of good-natured banter. At least now they’re not pinching bums so much as they used to – pulling pony tails could almost be regarded as progress in that respect.

    • Maui 13.1

      Yeah and remember we’re dealing with an ex-Foreign exchange dealer here who can earn obscene amounts. This may be stereotypical (and I’m sure a lot are nice people), but they can be arrogant, get what they want when they want it types, etc. I remember visting the trading room once and they all had ultra-slim space-age chairs that looked like they cost thousands each.

  14. CnrJoe 14

    Anyone care for word from one of David Brents antipodean doppelgangers groupies from out east? Keyreepyness is strong in this one.

    Editorial
    Third-term blues made worse when PM caught acting the goat
    Tuesday, April 28, 2015
    by John Jones

    Will it be a slightly chastened John Key who returns to New Zealand following wide publicity, including in international media, of the incident where he repeatedly pulled a waitress’s ponytail?

    While essentially trivial, it showed Key as something of a clown who is becoming more and more of a polarising figure. The incident also illustrates how Key and National face a third term that is increasingly challenging.

    While many of his supporters were mystified, most — including National’s women MPs — will see it as a minor lapse of judgement that has been blown up out of all proportion by a media looking to create news. Key has apologised they say, let’s move on.

    While he is not at the same level as the late Sir Robert Muldoon, Key has seen a core group develop that is extremely opposed to him and eager to focus on any perceived faults.

    They have tried to magnify the incident into one of bullying and sexual harassment, which is something of a stretch. This can be expected for any third term Prime Minister though; it showed itself in Helen Clark’s last three years in power. People have a habit of falling out of love with politicians.

    This embarrassing incident for Key should not have been allowed to overshadow the more significant duty of representing the country at the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli landings, or the following effort to secure a free trade deal with the wealthy Gulf states.

    The past few weeks have not been good for the National-led Government, starting with the loss of the Northland seat and continuing on with issues like the Auckland housing crisis and a plea from the Reserve Bank for the Government to support its efforts to quell demand.

    One of the main thrusts of the Government must be to show that it has not developed any expectation of a right to govern and become arrogant.

    To do that it needs its charismatic leader to set the tone. Key has to retain his popular (with a majority) blokey image while avoiding any future slips in taste.

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  15. Quote Blinglish, with a straight face:

    “and observed, almost always, the highest standards of appropriate behaviour”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11439938

    “Almost always”? Except when he doesn’t. Oh Bill, I’m going to pee myself.

  16. Drowsy M. Kram 16

    “Leave Mr. Key alone”; “Stop trying to discredit John Key” – sycophants all, lining up to have their hair pulled, or perhaps proffering a partner or daughter. Yet another example of the PM’s standards and ‘values’ (Cup of tea, anyone?) Maybe he remains so popular because his behaviour lets supporters feel good about themselves. John made a public apology as hollow as it was expedient, but he does deserve credit for that.

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    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    5 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    5 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    6 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    1 week ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    1 week ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    1 week ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    1 week ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    2 weeks ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

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