Written By:
lprent - Date published:
5:09 pm, May 6th, 2009 - 20 comments
Categories: auckland supercity -
Tags: democracy under attack, phil twyford, Rodney Hide, supershity
It appears that the propaganda campaign from Rodney Hide to push his proposal of the super-city has cost $533,000 in PR costs in the last 4 weeks. Phil Twyford (Labour’s Auckland issues spokesperson) comment is that:-
It’s outrageous that the Government is prepared to spend an average of $133,000 a week on a publicity blitz, which has not even included the fundamental information Auckland ratepayers need to make an informed decision about the Super City that is how much will it cost?
Yeah – how much is this damn plan going to mean to my rates for the next 3 years while they sort it out?
Hyde‘s proposal is uncosted. The Royal Commission’s proposals were thrown out almost completely, with essentially the only common features with the Hyde’s plan being that there is a Auckland council (with a different composition), a lord mayor, and a unified rates(?) system. The vast majority of the plans are different. So all of the meticulous costings by the Royal Commission were thrown out as well. At present the Hyde is flying blind with no idea of the costs of his plan to the rate-payers.
So why in the hell is he spending my taxes to promote an un-costed proposal to me? Possibly because the cost is going to be crazy? Some of the figures floating about are for something like $550 each in the first year for the Royal Commission’s version. The restructuring costs alone look like they’re going to be a lot larger under Hyde’s useless plan.
Well my total rates bill including the ARC is about $1000 per year – does that mean I’m going to get a 50% increase?
There are 1.4 million people in Auckland, so Hyde has already spent close to five bucks of my money to tell me what his plan is, and I haven’t even got the damn pamphlet! Hyde (and Key) probably think that this is ‘consultation‘ – yeah right! Seems more like a finance company salesman telling me about a risk-free investment and hoping to get the commission before the company folds.
How much more will he boondoggle of my money to promote his wild scheme before I find out what kinds of costs that he is trying to sell me on?
update: Thanks for those telling me that Hyde should be spelt Hide – I think that you’re wrong. He has gone from a friendly gnome or the dancing of Grope the Stars to snakeoil salesman without drinking a potion.
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It should be Key and Hyde, or Hide and Key.
Personally I prefer that it wasn’t either of them. However they’re there, so they should at least cost what it will mean for my rates before they try and sell me on what looks like a really stupid plan.
I was looking at the relationship between the Key of 2008 – if the people want Labour lite then that is the government John Key will lead and now the Key of 2009 (in tandem with Hide) who does not care what the people of Auckland want. The real Jeckyll and Hyde is John Key.
Ah – sorry I’m slow today – just getting over a cold…
Key is really more ‘Machiavelli’ than ‘Jeckyl & Hyde’ surely?
Nah – Key doesn’t have the brains he’s more Howdy Doody with the Business Round Table pulling the strings.
Never mind Hide and Key… how about all four of the partners using the US abbreviation style so instead of Brangelina you could have Hiddun Turkey
“Thanks for those telling me that Hyde should be spelt Hide – I think that you’re wrong. He has gone from a friendly gnome or the dancing of Grope the Stars to snakeoil salesman without drinking a potion.”
This from the bloke that gets so upset when anyone spelt dear former leader’s name wrong that he set an auto filter up to stomp it out. Case of what’s good for the goose being a little too sour for the gander?
For my part I couldn’t care less if people want to spell others names deliberately incorrectly. I instinctively dismissed people out of hand when they spelt Clark with a K. I’ve seen schoolboys with more originality.
I was about to mention that, Mike. Poor form, lp
I wasn’t complaining about Klark etc.. I’m far more direct than that. I just added them to auto-moderation. If people chose to use them, then they took the consequences. Fits exactly into Act philosophy really…
I’m not concerned with playing with names and language for effect (in this case to point out the difference between Hide as a campaigner vs Hyde as a minister). I do get annoyed with over-use of such devices – just read Wishart or Whale or Robinsod to see what I mean.
Getting back on topic. In Feb Hide was talking about doing a slash and burn across the council staff. So presumably he has been working on it since then. In which case he should have some costs for the restructure. Otherwise, why has he gone into persuasion mode.
Look if he doesn’t have costs for this plan of his, then why is he trying to sell it. I could have just used the word conman, because that is exactly what that approach reminds me of. Instead I chose to highlight the arrogance of power that he is exhibiting.
Manukau as an area which has retained community ownership of assets is most at risk in any new Super City – as other areas may agree to pool region wide assets and or privatise them.
And now Hide/Boscawen/Garret have sold their party down the river on the Gang Patch Bill. So much for personal freedom being a platform for ACT. I covered the issue here
Hide is getting out of control, telling Aucklanders, his own voters, and pretty much all of New Zealand that they can go and get stuffed.
Obviously it is such a good idea that all the opponants can do is to slag the mover since they have no sensible arguments against the proposal.
We have many arguments against the proposal. Not that we really know what the proposal is – there is no detail. There isn’t even a settlement of the number of local boards.
However Key has said that we will not be listened to seriously. A few months of select committee hearings, where it is clear that the arrogant NACT members are not going to listen, is not consultation. Not having a referendum means that we have no control on the results. That isn’t going to make Aucklanders happy with the process.
The real problem is that NACT are too arrogant to listen. So they’ll get rebellion.
jcuknz – what on earth are you talking about? Try reading the numerous sensible contributions, arguments and alternatives on this site and others if you want to see some sense.
I’ll believe that select committee hearings will be proper consultation when I see it. At the moment I can just go off what has happened regarding the RMA select committee hearings – ie. most people weren’t even told about them, and those that were had about 3 minutes to state their case.
Hopefully we might get slightly more than 2 days of hearings in Auckland this time around.
Isn’t it ironic that a hard-core Labour supporter is blogging about wasted taxes? Sheesh! Where have you been for the past nine years and where were your complaints then?
Need an example? Think KiwiRail. “Purchased” for $640 million, real cost well over $1 billion – actual value: $440 million. NOW that’s an uncosted project.