Labour’s Kiwibuild is popular

Written By: - Date published: 9:49 am, August 9th, 2016 - 81 comments
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More good news for the political left in the fine print of yesterday’s Newshub-Reid Research poll:

Labour’s KiwiBuild popular with voters

Labour’s policy of building 100,000 affordable homes over 10 years for first-home buyers is supported by a clear majority of voters.

The latest Newshub-Reid Research poll shows 56 percent of voters want the policy, with 41 percent against.

It’s another blow on the housing front for National, as it shows Labour’s signature policy has significant support.

National will not build houses for first-home buyers, meaning the policy is a clear difference with a Labour-Green Government.

If you like the policy, vote for the parties.

Prime Minister John Key says the poll result is not a sign the current system is failing.

Yeah it is. That’s why the country has been talking about a housing crisis all year.

81 comments on “Labour’s Kiwibuild is popular”

  1. Colonial Viper 1

    Do these 56% of people polled not realise that the majority of them will not be able to afford one of these “affordable” $500K to $600K houses (i.e. minimum $600K to $700K by the time the first one is built).

    • Bob 1.1

      These 56% of people probably haven’t looked into the fine print. But I can almost guarantee that they haven’t looked into the details of any parties policy details.
      Politics these days is all about headlines and soundbites, Labour have finally hit on one that resonates. About time!
      Let’s see how long until National realise this policy is a real threat and go hard on the offensive before delivering a watered down version themselves.

      • Colonial Viper 1.1.1

        That’s not going to be National’s election year style. My prediction on their main line of attack. Come the TV debates, National will tear holes in these not affordable “affordable” houses and consequently position Labour as being totally out of touch with the realistic financial position of ordinary families.

        • Enough is Enough 1.1.1.1

          It will be another “show me the money” type rhetoric from Key.

          Brainless but effective

        • Lanthanide 1.1.1.2

          “National will tear holes in these not affordable “affordable” houses and consequently position Labour as being totally out of touch with the realistic financial position of ordinary families.”

          Not in such a straightforward manner as you suggest, though, because National doesn’t have any plans for how to make houses cheaper than Labour’s proposal. They keep banging on about supply but then refuse to actually do anything about it.

          Key keeps saying “go look on trademe, plenty of houses for under $500k”. That was somewhat true when he first said it back in 2013. It’s not true any more.

          • Chris 1.1.1.2.1

            “Not in such a straightforward manner as you suggest, though, because National doesn’t have any plans for how to make houses cheaper than Labour’s proposal.”

            That won’t matter. Key and National will simply say Labour’s numbers don’t add up and people will believe it regardless of whether it’s true or not.

            • ankerawshark 1.1.1.2.1.1

              Great. Plenty of time for Labour to come up with responses to take the fizz out of National’s meaningless soundbites……………….and if Key pulls one they are not expecting, remember the old saying, “you can fool some of the people for some of the time, etc…..”

              In “but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time” may be relevant when we see strong support for Kiwibuild. Its the beginning of people no longer being so easily fooled by John Key.

              • Labour just has to have its numbers straight and Andrew needs them in his head and ready to go before the debates.

                The reason this line of attack worked on the CGT was that people already perceived it as on-the-cuff policy, Cunliffe didn’t have a reply ready, and National for some dumb reason is perceived as knowing a lot about the economy.

                The government has already lost all credibility on housing so if Labour has its defense ready it will be hard for Key to land any body blows on this issue.

                • Chris

                  “The government has already lost all credibility on housing so if Labour has its defense ready it will be hard for Key to land any body blows on this issue.”

                  I sincerely hope you’re correct. I’m just not convinced from what you’re saying that that’s the case. What is it that’s changed so much?

                  • That the media consensus is that they’ve stuffed up housing as an issue.

                    It’s one thing if they’ve legitimately stuffed up policy but most New Zealanders never hear about it due to our captive media. It’s another when the news actually has to acknowledge there’s a problem and political commentators are harassing the government over their word games as to whether it’s a housing crisis or not- the second one loses the government credibility and makes it really hard for them to attack until they are perceived as having a leg to stand on.

                    That’s not to say Labour shouldn’t, if they’re ever in a similar situation, try and shore up the ground for an attack. In politics you always want to attack at the place your opponent is perceived as being strongest so that you don’t leave them with any good ground to retreat onto. But National isn’t going to manage that on housing, it’ll be a matter of how much they can make the pre-election narrative about things they feel they can sell as successes, but housing is basically going to be a free pass to beat up the government not because they haven’t been trying, (they have, in a National kind of way) but simply because they obviously haven’t been willing to spend money on the issue and the things they’ve been trying are all of the easy levers when the issue is well past that, and it’s obvious even to people who don’t get what’s going on with politics that housing is getting insane.

        • Chuck 1.1.1.3

          National will use the Lab/Gr MOU against them come election time.

          Que TV debate: One of many attack lines – Key will ask if Little supports his MOU partners stance of? “Government intervening in the housing market to reduce house prices by up to 50%”

          Kiwibuild is another…in theory it sounds good, to deliver on it is another. And as CV points out National will have a field day come debate time.

          Meanwhile a rumor I hear – the Nats are working on “My first home” program the land component is Govt owned, so cost to buy is the improvements and a small ongoing lease cost 🙂

          • ankerawshark 1.1.1.3.1

            F those bastards ie. the Nats will do anything to stay in power. Its got nothing to do with having a plan to support all NZders . If it looks like they are losing ground then they will make policy on the hoof (after they have done all the damage). This is like a relationship where one partner is an arse, does what they like and then when their partners about to walk, they pull out the lolli-pops. Surely any dumb arse can see through this? Is not love or decency its manipulation,power and control……………………………..

          • Matthew Whitehead 1.1.1.3.2

            Indeed, that seems a likely attack. Hopefully they will be smart and will have already asked the Greens for the degree they want to co-ordinate on all key policies, and then simply say that minor policies will be up for negotiation on an as-needed basis before the election, and during coalition talks.

            This is a line of attack that could really backfire if it makes Labour and the Greens look cohesive and organised, so I get the impression it’ll only show up in areas where there’s already indication that policies won’t be tightly co-ordinated, so it would be good to have some ambush answers ready pre-debate on those.

          • mickysavage 1.1.1.3.3

            Interesting Chuck. Can you provide any further information?

        • AmaKiwi 1.1.1.4

          Colonial Viper 1.1.1

          Not if Labour pulls a “Bernie Sanders.”

          “NZ is wealthy enough that no child should have to live in a garage or a car.”

          But if they get bogged down in neoliberal business details they will be playing by the enemy’s rule book. Then they will lose every time.

          • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.4.1

            Indeed.

            As you know, one definition of true political power is the ability to define and constrain the parameters of the ‘acceptable’ discussion.

            But who in NZ Labour is going to lead the way as our Bernie Sanders (or Jeremy Corbyn)?

            • AmaKiwi 1.1.1.4.1.1

              Winston Peters?

            • The Pink Postman 1.1.1.4.1.2

              Andrew Little is proving that he is certainly on the Left . As a far leftie i am becoming very comfortable with Andrew’s policy statements.
              I am however disappointing in David Shearers attitude and I am wondering if he will not stand in 2017,

              • The Fairy Godmother

                I know its not usually done but any Labour member is entitled to put a nomination in for any Labour seat. Usually its not done where there is a sitting MP. There is no reason why it can’t though. If there is enough support for a challenger in Mt Albert he could be rolled. It is that time in the election cycle where this could happen.

              • Leftie

                I would like to see David Shearer go too The Pink Postman.

              • …Andrew Little is a placeholder to appease people who voted for David Cunliffe without actually being Cunliffe. I’ll be surprised if he gives a solid performance in the debates as I’ve been disappointed with him in Question Time thus far.

                He’s certainly no Bernie Sanders. Cunliffe was our chance at that happening from inside Labour, and he accepted being rolled.

        • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.5

          If they do that then they’re going to have to admit that their economic management has caused an increase in poverty and they won’t do that.

    • Garibaldi 1.2

      National will do anything to win.

      • Colonial Viper 1.2.1

        Why aren’t the Left willing to do anything to win? Like getting actual people actually affordable accommodation. Not $500k to $600k houses which is great if you make $120K per year.

        • weizguy 1.2.1.1

          Genuinely interested – what’s your policy proposal to make this happen?

          • Leftie 1.2.1.1.1

            Good question. I would be very interested in a response to that. Doesn’t look like you will get an answer though.

            • Chris 1.2.1.1.1.1

              Surely for you, Leftie, that’s Labour’s Kiwibuild you so solidly endorse, you disingenuous lying piece of poo. You’re a fucking disgrace. Fuck off, you disgusting lying little prick.

              • Leftie

                More time wasting, unnecessary, pointless abuse from you Chris. Clearly you suffer from anger issues and it certainly looks like you’ve lost your grip and can’t handle anything. So if anyone needs to go, its you, as I have a right to express my opinions just like everyone else, and if you don’t like it, well, you know what to do.

          • AmaKiwi 1.2.1.1.2

            @ Weizguy

            “Genuinely interested – what’s your policy proposal to make this happen? (Houses that can be afforded by couples earning $120,000 a year.)

            By the standards in most advanced European and east Asian countries our homes are enormous and the land they occupy is disgracefully wasteful. I am pained to see our trashy developments here. In the Netherlands, for example, since WW2 (or earlier) they have been building much more space efficient housing with landscaping that blocks urban unsightliness and gives the feeling of green fields and forests.

            Our urban residences are a century out of date.

            Our developers don’t want a bar of it because the more expensive the residence the more profit they make.

            • Rocco Siffredi 1.2.1.1.2.1

              “By the standards in most advanced European and east Asian countries our homes are enormous and the land they occupy is disgracefully wasteful”

              Advanced European countries, increasingly, don’t have families. They don’t need enormous and wasteful family houses. Oddly, NZ seems to still have these things.

              “n the Netherlands, for example, since WW2 (or earlier) they have been building much more space efficient housing with landscaping that blocks urban unsightliness and gives the feeling of green fields and forests.”

              The average size of a house in the Netherlands is 98m2, in NZ it’s 200m2. Given much of the housing problem is with large families in South Auckland, how is building lots of little apartments a solution?

          • Matthew Whitehead 1.2.1.1.3

            You would need to do several things together to get affordable houses that can be sold sub-$500k.
            I think the first thing to do is take a lot of the short-to-medium term measures to cool the market, ie. remove the shortcuts and incentives for property investors, restrict ownership to residents, and maybe even put a temporary freeze on second-home buyers in Wellington and Auckland. (The issue with this is that Labour won’t even admit they want house prices to drop, which is a necessary part of the equation to get genuinely affordable housing)

            THEN you start snapping up sections in affordable suburbs once those measures have a corrective shock on the market, and build modest townhouses on subdivided properties.

        • billmurray 1.2.1.2

          CV, you are right ,it is smoke and mirrors propaganda from Labour, to be able to get a mortgage from a Bank you will need to have about $120,000 cash and a wage or a combined wage of at least $100,000 per annum to afford the mortgage.
          If they are built then most of them will go to well off immigrants.
          We all want to see Labour start surging in the polls, Kiwi-build will probably give them a lift but when the realities of money requirements become well known it will cause poll drift down.

          The answer is free or dirt cheap sections to NZ citizens only (one off) , but I for one do not believe that Labour has the inclination or the balls for a such socialistic policy.
          Labour will also have to deal with the Chinese about articles 138 and 139 of the 2008 FTA with China, Labour is absolutely stum on this sell-out by them in 2008.

          • jcuknz 1.2.1.2.1

            I like the National rumour of leasehold properties. It is something I thought of awhile back.
            But the real need as I see it is that there needs to be more affordable rentals so that folk can save for their deposit or live at a higher standard of living.

            All these ‘affordable’ homes for first time buyers is getting more people indebted to the bank for a lifetime…. better would be more people paying 25% income as renters … that assumes one is interested in the standard of living of ones population rather than helping banks make larger profits.

        • srylands 1.2.1.3

          No it’s not. 600k houses are only good if you are earning 200 k per year.

          We need to bring average Auckland prices down to 300k..

    • Siobhan 1.3

      The whole thing is bizarre.

      How many of the people questioned already own a house and are just flippantly thinking “oh yeah, affordable housing, that sounds nice’….Sooner or latter it will mean more cheap housing out in the boondocks that we can buy up as rentals.

      A classic example being Flaxmere in the Hawkes Bay.
      Set up as desirable but affordable, houses owned by working class folk in the meatworks and orchards, it very quickly became a ‘slum’.
      As that population ages the owner occupied houses are not being brought by their children, who’s wages and conditions are being set lower and lower.
      The houses are being brought by landlords, and now, Auckland based landlords.

      Meanwhile, in this poll, I suspect the 41% ‘against’ are the folk who don’t own a house and realise that if $500k is the definition of ‘affordable’ , then they are screwed.

      It’s the sort of policy that even traditional National voters, and Labour voting baby-boomers with million dollar houses can get behind as the chances of it ‘crashing’ the market seem non existent.

      • Garibaldi 1.3.1

        Please don’t take offence Siobhan but you might find this mnemonic handy….
        “buy/bought bring/brought”.

    • Sigh 1.4

      Actually the majority of the 50k homes in Auckland will be under $500k as they will be townhouses and apartments. The other 50k homes in the rest of NZ will be around $350k. Read the effing policy man.

      • Colonial Viper 1.4.1

        Happy to bet you real money that the vast majority (>80%) of the 50K homes in Auckland will be over $500,000 by the time they are built and sold.

      • Rocco Siffredi 1.4.2

        Only if they are planning on building a majority of 40m2 apartments at $450k a pop. It’s impossible to deliver a townhouse in Auckland for less than $500k.

    • DoublePlusGood 1.5

      I realise I won’t be able to afford an ‘affordable’ house. It’s still a good start.

      • Garibaldi 1.5.1

        DoublePlus Good. Are you sure about that? We can’t just muddle around the edges of neoliberalism. There needs to be a complete rethink of where this society is going .Tinkering around with some feel good “affordable ” houses doesn’t address our deep problems of poverty while the rich get richer. NEOLIBERALISM HAS TO GO.

  2. Anno1701 2

    The point we are at currently with housing prices/crisis , any additional supply will just exacerbate the situation

    Our property is available for purchase by a large chunk of the global population with no real barriers to entry at all

    so unless we build like MILLIONS of houses , all its gonna do is add fuel to the already rampaging fire …

  3. Ad 3

    My impulse if I ruled the world would be to find as much state-held land as I could eg at Whenuapai, or Papakura, Ministry of Health, or Kiwirail when it’s near cities, mark it all down to zero, and then give it away to developers, who would then only be able to sell it for the cost of building the house plus 10% margin.

    And then I would use the Public Works Act and buy up all the golf courses and greyhounds tracks and horse racing tracks anywhere near cities and do the same.

    If Labour gets into office and Twyford gets to implement his policy, he is going to have a field day as a Minister. Literally, with fields.

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      nice one Ad

    • Brigid 3.2

      No, don’t give it to developers. Have your government set up a land developing/house building entity to do it all. Then sell it to low income people on 3% fixed rate loans. Just like happened in the olden days.

      • Craig H 3.2.1

        That one, but price it at 3.5 x buyer’s income. If the state takes a loss, so be it.

        • Colonial Viper 3.2.1.1

          It doesn’t matter if the state “takes a loss” because the state has the reserve bank which can supply to the state whatever monies is required.

      • Ad 3.2.2

        Twyford is keen on UDA’s. Which is cool but they would take quite a bit of time to set up, including enabling legislation and a massive HNZ restructure, and he is going to need results within 1 year if his policy is to work. He will run out of time forming his own state machinery, so that’s the wrong route practically speaking.

        What Mr Savage did was co-opt Mr. Jim Fletcher and others to get the things up. In turn, Mr Fletcher formed a major building multinational company, which is still domiciled here. And we need a whole bunch more of those to pull up our productivity and local ownership.

        • Draco T Bastard 3.2.2.1

          What Mr Savage did was co-opt Mr. Jim Fletcher and others to get the things up.

          Yeah, and now look at how fucked our building industry is with such a powerful corporation dominating it.

          I suggest that we don’t do it again.

      • Draco T Bastard 3.2.3

        Don’t need to and shouldn’t be charging interest.

    • Reddelusion 3.3

      Why would a developer enter into such a deal if he can do better elsewhere. likewise the value of a house is not cost plus, once it is sold its value will reflect supply and demand not its cost to build

      • Ad 3.3.1

        All good questions.

        The first depends on the profit proposed overall. That profit might include their degree of control over their supply chain so they can take margins at all transactions. It also might depend upon the form of the commercial relationship, such as in Hobsonville where the state has come up with a JV, but multiple designers and builders. It might also depend on the certainty of the job: a developer may decide to take a lower margin if they have (say) six years of state guaranteed work in front of them. There’s lots of ways to get the right margin for the right relationship.

        As to your second point, that’s up to the state as client to a degree to direct the designer and developer what the spec is, what the price point, and hence what market to sell into.

        These are things that – at the moment – only HNZ has the capacity to get right. A future Minister of Housing is going to need to pull in a whole lot of help, fast. They will need the entire construction and building industry on board very very quickly. But I am confident Twyford can do it – he’s been sounding the field out for many years on this.

        • Reddelusion 3.3.1.1

          Fair point but if you are going to draw in private capital and firms you will compete with alternative investments thus there will be a cost to making it attractive. I quite like the idea of the government owning the land and the purchaser only buying the capital improvement and a lease cost on interest on original value of land
          or more re progressing to outright ownership. Alternatively the right to buy land down the track at agreed value marked up at risk free rate, thus not subject to rampant house inflation, any future sales can also only sell land at same rate, thus keeping property at an affordable value I am sure however there will be down sides re applying these artificial constraints

  4. Hmmmm…after 9 long years of abusing the NZ public and playing us for fools… the Key led National party has in store for itself the same fate as this unfortunate historic event …

    • Reddelusion 4.1

      How do you relate the two, while I believe national will sink labour again next year without to much fuss, should they not I fail to see how 3 terms is a political failure

      • Leftie 4.1.1

        Doubt if anyone would call 3 terms of mismanagement and failure a success Reddelusion, I can see why Wild katipo is likening National to the Titanic.

        • Reddelusion 4.1.1.1

          Can’t argue it’s a political failure though, that’s my point

          • Stuart Munro 4.1.1.1.1

            It depends perhaps on how low one’s standards are.

            And there is a pendulum, you know, where things swing back with greater force when they have gone too far.

            This government is unbelievably bad – when this corruption is scoured from our public institutions some sanitary measures may be introduced that keep the oldschool Gnats out for several generations. After all, none hold their sinecures on performance.

            • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.1.1.1

              This government is unbelievably bad – when this corruption is scoured from our public institutions some sanitary measures may be introduced that keep the oldschool Gnats out for several generations.

              Just some good, well enforced laws against corruption would see to that. There’d never be a Tory government ever again.

            • jcuknz 4.1.1.1.1.2

              The trouble is that the National government has largely been good for NZ during the past years with certain exceptions … housing being the worst one …. you can sling your mud at me but that is the truth of the situation which certain folk simply cannot see for their blinkers.

              What Labour has to do in the next year is to prove to me that it can do better … which it isn’t to date when its leader confuses a ‘withdrawal of supply’ with a ‘ban’ and gets slaughtered in the House by John Key .. such a basic error it is quite unbelievable he hopes to replace JK.

        • Chris 4.1.1.2

          Please fuck off with your disingenuous claptrap. It adds nothing, which just shows you up for the Labour troll that you are. Please, please, Leftie, why don’t you just FUCK OFF!!!

          • Leftie 4.1.1.2.1

            Your pointless stalking and trolling abuse doesn’t add to the discussion Chris, you’re lowering the tone of these threads, perhaps you should follow your own advice.

      • WILD KATIPO 4.1.2

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10468960/Aroha-of-McGehan-Close-flees-NZ

        THIS … before Key was even PM.

        And hes been a colossal failure ever since.

        In fact,… worse.

  5. Sabine 5

    newshub poll.

    should nick smith be sacked. 🙂
    of course he should, not for incompetence but for not giving a shit about the country he is supposedly representing.

    but then some may disagree

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/opinion/opinion-little-calls-for-fifth-minister-to-be-sacked-2016080914#axzz4Gnx1n96L

    • Leftie 5.1

      Duncan Garner KNOWS that every one of those National ministers should be sacked, particularly Smith, who has been sacked before. Why John the Con dragged that corpse back from the dead is anyone’s guess, when other National ministers/mps could have done an equally bad job.

      • Sabine 5.1.1

        because he does as a good boy should. that is why john has revived teh cropse of nick.

        how hard is that to understand?

        • Chris 5.1.1.1

          It’s not hard to understand for anyone except Leftie, but Leftie will never understand because he’s a shill for Labour. He adds nothing to any discussion and for that reason should be permanently banned from this site. For exactly the same reasons Pete George was banned. And for the same reasons fisiani and infused et al should not be banned. All Leftie ever says is Labour is good and National is bad. He’s a filthy Labour troll that needs to be cut loose from this site.

          • Leftie 5.1.1.1.1

            Don’t be such a drama queen Chris, you’re over exaggerating and behaving like Pete George, a bitter and twisted Nat, and you have no right whatsoever to call for a permanent ban. There is something wrong with you that you have launched into this mindless crusade of abuse, not my problem that you can’t handle it.

        • Leftie 5.1.1.2

          Sabine, and here I was thinking it was John the Con doing a favour for a mate who lost face, and to get his snout back into the trough.

  6. Time for Labour to modernize Labour’s State Advance Loans.
    Most of “working class’ house’s were made possible by the State Advance Loans in the 1960/70s.

  7. save nz 7

    Great to see positive policy from Labour.

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    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    4 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    5 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    6 days ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    6 days ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    7 days ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
    In 1994, I was editing an ambitious street mag called Planet, from a fabled office at at 309 Karangahape Road. The thirteenth issue of the magazine was published in the winter of that year and its cover embodied a particularly ambitious goal: the end of cannabis prohibition.I wanted to do ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Not impressed
    KiwiBuild was one of the Ardern government's core policies. The government would end the housing crisis and make housing affordable again by building 100,000 new homes. Of course, it didn't work out like that: targets weren't met, the houses they did build were in the wrong place, and the whole ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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