Nothing to hide nothing to fear?

Written By: - Date published: 7:44 am, December 3rd, 2014 - 93 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, accountability, john banks, Spying - Tags: , , ,

Key and his government are ramping up their powers to spy in us all, one of their justifications is that if we the people have nothing to hide we have nothing to fear.

Yesterday in Parliament John Key declined to release his communications with Cameron Slater.

From this I guess we can conclude that Key has something to hide, otherwise what could he possibly have to fear?

(Either that or the whole NTHNTF argument is bollocks, of course – and thus doesn’t apply to spying either.)

93 comments on “Nothing to hide nothing to fear?”

  1. I think we can conclude that most MPs would not agree to having all their communications with bloggers released.

    Would you be happy to release all your communications Anthony?

    [lprent: I’m tired of zapping your trackbacks to your silly posts about this site. I’m not interested in exerting the effort to remove those trackbacks in htaccess. So I auto-spammed your URL.

    If you want to comment here, then you’ll have to lose your URL in your comments. ]

    • politikiwi 1.1

      The Prime Minister has used the “nothing to fear nothing to hide” argument in support of handing beefed up surveillance powers to his deep-state masters.

      r0b has done no such thing.

      Surely even you, PG, can see why your question is ridiculous.

      • felix 1.1.1

        Oh come on politikiwi. Anthony Robins can spy on OUR phone calls and textes but he won’t release his own.

        He has turned the SIS into a political tool and it’s a good thing Pete George is here to hold him to account.

        • politikiwi 1.1.1.1

          What would we do without PG to keep the powerful honest!!

        • marty mars 1.1.1.2

          It will be great when gete peorge has the courage of his convictions and he can do that by leading the way to a greater democracy and more inclusivemiddlefolkness – release all and I do mean all of your emails and texts to politicians and associates connected with any politician pete – your prying days are over mate? – your haymasters have been shortchanged? – who has paid YOU honey and for what purpose? – why haven’t you already put your own emails, and texts out there??? – what are you trying to hide?, who are you trying to protect?, which politician is your ‘beastie’?? – I don’t expect or want them here but at least your own vanity log should put them up – nothing to hide pete then nothing to fear or are you hiding the fear in a hide made of hides with the fear still attached. Still waiting cactfhecker, still waiting…

          /satire – sorry couldn’t help myself 🙂

          • Tracey 1.1.1.2.1

            He could start by tracking down his old playmate, peter dunne, and when he find him locate his moral compass for him, or at least hold him to UFs website goal of maintaining integrity between the govt and the people.

    • felix 1.2

      I for one am appalled that Anthony has decided to push his far-reaching surveillance legislation through under urgency. Shock, I am.

      Thank you Pete for highlighting this egregious abuse of the democratic process.

    • Tracey 1.3

      Mr Key said he didnt mind if they were released. Now he says no. Your starting point is wrong.

    • Te Reo Putake 1.4

      Over on YawnNZ, PG has a post up pompously claiming that the Standard fears him because his comment didn’t instantly appear. Oddly enough, despite LP explaining the perfectly sound reason why, 8 hours later PG still hasn’t amended the post. Pete ‘the puffer fish’ George. Scary stuff alright.

      • lprent 1.4.1

        There were about 5 trackbacks that I spammed yesterday that made me decide to auto-spam him last night on one post, there were a couple more today from this obsessed git. He did his comment after I left for work at 7 and before I had coffee and scanned comments at about 10ish.

        The trackbacks and pingbacks are there for intelligent commentary on posts, the same as the comments section. This obsessed conservative clown, who has yet to write much that is intelligent about any posts on this site, shouldn’t clog up the links at the bottom of a post.

        I am considering putting him out of his misery. Clearly being able to *read* the site is something that isn’t good for him. Perhaps I should expend some time and make it harder to view his obsession.

        • rhinocrates 1.4.1.1

          It seems to me me that PG has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (OK, I’m not that kind of doctor) and one behaviour of such people is compulsively picking fights so that they can be the centre of attention even if it means always being the victim. They find it perversely empowering and gratifying and hey’ll treat every perceived slight, every ban as a kind of trophy and then head back for more, compulsively. Tr-lls want to wind other people up, but narcissists desperately crave the “hit” of having someone else pay attention to them, even if it’s abuse.

          I suggest that PG be pointed in the direction of a good therapist as arguments only feed his craving.

          • lprent 1.4.1.1.1

            That was kind of my thinking as well. But he does chew up far too much time. I’d prefer if he did his attention seeking elsewhere since he seems to seek it by simply being irritating.

            I really have no idea why someone would hang around a site in a wide open internet when they are so clearly unhappy and whiny with their chosen spot. But apparently it happens. I’d be off like a shot to find something that is closer to what I like.

            I had a look and it really isn’t going to be that hard these days (easier than when d4j was really bad with his commenting) to remove this site from PG’s purview. It is probably a useful tool to have stashed around the site for others with particularly obsessive behaviors (and generally we have pretty broad tolerance).

      • weka 1.4.2

        I don’t know, pingbacks to YawnNZ are kinda scarey.

    • oarSum 1.5

      Pete, you ask Antony if he’d be ‘happy to release all communications

      Why?

      Remember, individual civil SERVANTS don’t get to choose how they deal with ANY work related correspondence

    • Murray Rawshark 1.6

      Anthony is not a public servant. There is a huge difference. Your comments are a waste of bits.

    • r0b 1.7

      Well, I drop off the net for a day, and when I get back I find I have a spy empire at my disposal. How cool is that? Thanks folks!

  2. politikiwi 2

    John Key a hippocrate? Say it ain’t so!

  3. Chooky 3

    someone needs to write a factual book on John Key

    • greywarshark 3.1

      @ chooky
      I fear nothing good would come of that.
      And not surprising after reading this quote about our luckless little country.
      “The first european to find NZ was a Dutch sea-captain who was looking for something else … It takes its name from a province of Holland to which it does not bear the remotest likeness, and is usually regarded as the antipodes of England, but is not. Taken possession of by an English navigator, whose action was afterwards reversed by his country’s rulers, it was only annexed by the English Government which did not want it, to keep it from the French who did.”……. William Pember Reeves 1898
      http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/wmg/quotes.html

      It’s up to us maties, to fight off the foul offender who has stormed our Parliament for his own and his pirate mates’ dastardly domination.

  4. BM 4

    Bit disappointed with Andrew Little, I thought he’d be better than this.

    I can only conclude that he’s getting advice from Grant Robertson.

    • Te Reo Putake 4.1

      Well, that’s the view from Planet Key covered. Back in the real world, Key’s worst week is fast becoming Fail Fortnight.

      • BM 4.1.1

        Can’t really agree with that.
        Little looks to be heading down the same path as two fish.

        Apart from promoting Cameron Slater I don’t know what he’s trying to achieve, all I see is the same failed tactics the left has used for the last 6 years.

        • Colonial Rawshark 4.1.1.1

          No worries then eh. Sit back and relax.

          • Te Reo Putake 4.1.1.1.1

            LOL! Beat me to it!

          • BM 4.1.1.1.2

            Think about this for a second.

            Slater is about to launch Freed an online news site backed by multi millionaire Tony Letino who wants to directly compete with herald and stuff.
            According to Slater, he knows who the hacker is, who was behind it etc.

            When Freed launches, which Stater has said is very soon(I’d say February 2015), guess what the first story will be about.

            All this dirty politics/Slater promotion by the left has played directly into his hands.

            • felix 4.1.1.1.2.1

              Sounds great. But what happens when Tony wants to see the real audience numbers?

              Same thing that happened at the Truth, probably.

              • BM

                From what I understand Tony Lentino will supply funding for the first year,
                if Slater can make it work or show that it’s got promise, Lentino will keep funding it.

                Truth was already a corpse by the time Slater took over it so you can’t really blame him for it’s demise.

                • felix

                  Yeah, I can’t see why Slater should take responsibility for his actions either.

                  Do you ever go back and read your own comments after you press “submit”?

                  Give it a go, they’re frickin hilarious.

                • ghostwhowalksnz

                  His earlier aggregate blogging site “gotcha.co.nz” was a failure too.

                  Freed will just be a local knockoff of Breitbart, but instead of ‘stealing the IP’ of existing news sites, hell have to pay. That will be a challenge without a subscription .

            • Colonial Rawshark 4.1.1.1.2.2

              Well let it run the distance! Slater is going to become a media/journalistic powerhouse! More power to him!

              • mac1

                That ‘powerhouse’ has already been nationalised! Poor return on the investment though key hidden dividends might yet be revealed.

              • greywarshark

                Powerhouse. Slater. That will solve our energy requirements for the next half century.

                mac1 lol

            • joe90 4.1.1.1.2.3

              Yeah, tech gazzillionaires media ventures are winners.
              /

              It’s hard, however, to top the recent travails of First Look Media, the fervidly hyped web publishing empire funded by Silicon Valley billionaire Pierre Omidyar, as a case study in how not to launch a progressive media enterprise.

              http://inthesetimes.com/article/17403/reports_from_inside_first_look_media_suggest_that_maybe_silicon_valley_shou

            • framu 4.1.1.1.2.4

              remember what WO did to the truth?

              it will be a big disaster as his ego comes before all else

              edit: just saw you reply re: the truth – doesnt change WOs reverse midas touch

              • mac1

                framu, is that ‘truth’ with a capital or lower case ‘t’? Both apply in Slater’s case with your question “remember what WO did to the truth”? 😉

              • Tracey

                And what he continues to do to the Truth… And people like BM still hanging on his every word while deriding peolle for wanting an end to dirty politics

            • lprent 4.1.1.1.2.5

              Basically I treat any accusation from Slater as being likely to be a distortion of a lie. He has at least 7 years of proving that. I will believe what he says only if the target of his accusation admits to it.

              The only times that Slater has ever managed to get anything right is when someone else gave it to him. Usually they had to write the post as well because he is so incompetent that he usually screws up actual facts into a distorted fantasy. For instance the Brown story required a tacky but real journalist to write the story after a political ‘operative’ (for the lack of a better word) for the National like candidate’s team got Beavan Chaung to talk.

              The bulk of the accusations that Slater wrote about in his multitude of follow up posts proved to be both inaccurate, probably deliberately fraudulent, and had a reek of just Slater making stuff up (ie lying).

              Since Slater manages to fall out with virtually everyone he works with sooner rather than later, I’d be surprised if it lasts as long as the Truth gig did.

            • Tom Jackson 4.1.1.1.2.6

              Slater is the only person who really cares who the hacker is.

              BTW how’s he going to compete with Herald and Stuff? Soft pornography and stupid gossip?

      • marty mars 4.1.2

        I’m loving that serious look that little gives – good gravitas and sincere which is so important – key can’t do that look not even close.

        • Skinny 4.1.2.1

          Just shows the influence of the MSM. The way they are taking the stick to Crap Happy Key, and selectively editing Little’s comments to bolster their point. You can tell their pretty ticked off with crap happy.

          I thought Key was totally unprofessional calling Norman a muppet during question time yesterday. Looks like the pressure is getting to him.

          • vto 4.1.2.1.1

            Yep Key angrily abusing Norman as a muppet was disgusting.

            Key, again exposed as the shallow schoolboy he is. What a tosser,

            • RedLogix 4.1.2.1.1.1

              Think about JK’s background and career for a moment or two. Muppet is exactly the label Key attaches to Norman.

              It just slipped out is all.

              • greywarshark

                There was a weak attempt to cut Norman off at the knees at the end of Keys burble. Can’t remember what it was. The equivalent of ‘and he has dog poo on his shoe.’ note this IS NOT what he actually said – (for the feebleminded.)

            • Skinny 4.1.2.1.1.2

              It beggars believe from a Prime Minister to an opposition leader, or any MP for that matter.

              I kind of can relate to such an insult having copped being called a ‘Union Muppet’ by Matthew Hooton late last week while on here. Though I did chose to ignore Hooton after someone pointed out he probably been on the juice and was half pissed. Still the same an insult to one is an insult to us all as us unionist say.

              • weka

                Yeah but using alcoholic as a slur is just as fucked up as calling you a unionist muppet.

                • Skinny

                  Yes I thought that was a tad harsh too, however guess since they were coming to my defence, and I have been nailing a box of beer every second day in this hot weather, who I’m I to judge 🙂

            • mac1 4.1.2.1.1.3

              Yeah, Key has no idea of gravitas. His attempts at jokes about the Standard in question time today fell very flat and there’s not much worse than a flat jokester, except for a petulant school boy.

              And after 23 FTE years serving as a teacher at a Boys’ College, I certainly met a few of them. Blame. Slag. Deny.

          • NZ Sage 4.1.2.1.2

            Couldn’t agree more. Key’s “Muppet’ comment was crass, childish and unbecoming of a PM.

            The antics of a man under severe pressure.

            This is the begining of the end for JK.

            • marty mars 4.1.2.1.2.1

              Muppet was bad but making a joke about ebola was worse imo

              Dr Russel Norman : Why did he ensure that Cameron Slater had his phone number but did not give it to senior political reporters such as the political editor at Radio Live?

              Rt Hon JOHN KEY : Well, I gave it to the people whom I have had text conversations with in the past from the gallery. That is not all of the gallery but it is a fair number. I gave it to other people who are in the social media. I can say I did not give it to Kim Dotcom, as, I am sure, that member probably has Mr Dotcom in his mobile phone from the time he went up there for lunch. That was the time when his high horse he parked up there got Ebola.

              http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/pb/business/qoa/51HansQ_20141202_00000002/2-prime-minister%E2%80%94communications-with-press-gallery

              • Murray Rawshark

                That is just incredibly lame. Did anyone laugh apart from his brain damaged sycophants?

    • left for deadshark 4.2

      That must mean Andrew Little is on the right track,Thanks BM.

    • This is my take on it: About those changes in our laws to accommodate warrantless spying. Here is what I think about Labour supporting John Key’s Stasi laws: Open Letter to Andrew Little And Labour

      • ianmac 4.3.1

        Yes. The proverbial thin end of the wedge. Agree with you tavellerev.

      • Chch_chiquita 4.3.2

        Excellent words. Thank you!
        Too many people take their freedom for granted. Scary.

      • Sans Cle 4.3.3

        Great blog Travellerev

      • felix 4.3.4

        Thank you Ev.

        It doesn’t matter if it’s only 24 hours or 48 hours. If you so much as permit the police to spy on citizens for one minute without a third party making sure that the law and privacy guarantees are met you can rest assured that the political powers that be will use that to instil fear and intimidation in their citizenry.

        Any Labour MPs here? You need to read the whole thing.

      • vto 4.3.5

        True ttravellerev, well done.

        Most telling is our lack of experience in these things – how can we know when we have never experienced such before? On top of our passiveness ignorance as you so truthfully put it ….. yeah, neh, she’ll be right eh …….

      • Beatie 4.3.6

        Your average Joe Kiwi has no idea what this could lead to. In 1982, I was working for Topdeck Travel on their month long camping trips to the former USSR and Eastern Europe. I did four trips. It would take 6 hours to go through the USSR border as everything was searched. The bus was put over a pit so they could get underneath it. They would also read diaries. On one trip we had Chinese passengers, and when we left the country through the USSR/Romanian border there was someone there who could read Chinese. The locals were to scared to talk to us, and our intourist guide was also a KGB agent. Paranoia was rife, especially in Romania, East Germany and Czechoslovakia. I bet the citizens of those countries never thought they would end up in that horrible situation.

      • TONY T 4.3.7

        YEs I can’t get my head around Labour supporting this Bill in any way shape or form. Given we know that Key abuses the spies as his personal rotties already, my only quesion is ; Why.Would.You ???
        Still wondering who the other 87 people who were illegally spied on along with Dot Com are. Key’s enemies, rivals, and people he’d like to blackmail, perhaps?

        • gsays 4.3.7.1

          tony t, to help you understand labour supporting the bill.
          your question could read why? would you?

      • Mike 4.3.8

        Agree with every thing you say, and it’s good to know that I’m not alone, and that there are other people who recognise that John Key is a Psychopath.

    • Tracey 4.4

      Well, he is better than john key and you show no signs of being disappointed by him.

  5. Chooky 5

    travellerev +100 ….thankyou!…you speak from experience…and I have met East Germans who also speak from this experience….New Zealanders do NOT have this experience or knowledge

    I particularly liked this bit in your letter to Andrew Little and the Labour Party:

    ….”It doesn’t matter if it’s only 24 hours or 48 hours. If you so much as permit the police to spy on citizens for one minute without a third party making sure that the law and privacy guarantees are met you can rest assured that the political powers that be will use that to instil fear and intimidation in their citizenry.

    They will use it to silence their political opponents and to silence people who dissent and speak out their opposition. They will use it to plant evidence on people they want to disgrace or arrest and they will use it to steal from and destroy people who oppose them”……

  6. aaron 6

    Does anyone know if there is a body of research about how other populations have fought back against oppressive security states?

    Whatever happens next I imagine most of these changes are going to stay with us for a while and that not enough people are going to fight it through the usual democratic mechanisms. This means a proper strategy needs to be developed to deal with it – by which I mean; not whining about how stupid or dozy the NZ population is and actually working out how to communicate effectively with them.

    • Colonial Rawshark 6.1

      Chris Hedges does it brilliantly

      “Dissent is criminalised, truth is hidden…”

      • travellerev 6.1.1

        Chris Hedges is one of my heroes!

        • greywarshark 6.1.1.1

          I’ve just listened to some Chris Hedges. I am way behind with the actual doings of the Obama regime. Amazing chicanery. This Hedges is a giant though in appearance a small stalwart man.

          He talks about the length of time – since 1908 when what became the FBI was set up. Communism was such a great tool to bludgeon everybody with. And to practice ones false equivalence against (they did it first.) And he also refers to ceaseless war, every reaction opening the way to an escalation, sort of thing.
          It made me think of Israel’s approach to establishing their own peaceful state.
          Lots to think about. We live in interesting times.

      • Chooky 6.1.2

        CR +100 ……Wow thanks for that!

        First time I have got to know Chris Hedges existed …American journalist , writer , foreign correspondent, activist , humanitarian ,Presbyterian Minister….

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges

        ( another hero like Robert Fisk!)

        All people who support this surveillance BILL should watch this before voting !

    • greywarshark 6.2

      @ aaron
      Chris Hedges says in link above that J Edgar Hoover went and I think he said 1908-1972 though not sure now. But the surveillance state started back along time ago in USA and now gathers momentum. So once in it takes a lifetime to reduce it even, this spying and oppressing and hating dissent or questioning.

  7. Rolf 7

    Lest we forget, the ”nothing to hide – nothing to fear” was a Nazi slogan minted as propaganda. We know what happened there. It raises very, very serious questions about Key and his intentions.

    • Chooky 7.1

      +100 …and that utube speech by Chris Hedges confirms this!

      I hope Andrew Little watches it!

    • Skinny 7.2

      The tide turns when media hacks feel they have been played. I think that time has finally come. Off comes the Teflon veneer for crap happy Key.

      The question is will he stick it out? or will he be rolled by Joyce or Brownlee, both whom rate their chances of becoming PM.

      • Jones 7.2.1

        For someone like Key who “doesn’t like to lose”, the odds on him lasting the full term are getting shorter. He will not contest an election if it’s looking like he’s not going to win.

        Throw in the global economy on the brink again with a potential domino effect of uncontrollable consequences as a result of the drop in commodity prices like oil and milk… the financial chickens are coming home to roost. He’s either going to double down as Muldoon 2.0 or run away… like a financial chicken.

  8. aerobubble 8

    Key admits Ede was outside of his office, yet wasnt Ede talking with Tucker? Does that mean he outsourced his duty as intelligence minister?

  9. Papa Tuanuku 9

    where the hell is the article on Labour voting to take away our human rights and privacy right?

  10. MrSmith 10

    The slow creep of the surveillance state continues, even though we have never been safer, crime sats at a 29 year low in NZ, yet the New Zealand Police, that are clearly in the Governments pocket, seen recently with their vigorous investigations whenever the PM is embarrassed, Nicky Hager and Bradley Ambrose being prime examples.

    The SIS now given more powers, yet as we have seen they are not above getting politicly involved in smearing the Governments political opponents, or are these powers all about preparing for the backlash over our coming involvement in Iraq and be used to preempt any civil disobedience.

  11. Wow, thank you for your kind words about the open letter to Andrew Little. Times have changed and I see a lot more people looking at our politicians with a lot more skepticism. I think that is a good thing. Our governments should be afraid of us instead of us being afraid of them.

  12. RedBaronCV 12

    I would far rather labour hadn’t voted for the bill.
    But why didn’t they go for something in return – oversight of the SIS and GSB by a small parliamentary committee of the PM, leader of the opposition and one other from the minor parties. Nothing to fear so nothing to hide from a small committee of senior politicians. Might help to keep them under control.

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    5 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    5 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    5 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    7 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    7 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    7 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    1 week ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    2 weeks ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

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