Significant events in New Zealand History – South African Rugby Tour 1981
Over the last few weeks we have been catching snippets of news replays and interviews with various high profile people who were around in 1981 (including Kathryn Ryan’s interview with Kumi Naidoo) and simply cannot believe Joky Hen’s stated detachment from and disinterest in issues at the time – particularly given he was apparently at University – where issues were in your face!
Yep. I am John Key’s age and was at University at the same time although at Auckland. I can tell you what I was doing during most of the games and which protests I attended (almost all).
There are two possibilities for Key’s statement:
1. He is suffering major medical problems with his memory,
2. He is lying.
Has the English language changed overnight? I was proposing two possibilities to explain a phenomenon and you are claiming that I maintained one was true?
Tell me SS do you get paid by CT per post here or do you get a bonus for the especially inane ones?
SS,
I was living in Holland at the time (being Dutch and all) and I remember what I was thinking about NZ and the South African Rugby tour! That’s how big it was. For John not to remember is incomprehensible!
SS/Pete, it’s very simple. It stretches the imagination somewhat that a man of Key’s age has trouble remembering his stance on the events of the 1981 Springbok Tour. Even I can remember it and I was three and a half at the same time and all it looked like to me was a bunch of big blue blokes with moustaches hitting people on the telly. So I think it’s safe to conclude that Jonkey is obfuscating.
As for a serious medical problem with his memory, do you really have that flimsy a grasp of basic sarcasm or are you intentionally trying to clog up yet another thread with inane concern trolling?
Good trolling, SS – besides the obvious parallels regarding the RWC and Fiji, or indeed a lack of concern about free trade with nations that practise child or slave labour, the fact is that Key’s lack of memmory sums him up nicely.
He would rather claim senility than admit to having an actual opinion about some of the most notable events in NZ’s recent history.
It is inconceivable that anyone of reasonably sound mind that was around in ’81 does not recall what their opinion on the tour was, especially whilst attending a hothouse of ideas and events such as universities were in that pre ‘bums on seats’ era.
It is conceivable 30 years later though that someone i.e. Shonkey, might not want to publicly express that opinion in light of todays views on racism etc. and risk the smile and wave narrative. What a slippery character.
Yeah this is one that has not gone away for Key, possibly because there are still thousands of us left that personally experienced the tour. Like Micky I spent weeks at meetings, marches and police stations that winter, and know that it is just NOT possible even for those on the sidelines to not have had an opinion.
Really who cares if Shonkey had some weasel position on it, the issue is the credibility of the PM of this country.
Saw this faux pas? The ass finds it difficult to tell the difference. “Confused” was quite a polite euphemism for fkd up.
“A Government spokesperson says the prime minister confused advice about Nakarawa not being on the team list, with the list of people who are banned from travel here, including serving army officers.”
Sorry to repeat myself M/S but as I have said on Standard before ,Key seems to have a drink problem. All the symtons are there .Loss of memory, the stupid grinning and hand flaping plus the flounting around and acting the fool. Just take note off the times he photographed with a drink in his hand, Helen always had fruit juice thats why she was so articulate , not like the buffon we are burdened with now.
Would votes be gained for him and his image enhanced by stating that he was anti-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged by stating he was anti-tour? Well, his image would be damaged in the eyes of a percentage of national voters.
Would votes be gained and his image enhanced if he stated he was pro-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged if he stated he was pro-tour? Well, his image would definately be damaged.
Let’s face it. He wasn’t anti-tour. He has indicated this quite strongly.
But if he was to state that overtly, then how would he explain his support of government policy towards Fiji?
Meanwhile, I’m willing to believe that he was essentially disinterested…neither pro nor anti…out the loop…too wrapped up in his own $$$ concerns to have the tour play a role as a ‘marker’ for memory.
And again, he can’t state that for obvious reasons of image.
So his only option, insofar as he relies on image to translate into votes is avoidance
Not sure that it’s about votes to be honest Bill. I reckon it’s about self image pure and simple.
He hates to be on the ‘wrong’ side of things, so ‘forgets’, or avoids confronting, examples of that being the case.
Other examples include not showing up for Melissa Lee on by-election night; refusing to state why Worth was forced out of parliament; his comments on mine safety. etc.
Much of his rhetorical wrigglyness is for votes, and much of it seems to be based on not really being on top of shit, but some of it, to my eyes at least, looks like cognitive dissonance working its magic.
Its simply passing on the lessons mate, to a new generation which must do the fighting now. Anyways, haven’t you ever had a nice reminisce with old fight buddies over a few beers 🙂
Just take a little time out and listen to the radionz link posted at the top of this thread and you will, perhaps, understand just how important the events around 1981 were to the struggle within South Africa.
Not a victory for New Zealanders, but a major contribution towards a victory over oppressed peoples.
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
What it also exposes, of course, is the shallowness of the subsequent “apologies” from the RFU and many of its ardent supporters here in New Zealand. Hope you were too young to be involved in 1981, otherwise your comments speak volumes about you…
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude that would have pleased the middle-class and middle-aged liberals
And as for change just exactly how much better off is South Africa now?
@ Nat Brown Noser 73: South Africans still have some chance at least to sort their society out via the ballot box which was not possible under the Apartheid system.
The SA democratic change unfortunately occured during the height of Reaganism and Thatcherism which made it majorly harder.
Have to agree there. No sooner than Mandela was let out he embraced neo-liberalism and privatisaton all the way.
Yes, He was a great man who never lost hope and evenutally achieived his aim, but the neo-liberalism in my mind will always seem like an asterisk to me.
Millsy,
a reading of the original ANC Freedom Charter shows clearly that it was a national liberation movement, not necessarily an anti captialist or anti US corporate movement. That is why a number of people in the NZ anti apartheid and local anti racist movement in 1981 suggested looking at the programme of the PAC (Pan African Congress) and other left groups.
The poor buggers assumed fledgeling parliamentary democracy at the worst of times when neo liberalism was at it’s height.
“No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude….”
Let’s break this down:
“No, I appreciate his honesty “- ….”I can’t remember” is not an honest answer, he’s not old enough to begin losing his memory yet, it’s an evasive answer.
“as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude”- he did. and he does, over and over and over again.
Going against the grain slightly, I’m picking that apartheid would have eventually come to an end, tour or not. Depriving over 70 percent of the population of political representation and civil rights was unsustainable.
The Evening Standard yesterday interviewed Chris Bryant about his tireless efforts to investigate phone-hacking. This, understandably, annoyed Rebekah Brooks (nee Wade). Here’s Bryant’s version of his last meeting with Rupert Murdoch’s favourite seemingly Teflon-coated, flame-haired executive:
“She came up to me and said, ‘Oh, Mr Bryant, it’s after dark — shouldn’t you be on Clapham Common?”
“At which point Ross Kemp [the ex-EastEnders actor and her then husband] said, ‘Shut up, you homophobic cow’.”
Whether or not Kemp continued with “Leave it, you slag. He’s not worth it,” Bryant does not say.
I just found back some interesting links and thought to put them here for those of you curious about what really happened on 9/11 and how come the airspace was unprotected for more than 1.5 hours.
This is a video of Former Sen. Mark Dayton who wants to know why and how it was possible nobody was fired for the fact that the US airspace was unprotected for such a long time and he asks about the lies of the FAA and NORAD during 4 separate hearings.
This is a link to a radio presentation made by Robin Hordon who is a former FAA air traffic controller and core member of pilots for 911 truth who spells out the 50 year old protocol for dealing with in flight emergencies and hijackings which was violated four times that day.
Is Key becoming another arrogant politician? He said changing the Parliamentary oath of allegiance is not something he’s considered so it is not likely to change any time soon.
He will ignore the people and make his own decision? This is very poor from him, one of his weaknesses. He’s done this before, including jumping to rule out CGT.
He’s in danger of becoming just another politician too obsessed with his own opinion and power.
Further on Christchurch and the thinking on its progress and difficulties. On Chris Laidlaw this morning Radionz see below. This guy Regan Potangaroa is very clear headed, looking for a real understanding of what is needed, and sounds like a problem solver with good human values. A person to respect and listen out for when he makes comment. Also this group Engineers without Borders group sounds as if they are practical thinkers with minds open to finding solutions that work for people.
10:06 Regan Potangaroa – Engineering Change
For nearly 15 years, Dr Potangaroa has been involved in humanitarian aid and post disaster work in places such as Haiti, Sudan, Pakistan and Indonesia. More recently he has been working in Christchurch and he talks to Chris about humanitarian engineering – applying engineering principles directly to helping people hit by poverty and disaster, by providing clean drinking water, roads and houses. He also has a few things to say about building a better, fairer Christchurch, and taking care of the poorer parts of town where the most vulnerable people live.
Dr Regan Potangaroa is an Associate Professor at the School of Architecture at Unitec Auckland. He is attending this weekend’s Engineers without Borders NZ conference at Auckland University.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker. It is an illustration of why it is important to have informed people that aren’t in the NZ buddy loop so we can get unbiased views to help us evaluate how things are going on down here in Aotearoa.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker.
This is the spurious idea of “balance”. We saw it last week with Jim Mora asserting that he doesn’t want to “censor” the views of anyone—even a violent and discredited organisation like Garth McVicar’s Sensible Sentencing Trust.
But right at the end of the programme today, Laidlaw actually did something far more craven than putting in a good word for Mayor Bob. He read a ridiculous e-mail from someone who was affronted by the popular and media backlash against the saintly Rupert Murdoch. “What about Nicky Hager? He hacked into the National Party’s computers….”
Now, Chris Laidlaw is not stupid. He knows perfectly well that Hager did no such thing, and that he was leaked the information from a contact in Bill English’s officethe National Party. The police found that there was no evidence at all of computer-hacking. Other than witless dupes like the fellow who sent Laidlaw that e-mail, the only people who say there was hacking are John Key and Don Brash, both of them notorious liars and both of them outed in Hager’s book for their secret deals with the Brethren.
Yet Laidlaw still read out that letter. Once again, in case you’re horrified and mystified, it’s called “balance”.
It was the smiling assassin who had the most to gain he would have had to wait years to get another chance by then his good looks would be gone get it right.
This thing about press freedoms and competition and unfettered debate is what we hear argued for when talking about the dangers of government regulation.
So what happens – one megalomaniac tries to buy up all the newspapers and achieve a monopoly.
Then the press freedom is used to print whatever they want in a way that appeals to the most punters, no matter how it injures the subject and using whatever sleazy and unlawful means as with the phone hacking.
‘Unfettered debate’ has to be carried on under the shadow of this sort of power and so some things are left unsaid if unwanted by the now media empire.
The editors can be said to be completely free to publish without control from above, if the right person is appointed, at the right price. Then the puppet strings can be completely unnecessary or unseen.
And then there is the peculiar result of this mendacious media adopting a witch-hunting puritanical stance on sexual matters with an entirely salacious and voyeuristic zeal. They rightly say they are encouraged to do so by a public envious of those better endowed at all levels, who delight in the second-hand thrill of the ‘revelations’. When questioned one of the newspaper operatives questioned by Hugh Grant about this replied that he should have kept his in his pants. A lot of sniggers from behind. Of course the point that people’s private life should remain so, unless they do it in the street (or breach the noise controls) was bypassed in that discussion. (I think I heard the comment on today’s Mediawatch which can be played again and is also repeated at night).
It took Rupert Murdoch only three and a half years to get there, starting with the moment he acquired the paper from the dysfunctional Bancroft family in December 2007, a purchase that was completed after he vowed to protect The Journal’s editorial integrity and agreed to a (toothless) board that was supposed to make sure he kept that promise.
Fat chance of that. Within five months, Murdoch had fired the editor and installed his close friend Robert Thomson, fresh from a stint Fox-ifying The Times of London. The new publisher was Leslie Hinton, former boss of the division that published Murdoch’s British newspapers, including The News of the World.
With 64 million of these apartments sitting empty, too expensive for most Chinese to rent – artificially inflated prices keep “value” up high, which is also helpful on the spreadsheets – they’ve created the largest property bubble in history. The tiger’s paper is wearing thin.
There’s a you tube video at the link that shows these empty cities.
NB those empty cities are going to come in damn handy in 10-15 years time. I’m also betting that they are all being maintained, grass cut and windows cleaned, even as they are essentially deserted.
Presenting a coherent economic policy which may or may not impress those in the know but may not work on the general population.
The numbers are coarse but it seems Labour lost 7, and the Greens gained 5.
Not a good result but Labour/Green are still in it and need to raise their support.
And it is too early to be taken as evidence that the population may not like the CGT. These sorts of policies need to percolate through and the effects may take a while to appear.
Who gives a fuck? Off shore events with PIIGS and Tea Parties are going to send the world economy bust before thhe election, even if Shonkers wins he will be in the hot seat (plus his cash holdings will go up in flames as the banks fail).
millsy, it’s not Labour’s fault that Joe and Mary Bloggs are as thick as two short planks. Nor is it their fault J&M are politically ignorant, and take 6 months to figure out what the politically savvy can recognise in 24 hrs. My biggest fear is that Labour have left it too late to reveal their tax policies. I’m not convinced J&M will have it sorted by Nov. 26.
Hoping like hell that I’m wrong!
Ok, what I’m trying to say is a less than diplomatic version of ms at 6:32pm.
Hell, they probably havn’t worked out what CGT stands for yet. 😀
Guyon Espiner’s party political broadcast on behalf of National on Thursday night TVNZ news must have helped this poll.
He said at the end of his report on Labour’s CGT announcement (where until then he had given the report in a reasonably soothing, unbiased way) that it had flaws and it would not be enough to woo national/swing voters away from national and that even some Labour voters would be lost because of it.
I rang to complain of his biased presentation, and said that I hoped this was not the beginning of the bias that I noticed from Espiner last election, where I considered that Espiner and his acolytes at TVNZ working wiith John Key and Rodney Hide were almost the sole reason there was a national victory in 2008.
I think such MSM spinners (or should I say ‘espinners’) should be outed and put in “dock’ or Murkdoch’ on the Standard everytime we see them spin for their preferred party during this election. A journalists ‘wall of shame’ where they fail to report the facts in a professionally ethical, fair,unbiased, objective manner, as they should.
It is remarkable that this poll reflects Guyon Espiner’s very ‘prophecy’. What a capable political reporter he is!?!
PS From election 08 coverage recognised the following as Nact Supporters ( I was not in the ‘know’ before): C&G Espiner, Duncan Garner and his side kick Scott somebody and possibly Tsai Tiffin, Barry Soper, Heather du Plessis Allen ,Therese Arseneau, Paul Holmes, Clare Trevett and most reporters at the Herald, particularly the Gallery. Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday. Although not a journalist, but now has a ‘column’ in the Herald, “philanthropist”Owen Glenn (mind you his actoid views do not lie well with said description of him).
I don’t mind comment or opinion when I know accurately what people stand for, but when they abuse what should be a neutral position to spin their own views, thereby subtly influencing public opinion, then it becomes propaganda and should be stamped out.
Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday.
Yes, I spotted that too seeker. In fact it’s happened several times in recent weeks. I spend more time at TV3 news because of it. TV3’s coverage on Thursday evening was fairer and more balanced than TV1. I commented to that effect here on Friday.
Btw, it’s far better to write a formal letter of complaint. Phone calls don’t even reach the right people. They’re just ignored. Worked in TV many years ago and that’s what used to happen. It won’t have changed.
Thanks Ann .I spotted your comment on Friday on Red Alert and was so pleased that someone had done just what you did. I just didn’t have time then. This type of thing really needs to be outed if we are not to be manipulated by unprofessional journalists and corporations – as Britain was for over 30years.
Trouble is, the political parties seem to think they have to court the media instead of standing up to them. I was glad to see Cunliffe put Espinor in his place this morning. Goff is inclined to be too polite with him.
The reality is, as pointed out on the Q&A – Kiwi workers will be looking at being up to 100 bucks a week off better under labour. With min wage, tax free zone, gst exemption off fruit and veg. The fact that the f*king stupid general public still dont get that John Key is selling their future, and their childrens future despite it being hammered out to them. In our household, its not through lack of sound and great labour policy, hate to say, but its Phil Goff. He is now too academic now to reach out to the working class – they arent listening. Cunliffe destroyed Espinar today – we hardly ever see politicians who have interviewers look as worried as that. He is RAZOR sharp, but warm and accessible…
Ok so Steven Joyce has “put Labour’s numbers through the Treasury calculator” and the REAL numbers show that (as reported by Farrar)
Labour’s package will result in less tax revenue until 2024! And then when you take account of the interest on the extra borrowing, it will result in an extra $15b of borrowing between now and 2025.”
Labours own numbers shower that the package became neutral in 7 years, the Nats claim its more like 12 years.
Labour did “forget” to add in intrest costs and did “assume” they could magically save $300 mil/yr in avoidance when the oppisite is logical.
10 years is propably close to the truth.
So Steven Joyce is using Govt depts for his own political ends pity they haven,t done the figures on the loss of income from asset sales as well . When you have an organization like treasury putting out stupid figures saying their are going to be a 170,000 new jobs in three years.You know their just making up stories for their neo liberal hero idols . The facts and the history don,t support this.National has been barely able to grow 30,000 new sustained jobs in 22years in govt since 1976 so nothing changes except that they have better spin doctors and a more subservant media which Joyce uses his connections with the radio works to push key the nice guy for free at every opportunity.
He could be a potential Labour voter micky, but no doubt you’ll jump to a conclusion and send him/her packing if you can. Can’t risk someone sneaking on board.
No, they will keep Goff – the plan was always to sacrifice him at this election. No matter how bad it gets they will keep him until after the election. It always takes a long time to rebuild after a party that has been controlled by a very dominant figure that polarised people, such as Muldoon or Clark – look how long it took for National to get themselves back into fully functional form following Muldoon’s demise, despite the incompetence of Labour during the 80s – it will be the same for Labour.
Ha – it might surprise you to know that I consider Brash an idiot – a Polite idiot tho’, as opposed to Mrs Harawira’s little boy who is simply a Rude idiot.
But my point is solid regarding Goff – he is just (and justly) cannon fodder while Cunliffe and Little complete their backroom manoueveurs.
Meh more recycled talking points. Meanwhile, Key is already one foot out the door, English has to be sweet talked to give the top position over to Joyce and he won’t like that one bit.
I thought someone like you would have said lunch time. But as they say a week in politics is a long time if the economy keeps dragging along the bottom Europe or the US crashes and or the All Blacks loose.Maybe a Murdoch moment happens here don,t count your chooks before they hatch they might just come home to roost just like a large Deb,t .Aye happy feet!
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You're broken down and tiredOf living life on a merry go roundAnd you can't find the fighterBut I see it in you so we gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsWe gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsAnd I'll rise upI'll rise like the dayI'll rise upI'll rise unafraidI'll rise upAnd I'll ...
There’s been a change in Myers Park. Down the steps from St. Kevin’s Arcade, past the grassy slopes, the children’s playground, the benches and that goat statue, there has been a transformation. The underpass for Mayoral Drive has gone from a barren, grey, concrete tunnel, to a place that thrums ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections Global society may have finally slammed on the brakes for climate-warming pollution released by human fossil fuel combustion. According to the Carbon Monitor Project, the total global climate pollution released between February and May 2024 declined slightly from the amount released during the same ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Tuesday, July 23 are:Deep Dive: Penlink: where tolling rhetoric meets reality BusinessDesk-$$$’sOliver LewisScoop:Te Pūkenga plans for regional polytechs leak out ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Tuesday, July 23, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Health: Shane Reti announcedthe Board of Te Whatu Ora-Health New Zealand was being replaced with Commissioner Lester Levy ...
Health NZ warned the Government at the end of March that it was running over Budget. But the reasons it gave were very different to those offered by the Prime Minister yesterday. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon blamed the “botched merger” of the 20 District Health Boards (DHBs) to create Health ...
Long ReadKey Summary: Although National increased the health budget by $1.4 billion in May, they used an old funding model to project health system costs, and never bothered to update their pre-election numbers. They were told during the Health Select Committees earlier in the year their budget amount was deficient, ...
As a momentous, historic weekend in US politics unfolded, analysts and commentators grasped for precedents and comparisons to help explain the significance and power of the choice Joe Biden had made. The 46th president had swept the Democratic party’s primaries but just over 100 days from the election had chosen ...
TL;DR: I’m casting around for new ideas and ways of thinking about Aotearoa’s political economy to find a few solutions to our cascading and self-reinforcing housing, poverty and climate crises.Associate Professor runs an online masters degree in the economics of sustainability at Torrens University in Australia and is organising ...
The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on National's Local Government (Water Services Preliminary Arrangements) Bill. The bill sets up water for privatisation, and was introduced under urgency, then rammed through select committee with no time even for local councils to make a proper submission. Naturally, national's select committee ...
Some years ago, I bought a book at Dunedin’s Regent Booksale for $1.50. As one does. Vandrad the Viking (1898), by J. Storer Clouston, is an obscure book these days – I cannot find a proper online review – but soon it was sitting on my shelf, gathering dust alongside ...
History is not on the side of the centre-left, when Democratic presidents fall behind in the polls and choose not to run for re-election. On both previous occasions in the past 75 years (Harry Truman in 1952, Lyndon Johnson in 1968) the Democrats proceeded to then lose the White House ...
This is a free articleCoverageThis morning, US President Joe Biden announced his withdrawal from the Presidential race. And that is genuinely newsworthy. Thanks for your service, President Biden, and all the best to you and yours.However, the media in New Zealand, particularly the 1News nightly bulletin, has been breathlessly covering ...
A homeless person’s camp beside a blocked-off slipped damage walkway in Freeman’s Bay: we are chasing our tail on our worsening and inter-related housing, poverty and climate crises. Photo: Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
What has happened to it all?Crazy, some'd sayWhere is the life that I recognise?(Gone away)But I won't cry for yesterdayThere's an ordinary worldSomehow I have to findAnd as I try to make my wayTo the ordinary worldYesterday morning began as many others - what to write about today? I began ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Monday, July 22 are:Today’s Must Read: Father and son live in a tent, and have done for four years, in a million ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
A listing of 32 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, July 14, 2024 thru Sat, July 20, 2024. Story of the week As reflected by preponderance of coverage, our Story of the Week is Project 2025. Until now traveling ...
This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Orderimage, ...
Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers last night features co-hosts and talking with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent talking about the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s release of its first Emissions Reduction Plan;University of Otago Foreign Relations Professor and special guest Dr Karin von ...
Open access notablesImproving global temperature datasets to better account for non-uniform warming, Calvert, Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society:To better account for spatial non-uniform trends in warming, a new GITD [global instrumental temperature dataset] was created that used maximum likelihood estimation (MLE) to combine the land surface ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
Celebrating our quadrennial opportunity to become experts in a bunch of sports we never normally watch.The games of the XXXIII Olympiad are upon us. Paris will host this year’s showcase of sporting and athletic prowess, which means some late-night and early-morning viewing for us in Aotearoa.But what sports ...
The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
Get to know Babushka, our latest Dog of the Month. This feature was offered as a reward during our What’s Eating Aotearoa PledgeMe campaign. Thank you to Babu’s humans, Jo and Isabel, for their support. Dog name: Babushka (Babu for short) Age: 2Breed: Border Collie X poodleIf rescued, ...
Pacific Media Watch A Lebanese photojournalist who was severely wounded during an Israeli air strike in south Lebanon carried the Olympic torch in Paris this week in honour of her peers who have been wounded and killed in the field — especially in Gaza and Lebanon. Christina Assi of Agence ...
The first report in a five-part web series focused on the 15th Triennial Conference of Pacific Women taking place in the Marshall Islands this week.SPECIAL REPORT:By Netani Rika in Majuro Women continue to fight for justice 70 years after the first nuclear tests by the United States caused ...
Christopher Luxon has joined with Australia and Canada's leaders in voicing support for US President Joe Biden's ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The 2022 election brought the “teal wave” into parliament. The next election will test whether teals, who occupy what were Liberal seats, and other independents can maintain their momentum. Joining us on the Podcast ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Musgrave, Senior lecturer in Pharmacology, University of Adelaide Pixavri/Shutterstock A major Federal Court class action has been dismissed this week after Justice Michael Lee ruled there was not enough evidence to prove the weedkiller Roundup causes cancer. Plaintiff Kelvin ...
In The Week in Politics: politicians have to decide what to do about child abuse, Health NZ is booked in for major surgery and Darleen Tana returns. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Corbould, Associate Professor, Contemporary Histories Research Group, Deakin University Mainstream media are surprisingly muted at the prospect of the world’s most powerful nation being led for the first time by a woman – specifically a woman of colour, Vice President Kamala ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rebecca Bennett, PhD Student, Associate Research Fellow, Deakin University Last week, a drone delivery company called Wing (owned by Google’s parent company, Alphabet) started operating in Melbourne. Some 250,000 residents in parts of the city’s eastern suburbs can now order food from ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonathan Foo, Lecturer, Physiotherapy, Monash University pikselstock/Shutterstock In the next 40 years in Australia, it’s predicted the number of Australians aged 65 and over will more than double, while the number of people aged 85 and over will more than triple. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katrina Grant, Research Associate, Power Institute for Arts and Visual Culture, University of Sydney Jonas Åkerström’s 1790 work, Session of the Accademia dell’Arcadia on August 17 1788.Nationalmuseum/Cecilia Heisser Ever wondered whether you’d have a better chance at winning an Olympic gold ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexandra Jones, Program Lead, Food Governance, George Institute for Global Health wavebreakmedia/Shutterstock On Thursday, Australian and New Zealand food ministers at state, federal and national levels met to thrash out what’s next for health star ratings on packaged foods. Now, after ...
The Abuse in Care report found many Pacific survivors lost their connections to their culture and language, resulting in trauma that has been carried from generation to generation. ...
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Significant events in New Zealand History – South African Rugby Tour 1981
Over the last few weeks we have been catching snippets of news replays and interviews with various high profile people who were around in 1981 (including Kathryn Ryan’s interview with Kumi Naidoo) and simply cannot believe Joky Hen’s stated detachment from and disinterest in issues at the time – particularly given he was apparently at University – where issues were in your face!
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2493317/feature-guest-kumi-naidoo.asx
Yep. I am John Key’s age and was at University at the same time although at Auckland. I can tell you what I was doing during most of the games and which protests I attended (almost all).
There are two possibilities for Key’s statement:
1. He is suffering major medical problems with his memory,
2. He is lying.
Links please to back up your claims.
To back up what??
You’ve claimed “He is suffering major medical problems with his memory,”
You must have some evidence to support a major accusation like that or you wouldn’t have made a public statement.
Read my comment SS. I listed it as a possible explanation, the other one being that Key is telling fibs.
So you have absolutely nothing to support your option 1?
SS
None whatsoever. For me I think option 2 is the likely explanation, that is Key is fibbing.
Remarkable. Just making things up.
Has the English language changed overnight? I was proposing two possibilities to explain a phenomenon and you are claiming that I maintained one was true?
Tell me SS do you get paid by CT per post here or do you get a bonus for the especially inane ones?
SS,
I was living in Holland at the time (being Dutch and all) and I remember what I was thinking about NZ and the South African Rugby tour! That’s how big it was. For John not to remember is incomprehensible!
SS/Pete, it’s very simple. It stretches the imagination somewhat that a man of Key’s age has trouble remembering his stance on the events of the 1981 Springbok Tour. Even I can remember it and I was three and a half at the same time and all it looked like to me was a bunch of big blue blokes with moustaches hitting people on the telly. So I think it’s safe to conclude that Jonkey is obfuscating.
As for a serious medical problem with his memory, do you really have that flimsy a grasp of basic sarcasm or are you intentionally trying to clog up yet another thread with inane concern trolling?
Concern trolling – concerns about something that happened thirty years ago that has no relevance now?
Good trolling, SS – besides the obvious parallels regarding the RWC and Fiji, or indeed a lack of concern about free trade with nations that practise child or slave labour, the fact is that Key’s lack of memmory sums him up nicely.
He would rather claim senility than admit to having an actual opinion about some of the most notable events in NZ’s recent history.
We will get the economy to grow at 4%
It is inconceivable that anyone of reasonably sound mind that was around in ’81 does not recall what their opinion on the tour was, especially whilst attending a hothouse of ideas and events such as universities were in that pre ‘bums on seats’ era.
It is conceivable 30 years later though that someone i.e. Shonkey, might not want to publicly express that opinion in light of todays views on racism etc. and risk the smile and wave narrative. What a slippery character.
Hmm, what’s he hiding?
Yeah this is one that has not gone away for Key, possibly because there are still thousands of us left that personally experienced the tour. Like Micky I spent weeks at meetings, marches and police stations that winter, and know that it is just NOT possible even for those on the sidelines to not have had an opinion.
Really who cares if Shonkey had some weasel position on it, the issue is the credibility of the PM of this country.
TM
It is possible for someone not to have an opinion if the person on the ‘sidelines’ is a narcissist. Such as is John (me) K(me)y.
especially whilst attending a hothouse of ideas and events such as universities were in that pre ‘bums on seats’ era.
I doubt that Key was a thinker and debater of any seriousness when he was a student. If he was, he’s certainly changed his habits now.
To judge from his public utterances on international affairs, he reads little and thinks less.
Saw this faux pas? The ass finds it difficult to tell the difference. “Confused” was quite a polite euphemism for fkd up.
“A Government spokesperson says the prime minister confused advice about Nakarawa not being on the team list, with the list of people who are banned from travel here, including serving army officers.”
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/80184/no-softening-of-nz-policy-mccully
NO new taxes read my lips
3 He didn’t care and had other more pressing things to think about – his own advancement.
Squirrel – This might help the discussion
Sorry to repeat myself M/S but as I have said on Standard before ,Key seems to have a drink problem. All the symtons are there .Loss of memory, the stupid grinning and hand flaping plus the flounting around and acting the fool. Just take note off the times he photographed with a drink in his hand, Helen always had fruit juice thats why she was so articulate , not like the buffon we are burdened with now.
Would votes be gained for him and his image enhanced by stating that he was anti-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged by stating he was anti-tour? Well, his image would be damaged in the eyes of a percentage of national voters.
Would votes be gained and his image enhanced if he stated he was pro-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged if he stated he was pro-tour? Well, his image would definately be damaged.
Let’s face it. He wasn’t anti-tour. He has indicated this quite strongly.
But if he was to state that overtly, then how would he explain his support of government policy towards Fiji?
Meanwhile, I’m willing to believe that he was essentially disinterested…neither pro nor anti…out the loop…too wrapped up in his own $$$ concerns to have the tour play a role as a ‘marker’ for memory.
And again, he can’t state that for obvious reasons of image.
So his only option, insofar as he relies on image to translate into votes is avoidance
Not sure that it’s about votes to be honest Bill. I reckon it’s about self image pure and simple.
He hates to be on the ‘wrong’ side of things, so ‘forgets’, or avoids confronting, examples of that being the case.
Other examples include not showing up for Melissa Lee on by-election night; refusing to state why Worth was forced out of parliament; his comments on mine safety. etc.
Much of his rhetorical wrigglyness is for votes, and much of it seems to be based on not really being on top of shit, but some of it, to my eyes at least, looks like cognitive dissonance working its magic.
He hates to be on the ‘wrong’ side of things, so ‘forgets’, or avoids confronting, examples of that being the case.
How much cash did Key accept from the Brethren?
No No, he ‘didn’t read the email’
Maybe he, like a number of people at the time, couldn’t care less
Yes I know the 81 tour was the pinnacle achievement for most of you and that you all like to relive your “glory days” of standing up to “the man”
But just because it was (and by the sounds of it still is) the most importent thing in your life doesn’t mean its importent to everyone
normal for doubters like you to downplay the glorious history of prior battles 🙂
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Oh no I very much know the value of history as it teachs us so much but this is just a bunch of middle age lefties reliving past glories
Its simply passing on the lessons mate, to a new generation which must do the fighting now. Anyways, haven’t you ever had a nice reminisce with old fight buddies over a few beers 🙂
Only on ANZAC day, if you keep living in the past it colours your future
chris73
Just take a little time out and listen to the radionz link posted at the top of this thread and you will, perhaps, understand just how important the events around 1981 were to the struggle within South Africa.
Not a victory for New Zealanders, but a major contribution towards a victory over oppressed peoples.
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
What it also exposes, of course, is the shallowness of the subsequent “apologies” from the RFU and many of its ardent supporters here in New Zealand. Hope you were too young to be involved in 1981, otherwise your comments speak volumes about you…
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude that would have pleased the middle-class and middle-aged liberals
And as for change just exactly how much better off is South Africa now?
Higher unemployment, weaker dollar, higher crime levels
Yeah change is a good thing all right
^ A Kruger-Randian superhero.
@ Nat Brown Noser 73: South Africans still have some chance at least to sort their society out via the ballot box which was not possible under the Apartheid system.
The SA democratic change unfortunately occured during the height of Reaganism and Thatcherism which made it majorly harder.
turning a distinct lack of character into something to be admired eh?
Have to agree there. No sooner than Mandela was let out he embraced neo-liberalism and privatisaton all the way.
Yes, He was a great man who never lost hope and evenutally achieived his aim, but the neo-liberalism in my mind will always seem like an asterisk to me.
Millsy,
a reading of the original ANC Freedom Charter shows clearly that it was a national liberation movement, not necessarily an anti captialist or anti US corporate movement. That is why a number of people in the NZ anti apartheid and local anti racist movement in 1981 suggested looking at the programme of the PAC (Pan African Congress) and other left groups.
The poor buggers assumed fledgeling parliamentary democracy at the worst of times when neo liberalism was at it’s height.
“No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude….”
Let’s break this down:
“No, I appreciate his honesty “- ….”I can’t remember” is not an honest answer, he’s not old enough to begin losing his memory yet, it’s an evasive answer.
“as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude”- he did. and he does, over and over and over again.
What is wrong with you Chris 73 ?????
Going against the grain slightly, I’m picking that apartheid would have eventually come to an end, tour or not. Depriving over 70 percent of the population of political representation and civil rights was unsustainable.
It was important to many more people than you like to believe, Chris! (Such as my late brother who was in his teens at the time) and I…
Logie, I love Jokey hen…ultimate anagram. Well done, the f**ker doesnt deserve a monicker derived from something as benign as a chicken.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/rebekah-brooks-kemp-bryant
“Shut up, you homophobic cow”
An insight into the happy marriage of Rebekah Brooks and Ross Kemp.
Posted by Duncan Robinson – 08 July 2011 12:49
The Evening Standard yesterday interviewed Chris Bryant about his tireless efforts to investigate phone-hacking. This, understandably, annoyed Rebekah Brooks (nee Wade). Here’s Bryant’s version of his last meeting with Rupert Murdoch’s favourite seemingly Teflon-coated, flame-haired executive:
“She came up to me and said, ‘Oh, Mr Bryant, it’s after dark — shouldn’t you be on Clapham Common?”
“At which point Ross Kemp [the ex-EastEnders actor and her then husband] said, ‘Shut up, you homophobic cow’.”
Whether or not Kemp continued with “Leave it, you slag. He’s not worth it,” Bryant does not say.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/rebekah-brooks-kemp-bryant
Interesting, Morrissey!
I just found back some interesting links and thought to put them here for those of you curious about what really happened on 9/11 and how come the airspace was unprotected for more than 1.5 hours.
This is a video of Former Sen. Mark Dayton who wants to know why and how it was possible nobody was fired for the fact that the US airspace was unprotected for such a long time and he asks about the lies of the FAA and NORAD during 4 separate hearings.
This is a link to a radio presentation made by Robin Hordon who is a former FAA air traffic controller and core member of pilots for 911 truth who spells out the 50 year old protocol for dealing with in flight emergencies and hijackings which was violated four times that day.
Is Key becoming another arrogant politician? He said changing the Parliamentary oath of allegiance is not something he’s considered so it is not likely to change any time soon.
He will ignore the people and make his own decision? This is very poor from him, one of his weaknesses. He’s done this before, including jumping to rule out CGT.
He’s in danger of becoming just another politician too obsessed with his own opinion and power.
John Key pledges to not listen.
Nope, he’s always been an arrogant arse-hole obsessed with his own opinion and power.
Sounds like a Labour MP, maybe hes in the wrong party?
Nope, those are necessary pre-conditions for belonging to NAct. To belong to a leftish party requires that you do have concern for others.
More likely hes thinking theres more importent things to worry about
Yep like how to improve the spelling ability of RWNJs.
That’s such an odd thing for you to say given that ‘his own decisions’ are whatever the National focus groups like the sound of.
Further on Christchurch and the thinking on its progress and difficulties. On Chris Laidlaw this morning Radionz see below. This guy Regan Potangaroa is very clear headed, looking for a real understanding of what is needed, and sounds like a problem solver with good human values. A person to respect and listen out for when he makes comment. Also this group Engineers without Borders group sounds as if they are practical thinkers with minds open to finding solutions that work for people.
10:06 Regan Potangaroa – Engineering Change
For nearly 15 years, Dr Potangaroa has been involved in humanitarian aid and post disaster work in places such as Haiti, Sudan, Pakistan and Indonesia. More recently he has been working in Christchurch and he talks to Chris about humanitarian engineering – applying engineering principles directly to helping people hit by poverty and disaster, by providing clean drinking water, roads and houses. He also has a few things to say about building a better, fairer Christchurch, and taking care of the poorer parts of town where the most vulnerable people live.
Dr Regan Potangaroa is an Associate Professor at the School of Architecture at Unitec Auckland. He is attending this weekend’s Engineers without Borders NZ conference at Auckland University.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker. It is an illustration of why it is important to have informed people that aren’t in the NZ buddy loop so we can get unbiased views to help us evaluate how things are going on down here in Aotearoa.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker.
This is the spurious idea of “balance”. We saw it last week with Jim Mora asserting that he doesn’t want to “censor” the views of anyone—even a violent and discredited organisation like Garth McVicar’s Sensible Sentencing Trust.
But right at the end of the programme today, Laidlaw actually did something far more craven than putting in a good word for Mayor Bob. He read a ridiculous e-mail from someone who was affronted by the popular and media backlash against the saintly Rupert Murdoch. “What about Nicky Hager? He hacked into the National Party’s computers….”
Now, Chris Laidlaw is not stupid. He knows perfectly well that Hager did no such thing, and that he was leaked the information from a contact in
Bill English’s officethe National Party. The police found that there was no evidence at all of computer-hacking. Other than witless dupes like the fellow who sent Laidlaw that e-mail, the only people who say there was hacking are John Key and Don Brash, both of them notorious liars and both of them outed in Hager’s book for their secret deals with the Brethren.Yet Laidlaw still read out that letter. Once again, in case you’re horrified and mystified, it’s called “balance”.
It was the smiling assassin who had the most to gain he would have had to wait years to get another chance by then his good looks would be gone get it right.
This thing about press freedoms and competition and unfettered debate is what we hear argued for when talking about the dangers of government regulation.
So what happens – one megalomaniac tries to buy up all the newspapers and achieve a monopoly.
Then the press freedom is used to print whatever they want in a way that appeals to the most punters, no matter how it injures the subject and using whatever sleazy and unlawful means as with the phone hacking.
‘Unfettered debate’ has to be carried on under the shadow of this sort of power and so some things are left unsaid if unwanted by the now media empire.
The editors can be said to be completely free to publish without control from above, if the right person is appointed, at the right price. Then the puppet strings can be completely unnecessary or unseen.
And then there is the peculiar result of this mendacious media adopting a witch-hunting puritanical stance on sexual matters with an entirely salacious and voyeuristic zeal. They rightly say they are encouraged to do so by a public envious of those better endowed at all levels, who delight in the second-hand thrill of the ‘revelations’. When questioned one of the newspaper operatives questioned by Hugh Grant about this replied that he should have kept his in his pants. A lot of sniggers from behind. Of course the point that people’s private life should remain so, unless they do it in the street (or breach the noise controls) was bypassed in that discussion. (I think I heard the comment on today’s Mediawatch which can be played again and is also repeated at night).
NYT: The Journal Becomes Fox-ified.
It took Rupert Murdoch only three and a half years to get there, starting with the moment he acquired the paper from the dysfunctional Bancroft family in December 2007, a purchase that was completed after he vowed to protect The Journal’s editorial integrity and agreed to a (toothless) board that was supposed to make sure he kept that promise.
Fat chance of that. Within five months, Murdoch had fired the editor and installed his close friend Robert Thomson, fresh from a stint Fox-ifying The Times of London. The new publisher was Leslie Hinton, former boss of the division that published Murdoch’s British newspapers, including The News of the World.
Chin up, America.China ain’t so great.
With 64 million of these apartments sitting empty, too expensive for most Chinese to rent – artificially inflated prices keep “value” up high, which is also helpful on the spreadsheets – they’ve created the largest property bubble in history. The tiger’s paper is wearing thin.
There’s a you tube video at the link that shows these empty cities.
NB those empty cities are going to come in damn handy in 10-15 years time. I’m also betting that they are all being maintained, grass cut and windows cleaned, even as they are essentially deserted.
Oh fuck
This doesnt look good.
What the fuck are Labour doing.
What the fuck are Labour doing.
Presenting a coherent economic policy which may or may not impress those in the know but may not work on the general population.
The numbers are coarse but it seems Labour lost 7, and the Greens gained 5.
Not a good result but Labour/Green are still in it and need to raise their support.
And it is too early to be taken as evidence that the population may not like the CGT. These sorts of policies need to percolate through and the effects may take a while to appear.
Why include Mana in the equation? Mana won’t be in any Govt. any time soon.
Who gives a fuck? Off shore events with PIIGS and Tea Parties are going to send the world economy bust before thhe election, even if Shonkers wins he will be in the hot seat (plus his cash holdings will go up in flames as the banks fail).
millsy, it’s not Labour’s fault that Joe and Mary Bloggs are as thick as two short planks. Nor is it their fault J&M are politically ignorant, and take 6 months to figure out what the politically savvy can recognise in 24 hrs. My biggest fear is that Labour have left it too late to reveal their tax policies. I’m not convinced J&M will have it sorted by Nov. 26.
Hoping like hell that I’m wrong!
Ok, what I’m trying to say is a less than diplomatic version of ms at 6:32pm.
Hell, they probably havn’t worked out what CGT stands for yet. 😀
Meh the poll numbers are exactly what you would expect from phoning houses in Epsom, Remuera, Ponsonby, Takapuna, Helensville and Davenport.
Guyon Espiner’s party political broadcast on behalf of National on Thursday night TVNZ news must have helped this poll.
He said at the end of his report on Labour’s CGT announcement (where until then he had given the report in a reasonably soothing, unbiased way) that it had flaws and it would not be enough to woo national/swing voters away from national and that even some Labour voters would be lost because of it.
I rang to complain of his biased presentation, and said that I hoped this was not the beginning of the bias that I noticed from Espiner last election, where I considered that Espiner and his acolytes at TVNZ working wiith John Key and Rodney Hide were almost the sole reason there was a national victory in 2008.
I think such MSM spinners (or should I say ‘espinners’) should be outed and put in “dock’ or Murkdoch’ on the Standard everytime we see them spin for their preferred party during this election. A journalists ‘wall of shame’ where they fail to report the facts in a professionally ethical, fair,unbiased, objective manner, as they should.
It is remarkable that this poll reflects Guyon Espiner’s very ‘prophecy’. What a capable political reporter he is!?!
PS From election 08 coverage recognised the following as Nact Supporters ( I was not in the ‘know’ before): C&G Espiner, Duncan Garner and his side kick Scott somebody and possibly Tsai Tiffin, Barry Soper, Heather du Plessis Allen ,Therese Arseneau, Paul Holmes, Clare Trevett and most reporters at the Herald, particularly the Gallery. Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday. Although not a journalist, but now has a ‘column’ in the Herald, “philanthropist”Owen Glenn (mind you his actoid views do not lie well with said description of him).
I don’t mind comment or opinion when I know accurately what people stand for, but when they abuse what should be a neutral position to spin their own views, thereby subtly influencing public opinion, then it becomes propaganda and should be stamped out.
Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday.
Yes, I spotted that too seeker. In fact it’s happened several times in recent weeks. I spend more time at TV3 news because of it. TV3’s coverage on Thursday evening was fairer and more balanced than TV1. I commented to that effect here on Friday.
Btw, it’s far better to write a formal letter of complaint. Phone calls don’t even reach the right people. They’re just ignored. Worked in TV many years ago and that’s what used to happen. It won’t have changed.
Usual response to appalling poll results from the left, I see. The people are stupid. The media is against us.
Good luck with that.
And you were all so happy with yourselves this morning.
The people are stupid
Yeah… well, you’re probably one of them mate so can understand why you don’t like it.
Have you just taunted me by calling me a person?
I commented to that effect here on Friday.
ooops… no I didn’t. It was Red Alert.
Thanks Ann .I spotted your comment on Friday on Red Alert and was so pleased that someone had done just what you did. I just didn’t have time then. This type of thing really needs to be outed if we are not to be manipulated by unprofessional journalists and corporations – as Britain was for over 30years.
hear..hear.
Trouble is, the political parties seem to think they have to court the media instead of standing up to them. I was glad to see Cunliffe put Espinor in his place this morning. Goff is inclined to be too polite with him.
27%………………… bahahahahahahahah
The reality is, as pointed out on the Q&A – Kiwi workers will be looking at being up to 100 bucks a week off better under labour. With min wage, tax free zone, gst exemption off fruit and veg. The fact that the f*king stupid general public still dont get that John Key is selling their future, and their childrens future despite it being hammered out to them. In our household, its not through lack of sound and great labour policy, hate to say, but its Phil Goff. He is now too academic now to reach out to the working class – they arent listening. Cunliffe destroyed Espinar today – we hardly ever see politicians who have interviewers look as worried as that. He is RAZOR sharp, but warm and accessible…
Ok so Steven Joyce has “put Labour’s numbers through the Treasury calculator” and the REAL numbers show that (as reported by Farrar)
Thanks Stevie for clearing that up!
So I gather thats the same treasury calculator that tell us there are 170,000 jobs coming our way shortly?
Labours own numbers shower that the package became neutral in 7 years, the Nats claim its more like 12 years.
Labour did “forget” to add in intrest costs and did “assume” they could magically save $300 mil/yr in avoidance when the oppisite is logical.
10 years is propably close to the truth.
Bullshit mate, English’s numbers haven’t added up for the last 3 years, for instance where is last years promised 170,000 new jobs.
You can’t be so gullible as to believe even more made up numbers from them.
So Steven Joyce is using Govt depts for his own political ends pity they haven,t done the figures on the loss of income from asset sales as well . When you have an organization like treasury putting out stupid figures saying their are going to be a 170,000 new jobs in three years.You know their just making up stories for their neo liberal hero idols . The facts and the history don,t support this.National has been barely able to grow 30,000 new sustained jobs in 22years in govt since 1976 so nothing changes except that they have better spin doctors and a more subservant media which Joyce uses his connections with the radio works to push key the nice guy for free at every opportunity.
Micky say … “These sorts of policies need to percolate through and the effects may take a while to appear.”
So you predict a further 5% drop next poll?
I’m supprised Mickey, CV et al are not trotting out the line it is another rogue poll (number 39 in a row).
Come now, if JonKY and Blinglish actually believed these numbers were real, they would already have sold KiwiBank.
Who are you penguin’s pal and why should we treat anything you say with respect?
He could be a potential Labour voter micky, but no doubt you’ll jump to a conclusion and send him/her packing if you can. Can’t risk someone sneaking on board.
Nah not worth converting/saving/convincing the Right. Waste of effort.
Turning out the Left’s core support is where it is at.
From DPF..
» National – 53% (+1)
» Labour – 27% (-7)
» Greens – 10% (+4)
» Maori – 3% (+1.4)
» ACT – 3.1% (+0.6)
» NZ First – 2.4% (+0.8)
» United Future – 0.3%
» Mana – 0.5% (-0.4)
UNDECIDED 14-16% thanks dc
Trev will be on the phone to NY headquarters, Goff gone by Tuesday.
Back to the old leadership chestnut? Haha politics of envy and greed not doing it for you eh?
CV Goff only polled 9% and Labour 27%, so I assume 2/3rds of Labour supporters think hes not up to it. Like I said Goff gone by Tuesday.
You guys really are out of ideas.
Goff/Cunliffe/Parker is a combo up against Key/English/Brownlee that I will bet on any time mate lol
Cunliffe was in great form against Espiner this morning on Q & A
Espiner was getting in a real flap-made my day
Maybe Kiwis need and deserve 3 more years of NAct
Then there will be alot bleating
I think these polls are rigged
I know of Noone whom i know e ver being rung
but then they dont live in snob areas
Shame Cunliffe’s not the leader then – oooops
No, they will keep Goff – the plan was always to sacrifice him at this election. No matter how bad it gets they will keep him until after the election. It always takes a long time to rebuild after a party that has been controlled by a very dominant figure that polarised people, such as Muldoon or Clark – look how long it took for National to get themselves back into fully functional form following Muldoon’s demise, despite the incompetence of Labour during the 80s – it will be the same for Labour.
Prime Minister Phil Goff 🙂
Man you guys are all out of ammo already, recycling old memes from Q1 haha
Um, I think Phil’s the one being recycled…
I have two words for you:
Darth Brash
Ha – it might surprise you to know that I consider Brash an idiot – a Polite idiot tho’, as opposed to Mrs Harawira’s little boy who is simply a Rude idiot.
But my point is solid regarding Goff – he is just (and justly) cannon fodder while Cunliffe and Little complete their backroom manoueveurs.
Meh more recycled talking points. Meanwhile, Key is already one foot out the door, English has to be sweet talked to give the top position over to Joyce and he won’t like that one bit.
MR BURNS
Pp bet you $1000 Goff stays until the election. do you accept?
Micky, I’ll bet you $1000 that Labour is not in government after the election.
Do you accept?
I thought someone like you would have said lunch time. But as they say a week in politics is a long time if the economy keeps dragging along the bottom Europe or the US crashes and or the All Blacks loose.Maybe a Murdoch moment happens here don,t count your chooks before they hatch they might just come home to roost just like a large Deb,t .Aye happy feet!
Meh
Colmar Brunton Poll August 2011.
Leading news today Labour up FOUR POINTS. Voters have reacted positively to Capital Gains Tax with National falling dramatically five points. The greens have fallen back to 8% and Winston Peters is in great shape up 0.1%. National will be very concerned about these numbers. Just last month we reported on a dramatic 7 percentage point fall for Labour and now they’re looking better.
Gingercrush:
In your dreams.
Hardly my dream. Just can’t get excited about a poll that will rebalance itself next time.