Significant events in New Zealand History – South African Rugby Tour 1981
Over the last few weeks we have been catching snippets of news replays and interviews with various high profile people who were around in 1981 (including Kathryn Ryan’s interview with Kumi Naidoo) and simply cannot believe Joky Hen’s stated detachment from and disinterest in issues at the time – particularly given he was apparently at University – where issues were in your face!
Yep. I am John Key’s age and was at University at the same time although at Auckland. I can tell you what I was doing during most of the games and which protests I attended (almost all).
There are two possibilities for Key’s statement:
1. He is suffering major medical problems with his memory,
2. He is lying.
Has the English language changed overnight? I was proposing two possibilities to explain a phenomenon and you are claiming that I maintained one was true?
Tell me SS do you get paid by CT per post here or do you get a bonus for the especially inane ones?
SS,
I was living in Holland at the time (being Dutch and all) and I remember what I was thinking about NZ and the South African Rugby tour! That’s how big it was. For John not to remember is incomprehensible!
SS/Pete, it’s very simple. It stretches the imagination somewhat that a man of Key’s age has trouble remembering his stance on the events of the 1981 Springbok Tour. Even I can remember it and I was three and a half at the same time and all it looked like to me was a bunch of big blue blokes with moustaches hitting people on the telly. So I think it’s safe to conclude that Jonkey is obfuscating.
As for a serious medical problem with his memory, do you really have that flimsy a grasp of basic sarcasm or are you intentionally trying to clog up yet another thread with inane concern trolling?
Good trolling, SS – besides the obvious parallels regarding the RWC and Fiji, or indeed a lack of concern about free trade with nations that practise child or slave labour, the fact is that Key’s lack of memmory sums him up nicely.
He would rather claim senility than admit to having an actual opinion about some of the most notable events in NZ’s recent history.
It is inconceivable that anyone of reasonably sound mind that was around in ’81 does not recall what their opinion on the tour was, especially whilst attending a hothouse of ideas and events such as universities were in that pre ‘bums on seats’ era.
It is conceivable 30 years later though that someone i.e. Shonkey, might not want to publicly express that opinion in light of todays views on racism etc. and risk the smile and wave narrative. What a slippery character.
Yeah this is one that has not gone away for Key, possibly because there are still thousands of us left that personally experienced the tour. Like Micky I spent weeks at meetings, marches and police stations that winter, and know that it is just NOT possible even for those on the sidelines to not have had an opinion.
Really who cares if Shonkey had some weasel position on it, the issue is the credibility of the PM of this country.
Saw this faux pas? The ass finds it difficult to tell the difference. “Confused” was quite a polite euphemism for fkd up.
“A Government spokesperson says the prime minister confused advice about Nakarawa not being on the team list, with the list of people who are banned from travel here, including serving army officers.”
Sorry to repeat myself M/S but as I have said on Standard before ,Key seems to have a drink problem. All the symtons are there .Loss of memory, the stupid grinning and hand flaping plus the flounting around and acting the fool. Just take note off the times he photographed with a drink in his hand, Helen always had fruit juice thats why she was so articulate , not like the buffon we are burdened with now.
Would votes be gained for him and his image enhanced by stating that he was anti-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged by stating he was anti-tour? Well, his image would be damaged in the eyes of a percentage of national voters.
Would votes be gained and his image enhanced if he stated he was pro-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged if he stated he was pro-tour? Well, his image would definately be damaged.
Let’s face it. He wasn’t anti-tour. He has indicated this quite strongly.
But if he was to state that overtly, then how would he explain his support of government policy towards Fiji?
Meanwhile, I’m willing to believe that he was essentially disinterested…neither pro nor anti…out the loop…too wrapped up in his own $$$ concerns to have the tour play a role as a ‘marker’ for memory.
And again, he can’t state that for obvious reasons of image.
So his only option, insofar as he relies on image to translate into votes is avoidance
Not sure that it’s about votes to be honest Bill. I reckon it’s about self image pure and simple.
He hates to be on the ‘wrong’ side of things, so ‘forgets’, or avoids confronting, examples of that being the case.
Other examples include not showing up for Melissa Lee on by-election night; refusing to state why Worth was forced out of parliament; his comments on mine safety. etc.
Much of his rhetorical wrigglyness is for votes, and much of it seems to be based on not really being on top of shit, but some of it, to my eyes at least, looks like cognitive dissonance working its magic.
Its simply passing on the lessons mate, to a new generation which must do the fighting now. Anyways, haven’t you ever had a nice reminisce with old fight buddies over a few beers 🙂
Just take a little time out and listen to the radionz link posted at the top of this thread and you will, perhaps, understand just how important the events around 1981 were to the struggle within South Africa.
Not a victory for New Zealanders, but a major contribution towards a victory over oppressed peoples.
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
What it also exposes, of course, is the shallowness of the subsequent “apologies” from the RFU and many of its ardent supporters here in New Zealand. Hope you were too young to be involved in 1981, otherwise your comments speak volumes about you…
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude that would have pleased the middle-class and middle-aged liberals
And as for change just exactly how much better off is South Africa now?
@ Nat Brown Noser 73: South Africans still have some chance at least to sort their society out via the ballot box which was not possible under the Apartheid system.
The SA democratic change unfortunately occured during the height of Reaganism and Thatcherism which made it majorly harder.
Have to agree there. No sooner than Mandela was let out he embraced neo-liberalism and privatisaton all the way.
Yes, He was a great man who never lost hope and evenutally achieived his aim, but the neo-liberalism in my mind will always seem like an asterisk to me.
Millsy,
a reading of the original ANC Freedom Charter shows clearly that it was a national liberation movement, not necessarily an anti captialist or anti US corporate movement. That is why a number of people in the NZ anti apartheid and local anti racist movement in 1981 suggested looking at the programme of the PAC (Pan African Congress) and other left groups.
The poor buggers assumed fledgeling parliamentary democracy at the worst of times when neo liberalism was at it’s height.
“No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude….”
Let’s break this down:
“No, I appreciate his honesty “- ….”I can’t remember” is not an honest answer, he’s not old enough to begin losing his memory yet, it’s an evasive answer.
“as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude”- he did. and he does, over and over and over again.
Going against the grain slightly, I’m picking that apartheid would have eventually come to an end, tour or not. Depriving over 70 percent of the population of political representation and civil rights was unsustainable.
The Evening Standard yesterday interviewed Chris Bryant about his tireless efforts to investigate phone-hacking. This, understandably, annoyed Rebekah Brooks (nee Wade). Here’s Bryant’s version of his last meeting with Rupert Murdoch’s favourite seemingly Teflon-coated, flame-haired executive:
“She came up to me and said, ‘Oh, Mr Bryant, it’s after dark — shouldn’t you be on Clapham Common?”
“At which point Ross Kemp [the ex-EastEnders actor and her then husband] said, ‘Shut up, you homophobic cow’.”
Whether or not Kemp continued with “Leave it, you slag. He’s not worth it,” Bryant does not say.
I just found back some interesting links and thought to put them here for those of you curious about what really happened on 9/11 and how come the airspace was unprotected for more than 1.5 hours.
This is a video of Former Sen. Mark Dayton who wants to know why and how it was possible nobody was fired for the fact that the US airspace was unprotected for such a long time and he asks about the lies of the FAA and NORAD during 4 separate hearings.
This is a link to a radio presentation made by Robin Hordon who is a former FAA air traffic controller and core member of pilots for 911 truth who spells out the 50 year old protocol for dealing with in flight emergencies and hijackings which was violated four times that day.
Is Key becoming another arrogant politician? He said changing the Parliamentary oath of allegiance is not something he’s considered so it is not likely to change any time soon.
He will ignore the people and make his own decision? This is very poor from him, one of his weaknesses. He’s done this before, including jumping to rule out CGT.
He’s in danger of becoming just another politician too obsessed with his own opinion and power.
Further on Christchurch and the thinking on its progress and difficulties. On Chris Laidlaw this morning Radionz see below. This guy Regan Potangaroa is very clear headed, looking for a real understanding of what is needed, and sounds like a problem solver with good human values. A person to respect and listen out for when he makes comment. Also this group Engineers without Borders group sounds as if they are practical thinkers with minds open to finding solutions that work for people.
10:06 Regan Potangaroa – Engineering Change
For nearly 15 years, Dr Potangaroa has been involved in humanitarian aid and post disaster work in places such as Haiti, Sudan, Pakistan and Indonesia. More recently he has been working in Christchurch and he talks to Chris about humanitarian engineering – applying engineering principles directly to helping people hit by poverty and disaster, by providing clean drinking water, roads and houses. He also has a few things to say about building a better, fairer Christchurch, and taking care of the poorer parts of town where the most vulnerable people live.
Dr Regan Potangaroa is an Associate Professor at the School of Architecture at Unitec Auckland. He is attending this weekend’s Engineers without Borders NZ conference at Auckland University.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker. It is an illustration of why it is important to have informed people that aren’t in the NZ buddy loop so we can get unbiased views to help us evaluate how things are going on down here in Aotearoa.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker.
This is the spurious idea of “balance”. We saw it last week with Jim Mora asserting that he doesn’t want to “censor” the views of anyone—even a violent and discredited organisation like Garth McVicar’s Sensible Sentencing Trust.
But right at the end of the programme today, Laidlaw actually did something far more craven than putting in a good word for Mayor Bob. He read a ridiculous e-mail from someone who was affronted by the popular and media backlash against the saintly Rupert Murdoch. “What about Nicky Hager? He hacked into the National Party’s computers….”
Now, Chris Laidlaw is not stupid. He knows perfectly well that Hager did no such thing, and that he was leaked the information from a contact in Bill English’s officethe National Party. The police found that there was no evidence at all of computer-hacking. Other than witless dupes like the fellow who sent Laidlaw that e-mail, the only people who say there was hacking are John Key and Don Brash, both of them notorious liars and both of them outed in Hager’s book for their secret deals with the Brethren.
Yet Laidlaw still read out that letter. Once again, in case you’re horrified and mystified, it’s called “balance”.
It was the smiling assassin who had the most to gain he would have had to wait years to get another chance by then his good looks would be gone get it right.
This thing about press freedoms and competition and unfettered debate is what we hear argued for when talking about the dangers of government regulation.
So what happens – one megalomaniac tries to buy up all the newspapers and achieve a monopoly.
Then the press freedom is used to print whatever they want in a way that appeals to the most punters, no matter how it injures the subject and using whatever sleazy and unlawful means as with the phone hacking.
‘Unfettered debate’ has to be carried on under the shadow of this sort of power and so some things are left unsaid if unwanted by the now media empire.
The editors can be said to be completely free to publish without control from above, if the right person is appointed, at the right price. Then the puppet strings can be completely unnecessary or unseen.
And then there is the peculiar result of this mendacious media adopting a witch-hunting puritanical stance on sexual matters with an entirely salacious and voyeuristic zeal. They rightly say they are encouraged to do so by a public envious of those better endowed at all levels, who delight in the second-hand thrill of the ‘revelations’. When questioned one of the newspaper operatives questioned by Hugh Grant about this replied that he should have kept his in his pants. A lot of sniggers from behind. Of course the point that people’s private life should remain so, unless they do it in the street (or breach the noise controls) was bypassed in that discussion. (I think I heard the comment on today’s Mediawatch which can be played again and is also repeated at night).
It took Rupert Murdoch only three and a half years to get there, starting with the moment he acquired the paper from the dysfunctional Bancroft family in December 2007, a purchase that was completed after he vowed to protect The Journal’s editorial integrity and agreed to a (toothless) board that was supposed to make sure he kept that promise.
Fat chance of that. Within five months, Murdoch had fired the editor and installed his close friend Robert Thomson, fresh from a stint Fox-ifying The Times of London. The new publisher was Leslie Hinton, former boss of the division that published Murdoch’s British newspapers, including The News of the World.
With 64 million of these apartments sitting empty, too expensive for most Chinese to rent – artificially inflated prices keep “value” up high, which is also helpful on the spreadsheets – they’ve created the largest property bubble in history. The tiger’s paper is wearing thin.
There’s a you tube video at the link that shows these empty cities.
NB those empty cities are going to come in damn handy in 10-15 years time. I’m also betting that they are all being maintained, grass cut and windows cleaned, even as they are essentially deserted.
Presenting a coherent economic policy which may or may not impress those in the know but may not work on the general population.
The numbers are coarse but it seems Labour lost 7, and the Greens gained 5.
Not a good result but Labour/Green are still in it and need to raise their support.
And it is too early to be taken as evidence that the population may not like the CGT. These sorts of policies need to percolate through and the effects may take a while to appear.
Who gives a fuck? Off shore events with PIIGS and Tea Parties are going to send the world economy bust before thhe election, even if Shonkers wins he will be in the hot seat (plus his cash holdings will go up in flames as the banks fail).
millsy, it’s not Labour’s fault that Joe and Mary Bloggs are as thick as two short planks. Nor is it their fault J&M are politically ignorant, and take 6 months to figure out what the politically savvy can recognise in 24 hrs. My biggest fear is that Labour have left it too late to reveal their tax policies. I’m not convinced J&M will have it sorted by Nov. 26.
Hoping like hell that I’m wrong!
Ok, what I’m trying to say is a less than diplomatic version of ms at 6:32pm.
Hell, they probably havn’t worked out what CGT stands for yet. 😀
Guyon Espiner’s party political broadcast on behalf of National on Thursday night TVNZ news must have helped this poll.
He said at the end of his report on Labour’s CGT announcement (where until then he had given the report in a reasonably soothing, unbiased way) that it had flaws and it would not be enough to woo national/swing voters away from national and that even some Labour voters would be lost because of it.
I rang to complain of his biased presentation, and said that I hoped this was not the beginning of the bias that I noticed from Espiner last election, where I considered that Espiner and his acolytes at TVNZ working wiith John Key and Rodney Hide were almost the sole reason there was a national victory in 2008.
I think such MSM spinners (or should I say ‘espinners’) should be outed and put in “dock’ or Murkdoch’ on the Standard everytime we see them spin for their preferred party during this election. A journalists ‘wall of shame’ where they fail to report the facts in a professionally ethical, fair,unbiased, objective manner, as they should.
It is remarkable that this poll reflects Guyon Espiner’s very ‘prophecy’. What a capable political reporter he is!?!
PS From election 08 coverage recognised the following as Nact Supporters ( I was not in the ‘know’ before): C&G Espiner, Duncan Garner and his side kick Scott somebody and possibly Tsai Tiffin, Barry Soper, Heather du Plessis Allen ,Therese Arseneau, Paul Holmes, Clare Trevett and most reporters at the Herald, particularly the Gallery. Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday. Although not a journalist, but now has a ‘column’ in the Herald, “philanthropist”Owen Glenn (mind you his actoid views do not lie well with said description of him).
I don’t mind comment or opinion when I know accurately what people stand for, but when they abuse what should be a neutral position to spin their own views, thereby subtly influencing public opinion, then it becomes propaganda and should be stamped out.
Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday.
Yes, I spotted that too seeker. In fact it’s happened several times in recent weeks. I spend more time at TV3 news because of it. TV3’s coverage on Thursday evening was fairer and more balanced than TV1. I commented to that effect here on Friday.
Btw, it’s far better to write a formal letter of complaint. Phone calls don’t even reach the right people. They’re just ignored. Worked in TV many years ago and that’s what used to happen. It won’t have changed.
Thanks Ann .I spotted your comment on Friday on Red Alert and was so pleased that someone had done just what you did. I just didn’t have time then. This type of thing really needs to be outed if we are not to be manipulated by unprofessional journalists and corporations – as Britain was for over 30years.
Trouble is, the political parties seem to think they have to court the media instead of standing up to them. I was glad to see Cunliffe put Espinor in his place this morning. Goff is inclined to be too polite with him.
The reality is, as pointed out on the Q&A – Kiwi workers will be looking at being up to 100 bucks a week off better under labour. With min wage, tax free zone, gst exemption off fruit and veg. The fact that the f*king stupid general public still dont get that John Key is selling their future, and their childrens future despite it being hammered out to them. In our household, its not through lack of sound and great labour policy, hate to say, but its Phil Goff. He is now too academic now to reach out to the working class – they arent listening. Cunliffe destroyed Espinar today – we hardly ever see politicians who have interviewers look as worried as that. He is RAZOR sharp, but warm and accessible…
Ok so Steven Joyce has “put Labour’s numbers through the Treasury calculator” and the REAL numbers show that (as reported by Farrar)
Labour’s package will result in less tax revenue until 2024! And then when you take account of the interest on the extra borrowing, it will result in an extra $15b of borrowing between now and 2025.”
Labours own numbers shower that the package became neutral in 7 years, the Nats claim its more like 12 years.
Labour did “forget” to add in intrest costs and did “assume” they could magically save $300 mil/yr in avoidance when the oppisite is logical.
10 years is propably close to the truth.
So Steven Joyce is using Govt depts for his own political ends pity they haven,t done the figures on the loss of income from asset sales as well . When you have an organization like treasury putting out stupid figures saying their are going to be a 170,000 new jobs in three years.You know their just making up stories for their neo liberal hero idols . The facts and the history don,t support this.National has been barely able to grow 30,000 new sustained jobs in 22years in govt since 1976 so nothing changes except that they have better spin doctors and a more subservant media which Joyce uses his connections with the radio works to push key the nice guy for free at every opportunity.
He could be a potential Labour voter micky, but no doubt you’ll jump to a conclusion and send him/her packing if you can. Can’t risk someone sneaking on board.
No, they will keep Goff – the plan was always to sacrifice him at this election. No matter how bad it gets they will keep him until after the election. It always takes a long time to rebuild after a party that has been controlled by a very dominant figure that polarised people, such as Muldoon or Clark – look how long it took for National to get themselves back into fully functional form following Muldoon’s demise, despite the incompetence of Labour during the 80s – it will be the same for Labour.
Ha – it might surprise you to know that I consider Brash an idiot – a Polite idiot tho’, as opposed to Mrs Harawira’s little boy who is simply a Rude idiot.
But my point is solid regarding Goff – he is just (and justly) cannon fodder while Cunliffe and Little complete their backroom manoueveurs.
Meh more recycled talking points. Meanwhile, Key is already one foot out the door, English has to be sweet talked to give the top position over to Joyce and he won’t like that one bit.
I thought someone like you would have said lunch time. But as they say a week in politics is a long time if the economy keeps dragging along the bottom Europe or the US crashes and or the All Blacks loose.Maybe a Murdoch moment happens here don,t count your chooks before they hatch they might just come home to roost just like a large Deb,t .Aye happy feet!
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span class=”dropcap”>As hideous as David Seymour can be, it is worth keeping in mind occasionally that there are even worse political figures (and regimes) out there. Iran for instance, is about to execute the country’s leading hip hop musician Toomaj Salehi, for writing and performing raps that “corrupt” the nation’s ...
Yesterday marked 10 years since the first electric train carried passengers in Auckland so it’s a good time to look back at it and the impact it has had. A brief history The first proposals for rail electrification in Auckland came in the 1920’s alongside the plans for earlier ...
Right now, in Aotearoa-NZ, our ‘animal spirits’ are darkening towards a winter of discontent, thanks at least partly to a chorus of negative comments and actions from the Government Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on ...
You make people evil to punish the paststuck inside a sequel with a rotating castThe following photos haven’t been generated with AI, or modified in any way. They are flesh and blood, human beings. On the left is Galatea Young, a young mum, and her daughter Fiadh who has Angelman ...
April has been a quiet month at A Phuulish Fellow. I have had an exceptionally good reading month, and a decently productive writing month – for original fiction, anyway – but not much has caught my eye that suggested a blog article. It has been vaguely frustrating, to be honest. ...
A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 21, 2024 thru Sat, April 27, 2024. Story of the week Anthropogenic climate change may be the ultimate shaggy dog story— but with a twist, because here ...
Hi,I spent about a year on Webworm reporting on an abusive megachurch called Arise, and it made me want to stab my eyes out with a fork.I don’t regret that reporting in 2022 and 2023 — I am proud of it — but it made me angry.Over three main stories ...
The new Victoria University Vice-Chancellor decided to have a forum at the university about free speech and academic freedom as it is obviously a topical issue, and the Government is looking at legislating some carrots or sticks for universities to uphold their obligations under the Education and Training Act. They ...
Do you remember when Melania Trump got caught out using a speech that sounded awfully like one Michelle Obama had given? Uncannily so.Well it turns out that Abraham Lincoln is to Winston Peters as Michelle was to Melania. With the ANZAC speech Uncle Winston gave at Gallipoli having much in ...
She was born 25 years ago today in North Shore hospital. Her eyes were closed tightly shut, her mouth was silently moving. The whole theatre was all quiet intensity as they marked her a 2 on the APGAR test. A one-minute eternity later, she was an 8. The universe was ...
Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Is Antarctica gaining land ice? ...
Images of US students (and others) protesting and setting up tent cities on US university campuses have been broadcast world wide and clearly demonstrate the growing rifts in US society caused by US policy toward Israel and Israel’s prosecution of … Continue reading → ...
Barrie Saunders writes – Dear Paul As the new Minister of Media and Communications, you will be inundated with heaps of free advice and special pleading, all in the national interest of course. For what it’s worth here is my assessment: Traditional broadcasting free to air content through ...
Many criticisms are being made of the Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill, including by this writer. But as with everything in politics, every story has two sides, and both deserve attention. It’s important to understand what the Government is trying to achieve and its arguments for such a bold reform. ...
Peter Dunne writes – The great nineteenth British Prime Minister, William Gladstone, once observed that “the first essential for a Prime Minister is to be a good butcher.” When a later British Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, sacked a third of his Cabinet in July 1962, in what became ...
Ele Ludemann writes – New Zealanders had the OECD’s second highest tax increase last year: New Zealanders faced the second-biggest tax raises in the developed world last year, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) says. The intergovernmental agency said the average change in personal income tax ...
We all know something’s not right with our elections. The spread of misinformation, people being targeted with soundbites and emotional triggers that ignore the facts, even the truth, and influence their votes.The use of technology to produce deep fakes. How can you tell if something is real or not? Can ...
This video includes conclusions of the creator climate scientist Dr. Simon Clark. It is presented to our readers as an informed perspective. Please see video description for references (if any). This year you will be lied to! Simon Clark helps prebunk some misleading statements you'll hear about climate. The video includes ...
It is all very well cutting the backrooms of public agencies but it may compromise the frontlines. One of the frustrations of the Productivity Commission’s 2017 review of universities is that while it observed that their non-academic staff were increasing faster than their academic staff, it did not bother to ...
Buzz from the Beehive Two speeches delivered by Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters at Anzac Day ceremonies in Turkey are the only new posts on the government’s official website since the PM announced his Cabinet shake-up. In one of the speeches, Peters stated the obvious: we live in a troubled ...
1. Which of these would you not expect to read in The Waikato Invader?a. Luxon is here to do business, don’t you worry about thatb. Mr KPI expects results, and you better believe itc. This decisive man of action is getting me all hot and excitedd. Melissa Lee is how ...
…it has a restricted jurisdiction which must not be abused: it is not an inquisitionNOTE – this article was published before the High Court ruled that Karen Chhour does not have to appear before the Waitangi Tribunal Gary Judd writes – The High Court ...
Lindsay Mitchell writes – One of reasons Oranga Tamariki exists is to prevent child neglect. But could the organisation itself be guilty of the same?Oranga Tamariki’s statistics show a decrease in the number and age of children in care. “There are less children ...
David Farrar writes: Graeme Edgeler wrote in 2017: In the first five years after three strikes came into effect 5248 offenders received a ‘first strike’ (that is, a “stage-1 conviction” under the three strikes sentencing regime), and 68 offenders received a ‘second strike’. In the five years prior to ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has surprised everyone with his ruthlessness in sacking two of his ministers from their crucial portfolios. Removing ministers for poor performance after only five months in the job just doesn’t normally happen in politics. That’s refreshing and will be extremely ...
TL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the two days to 6:06am on Thursday, April 25:Politics: PM Christopher Luxon has set up a dual standard for ministerial competence by demoting two National Cabinet ministers while leaving also-struggling ...
Hi,Today I mainly want to share some of your thoughts about the recent piece I wrote about success and failure, and the forces that seemingly guide our lives. But first, a quick bit of housekeeping: I am doing a Webworm popup in Los Angeles on Saturday May 11 at 2pm. ...
It is hard to see what Melissa Lee might have done to “save” the media. National went into the election with no public media policy and appears not to have developed one subsequently. Lee claimed that she had prepared a policy paper before the election but it had been decided ...
Open access notablesIce acceleration and rotation in the Greenland Ice Sheet interior in recent decades, Løkkegaard et al., Communications Earth & Environment:In the past two decades, mass loss from the Greenland ice sheet has accelerated, partly due to the speedup of glaciers. However, uncertainty in speed derived from satellite products ...
Buzz from the Beehive A statement from Children’s Minister Karen Chhour – yet to be posted on the Government’s official website – arrived in Point of Order’s email in-tray last night. It welcomes the High Court ruling on whether the Waitangi Tribunal can demand she appear before it. It does ...
Mr Bombastic:Ironically, the media the academic experts wanted is, in many ways, the media they got. In place of the tyrannical editors of yesteryear, advancing without fear or favour the interests of the ruling class; the New Zealand news media of today boasts a troop of enlightened journalists dedicated to ...
It's hard times try to make a livingYou wake up every morning in the unforgivingOut there somewhere in the cityThere's people living lives without mercy or pityI feel good, yeah I'm feeling fineI feel better then I have for the longest timeI think these pills have been good for meI ...
In 1974, the US Supreme Court issued its decision in United States v. Nixon, finding that the President was not a King, but was subject to the law and was required to turn over the evidence of his wrongdoing to the courts. It was a landmark decision for the rule ...
Every day now just seems to bring in more fresh meat for the grinder.In their relentlessly ideological drive to cut back on the “excessive bloat” (as they see it) of the previous Labour-led government, on the mountains of evidence accumulated in such a short period of time do not ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Megan Valére SosouMarket gardening site of the Itchèléré de Itagui agricultural cooperative in Dassa-Zoumè (Image credit: Megan Valère Sossou) For the residents of Dassa-Zoumè, a city in the West African country of Benin, choosing between drinking water and having enough ...
Buzz from the Beehive Melissa Lee – as may be discerned from the screenshot above – has not been demoted for doing something seriously wrong as Minister of ...
Labour is calling for the Government to urgently rethink its coalition commitment to restart live animal exports, Labour animal welfare spokesperson Rachel Boyack said. ...
Today’s Financial Stability Report has once again highlighted that poverty and deep inequality are political choices - and this Government is choosing to make them worse. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to do more for our households in most need as unemployment rises and the cost of living crisis endures. ...
Unemployment is on the rise and it’s only going to get worse under this Government, Labour finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds said. Stats NZ figures show the unemployment rate grew to 4.3 percent in the March quarter from 4 percent in the December quarter. “This is the second rise in unemployment ...
The New Zealand Labour Party welcomes the entering into force of the European Union and New Zealand free trade agreement. This agreement opens the door for a huge increase in trade opportunities with a market of 450 million people who are high value discerning consumers of New Zealand goods and ...
The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
The new NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) App is a secure ‘one stop shop’ to provide the services drivers need, Transport Minister Simeon Brown and Digitising Government Minister Judith Collins say. “The NZTA App will enable an easier way for Kiwis to pay for Vehicle Registration and Road User Charges (RUC). ...
Whānau with tamariki growing up in emergency housing motels will be prioritised for social housing starting this week, says Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka. “Giving these whānau a better opportunity to build healthy stable lives for themselves and future generations is an essential part of the Government’s goal of reducing ...
Racing Minister Winston Peters has paid tribute to an icon of the industry with the recent passing of Dave O’Sullivan (OBE). “Our sympathies are with the O’Sullivan family with the sad news of Dave O’Sullivan’s recent passing,” Mr Peters says. “His contribution to racing, initially as a jockey and then ...
Assalaamu alaikum, greetings to you all. Eid Mubarak, everyone! I want to extend my warmest wishes to you and everyone celebrating this joyous occasion. It is a pleasure to be here. I have enjoyed Eid celebrations at Parliament before, but this is my first time joining you as the Minister ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff. “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
Hon Paula Bennett has been appointed as member and chair of the Pharmac board, Associate Health Minister David Seymour announced today. "Pharmac is a critical part of New Zealand's health system and plays a significant role in ensuring that Kiwis have the best possible access to medicines,” says Mr Seymour. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions. “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says. “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today. “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
Rongotai MP Julie Anne Genter has apologised in Parliament after National accused her of intimidating and attacking one of its ministers in the House. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The Prime Minister and state and territory leaders met on Wednesday as the national cabinet to discuss a crisis gripping Australia – the horrific number of women murdered this year. The killings have shocked ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Radhika Raghav, Teaching Fellow, School of Humanities and Social Sciences, University of Otago Netflix Indian director Sanjay Leela Bhansali is known for his big-budget Bollywood production, featuring grand sets, star casts, meticulously choreographed dance sequences and lavish costumes, jewellery and furnishings. ...
Sir Robert devoted his life to disability rights after living in institutions in his younger years, says Kaihautū Tika Hauātanga | Disability Rights Commissioner Prudence Walker. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Anastasia Powell, Professor, Family and Sexual Violence, RMIT University Violence against women is not a women’s problem to solve, it is a whole of society problem to solve; and men in particular have to take responsibility. Those were the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jessica Allen, Senior Lecturer in Chemical and Renewable Energy Engineering, University of Newcastle Snapshot freddy/ShutterstockPlans to revive an old coal-fired power station using bioenergy are being considered in the Hunter region of New South Wales. Similar plans for the station ...
Responding to the long-awaited release of judges’ special allowances, including free air travel and hotels for spouses, generous sabbaticals, and access to limousines, Taxpayers’ Union spokesman Alex Murphy said: “In what world does your employer ...
Analysis - The United States has unveiled plans to boost the weapons trade with Australia and the UK, on the same day that Winston Peters is expected to sketch NZ's position on AUKUS. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrea Carson, Professor of Political Communication, Department of Politics, Media and Philosophy, La Trobe University Since Australia’s First Nations Voice to Parliament referendum in October 2023, diverse commentaries have sought to explain why it failed. But what does an analysis of media ...
Lawyers representing two iwi as well as the Māori Women’s Welfare League on Wednesday asked the Court of Appeal to overturn last week’s High Court decision on the Waitangi Tribunal’s decision to summons Children’s Minister Karen Chhour. The Tribunal is currently investigating the Government’s decision to repeal section 7AA of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The Albanese government will introduce legislation to ban deepfake pornography and provide more funding for the eSafety Commission to pilot age-assurance technologies. The contribution of internet sites to gender-based violence was one major issue ...
Average ordinary time hourly earnings, as measured by the Quarterly Employment Survey (QES), increased 5.2 percent in the year to the March 2024 quarter, according to figures released by Stats NZ today. Annual wage cost inflation, as measured by the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Dimitrios Salampasis, FinTech Capability Lead | Senior Lecturer, Emerging Technologies and FinTech, Swinburne University of Technology Clem Onojeghuo/Unsplash In the digital era, the job market is increasingly becoming a minefield – demanding and difficult to navigate. According to the Australian Bureau ...
As of the March 2024 quarter, we can now look back on 20 years of data related to youth not in employment, education, or training (NEET), as collected by the Household Labour Force Survey (HLFS), according to figures released by Stats NZ today. "The ...
Thousands of workers attended public events in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch today to celebrate International Workers’ Day (May Day), but union representatives are urging caution and vigilance over the Government’s blatantly "anti-worker" ...
The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate was 4.3 percent in the March 2024 quarter, compared with 4.0 percent in the previous quarter, according to figures released by Stats NZ today. ...
The PSA is warning the Government that the sensitive information of New Zealanders held by various agencies will fall into the wrong hands if the latest round of proposed cuts goes ahead. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Talitha Best, Professor of Psychology, CQUniversity Australia Victoria Rodriguez/Unsplash How do sugar rushes work? – W.H, age nine, from Canberra What a terrific question W.H! Let’s explore this, starting with some of the basics. What is sugar? ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Karinna Saxby, Research Fellow, Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research, The University of Melbourne MART PRODUCTION/Pexels Increasing income support could help keep women and children safe according to new work demonstrating strong links between financial insecurity and domestic violence. ...
ANALYSIS:By Olli Hellmann, University of Waikato When New Zealanders commemorate Anzac Day today on April 25, it’s not only to honour the soldiers who lost their lives in World War I and subsequent conflicts, but also to mark a defining event for national identity. The battle of Gallipoli against ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Mark A Gregory, Associate Professor, School of Engineering, RMIT University The telecommunications industry faces a major shakeup following the release of the post-incident report on last November’s 12-hour Optus outage. Telecommunications companies will have to share more information with customers during future ...
Welcome to The Spinoff Bookseller Confessional, in which we get to know Aotearoa’s booksellers. This week: Eden Denyer, bookseller at Unity Books Auckland.Weirdest question/request you’ve had on the shop floorA mother came in looking for anything we might have on Alaskan bison as that was her little boy’s ...
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Significant events in New Zealand History – South African Rugby Tour 1981
Over the last few weeks we have been catching snippets of news replays and interviews with various high profile people who were around in 1981 (including Kathryn Ryan’s interview with Kumi Naidoo) and simply cannot believe Joky Hen’s stated detachment from and disinterest in issues at the time – particularly given he was apparently at University – where issues were in your face!
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2493317/feature-guest-kumi-naidoo.asx
Yep. I am John Key’s age and was at University at the same time although at Auckland. I can tell you what I was doing during most of the games and which protests I attended (almost all).
There are two possibilities for Key’s statement:
1. He is suffering major medical problems with his memory,
2. He is lying.
Links please to back up your claims.
To back up what??
You’ve claimed “He is suffering major medical problems with his memory,”
You must have some evidence to support a major accusation like that or you wouldn’t have made a public statement.
Read my comment SS. I listed it as a possible explanation, the other one being that Key is telling fibs.
So you have absolutely nothing to support your option 1?
SS
None whatsoever. For me I think option 2 is the likely explanation, that is Key is fibbing.
Remarkable. Just making things up.
Has the English language changed overnight? I was proposing two possibilities to explain a phenomenon and you are claiming that I maintained one was true?
Tell me SS do you get paid by CT per post here or do you get a bonus for the especially inane ones?
SS,
I was living in Holland at the time (being Dutch and all) and I remember what I was thinking about NZ and the South African Rugby tour! That’s how big it was. For John not to remember is incomprehensible!
SS/Pete, it’s very simple. It stretches the imagination somewhat that a man of Key’s age has trouble remembering his stance on the events of the 1981 Springbok Tour. Even I can remember it and I was three and a half at the same time and all it looked like to me was a bunch of big blue blokes with moustaches hitting people on the telly. So I think it’s safe to conclude that Jonkey is obfuscating.
As for a serious medical problem with his memory, do you really have that flimsy a grasp of basic sarcasm or are you intentionally trying to clog up yet another thread with inane concern trolling?
Concern trolling – concerns about something that happened thirty years ago that has no relevance now?
Good trolling, SS – besides the obvious parallels regarding the RWC and Fiji, or indeed a lack of concern about free trade with nations that practise child or slave labour, the fact is that Key’s lack of memmory sums him up nicely.
He would rather claim senility than admit to having an actual opinion about some of the most notable events in NZ’s recent history.
We will get the economy to grow at 4%
It is inconceivable that anyone of reasonably sound mind that was around in ’81 does not recall what their opinion on the tour was, especially whilst attending a hothouse of ideas and events such as universities were in that pre ‘bums on seats’ era.
It is conceivable 30 years later though that someone i.e. Shonkey, might not want to publicly express that opinion in light of todays views on racism etc. and risk the smile and wave narrative. What a slippery character.
Hmm, what’s he hiding?
Yeah this is one that has not gone away for Key, possibly because there are still thousands of us left that personally experienced the tour. Like Micky I spent weeks at meetings, marches and police stations that winter, and know that it is just NOT possible even for those on the sidelines to not have had an opinion.
Really who cares if Shonkey had some weasel position on it, the issue is the credibility of the PM of this country.
TM
It is possible for someone not to have an opinion if the person on the ‘sidelines’ is a narcissist. Such as is John (me) K(me)y.
especially whilst attending a hothouse of ideas and events such as universities were in that pre ‘bums on seats’ era.
I doubt that Key was a thinker and debater of any seriousness when he was a student. If he was, he’s certainly changed his habits now.
To judge from his public utterances on international affairs, he reads little and thinks less.
Saw this faux pas? The ass finds it difficult to tell the difference. “Confused” was quite a polite euphemism for fkd up.
“A Government spokesperson says the prime minister confused advice about Nakarawa not being on the team list, with the list of people who are banned from travel here, including serving army officers.”
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/80184/no-softening-of-nz-policy-mccully
NO new taxes read my lips
3 He didn’t care and had other more pressing things to think about – his own advancement.
Squirrel – This might help the discussion
Sorry to repeat myself M/S but as I have said on Standard before ,Key seems to have a drink problem. All the symtons are there .Loss of memory, the stupid grinning and hand flaping plus the flounting around and acting the fool. Just take note off the times he photographed with a drink in his hand, Helen always had fruit juice thats why she was so articulate , not like the buffon we are burdened with now.
Would votes be gained for him and his image enhanced by stating that he was anti-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged by stating he was anti-tour? Well, his image would be damaged in the eyes of a percentage of national voters.
Would votes be gained and his image enhanced if he stated he was pro-tour? No.
Would votes be lost and his image damaged if he stated he was pro-tour? Well, his image would definately be damaged.
Let’s face it. He wasn’t anti-tour. He has indicated this quite strongly.
But if he was to state that overtly, then how would he explain his support of government policy towards Fiji?
Meanwhile, I’m willing to believe that he was essentially disinterested…neither pro nor anti…out the loop…too wrapped up in his own $$$ concerns to have the tour play a role as a ‘marker’ for memory.
And again, he can’t state that for obvious reasons of image.
So his only option, insofar as he relies on image to translate into votes is avoidance
Not sure that it’s about votes to be honest Bill. I reckon it’s about self image pure and simple.
He hates to be on the ‘wrong’ side of things, so ‘forgets’, or avoids confronting, examples of that being the case.
Other examples include not showing up for Melissa Lee on by-election night; refusing to state why Worth was forced out of parliament; his comments on mine safety. etc.
Much of his rhetorical wrigglyness is for votes, and much of it seems to be based on not really being on top of shit, but some of it, to my eyes at least, looks like cognitive dissonance working its magic.
He hates to be on the ‘wrong’ side of things, so ‘forgets’, or avoids confronting, examples of that being the case.
How much cash did Key accept from the Brethren?
No No, he ‘didn’t read the email’
Maybe he, like a number of people at the time, couldn’t care less
Yes I know the 81 tour was the pinnacle achievement for most of you and that you all like to relive your “glory days” of standing up to “the man”
But just because it was (and by the sounds of it still is) the most importent thing in your life doesn’t mean its importent to everyone
normal for doubters like you to downplay the glorious history of prior battles 🙂
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Oh no I very much know the value of history as it teachs us so much but this is just a bunch of middle age lefties reliving past glories
Its simply passing on the lessons mate, to a new generation which must do the fighting now. Anyways, haven’t you ever had a nice reminisce with old fight buddies over a few beers 🙂
Only on ANZAC day, if you keep living in the past it colours your future
chris73
Just take a little time out and listen to the radionz link posted at the top of this thread and you will, perhaps, understand just how important the events around 1981 were to the struggle within South Africa.
Not a victory for New Zealanders, but a major contribution towards a victory over oppressed peoples.
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
What it also exposes, of course, is the shallowness of the subsequent “apologies” from the RFU and many of its ardent supporters here in New Zealand. Hope you were too young to be involved in 1981, otherwise your comments speak volumes about you…
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful to hear our current PM being able to say he was proud to have been part of that movement for change, instead of expressing indifference and trying desperately to come up with an explanation for his position.
No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude that would have pleased the middle-class and middle-aged liberals
And as for change just exactly how much better off is South Africa now?
Higher unemployment, weaker dollar, higher crime levels
Yeah change is a good thing all right
^ A Kruger-Randian superhero.
@ Nat Brown Noser 73: South Africans still have some chance at least to sort their society out via the ballot box which was not possible under the Apartheid system.
The SA democratic change unfortunately occured during the height of Reaganism and Thatcherism which made it majorly harder.
turning a distinct lack of character into something to be admired eh?
Have to agree there. No sooner than Mandela was let out he embraced neo-liberalism and privatisaton all the way.
Yes, He was a great man who never lost hope and evenutally achieived his aim, but the neo-liberalism in my mind will always seem like an asterisk to me.
Millsy,
a reading of the original ANC Freedom Charter shows clearly that it was a national liberation movement, not necessarily an anti captialist or anti US corporate movement. That is why a number of people in the NZ anti apartheid and local anti racist movement in 1981 suggested looking at the programme of the PAC (Pan African Congress) and other left groups.
The poor buggers assumed fledgeling parliamentary democracy at the worst of times when neo liberalism was at it’s height.
“No, I appreciate his honesty as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude….”
Let’s break this down:
“No, I appreciate his honesty “- ….”I can’t remember” is not an honest answer, he’s not old enough to begin losing his memory yet, it’s an evasive answer.
“as he could easily have said some mealy-mouthed platitude”- he did. and he does, over and over and over again.
What is wrong with you Chris 73 ?????
Going against the grain slightly, I’m picking that apartheid would have eventually come to an end, tour or not. Depriving over 70 percent of the population of political representation and civil rights was unsustainable.
It was important to many more people than you like to believe, Chris! (Such as my late brother who was in his teens at the time) and I…
Logie, I love Jokey hen…ultimate anagram. Well done, the f**ker doesnt deserve a monicker derived from something as benign as a chicken.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/rebekah-brooks-kemp-bryant
“Shut up, you homophobic cow”
An insight into the happy marriage of Rebekah Brooks and Ross Kemp.
Posted by Duncan Robinson – 08 July 2011 12:49
The Evening Standard yesterday interviewed Chris Bryant about his tireless efforts to investigate phone-hacking. This, understandably, annoyed Rebekah Brooks (nee Wade). Here’s Bryant’s version of his last meeting with Rupert Murdoch’s favourite seemingly Teflon-coated, flame-haired executive:
“She came up to me and said, ‘Oh, Mr Bryant, it’s after dark — shouldn’t you be on Clapham Common?”
“At which point Ross Kemp [the ex-EastEnders actor and her then husband] said, ‘Shut up, you homophobic cow’.”
Whether or not Kemp continued with “Leave it, you slag. He’s not worth it,” Bryant does not say.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/rebekah-brooks-kemp-bryant
Interesting, Morrissey!
I just found back some interesting links and thought to put them here for those of you curious about what really happened on 9/11 and how come the airspace was unprotected for more than 1.5 hours.
This is a video of Former Sen. Mark Dayton who wants to know why and how it was possible nobody was fired for the fact that the US airspace was unprotected for such a long time and he asks about the lies of the FAA and NORAD during 4 separate hearings.
This is a link to a radio presentation made by Robin Hordon who is a former FAA air traffic controller and core member of pilots for 911 truth who spells out the 50 year old protocol for dealing with in flight emergencies and hijackings which was violated four times that day.
Is Key becoming another arrogant politician? He said changing the Parliamentary oath of allegiance is not something he’s considered so it is not likely to change any time soon.
He will ignore the people and make his own decision? This is very poor from him, one of his weaknesses. He’s done this before, including jumping to rule out CGT.
He’s in danger of becoming just another politician too obsessed with his own opinion and power.
John Key pledges to not listen.
Nope, he’s always been an arrogant arse-hole obsessed with his own opinion and power.
Sounds like a Labour MP, maybe hes in the wrong party?
Nope, those are necessary pre-conditions for belonging to NAct. To belong to a leftish party requires that you do have concern for others.
More likely hes thinking theres more importent things to worry about
Yep like how to improve the spelling ability of RWNJs.
That’s such an odd thing for you to say given that ‘his own decisions’ are whatever the National focus groups like the sound of.
Further on Christchurch and the thinking on its progress and difficulties. On Chris Laidlaw this morning Radionz see below. This guy Regan Potangaroa is very clear headed, looking for a real understanding of what is needed, and sounds like a problem solver with good human values. A person to respect and listen out for when he makes comment. Also this group Engineers without Borders group sounds as if they are practical thinkers with minds open to finding solutions that work for people.
10:06 Regan Potangaroa – Engineering Change
For nearly 15 years, Dr Potangaroa has been involved in humanitarian aid and post disaster work in places such as Haiti, Sudan, Pakistan and Indonesia. More recently he has been working in Christchurch and he talks to Chris about humanitarian engineering – applying engineering principles directly to helping people hit by poverty and disaster, by providing clean drinking water, roads and houses. He also has a few things to say about building a better, fairer Christchurch, and taking care of the poorer parts of town where the most vulnerable people live.
Dr Regan Potangaroa is an Associate Professor at the School of Architecture at Unitec Auckland. He is attending this weekend’s Engineers without Borders NZ conference at Auckland University.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker. It is an illustration of why it is important to have informed people that aren’t in the NZ buddy loop so we can get unbiased views to help us evaluate how things are going on down here in Aotearoa.
Interesting how Chris Laidlaw felt bound to make positive comment about Mayor Bob Parker.
This is the spurious idea of “balance”. We saw it last week with Jim Mora asserting that he doesn’t want to “censor” the views of anyone—even a violent and discredited organisation like Garth McVicar’s Sensible Sentencing Trust.
But right at the end of the programme today, Laidlaw actually did something far more craven than putting in a good word for Mayor Bob. He read a ridiculous e-mail from someone who was affronted by the popular and media backlash against the saintly Rupert Murdoch. “What about Nicky Hager? He hacked into the National Party’s computers….”
Now, Chris Laidlaw is not stupid. He knows perfectly well that Hager did no such thing, and that he was leaked the information from a contact in
Bill English’s officethe National Party. The police found that there was no evidence at all of computer-hacking. Other than witless dupes like the fellow who sent Laidlaw that e-mail, the only people who say there was hacking are John Key and Don Brash, both of them notorious liars and both of them outed in Hager’s book for their secret deals with the Brethren.Yet Laidlaw still read out that letter. Once again, in case you’re horrified and mystified, it’s called “balance”.
It was the smiling assassin who had the most to gain he would have had to wait years to get another chance by then his good looks would be gone get it right.
This thing about press freedoms and competition and unfettered debate is what we hear argued for when talking about the dangers of government regulation.
So what happens – one megalomaniac tries to buy up all the newspapers and achieve a monopoly.
Then the press freedom is used to print whatever they want in a way that appeals to the most punters, no matter how it injures the subject and using whatever sleazy and unlawful means as with the phone hacking.
‘Unfettered debate’ has to be carried on under the shadow of this sort of power and so some things are left unsaid if unwanted by the now media empire.
The editors can be said to be completely free to publish without control from above, if the right person is appointed, at the right price. Then the puppet strings can be completely unnecessary or unseen.
And then there is the peculiar result of this mendacious media adopting a witch-hunting puritanical stance on sexual matters with an entirely salacious and voyeuristic zeal. They rightly say they are encouraged to do so by a public envious of those better endowed at all levels, who delight in the second-hand thrill of the ‘revelations’. When questioned one of the newspaper operatives questioned by Hugh Grant about this replied that he should have kept his in his pants. A lot of sniggers from behind. Of course the point that people’s private life should remain so, unless they do it in the street (or breach the noise controls) was bypassed in that discussion. (I think I heard the comment on today’s Mediawatch which can be played again and is also repeated at night).
NYT: The Journal Becomes Fox-ified.
It took Rupert Murdoch only three and a half years to get there, starting with the moment he acquired the paper from the dysfunctional Bancroft family in December 2007, a purchase that was completed after he vowed to protect The Journal’s editorial integrity and agreed to a (toothless) board that was supposed to make sure he kept that promise.
Fat chance of that. Within five months, Murdoch had fired the editor and installed his close friend Robert Thomson, fresh from a stint Fox-ifying The Times of London. The new publisher was Leslie Hinton, former boss of the division that published Murdoch’s British newspapers, including The News of the World.
Chin up, America.China ain’t so great.
With 64 million of these apartments sitting empty, too expensive for most Chinese to rent – artificially inflated prices keep “value” up high, which is also helpful on the spreadsheets – they’ve created the largest property bubble in history. The tiger’s paper is wearing thin.
There’s a you tube video at the link that shows these empty cities.
NB those empty cities are going to come in damn handy in 10-15 years time. I’m also betting that they are all being maintained, grass cut and windows cleaned, even as they are essentially deserted.
Oh fuck
This doesnt look good.
What the fuck are Labour doing.
What the fuck are Labour doing.
Presenting a coherent economic policy which may or may not impress those in the know but may not work on the general population.
The numbers are coarse but it seems Labour lost 7, and the Greens gained 5.
Not a good result but Labour/Green are still in it and need to raise their support.
And it is too early to be taken as evidence that the population may not like the CGT. These sorts of policies need to percolate through and the effects may take a while to appear.
Why include Mana in the equation? Mana won’t be in any Govt. any time soon.
Who gives a fuck? Off shore events with PIIGS and Tea Parties are going to send the world economy bust before thhe election, even if Shonkers wins he will be in the hot seat (plus his cash holdings will go up in flames as the banks fail).
millsy, it’s not Labour’s fault that Joe and Mary Bloggs are as thick as two short planks. Nor is it their fault J&M are politically ignorant, and take 6 months to figure out what the politically savvy can recognise in 24 hrs. My biggest fear is that Labour have left it too late to reveal their tax policies. I’m not convinced J&M will have it sorted by Nov. 26.
Hoping like hell that I’m wrong!
Ok, what I’m trying to say is a less than diplomatic version of ms at 6:32pm.
Hell, they probably havn’t worked out what CGT stands for yet. 😀
Meh the poll numbers are exactly what you would expect from phoning houses in Epsom, Remuera, Ponsonby, Takapuna, Helensville and Davenport.
Guyon Espiner’s party political broadcast on behalf of National on Thursday night TVNZ news must have helped this poll.
He said at the end of his report on Labour’s CGT announcement (where until then he had given the report in a reasonably soothing, unbiased way) that it had flaws and it would not be enough to woo national/swing voters away from national and that even some Labour voters would be lost because of it.
I rang to complain of his biased presentation, and said that I hoped this was not the beginning of the bias that I noticed from Espiner last election, where I considered that Espiner and his acolytes at TVNZ working wiith John Key and Rodney Hide were almost the sole reason there was a national victory in 2008.
I think such MSM spinners (or should I say ‘espinners’) should be outed and put in “dock’ or Murkdoch’ on the Standard everytime we see them spin for their preferred party during this election. A journalists ‘wall of shame’ where they fail to report the facts in a professionally ethical, fair,unbiased, objective manner, as they should.
It is remarkable that this poll reflects Guyon Espiner’s very ‘prophecy’. What a capable political reporter he is!?!
PS From election 08 coverage recognised the following as Nact Supporters ( I was not in the ‘know’ before): C&G Espiner, Duncan Garner and his side kick Scott somebody and possibly Tsai Tiffin, Barry Soper, Heather du Plessis Allen ,Therese Arseneau, Paul Holmes, Clare Trevett and most reporters at the Herald, particularly the Gallery. Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday. Although not a journalist, but now has a ‘column’ in the Herald, “philanthropist”Owen Glenn (mind you his actoid views do not lie well with said description of him).
I don’t mind comment or opinion when I know accurately what people stand for, but when they abuse what should be a neutral position to spin their own views, thereby subtly influencing public opinion, then it becomes propaganda and should be stamped out.
Wendy Petrie looks like she is joining this mob too from her tone and facial expreessions whist reporting on Labour’s Tax policy last Thursday.
Yes, I spotted that too seeker. In fact it’s happened several times in recent weeks. I spend more time at TV3 news because of it. TV3’s coverage on Thursday evening was fairer and more balanced than TV1. I commented to that effect here on Friday.
Btw, it’s far better to write a formal letter of complaint. Phone calls don’t even reach the right people. They’re just ignored. Worked in TV many years ago and that’s what used to happen. It won’t have changed.
Usual response to appalling poll results from the left, I see. The people are stupid. The media is against us.
Good luck with that.
And you were all so happy with yourselves this morning.
The people are stupid
Yeah… well, you’re probably one of them mate so can understand why you don’t like it.
Have you just taunted me by calling me a person?
I commented to that effect here on Friday.
ooops… no I didn’t. It was Red Alert.
Thanks Ann .I spotted your comment on Friday on Red Alert and was so pleased that someone had done just what you did. I just didn’t have time then. This type of thing really needs to be outed if we are not to be manipulated by unprofessional journalists and corporations – as Britain was for over 30years.
hear..hear.
Trouble is, the political parties seem to think they have to court the media instead of standing up to them. I was glad to see Cunliffe put Espinor in his place this morning. Goff is inclined to be too polite with him.
27%………………… bahahahahahahahah
The reality is, as pointed out on the Q&A – Kiwi workers will be looking at being up to 100 bucks a week off better under labour. With min wage, tax free zone, gst exemption off fruit and veg. The fact that the f*king stupid general public still dont get that John Key is selling their future, and their childrens future despite it being hammered out to them. In our household, its not through lack of sound and great labour policy, hate to say, but its Phil Goff. He is now too academic now to reach out to the working class – they arent listening. Cunliffe destroyed Espinar today – we hardly ever see politicians who have interviewers look as worried as that. He is RAZOR sharp, but warm and accessible…
Ok so Steven Joyce has “put Labour’s numbers through the Treasury calculator” and the REAL numbers show that (as reported by Farrar)
Thanks Stevie for clearing that up!
So I gather thats the same treasury calculator that tell us there are 170,000 jobs coming our way shortly?
Labours own numbers shower that the package became neutral in 7 years, the Nats claim its more like 12 years.
Labour did “forget” to add in intrest costs and did “assume” they could magically save $300 mil/yr in avoidance when the oppisite is logical.
10 years is propably close to the truth.
Bullshit mate, English’s numbers haven’t added up for the last 3 years, for instance where is last years promised 170,000 new jobs.
You can’t be so gullible as to believe even more made up numbers from them.
So Steven Joyce is using Govt depts for his own political ends pity they haven,t done the figures on the loss of income from asset sales as well . When you have an organization like treasury putting out stupid figures saying their are going to be a 170,000 new jobs in three years.You know their just making up stories for their neo liberal hero idols . The facts and the history don,t support this.National has been barely able to grow 30,000 new sustained jobs in 22years in govt since 1976 so nothing changes except that they have better spin doctors and a more subservant media which Joyce uses his connections with the radio works to push key the nice guy for free at every opportunity.
Micky say … “These sorts of policies need to percolate through and the effects may take a while to appear.”
So you predict a further 5% drop next poll?
I’m supprised Mickey, CV et al are not trotting out the line it is another rogue poll (number 39 in a row).
Come now, if JonKY and Blinglish actually believed these numbers were real, they would already have sold KiwiBank.
Who are you penguin’s pal and why should we treat anything you say with respect?
He could be a potential Labour voter micky, but no doubt you’ll jump to a conclusion and send him/her packing if you can. Can’t risk someone sneaking on board.
Nah not worth converting/saving/convincing the Right. Waste of effort.
Turning out the Left’s core support is where it is at.
From DPF..
» National – 53% (+1)
» Labour – 27% (-7)
» Greens – 10% (+4)
» Maori – 3% (+1.4)
» ACT – 3.1% (+0.6)
» NZ First – 2.4% (+0.8)
» United Future – 0.3%
» Mana – 0.5% (-0.4)
UNDECIDED 14-16% thanks dc
Trev will be on the phone to NY headquarters, Goff gone by Tuesday.
Back to the old leadership chestnut? Haha politics of envy and greed not doing it for you eh?
CV Goff only polled 9% and Labour 27%, so I assume 2/3rds of Labour supporters think hes not up to it. Like I said Goff gone by Tuesday.
You guys really are out of ideas.
Goff/Cunliffe/Parker is a combo up against Key/English/Brownlee that I will bet on any time mate lol
Cunliffe was in great form against Espiner this morning on Q & A
Espiner was getting in a real flap-made my day
Maybe Kiwis need and deserve 3 more years of NAct
Then there will be alot bleating
I think these polls are rigged
I know of Noone whom i know e ver being rung
but then they dont live in snob areas
Shame Cunliffe’s not the leader then – oooops
No, they will keep Goff – the plan was always to sacrifice him at this election. No matter how bad it gets they will keep him until after the election. It always takes a long time to rebuild after a party that has been controlled by a very dominant figure that polarised people, such as Muldoon or Clark – look how long it took for National to get themselves back into fully functional form following Muldoon’s demise, despite the incompetence of Labour during the 80s – it will be the same for Labour.
Prime Minister Phil Goff 🙂
Man you guys are all out of ammo already, recycling old memes from Q1 haha
Um, I think Phil’s the one being recycled…
I have two words for you:
Darth Brash
Ha – it might surprise you to know that I consider Brash an idiot – a Polite idiot tho’, as opposed to Mrs Harawira’s little boy who is simply a Rude idiot.
But my point is solid regarding Goff – he is just (and justly) cannon fodder while Cunliffe and Little complete their backroom manoueveurs.
Meh more recycled talking points. Meanwhile, Key is already one foot out the door, English has to be sweet talked to give the top position over to Joyce and he won’t like that one bit.
MR BURNS
Pp bet you $1000 Goff stays until the election. do you accept?
Micky, I’ll bet you $1000 that Labour is not in government after the election.
Do you accept?
I thought someone like you would have said lunch time. But as they say a week in politics is a long time if the economy keeps dragging along the bottom Europe or the US crashes and or the All Blacks loose.Maybe a Murdoch moment happens here don,t count your chooks before they hatch they might just come home to roost just like a large Deb,t .Aye happy feet!
Meh
Colmar Brunton Poll August 2011.
Leading news today Labour up FOUR POINTS. Voters have reacted positively to Capital Gains Tax with National falling dramatically five points. The greens have fallen back to 8% and Winston Peters is in great shape up 0.1%. National will be very concerned about these numbers. Just last month we reported on a dramatic 7 percentage point fall for Labour and now they’re looking better.
Gingercrush:
In your dreams.
Hardly my dream. Just can’t get excited about a poll that will rebalance itself next time.