“Putin is a genius and his ambitions reasonable, except now a day later he’s done something crazy and so egregious even I can’t defend him and is probably going to be removed from power. Here’s a tedious suck eggs history lesson for you all to explain why ...
Strawman alert, I nor do I imagine do most believe Putin is a ‘madman’, he’s not he’s a tyrant. Of course there’s a divergence between the Western and Russian narratives… If you want to tie yourself in nots to act an an apologist for a tyrant whilst ...
You keep repeating the words peaceful co-existence and Marshall with engaging with the question I’m asking. How is ‘peaceful co-existence’ possible if Putin’s real problem is Eastern European countries being free, democratic and self determining. What ...
“How any progressive can justify or agree with Putin is beyond me.” The people agreeing with him aren’t progressives. This kind of left have always existed, Orwell wrote about them extensively. There’s no Soviet Union to defend any longer so they’re left ...
Yeah, all those years ago when I standing in central London as a steward watching 1m people march passed me all that went through my head was how much I loved GWB. You Tankies really are shameless…and clueless.
Pure whataboutery and moral relativism. Your kind of left are like cockroaches, no matter what happens a few of you survive pumping the same bs. If Orwell was reincarnated the only difference he’d note is you’ve thankfully shrunk in number. Btw, are you ...
If Putin’s issue isn’t really NATO but the presence or potential presence of functioning liberal democratic nations on Russia’s borders, I still don’t see how what your proposing solves that fundamental problem. What does Putin get from this deal? Ukraine ...
I’m quite sure why I’m expecting anything reasonable out of someone with Stalin avatar, but hey… As I’ve already said to you, let’s accept those promises were made. Does that bind all NATO members for all time?What about the aspirations of nations who have...
And what benefit was that? Seriously, it’s not like it’s a mystery, people in those countries have explicitly stated why they wanted to join and what they felt may happen if they didn’t. Ukraine’s democracy is deeply flawed, but it’s clearly superior to ...
“regional strength & security via relinquishing imperial aspirations” Please explain how that works? The regional strength and security is dependent on dominating the region, so what does that mean for various countries independence self determination? We ...
That’s exactly it, but I’m hoping where he’s massively miscalculated is that he’s gone too far for Western leaders to keep pretending the wet bus ticket approach is reasonable or works. There’s always been scores of non military options that could have had...
If only there were history lessons as to where that kind of approach gets us.
I could be wrong, but I believe he really expects the West to back down. They’ve not meaningfully stood up to him in past, he’s assumed they will blink this time as well.
Utter utter nonsense. The Baltic states were banging on the door pleading to be let in, why do you think that was? If you’re saying they and other parts of Eastern Europe just need to suck it up, abandon any pretence of self determination and learn to live...
After years of craven appeasement (for instance wtf was RT ever doing on West TV screens, it’s not a new channel and it’s staff aren’t journalists, it’s the propaganda arm of a dictatorship) now that there’s finally been steps taken that may actually ...
This is true, but the appeasement applies to a lot more than just NATO membership and I don’t think anyone comes out looking too good. Germany have been pathetic regarding Russian gas, Britain has shamefully turned a blind eye over oligarchs money. One ...
What exactly is your point, that our case rate or death will catch up with the US or UK? Because if it’s not (and there’s no credible evidence to suggest it will) then we’re still doing waaaay better than most other countries.
I would love to see Chomsky sit down with someone from Baltic states and ask ‘Why is NATO expanding to the borders of Russia’ as they’d be able to give a simple answer as to why they were banging on the door, pleading to be let in. Chomsky fails to mention...
You can see a version of it any time you like on Fox, but then admitting similarities between the so called ‘anti imperialist’ left and US nationalist right on Putin and Russia is somewhat inconvenient isn’t it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/the-world-shuns-pariah-putin?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Maybe as horrendous as this is for Ukraine that it proves to be the moment when appeasement finally ends. No serious person can pretend any longer that all ...
So if Russia was a state that was democratic, respected human rights and the rule of law, had a free press, we’d be where we are today? seriously? That’s just an argument for ‘we should appease tryrants for balance and screw whoever gets trampled under ...
Ok, for sake of argument let’s assume it did. Are you saying James Baker had the authority to override the aspirations of millions of people for all time? Are you saying that all those Eastern European nations only joined NATO under duress and had this ...
Absolutely. If Russia was a democracy with a free press, respected human rights and the rule of law, didn’t murder and jail dissidents, kill journalists etc etc, does anyone seriously think we’d be hearing anything about NATO being a ‘threat’?
No it doesn’t, but it would make claims they’re essentially a bunch of neo Nazis somewhat lacking in credibility.
I understand that, but it’s important to note that many of the people criticising you or essentially defending Putin aren’t doing so over any issue whether what you propose ‘works’ they have entirely different concepts of ideal ends, both over this and ...
So just so we’re clear, you see both NATO’s actions Kosovo and Russia’s in Ukraine as ‘invasions’ and morally equivalent? I’m not try to put words in your mouth just seeing if we can tease something coherent out of your anti Western ramblings, but because ...
So are great powers allowed a ‘sphere of influence’ and to crush the aspirations of those within it or not? The problem with your whataboutery is it makes your argument even more confusing.
Being a Putin apologist is left wing? Maybe someone should tell Trump and the crown at American Conservative.
No, but given you’re saying Ukraine should and that they should also surrender I presumed you had some concept of Putin’s actual agenda and a coherent argument. Apologies if I was mistaken.
Aside from empathetic words can you give some concrete examples of what she could and should have done, given that mandates we’re considered correct and appropriate and aside from those who who medically couldn’t anyone unvaccinated was in that position by...
Ah bless. One of the reasons I’m so keen on the idea of free speech is you get the entertainment of lots of unintentional comedy. Yes of course, our public health measures are just like 1930s Germany. I well remember reading about the anti Nazi protest ...
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