> I think that one was the figures from somewhere in the government and the other was the Unicef estimates based on published data. The key point is that they are different measures of poverty. 150,000 is absolute poverty ('material hardship'). 290,000 is ...
(Afterthought:) Patricia, do you actually believe that this Govt will achieve any of the three targets Ad lists above? If so, which one and how will they do it?? A.
> Why the degree of disenchantment is so marked when PM Ardern has put her reputation on achieving these goals, I’m not sure. Goals are no guarantee of performance. Look at how Kiwibuild is going. A.
This seems reasonable. A.
WTF You are saying that "putting child poverty targets into law" is "actually eliminating child poverty"?? A.
For another example, see e.g. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/109102908/mental-health-and-addiction-inquiry-vague-in-parts-and-needed-to-deliver-more-to-provide-meaningful-help... "In 2017, Mental Health Commissioner Kevin Allen appeared before a ...
But you can hardly expect people to be super impressed until you actually start implementing the plan. A.
Before this Christmas?? You're a bit hopeful A. PS This is not the kind of Government that would cap rents on private rentals
The discussion is a bit light on facts. There are already a bunch of trans women in male prisons in NZ. See e.g. https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/88680844/doublebunking-arrangements-for-trans-prisoners-are-under-review. At present they are ...
Wasn't in this year's Budget, will it be in the next? A.
Measures, targets and strategies leave no one better off except bureaucrats. Actual action on the ground helps people. My point is that the action could have been taken before (instead of?) passing the Bill. A.
Tinfoil hat time A.
> I did not claim that “kiwi kids” are better off. After a year and a bit of Labour-led Government, Kiwi kids are not better off? Is what you're telling me. Ad, do you agree with Drowsy on this? A.
I am curious about what will be discovered A.
So, Drowsy, after a year of a Labour-led Government, how are "Kiwi kids" (as you describe them) better off? A.
> National apparently ‘awoke’ to the poverty problem a little over a year ago, when the former PM made some ‘serious’ commitments during the election campaign I believe English was always more compassionate than Key A.
Interesting Sounds like a bit of a balls up if true Was there not time between the election ane the inauguration of the incoming Govt to sort all these matters? A.
Who would be a subbie? Myself I dont let accounts go more than a few weeks in arrears. I know not everyone has this luxury though A.
Its been full on since late Nov. There is something scheduled just about every day. Kids are getting frazzled A.
Drowsy - how did we get to where?? A.
(slightly underwhelmed look) A.
Strategies and targets are all very well, but don't feed or house kids. For that you need actual money in the families' hands. If the goal was to put money in the families' hands, this could have been done this year without bothering with the Bill. A.
> New Zealand doesn’t have allies, it only has interests Yes we do have allies, as I just pointed out. A.
A problem shared is a problem doubled A.
> We are being drawn in to take sides alongside our “traditional allies,” supposedly on the basis of common values And that is what we should do (short of sending substantial amounts of troops to fight in other peoples' wars). Who would ever have thought ...
At the end of the day it is just one little website at the bottom of the world A.
> then what’s stopping the so-called grown ups in the room from getting up off their arses and striking too? Does this not already happen? I thought there were climate change protests in NZ from time to time. A.
> So I just ignore James’s comment ‘assuming someone bred with you.’ Exactly! You got it. For bonus points, ignore all James' comments. A.
This pretty much describes Bill's posts A.
> This is not a safe place to make one’s points. When has the Standard ever been sold as a safe place? A. [lprent: It has always been 'sold' as a place for robust debate. That severely limits how 'safe' it can be made. ]
> NZ womens’ sport may be ‘great’ entertainment/recreation, but is it carbon neutral? I don't care!! A.
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