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Written By: - Date published: 7:15 pm, November 3rd, 2008 - 25 comments
Categories: election 2008, polls - Tags: ,

Watching the TV3 debate and it seems they’re running another text poll. It’s too early yet to tell who’s going to win, but what’s the bet the text poll favours the party whose voters are wealthy enough to:

a) be at home on a weekday evening,

b) own a cellphone, and

c) be in a position to piss away money on a phone poll?

I’d wager $20 the text poll will go to National regardless of the outcome of the debate.

25 comments on “Text polls”

  1. you’re one of those fat cats with $20 to wager, eh Tane?

  2. Dan 2

    Asking for a text poll is throwing out any notion of an objective poll. Why do they do it?

  3. Tane 3

    I’ve put $200 on Clark at Centrebet too. Here’s hopin’.

    I’ve whacked this post down below your fact-checkin’ post – this is a whinge, yours serves a purpose.

  4. Chris G 4

    No doubt the text poll will go national. TAB odds would be $1.10 for the reasons you cited Tane.

  5. Not so sure lads… A number of us are using OUR OWN MONEY to participate.
    We are all getting “could not fetch content” when selecting John.. Two friends have texted Helen and had no problems… No doubt somebody will claim conspiracy, personally I don’t really give a fig.. [I got that error message too. SP]
    campbell was his usual flappy armed idiot..
    You can just imagine him on a first date:
    One hour in and he pauses momentarily and says to his date.. “Gosh, I have been talking about myself for an hour. Must stop and let you talk about me for a while..”

  6. Chris G 6

    I love it how the question was: ‘Who won the debate?’ send in your texts, after about 10 minutes in to the debate. Considering there was about an hour to go, how you can possibly have a winner by that stage is beyond me….

    Besides, the people texting in will already be decided voters, what a farce and a lame idea by TV3. poor call.

  7. toad 7

    Pity there is not a “Russel Norman” option. I would vote for him!

    TV3 should not have bowed to Key’s and Clark’s demands to keep other party leaders out.

  8. chris they are donating the profits to PLUNKET.. great idea.

  9. Any word on which way that poll went or must we wait until Nightline?

  10. mike 10

    “b) own a cellphone,”

    I thought all the labour supporters could not afford land lines and had cell phones which is why the polls are all wrong – very confusing

  11. poll closes at ten, results at eleven..

  12. Janet 12

    I tried several times to vote for Helen and got the error message each time.

    Wierd comments from the panellists. Jenny McManus from the right definitely doesn’t like Key, thinks Act is going to win the election, and doesn’t think people care about climate change. Jon Johannsen just wants to be on the winning side whatever it is, and Linda Clark who has never been a friend of the left thinks that the campaign is already over.

    But Helen had that nice scarlet Napoleon ‘don’t mess with me’ jacket on. She should wear it more.

  13. Matthew Pilott 13

    Barns – I had a great mental image of JC on a date after reading that, thanks!

    I got no response whatsoever. (edit – no response from the poll – I wasn’t on a date with Campbell)

    Although I don’t really meet criterion c. Or was it b…

  14. Dan 14

    I remember Jenni as a spirited music teacher way back. I prefer her music to her political leanings. However, her derision of Key tonight was to me one of the highlights of the after-match function. The reality is, if Key gets in with any margin at all, he will be “gone by lunchtime”, and English and his cronies (including Douglas) will sneak in the back door.
    Scary times.
    I am hoping that my totally subjective, amateur polling is correct, that although the Nats have risen in some areas (male, blue collar), they are gradually sliding back in family, female and thinking groups!!!

  15. had enough 15

    Yes we need a National Government so that the Pacific and Maori people don’t work in the factories, but they own the factories.

    Then they can vote in the polls

  16. Tane 16

    Is John Key proposing to give Pacific and Maori people factories? Because last time National were in power Pacific unemployment reached 28% and Maori unemployment 25% while their real wages declined. That’s hardly a solid basis for a community to build its wealth. Sorry mate, but empty ambition doesn’t cut it.

  17. NeillR 17

    Tane, what an utterly condescending statement to make about Pasifika people. So they couldn’t own factories based on their own efforts, but would only attain them through being “given” them. Have a think about the underlying message that you are putting out there and you’ll begin to see why Pasifika is leaving Labour in droves.

  18. Scribe 18

    Mike,

    I thought all the labour supporters could not afford land lines and had cell phones which is why the polls are all wrong – very confusing

    Great point. I was thinking the same as I read the post.

    Dan,

    The reality is, if Key gets in with any margin at all, he will be “gone by lunchtime’, and English and his cronies (including Douglas) will sneak in the back door.

    If you say it enough, I’m sure someone will believe you. Not anyone who has any political awareness, though.

  19. Scribe 19

    By the way, poll went 70-30 for John Key.

  20. DD 20

    Bill sat opposite me on a small plane from Dunedin to Christchurch some years ago. He kicked me continuously in the shins as he stretched his legs. He did not apologise once, or make an attempt to stop kicking me, despite what he was doing being very obvious not just to him and me but also to my husband sitting next to me. That man has no charm.

  21. DD 21

    Oops, my comment is supposed to be with Fact checkin’ round 2

  22. Vinsin 22

    Yes, the poll was a landslide for Key really but I don’t think that comes as a surprise for anyone. One point that i think SP forgot to mention is that a lot of people don’t watch TV via the usual means anymore, I myself didn’t get to watch the debate till around 11ish – it was pointless to even try to stream it live.
    These are people that i would probably put in the left-leaning – possibly Labour voting – category, and so of course the text poll isn’t going to be anywhere near a fair representation of what’s really going on. But the scary thing is how the text poll will be used as some sort overwhelming proof that, “Nz needs a fresh government,” or, “NZ wants change,” or whatever other National slogan you can care to think of. I bet that’s how it’ll play in the Herald and on Duncan Garners segment on tv3.

  23. Scribe 23

    One point that i think SP forgot to mention is that a lot of people don’t watch TV via the usual means anymore, I myself didn’t get to watch the debate till around 11ish – it was pointless to even try to stream it live.
    These are people that i would probably put in the left-leaning – possibly Labour voting – category…

    So Labour voters don’t have landlines or TVs.

    I think you’ll find a lot of right-leaning — possibly National voting — people aren’t home from work before 8pm, so wouldn’t have watched the debate either. I left work “early” to get home to watch it. I needn’t have bothered.

    [and who do you think is more likely to be working the evening shift at a factory, cleaning offices, working in supermarkets etc when the debate was on? SP]

  24. Vinsin 24

    No, that’s not what i said, i said “a lot of people don’t watch TV via the usual means,” what i am inferring is that they prefer to watch TV via the internet. I’m sure some right leaning people do the same but I would hazard a bet that most would be left-leaning.

    “I left work “early’ to get home to watch it.”

    I waited till the Tv3 website wasn’t swamped with people trying to watch it. This is a difference in watching behavior that is never talked about or taken into account with text polls or phone polls.

  25. Scribe 25

    [and who do you think is more likely to be working the evening shift at a factory, cleaning offices, working in supermarkets etc when the debate was on? SP]

    I know, Steve. I was just trying to point out that trying to characterise who’s watching and who’s not watching, who’s texting and who’s not texting, as a futile, unscientific exercise.

    I put no stock in the text poll. It’s a waste of time, but glad to see Plunket — which has suffered somewhat under Labour — will get plenty of money.

    Surprised we haven’t heard some conspiracy theorists spinning that line somewhere.

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