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Comment Privacy and fools

Written By: - Date published: 12:04 pm, December 19th, 2011 - 94 comments
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Readers of this site are probably aware that I think Cameron Slater is a technological idiot. Well he has just proved it again.  There was a comment on our site referring to some of the IP/e-mail matching going on at another site recently which I’m quite irate about. Slater immediately jumped to the wrong conclusion, probably because he is known to datamatch private information himself and assumes everyone else has his low ethical standards.

A week or so ago, one of our commentators was having gossip spread around the Labour camp that they were one of our authors. Like all possible security breaches on this site I investigated because if it came from this site it would violate our privacy provisions (and I’d have someones guts for garters).

I contacted the two people concerned and established the following:-

  • The only network link between the two individuals was that they often had the same access point to the net, including the same IP number.
  • One used a valid e-mail address with their name,  and the other used an anonymous g-mail account.
  • All of our editors (who are the only people who can see IP numbers on this site) also either knew the real identity of our author, or definitely knew that it was not the commentator.
  • The only way that these two people could have been matched was by matching an IP to an e-mail at a site, and then jumping to erroneous conclusions.
  • There are only two sites where that could happen where both the e-mail address and common IP would have been in use.

If it had been The Standard that the leak had happened at, then the correct person would have been outed –  not the commentator that got defamed. I am sure of where the breach of privacy happened, and it was not at this site. I am also sure of which site that the security breach happened at.

I immediately contacted two of the operators of the other blog site and informed them of the security breach at their site. I also told them that I was furious about it  and that they’d better clean up their act pronto. Subsequently I’ve also become aware of other possible instances of privacy breaches at that site fitting a similar pattern.

As a sysop, I’m acutely aware of the dangers to the site of having any breaches in privacy. Consequently so are all of the editors on the site. Commenting on political sites involves a great deal of trust on the part of commentators about the use of their information like e-mail addresses and IP numbers. That is why we have an explicit  privacy policy that says what information may be used for.

Privacy

We do not disclose any information to third parties. This includes what you add to your profile that is not public on the blog. In particular your real name and e-mail. Similarly if you are not logged in and enter a comment, we do not disclose the e-mail you enter on your message.

E-mail addresses are only used by the sysop or moderators if they need to contact you. This will usually be because of your behavior or other peoples behavior to you on the blog. Sometimes it will be used if we’re really interested in something you wrote.

IP’s are only used when looking at moderation and banning. We will often look to see other pseudonyms have been used by the same person on this site. Very useful when dealing with repeat offenders.

What you write in comments, your name/pseudonym and website is public and will be visible to anyone who reads the site. That is far more than the number of people who comment. Don’t write something that you’d be ashamed of in 20 years because it will probably still be visible. Better yet, don’t use your real name – use a pseudonym.

In a large part this statement is because of fools like Cameron Slater who show no respect for the privacy of people. He regularly attempts to ‘out’ our authors and even commentators (and invariably fails) and doesn’t even have a policy statement about privacy on his site. Neither does a similar fool on the site that leaked the the incorrect information.

I’d advise people to never put comments on sites that lacks a privacy policy that is explicit about what information may be used for.

94 comments on “Comment Privacy and fools”

  1. Uturn 1

    “…Don’t write something that you’d be ashamed of in 20 years because it will probably still be visible…”

    Or alternately, write something that’ll make you laugh in 20 years because it will probably still be visible. I plan to laugh myself to death. But not in 20 years.

    By 2015 we’ll have the technology to thaw-out cryogenically frozen subjects, so I’ll be back to read The Standard from 2211.

    (The world didn’t end in 2012, we beat global warming by … nah that would be giving it away… and Cameron Slater, well he ended up … oh happy times. )

    And the funny thing about that is I had to jot a rough sum on paper to add 200 years to 2011.

  2. ghostwhowalksnz 2

    Slater was once a low grade computer operator – Databank- 20 years ago so dont give him any more IT credibility than that.

    • lprent 2.1

      Figures. He has just enough information to be really really stupid because he is unaware of his own limitations.

      That explains the pattern I see from him of low skills and high ineptness.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.1

        Paging Dr. Dunning-Kruger :)

      • Hulun Shearer 2.1.2

        That’s pretty rich coming from the bloke who cannot distinguish between the Linux Operating System, the BASH shell and the Fortune application.

        Pull your head in, Helpdesk.

        • NickS 2.1.2.1

          Stupid troll is stupid.

        • lprent 2.1.2.2

          I use linux and bash all of the time. I have no idea what fortune is. Providentially I have never needed to use it.

          Ok, lets have a talk about some of the stuff at the levels that I actually use within the last few months….. simpliest to hardest

          What would the simplest way on linux be to change the priority off a from a shell?
          What is the main problem with changing the priority of thread from pthread (on a 2.6 kernel)?
          What switches would you use in a QMake and gcc to quieten down the output to a few lines.
          If you were playing around with a fastcgi running php on apache 2.2, what are reasonable config values for the fastcgi for a site of this number of page views (~530k last month) with a quad processor and why?
          If you were playing around in a windows window and you required paint messages to be deferred, what is the easiest way to do it even if you have multiple messages in the queue.
          How would you handle the severe limits on the numbers of event that can be passed to a MsgWaitForMultipleEvents in a single thread.
          If you had to set up a c or c++ plugin for php5, how would you convert a string from the PHP to a std::string?

          Basically you sound like some kind of idiot because you’re talking about word definitions rather than actual problems. That isn’t even noob level.

          • Hulun Shearer 2.1.2.2.1

            “Fortune” is an old time UNIX toy that shell login scripts would call to echo a quote or aphorism to the terminal when a user first logged in.

            For those that don’t recall, Lynn “Have You Tried Turning It Off and On Again?” Prentice encountered Fortune several years ago, around about the time that his world expanded beyond Visual Basic on MS Platforms. He liked one of the quotes from the Fortune application so much that he used it for several days as a blogpost signature:

            Which he erroneously attributed, also in his blogpost signature, to “The Linux Command Line” causing much jocularity amongst those with actual technical proficiency.

            • Colonial Viper 2.1.2.2.1.1

              Stupid troll is stupid.

            • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2.2.1.2

              Sounds like you’re talking out your arse.

            • ropata 2.1.2.2.1.3

              o goody, a nerd flamewar!

              before vi or emacs (ptooie!) there was … ed

              before fortran, before any “operating system”, there was … Mel

              now get off my lawn

            • lprent 2.1.2.2.1.4

              WTF? Never programmed anything in visual basic. I have mostly done c++ since 1991. But I have programmed in just about anything. After the first 30 languages they mostly wind up as variants.

              Over the years, I have done one program in DEC basic in 1980, one in Basica in 1986, one in quick basic in 1989 (?), and one in VBScript in 2005. None were commercial, they were just exercises done for other people.

              Basic is a irritating language, but it was adequete for glue and teaching others entry programming. The 2005 exercise was to show rocky how to program on a project for a friend and the primary focus was MySQL, HTML, JavaScript and CSS 2.1. Afterwards we both shifted web app development to PHP because VBScript was awful. Mostly if I need glue code I use either shell scripts or python depending on the level.

              You are talking out of your arse.

              • lux

                Nobody at all is interested in a nerd pissing contest. Besides, everyone knows that LISP is the only True Language of Enlightenment.

                • lprent

                  Only if you wish to go past the prolog into a maze of wasted effort. Actually neither language has been particularly useful for anything I’ve ever done – imagine trying to detect trolls with them. Anyway, back to moderating.

          • Dave 2.1.2.2.2

            Haha I am so there with you, was going to do all that stuff you said, but a wheel fell off my computer and i had to kick it to get the thing to reboot.

  3. nadis 3

    What was the other site where IP/email matching was going on? I think they deserve to be outed.

  4. lprent 4

    Man Cameron is illiterate. You can see that he has never figured out what Occam’s razor is (probably thinks it is a weapon knowing him).

    So what I reckon is happening is they are getting the ip addresses of negative commenters against Shearer at The Standard and then comparing those ip addresses with comments at Red Alert in order to match email addresses from commenters. Then intimidating them to fall into line behind Team Shearer.

    Now why would anyone jump between two sites like that for. He uses wordpress stand-alone himself, so would he assume that IP numbers and e-mail addresses are stored on different sites. I guess that he can’t get a good conspiracy theory going without it.

    And wasn’t it just last week that he was saying that this site was run by Cunliffe supporters? The reality is that there were supporters of both camps amongst authors, editors, and commentators. Plus a number who like me, think that both choices had problems…

    I expect a long and vitriolic post now from Lynn Prentice decrying this post as muck-raking, but all I am doing is commenting on comments made and confirmed on his site.

    Typical Whale. Has nothing to do with the fact that he routinely lies?

    • Lanthanide 4.1

      Your constant use of the term “IP number” is making my eye twitch.

      • lprent 4.1.1

        *grin* Sorry, it is an old habit from writing code at the socket level on struct sockaddr_in. String representations are just strings for most work. The s_addr field which is the address is a 32bit number.

        • Lanthanide 4.1.1.1

          Just wait till you start dealing with IPv6! So much fun!

          • lprent 4.1.1.1.1

            Yep. Last time I played with that was 5 years ago (damn – so long!) and basically the stacks and hardware weren’t up to much except for local networks. So I dropped it and carried on with socks and various other tunneling techniques.

            This project goes through to completion by March (then we can start on the next generation). Currently the device I’m working on only has IPv4 at the driver level installed for the wifi hardware. I want to have a look at doing IPv6 at the webserver I wrote so I can do some better routing. But I’m also expanding my home office space in March (yay!) so I can start doing more code at home. So have time to play more. My current office space is too small to work in. Not enough elbow room or room for more screens.

            • Lanthanide 4.1.1.1.1.1

              IPv6 support has come a long way in the last couple of years. The exhaustion of the last class A blocks made a lot of people finally wake up.

              Still going to take a good 5 years before all this equipment that claims to support IPv6 is really properly bedded in and stable, though.

              Also the new DHCPv6 standard is mindboggling.

              • lprent

                Also the new DHCPv6 standard is mindboggling.

                Fortunately I haven’t needed DHCP that much except for the most primitive on the external router. I work in small companies or at home. But I’ll have a peek at the spec.

                I’ve set aside some time to setup my external DNS systems to IPv6 over xmas. Maybe try a secondary on bind9.

                But definitely finally retire the old windows server 2003 box which runs a mail program (MDaemon shifting to postfix + other bits), one vbscript webapp (mostly converted to PHP), and the old DNS. Less noise in the office after its old noisy fans shut down

                Finally have a DSL router that is meant to be fully IPv6 (last one was a wannabe). If that works and I can get to one of the standard’s servers as IPv6, then I’ll configure them both and work out what doesn’t work with v6 in the distro.

                That should give me the required remote test platform to test the boost::asio on IPv6. No more direct sockets for me – I keep fouling up flipping back and forth from berkeley to winsock. Holiday – what holiday?

                What is the bet that there is something missing somewhere that I can’t fix remotely?

  5. fender 5

    Oh please take that photo away, its making me feel nauseous, great editorial though.
    Surely the right are ashamed of their whale-snot dribbler.

    • lprent 5.1

      Slater wanted abuse. His photo fitted as self-abuse.

      But seriously, I was appalled when I started looking around at the sites last week that did not have any privacy policies, or where the privacy policy was ambiguous or suspect. For instance how many people knew of this gem in the privacy policy at kiwiblog.

      However those who know me will testify that I only try to screw someone over, if they have done something particularly nasty aimed at me. I’ve only twice needed to retalitate in the last ten years, so it is very hard to get onto my revenge list. The bad news is that there is no known method to get off the list, once on it

      So the bottom line in terms of privacy in browsing or commenting on this site, is that in 99.99% of all cases I will keep your personal information strictly confidential to me. However if you break the law, defame someone, or really piss me off, then you have been warned!

      I can’t imagine ever needing to be that nasty in releasing information that is private.

      If it is required then I simply ban people – permanently.

      If I disliked their actions enough then they merely get on my personal shit-list (nothing to do with the site). The only people on that are Cameron Slater and David Farrar, both for lying about my involvement with the site from 2008 onwards and for trying to attack authors on the site and managing to target civilians instead.

      Updated: For people on the shit list I just make my opinions known and why. I’m always aware that people in the net keep turning over and some don’t know why particular animosities persist.

      • Jackal 5.1.1

        I think we can conclude that Slater et al are a bunch of nasty vindictive a holes.

      • fmacskasy 5.1.2

        Hmmmm, some interesting points to consider…

        • lprent 5.1.2.1

          Yeah. This post was written a week ago and has been travelling with me since in case of need. I figured at some stage this would surface and I’d need to give a statement to protect this site from the usual bullshit artists (and Slater was top of the list).

          When I got sent the link to Slater’s post this morning, I readjusted the first paragraph and updated the second to last paragraph and put it up.

          I realise that blogs are the purview of amateurs. But surely people must be aware that having people leaving comments at all is a trust relationship that privacy is central to. I’m not exactly the nicest sysop in the world. In fact I’m a bastard sysop by intention. But there is a hell of a difference between calling someone a self-stimulating blowhard or banning them from commenting on our site as I’m known to do, and doing actions that discourage people from leaving comments at any blogsite.

          I’d suggest that other bloggers and media sites check that they have clear and viable privacy statements and thinking about what is permissible or not. Because I intend to start reviewing them critically and in public. Fits nicely into the Law Commissions review as well.

          • fmacskasy 5.1.2.1.1

            I must admit I hadn’t considered any of this. So hope you don’t mind, Lynn, and I’ve borrowed from your Privacy policy. (Bit of an irony there; pinching your privacy policy… )

            As for Slater – from what I know of the chap, I wouldn’t trust him a nanometre.

            As for his blog – it reminds me of British tabloids. I don’t get the media fascination with him.

            • lprent 5.1.2.1.1.1

              Borrow away. The first part was mine. The second part I borrowed from Anita at Kiwipolitico.

              Of course a warrant can be served to compel the information from the hosting companies. It could be difficult to extract information without cooperation though.

              • fmacskasy

                “Of course a warrant can be served to compel the information from the hosting companies. It could be difficult to extract information without cooperation though.”

                True that.

                At least that would take it out of my hands and make it someone elses’ responsibility. (It’s nice to know I’m still too small to be taken much note of, though.

              • Akldnut

                Got to love that second part.

          • CnrJoe 5.1.2.1.2

            yr so not a bastard. u the best and we’re lucky to have you mate.

    • Pundit X 5.2

      I agree with fender get rid of the photo…

  6. tc 6

    The right are ashamed of little…..look at what’s unfolding in aya-tolley’s old portfolio and the stacking of the human rights commission as a couple of examples.

    nice to see your pic caught cammy on a good day.

    • fender 6.1

      Yes it’s one of his better days but you can tell by the angle his empty fat head is on that the giant chip on his shoulder makes it hard to ballance.
      Judging by his eyes there is most likely some serious substance abuse taking place.

      • Jilly Bee 6.1.1

        Taken from an old song:

        ‘With one eye on the pot and the other up the chimney’

        Can’t remember the name of the song, but I think it was sung by Harry Belafonte many years ago.

        • logie97 6.1.1.1

          ” The Drummer and the Cook” used to feature in the 50’s on the “Broadcast for Schools” on the national programme – remember those days – ahhh
          – barefoot to school.
          – warm bottles of milk
          – bull rush
          – bike sheds
          – National Library spooled films.
          – Cinerama – “White Wilderness”
          – Danny Kaye and the Court Jester…
          – heavily chlorinated swimming pool (and foot bath).
          – blackboards
          – duster monitors

          and Slater would be too young to understand any of that.

    • David H 6.2

      Yeah no drool and snot running down his chin.

  7. drongo 7

    I reckon Slater and Odgers probably swap information, too. They’re both engaged in war so for them anything goes.

  8. randal 8

    looks like he is eyeing up one of fatboy farrars sausage rolls.
    http://www.sausageroll.com

  9. Cactus Kate 9

    Drongo
    I am happy to report my knowledge about IT extends about as far as switching the computer on. Definitely not to understanding what the fuss is about in this post and you’ll never see me posting about IT.

    • Wild Colonial Boy 9.1

      Is that Farrar speaking, or Slater ?

      I’m confused by all these aliases.

      WCB.

      [lprent: It is CK as far as I can tell from the details. CK is not particularly consistent on what e-mail address she uses, so the gravator appears frequently different. But it is from one of her known haunts where she has been leaving comments from under at least 4 e-mail addresses over the last year. ]

    • drongo 9.2

      Wasn’t referring to your knowledge of IT or you posting about it: if you wanted to look up IP addresses you could – a lack of IT knowledge is no barrier. It’s just that Cameron Slater’s open threat on his blog “Don’t mess with Whale or Cactus Kate” made me wonder what that means.

      • felix 9.2.1

        It means they’ve started a gang and there’s no adults allowed.

      • mik e 9.2.2

        a proposal of marriage possibly now that dirty old don is done its time for slippery slater to be the next alpha philanderer

    • Draco T Bastard 9.3

      Definitely not to understanding what the fuss is about in this post…

      Really? Interesting. Aren’t you a lawyer?

      • Lanthanide 9.3.1

        A lawyer of the type that arranges peoples financial affairs to avoid tax.

        • Cactus Kate 9.3.1.1

          Yawn. So what? Minimizing tax is entirely consistent with my political beliefs. It’s not like I’m doing that then campaigning for Labour.

          • felix 9.3.1.1.1

            I believe Lanth was actually providing you with a plausible reason for you apparent ignorance of what the legal implications might be.

            He wasn’t to know that you’re a nasty old lady who’d spit it back in his face like so much venom.

          • David H 9.3.1.1.2

            And about as many scruples as the center of a Polo Mint.

          • Rob 9.3.1.1.3

            Yep , only the Unite Union does that.

      • Cactus Kate 9.3.2

        Whats law got to do with it?
        It’s the Internet there is no such thing as privacy when you leave a comment on a blog FFS. What are you going to do? Run off to a lawyer like a diddums when you think your blog comments have had privacy breached? Please…
        Sysop and IP numbers? No idea what he is talking about.

    • Bored 9.4

      Madam Odgers, for you it is a little late, but that’s your choice. Your name is out there, anyone wanting to know who you are does. Your choice, and good luck.

      Long since I quizzed The Standard about the security of the email addresses they held. As an owner / shareholder / manager in a few IT concerns I was very aware that pseudonyms etc needed protection not from mendacious fools like Whale but from those who with the power to oppose viewpoints with force. In their wisdom The Standard have a very reasonable privacy stance that will make in nigh impossible for anybody to easily be able to match names with pseudonyms.

      Instead of merely reading fairy tales like Ayns nonsense homilies of individual triumph, you might consider the nature of malign regimes whose collective oppressions motivated her to write. They exist left and right as recent history demonstrates in spade loads. That The Standard will make it extremely difficult for any agency / individual to assist in the dirty work of a malign state or corporate entity is to me reassuring.

  10. Cactus Kate 10

    Lynn
    I think the giveaway honey will be that the comments are coming from a HK address. I am told you can see that.

    Farrar and Slater have been banned from commenting here to my knowledge.
    And I don’t fill in the mail thing correctly if the details haven’t been saved. I have had many different computers, iPad and phones this year. Can’t be bothered.

    Drongo
    I don’t know what it means either, I am friends with Cameron however and of course do speak to him regularly. If you actually had any friends you may understand talking to them is a byproduct of that relationship.

    [lprent: I can down to the nearest exchange unless people use anonymizers (which I can detect). However I don't look up location information unless it is relevant to the identity confirmation request.

    I will usually check new commentators with strange IP ranges to check if it is from a known spam location. Apart from that IP locations are only of interest if people claim to be from one place when I can see that is quite unlikely - in which case I may challenge them on it.

    Your choice on the gravators - it does lead to queries from others. Also the moderators have to pass at least one comment on every new e-mail address - which involves us in effort. We will start trashing "new person" comments if people appear to be abusing our time.

    Neither Farrar nor Whaleoil are banned from here. I don't think that Farrar ever has been. Whale almost certainly was for periods from when he was running trolling mobs through the comments section in 2008. ]

    • Lanthanide 10.1

      “Farrar and Slater have been banned from commenting here to my knowledge.”

      I don’t believe so. In any event, I’ve seen a few comments from Whale and maybe one from Farrar. Or at least people claiming to be them.

    • fender 10.2

      Can tell a great deal about people by the friends they have.
      You seem to imply Drongo has no friends, i doubt that your suggestion is factual but if it were I too would rather have no friends than have friends like Slater.

    • drongo 10.3

      What’s with the “If you actually had any friends you may understand talking to them is a byproduct of that relationship” stuff? Is talking like this really necessary? Why so nasty?

      • McFlock 10.3.1

        The right’s well-known graciousness runneth over.
         

        • drongo 10.3.1.1

          I was astonished to see Odgers’ and Slater’s attack on David Parker based on a deliberate blowing out of all proportion a tiny remark that appeared in the Herald – truly puerile. Says a lot, though.

        • Vicky32 10.3.1.2

          The right’s well-known graciousness runneth over.

          Those who claim to be left can be much worse! Yes, I do mean you.

          • drongo 10.3.1.2.1

            I could never in a million years write what Odgers and Slater wrote about David Parker the other day.

            • Cactus Kate 10.3.1.2.1.1

              Because you don’t have a blog Drongo. No stones behind your whining. Fran O’Sullivan made it pretty clear to even the dumbest reader what she meant.

              • drongo

                Don’t need to have a blog to write things. What do you think I’m doing now? And what’s with the nastiness? “If you actually had any friends you may understand talking to them is a byproduct of that relationship”. This sort of behaviour is simply unnecessary. And you wonder why people say things like what Jackal has just said. Do you think there might be a connection between the two?

                Interesting that you responded to the suggestion that you’ve passed on or received IP addresses to or from other bloggers to simply say you’re friends with Slater so of course you talk. Been looking up the 25 Rules of disinformation again lately, or have you memorised, or more likely, internalised every single one of them? I’ll take it back if you say categorically that you’ve never passed on or received IP addresses or other identifying information belonging to people who’ve posted on your blog or anyone elses to or from anyone, but from the tone of what you’ve been saying my guess is that you have.

          • McFlock 10.3.1.2.2

            What? Because I have an issue with homophobic misandric antichoice cultists stuck in a 50s worldview? Fair enough, then.

      • Cactus Kate 10.4.1

        Could be worse, I could be a plumber from Northland with a penchant for horse racing who thinks he is anonymous. Is that right [Deleted...RL]?

        • felix 10.4.1.1

          I hope this serves as a warning to anyone who thinks it might be worth engaging with the nasty piece of work who calls herself Cactus Kate.

          She’s been on a campaign to ingratiate herself here lately and if anyone is under any illusions about her motivation for doing so, then look no further.

          Trust me, no good will ever come of socialising with her or the Slater child. Spurn them like the rabid dogs they are.

          • drongo 10.4.1.1.1

            Wise words, felix, wise indeed. Just had another look at the 25 rules of disinformation. Odgers engages all of them, all of the time.

      • Cactus Kate 10.4.2

        Obviously being attacked by an anonymous blogger and comments here as a prick with my name doesn’t give me a right of reply using the authors real name back. Charming.
        I know precisely who the Jackal is and given the depth of bile written on his blog about others, I’d say all bets were off Lynn. [Fine. Your call...but however you want to run the odds do it on your blog. Any attempt direct or indirect at 'outing' anyone at The Standard WILL result in moderation. Please consider this a courteous warning. RL]

        On WO this am a senior Labour mp admitted he looked up the IP address of someone sending nasty comments to Red Alert, I see no issue with this behavior as far as I’m concerned all bets are off if you are to make consistently shitty comments about another person.
        I try to contribute to The Standard knowing that it is a blog in hostile territory, ignore most of the abuse received back and save anything too controversial for my own blog.
        Just saying.

        • Jackal 10.4.2.1

          I notice you put a question mark behind the name you wrote (whatever that was)… then followed up by saying you know precisely who the Jackal is… this doesn’t make much sense.

          Perhaps your need to dismiss what I write about, will only be satiated if you can objectify your own hatred Cathy Odgers. Here’s some of your advice back at ya: if you don’t like it… don’t read it.

          The things on the Jackal are not half as obnoxious as what you often write Catcus. My advice to you is that if you can’t handle it… don’t dish it out. The difference between us is that I don’t make shit up all the time to try and defame people… my writing is entirely factually based, whereas yours is a litany of lies that only the mentally deficient would believe.

          All bets are off… is that meant to be some sort of threat? As far as threats go… it’s decidedly pathetic! You’re best left in the sandpit where you belong Odgers.

          • drongo 10.4.2.1.1

            Absolutely, Jackal. Notice how Odgers, at first (and true to form) responded to the suggestion that she shared IP and other information with Slater, or other right wing bloggers, with ‘I know nothing about IT so how in the hell can I possibly do that?’ bullshit – just the same old duplicitous attempts at obscuring the truth that there are hundreds of examples of any of us could point to. Then, when backed into a corner, she either tryies to attack with irrelevant, worthless and utter bog spew, or she bolts. Given the filth and bile that come from Odgers’ and Slater’s hearts, I cannot believe that they would not share IP addresses and other identifying information for people who post comments. It would not be in their natures not to, full stop. Like I said earlier, the 25 methods to spread disinformation (or what ever it’s called – Odgers knows), Odgers has adopted as her bible to consult when responding to anything that vaguely questions her viewpoint. You’re a fucking disgrace, Odgers, nothing but a fucking disgrace.

        • fmacskasy 10.4.2.2

          “On WO this am a senior Labour mp admitted he looked up the IP address of someone sending nasty comments to Red Alert…”

          Correction;

          “On WO this am someone claiming to be a senior Labour mp admitted he looked up the IP address of someone sending nasty comments to Red Alert…”

          Glad to be of assistance.

  11. Tiger Mountain 11

    Whale has a face only a parent or paid companion might warm to. The lugubrious damaged visage is quite unsettling and awkward to look at, take it down-please….

    Whale’s junior stasi dob in club (advising how to track number plates of suspected National hoarding vandals (‘Drill it mine it etc.” ) finally erased any empathy I might of had for some buried aspect of decency in him.

    Whale might think he is an IT genius but has still failed to conclusively reveal who supplied the “Hollowmen” emails.

    • Don’t forget his great “I have Labour donors credit card details” expose.  Although I have to admit he sucked me in.  He never had the decency to be embarrassed when the truth was shown.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 11.2

      It did it for me , “exposed” me to his baying mob.
      Yes thats right he revealed my email address and the IP address .

      Big deal. I use gmail ( among others) but dont use my real name.

      The IP address had the bloodhounds slobbering , however they were too stupid to realise the ‘whois’ lookup gave the location as Boston Rd wasnt Mt Eden Prison as they thought but the location of a Vodafone server farm ( if that – it may be a spoof by Vodafone)
      Most small businesses and home users are safe as they get a random IP number ( sort of) allocated to Vodafone, Xtra etc. There may be other tricks that can be used to reveal a bit more but there are ways to avoid that ( which I try to use but I cant tell if it works).
      Avoid a anonimised IP address as they can be used by malware to infiltrate your computer

      • RedLogix 11.2.1

        Most small businesses and home users are safe as they get a random IP number ( sort of) allocated to Vodafone, Xtra etc.

        Exactly. I use several different entry points onto the net and never get the same IP address each time. And my email is a yahoo thing with no personal identifier. Only Lynn knows who I am in real life and at the end of the day it’s not all that big a deal.

        For me RedLogix has become an indentity in his own right; a sort of alter-ego who is factually based on the real me, but occupies a somewhat different personality space. That’s really the main reason why I keep him going. I tried blogging years ago under my own real name, but it never felt right for some reason.. it was as if my own ego kept getting in the way and not in a constructive fashion.

        Ultimately Lynn’s is right, it is not who you are that is important; it’s the quality of your argument that is… and pseudonyms are one way to help decouple personalities from the debate if you want it to.

        • lprent 11.2.1.1

          Only Lynn knows who I am in real life and at the end of the day it’s not all that big a deal.

          And I last saw you more than 2.5 years ago…. When I routed e-mail to you the other day I discovered it was over a year since I’d e-mailed you.

          For me RedLogix has become an indentity in his own right; a sort of alter-ego who is factually based on the real me, but occupies a somewhat different personality space.

          Lyn reckons she liked AncientGeek the best. He was nice. lprent is not so nice. And Lynn Prentice doesn’t take out the rubbish….. :twisted: They all feel like me – just different bits.

          …it is not who you are that is important; it’s the quality of your argument that is… and pseudonyms are one way to help decouple personalities from the debate if you want it to.

          Funny thing is that the personality is decoupled as ‘you’. But the alter-ego personalities shine through very strongly for people who can argue well. The thing I like about it is that I really don’t have a lot of time to do everything I need to do. This allows discussion in small bits. I have always enjoyed that all the way back to when I was queuing messages on to the BIX boards.

      • lprent 11.2.2

        …they were too stupid to realise the ‘whois’ lookup gave the location as Boston Rd wasnt Mt Eden Prison as they thought but the location of a Vodafone server farm ( if that – it may be a spoof by Vodafone)

        I think that it is just a central location for a geographical area. There are a lot of ISP’s that have their geoip’s terminate there if you aren’t careful about geographical lookups and termination points.

        Most small businesses and home users are safe as they get a random IP number ( sort of) allocated to Vodafone, Xtra etc.

        Usually either C or B level gives a good idea of if you are the same person coupled with a geoip. Depends how many other people using the same services also use the same subnet. But it becomes a probability statement rather than definitive. A couple of the ISP’s appear to randomly allocate across their whole range. But most seem to have limited addresses – probably because they’re restricted by the dslam you’re attached to by the copper.

        Avoid a anonimised IP address as they can be used by malware to infiltrate your computer

        TOR is ok, just a pain to set up and get fast connection through. Prepay tethered 3G is pretty damn good for small stuff.

        • David H 11.2.2.1

          I find that Hotspot Shield usually gives a good speed continuously, so not too bad for the “you are not a resident in this country” video streaming. and the odd HTTP Doco D/L

  12. Arthur 12

    I read the whale regularly, he reinforces my prejudices.

  13. felix 13

    Maybe Alfalfa works in the PM’s office?

  14. randal 14

    misandric alfalfa?

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    The Māori Party has to fess up over its voting record on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, says Labour’s Māori Caucus.  “It’s simply not good enough to oppose the bill at the same time  as they helped speed up its progress through...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Equal pay and the aged care sector
    Today the High Court upheld the historic ruling by the Employment Court that our Equal Pay Act could be used to consider work of equal value cases; the government has been telling the UN and ILO that it could for...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Court case perfect opportunity for Government to improve gender pay gap
    If the Government wants to halt New Zealand’s slump in international rankings on the gender pay gap it should act on the court finding that women deserve equal wages, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The World Economic Forum’s...
    Labour | 28-10
  • All Auckland transport options should be considered
    All options for meeting Auckland's transport needs should be considered, including reprioritising the transport budget away from wasteful spending on motorways, the Green Party said today.Auckland mayor Len Brown is today releasing a transport report by the Independent Advisory Board,...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Another report highlights Govt failure on child poverty
    An international report measuring the impact of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) on child poverty rates, showing children in New Zealand have done worse than children in other countries, is further proof the Government needs to urgently take additional steps...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Child poverty: No more wake-up calls
    A new report which shows the National Government has made no inroads whatsoever into child poverty should do more than just set alarm bells ringing, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “UNICEF’s  latest Innocenti Report Card highlights the fact...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Eugenie Sage speaks in the 2014 Address in Reply Debate
    I congratulate you, Assistant Speaker Mallard, as Assistant Speaker and look forward to your knowledge, your fairness, and your light touch in being a referee of proceedings in this House. I congratulate also the other Assistant Speaker, Lindsay Tisch; the...
    Greens | 28-10
  • James Shaw’s Maiden Speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Govt airs real views on public broadcasting
    An admission by the Government that it is happy to experiment with Pacific and Maori audiences shows just how weak its vision for public broadcasting in New Zealand is, Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. “National today admitted it doesn’t...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Does Judith Collins have a get out of jail card?
    Former justice minister Judith Collins appears to have been gifted a get out of jail free card based on the Prime Minister’s answers in Parliament today, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “Judith Collins claimed in an Official Information...
    Labour | 28-10
  • The Final Fifth: The Last Great Task for Progressive New Zealand.
    MOST OF NEW ZEALAND’S social problems are concentrated among those living at the margins of what is otherwise a relatively wealthy society. Recently released international data on child poverty has exposed an acutely stressed social strata encompassing roughly 20 percent...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • Myth Busting Rape Boasters
    In just one week a case that galvanised a nation into discussing rape culture is now being reframed as mischievous teen hi-jinx. One year ago the Roast Busters case came to the attention of the media and the public. This...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • Workers rights weakened by new laws – fightback needed
    The government’s changes to the employment laws are designed to weaken workers bargaining power – at both the individual and collective level.   30-day rule The old law required an employer with a collective agreement in place to employ new...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Simon Buckingham – Where are Labour Candidates on disability?
    For the few people who know me (hello Mum), I am proudly New Zealand’s first Autistic Spectrum Lawyer, as well as being the very bottom Candidate on the Labour Party List. (64 out of 64). Being honoured like this is...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Blockade the Budget
    The ‘Independent’ Police Conduct Authority’s report into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash The report released by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash riddled with inaccuracies....
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • When National claim new anti worker laws provide ‘flexibility’ they mea...
    And so it comes to pass. The first law National ram through as part of their victory march are new anti worker laws they pretend will generate ‘flexibility’. The new law denigrate the unions ability to protect workers and provide...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • City Transport: A Taxing Matter
    This week the prospect of paying tolls on Auckland motorways became a hot topic. (See Mathew Dearnaley:Motorway tolling could hit some hard, NZ Herald, 30 Oct 2014.) As we might expect, the kneejerk response has been quite negative. But, as with...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Open Letter to Amy Adams: Please Reopen The Review Into Sexual Violence Cou...
    Ms Amy Adams, Justice and Courts Minister, Right now in this country it seems that although rape is illegal, it is not being prevented by the agents who uphold the law. It almost feels like rape is only illegal on paper,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Things That Make You Go Hmmmmmmm
    Every so often in politics, a public figure comes out with something so absurd and so outlandish … that it really does just make you go “Hmmmmmmmmmm”. We’re accustomed to this from certain quarters – by mid point through the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • David Parker event – the future of work, Sun 2 Nov
    Labour leadership candidate David Parker, an experienced lawyer and businessman as well as a former senior government cabinet minister in the Helen Clark Government, will join three prominent New Zealanders in a panel discussion on Sunday to address...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Roast Busters: Turn Indignation into Action
    People raged about the Roast Buster case. The indignation was justified – it was horrible. “Where were their parents!?” Fair question. I am sure the Roast Busters’ parents and the victims’ parents all wish they had been more proactive in...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Stats NZ only have themselves to blame for postponement
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says Statistics NZ only have themselves to blame for the indefinite postponement of the release of the Food Price Index: November 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • NZ Diversity Survey – benchmarking workplace diversity
    AUT University’s New Zealand Work Research Institute (NZWRI) has released a report on diversity in New Zealand workplaces....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Māori Language (Te Reo Māori) Bill
    Tutehounuku Korako, Chair of the Māori Affairs Committee, is inviting further public submissions on this bill. The closing date for submissions is Friday, 5 December 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • ERA amendments a mixed bag
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act has the potential to put vulnerable workers in a more precarious position, says Equal Opportunities Commissioner, Dr Jackie Blue. However, the commissioner says the right for all to request flexible work hours is...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Sensible Sentencing calls for appeal of judicial activivism
    The Sensible Sentencing Trust is appalled that Justice Jill Mallon has today refused to apply the Life without Parole (LWOP) provisions of the Three Strikes law as enacted by Parliament....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Global Rally against ISIS – for Kobanê – for Humanity, Nov 1
    The New Zealand Kurdish Community will march in solidarity with Kurdistan as part of the “GLOBAL RALLY AGAINST ISIS – FOR KOBANÊ – FOR HUMANITY” on 1 November 2014, 2pm....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Safer roads are better for everyone
    Recent pedestrian versus vehicle incidents highlight the real issues being addressed by delegates as the 2Walk and Cycle conference concludes....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Law change creates more flexible labour market
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act, passed yesterday, will bring new flexibility to the labour market and will reduce the ability of unions to organise and to recruit....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Bumper ANZ profits mean no excuse for insecure hours
    A big rise in profits at New Zealand's largest bank needs to be reflected in a better pay offer and more security around hours of work, the bank workers’ union said today....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Count down to lowered alcohol limit
    With just a month to go until a new lower alcohol limit for adult drivers comes into effect, Police and road safety agencies are reminding drivers of the impending change....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • WorkSafe Supports Forestry Review Findings
    WorkSafe NZ says the Independent Forestry Safety Review has clearly identified the problems facing an industry in which ten workers were killed last year. “The Review’s analysis matches our own view and leaves no doubt about the need for comprehensive,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU welcomes forestry review recommendations
    The CTU is welcoming the today's release of the independent forestry safety review panel findings. "These recommendations must be implemented to ensure that everything possible is done to make forestry safer." CTU President, Helen Kelly said....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Activists will confront animal abusers
    Today animal rights activists will confront a group of wealth advisers who want to build the biggest egg factory-farm in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Turia: Women’s Refuge Conference 2014
    This is a milestone moment in my life. This will be my last official address as Co-leader of the Maori Party. On Saturday night at our Hui-a-Tau, I will be standing down from that role and enabling a new co-leader,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rodeo Code of Welfare ‘Sick Joke’
    Animal advocacy organisation SAFE says the revised Code of Welfare for Rodeos just released is nothing but a sick joke. “Rodeo animals are goaded, tormented and forced to endure needless suffering and gross mistreatment, all for the sake of so-called...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Conservative Party applauds binding referenda on flag
    The Conservative Party are congratulating the Government on the decision to hold two binding referendums to decide the fate of New Zealand’s flag – and believes it will pave the way for binding referenda to form part of New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Walk the Talk – Opposing violence against women
    Soroptimist International of Auckland have organised a walk on 22 November from Silo Park at the Wynyard Quarter through the Viaduct and back to Silo Park, to show their opposition to violence against women. This event hopes to raise awareness...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Recommendations on the Design of Pecuniary Penalties
    The Law Commission has reviewed the use of pecuniary penalties as a regulatory tool. Pecuniary penalties are financial penalties that policymakers are increasingly opting to use in place of criminal sanctions in order to punish and deter misconduct in...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Every worker will be affected by employment law changes
    Every worker will feel the effects of the government’s new employment laws and should join a union if they want to maintain and increase their wages and conditions, says New Zealand’s largest private sector union, the EPMU....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Shameful attack on all workers
    The Government has passed the Employment Relations Amendment Act slashing the rights of all Kiwi workers. “These changes are shameful. New Zealand now has some of the worst employment protections in the OECD. It is embarrassing that a country which...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Unnecessary law changes more to do with ideology
    The government’s employment law changes are simply ideological and are at odds with its approach in the related areas of health and safety and immigration law, FIRST Union said tonight....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
    “The Reserve Bank should be reducing its policy interest rate, the OCR”, says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg in response to the Bank’s announcement today that it is not increasing it....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • 2015 Stout Fellow will write about Māori & Criminal Justice
    Kim Workman, founder and advocate for the Robson Hanan Trust, which administers the Rethinking Crime and Punishment and Justspeak initiatives, has been awarded the 2015 John David Stout Fellowship at Victoria University....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • What John Key thought about ‘dirty politics’
    On September 20, John Key swept to victory to become one of New Zealand’s most successful and popular Prime Ministers. Rocked by scandal, the 2014 election campaign was one of the most brutal – and riveting – in recent history....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the Napier City Council, the...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • New employment law will hurt the most vulnerable NZers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says changes to the Employment Relations Act, expected to be passed in Parliament tonight, will hurt vulnerable workers and their families more than anyone....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Consultation to close on proposed place names
    The New Zealand Geographic Board (NZGB) Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa today advised that only one month remains before public consultation closes for 18 name proposals for geographic features and places around Te Ika ā Māui (the North Island)....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
    I have taken a close interest in this investigation and I am confident police have conducted a thorough and professional enquiry in what has been a challenging and complex case. The Operation Clover team has ensured that victims have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Better policy would have protected children from recession
    Child Poverty Action Group says an international report released by UNICEF today shows good policy can protect and improve child well-being, even during a recession....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Outcome of Operation Clover investigation
    Police have completed a multi-agency investigation, Operation Clover, into the activities of a group calling themselves “The Roast Busters”. The 12 month enquiry focused on incidents involving allegations of sexual offending against a number of girls...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • False birth registration brings home detention
    A Whangarei woman who attempted to register the birth of a fictitious child to claim a sole parent benefit was sentenced to six months home detention in the Whangarei District Court today....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
    The family of a New Zealander killed in Indonesia are growing increasingly concerned at the lack of information they’ve received, and the handling of the investigation into his murder....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
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