web analytics
The Standard
Advertising

From the archives

Written By: - Date published: 12:15 pm, July 10th, 2009 - 14 comments
Categories: cartoons - Tags: , , , ,

I figured this was deserving of a post of its own.

It’s a cartoon from The Standard (v1.0) sent in by Anita in reference to the post on Labour and Nazis below. Thanks!

Front page, 23 May 1940. Click for enlargements.

frontsmlnazis

14 comments on “From the archives”

  1. Lew 1

    Awesome. Thanks for posting this.

    L

  2. Tim Ellis 2

    I don’t think that settles the argument ayb. This is posted from 23 May 1940. The question is whether the Labour government was trying to appease H*tler before the war.

    • Anita 2.1

      Tim,

      I apologise for having failed to collect any photographs of cartoons from The Standard about the Nazis from before the war when I was going through back issues a year ago. I have clearly let the whole Labour movement down :)

      Seriously tho, if you’re in Wellington you could pop in to the National Library and go to the Alexander Turnbull newspapers room and get the back issues of The Standard and check for yourself.

      P.S. Could someone change the moderated words list while these threads are live? :)

      • Anita 2.1.1

        Actually, I just flicked through the images of earlier issues of The Standard I have, and I seem to have (right at the margins of a page I photographed for another reason, so it’s less than perfect quality) a vaguely relevant thing.

        Dated 5 July 1937, and under a headline “Tories Rapped on Knuckles Christchurch
        ‘Press’ Hits Out At Nationalists Administers Rebuke to Propagandist” I find this quote from The Press

        “The present Government to judge by its public utterances,” the “Press” editorial states, “is uncompromisingly (and impartially) opposed to the political doctrines of Fascism and Communism. It is committed, however, to ‘the socialisation of the means of production, distribution, and exchange;’ and this in itself has given colour to the charge that it is essentially a Communist Government. National Party speakers have, in fact, made this the basis of recent appeals to the people to use their votes to overthrow Communism as represented by the Labour Party.”

        So it looks like even the right-aligned Press was saying that Labour was absolutely opposed to fascism (Nazi Germany) and recognised that Labour’s political opponents were trying to blur the lines to attack Labour.

        I can type up some more of the article if you want, or put the whole image somewhere.

    • felix 2.2

      Is it?

      That’s the first time I’ve heard anyone mention “appeasement”.

    • Maynard J 2.3

      Everyone was trying to appease Hitler before the war. I have not heard that in relation to this wee story though, apart from on KB comment threads.

  3. George D 3

    There is a hell of a lot of historical revisionism. Hitler was revered by most elites as a great man before the war, and not truly reviled until well into it.

  4. StephenR 4

    It is committed, however, to ‘the socialisation of the means of production, distribution, and exchange;’ and this in itself has given colour to the charge that it is essentially a Communist Government

    I recall recently reading that the ‘socialisation of the means of production’ bit was in the Labour party manifesto for some decades after 1937 – was great ammo for the National party :-D

  5. burt 5

    If Hitler wins…

    Socialism was dead on the ground as would be capitalism. Of course socialists would like to cast capitalism with totalitarians (and therefore no distinction is made in that cartoon) because myopic partisan people only view the world according to “them and us’. Naturally you want to cast “them’ up to as bad a boogie-man as possible.

    You still can’t get around the reality that unions were big supporters if Hitler pre war and socialists are the big supporters of unions unlike capitalists or totalitarians.

    • Daveo 5.1

      Which unions were these that backed Hitler burt? The ones he merely banned or the ones whose leaders he had killed?

      You’re right that Hitler was no free market capitalist though. That’s a whole different brand of rule by business. No, fascism as a phenomenon was a response to the rising threat of socialism and organised labour. Business saw Hitler as their bulwark against communism. He protected their interests, made many of them fabulously wealthy, and kept the commos and the unions at bay.

      • burt 5.1.1

        <history_rewrite>Yes of course Daveo, the National Socialist party was completely against the unions from the start.</history_rewrite>

    • Draco T Bastard 5.2

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_and_ideology

      The rise to power of the Italian fascists and German Nazis was largely funded and supported by aristocratic landlords, wealthy industrialists, army officers, and other groups with strong conservative leanings. The fascists gathered this support by successfully presenting themselves as the last line of defense against liberal democracy, land reform, demilitarization and the collectivization of the means of production.

      Got any proof of your assertions Burt or you just running off at the arse as per usual?

      • Pascal's bookie 5.2.1

        nah, he sees the word socialist, which can only ever mean one thing, and cannot be qualified, and that’s it, thinking’s done, nothing further required.

        Of course he could prove us wrong and tell us why ‘National Socialist’ is different from ‘socialism’ as understood by marxists, social democrats or unions; and what if any, are the similarities, but I’m guessing not. He’ll just stick with “Ooh look – ‘socialist’, that proves it”.

  6. DS 6

    >>>Yes of course Daveo, the National Socialist party was completely against the unions from the start.<<<

    North Korea calls itself the Democratic Republic of Korea. I guess you think that makes North Korea democratic.

Important links

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

1 2 3 7

  • Customs seeks big brother powers
    A proposal giving New Zealand Customs powers to compel anyone to provide passwords and encryption keys to their electronic devices is another step towards a surveillance society and should be strongly resisted, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran said today.  “There… ...
    23 hours ago
  • Playcentre Awareness Week – celebrating an icon!
    It’s not always easy being an icon and Playcentres tell me they are facing big challenges under the current economic and social circumstances. However this week Playcentres are celebrating their proud history and current contribution. Since 1941 the Playcentres have… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 day ago
  • Housing Accord not working – prices continue skyward
      The Government's Auckland Housing Accord isn't working as house prices continue to go through the roof, Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The average Auckland house has gone up by $110,000 since the Accord came into effect 15 months… ...
    2 days ago
  • Justice for Teina Pora long overdue
    The Privy Council’s decision to quash Teina Pora’s convictions for the rape and murder of Susan Burdett could be the final chapter in a case that should have been closed years ago, Labour’s Justice Spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. “Teina Pora… ...
    2 days ago
  • Ministers must answer questions on IRD blowout
    The current and previous Revenue Ministers must front up and explain how the child support system had a budget blowout from $30 million to $210 million in just four years, says Labour’s Revenue spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove. “Peter Dunne was Revenue… ...
    3 days ago
  • Curb stratospheric public CEO salaries
    A review of the way MPs’ pay is set should also look at ways to curb excessive rises in the salaries of public service chief executives, Labour Leader Andrew Little says. “Some of these CEOs have had stratospheric pay increases… ...
    3 days ago
  • 50 cents? Makes no sense.
    The minimum wage rose by 50 cents this month from 14.25 to 14.75. While it’s a small step towards ensuring minimum workers get a fair share, it’s important to remember that real wages only rose 1.5% while productivity rose by… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    4 days ago
  • The Serco corrections circus
    It should seem obvious to employers, private or public, that it’s important to do what you can to retain your best, most experienced staff. They make life easier for you because they’re effective, attentive and often respected by those around… ...
    GreensBy David Clendon MP
    4 days ago
  • Time for NZ to prohibit the killing of great apes
    That ban was widely hailed, and spurred efforts in other countries to get similar bans. However, apes are still being exploited, abused and killed, both in captivity and in the wild. Examples of cruelty, neglect and abuse abound. Apes are… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers MP
    7 days ago
  • Auckland building consents: Tragic
    The only word to describe the latest building consent figures for Auckland is ‘tragic’, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Whatever the Government is doing to address the Auckland housing crisis, it is clearly not working. ...
    7 days ago
  • A whiff of a new biosecurity scandal?
    A pest which could create havoc for New Zealand’s horticulture and agriculture sector must be as much a focus for the Government as hunting out fruit flies, Labour’s Biosecurity spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “While the Ministry for Primary Industries is… ...
    7 days ago
  • Government shrugs off health sector crisis
    Despite new evidence showing that cuts to health spending are costing lives the Government continues to deny the sector is struggling, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “Health services in New Zealand are in crisis. ...
    1 week ago
  • Parata lowered the bar for failing charter school
    When Hekia Parata became aware that the Whangaruru charter school was experiencing major problems her first action was to drop standards by reducing the number of qualified teachers they had to employ, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins has revealed. “Hekia… ...
    1 week ago
  • National not being straight about the economy
    John Key and Bill English need to be straight with New Zealanders about the damage their failure to diversify the economy is doing, after new figures show export growth plunged due to a collapse in dairy exports, says Grant Robertson.… ...
    1 week ago
  • Mind the Gap
    This week the International Monetary Fund released a report on the wider economic value in closing the gender pay gap. When even the bastions of free-market economics start to raise concerns about gender pay gaps, we have to realise how… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    1 week ago
  • Labour will hold National to parental leave promise
    Labour will hold National to its promise to increase the support given to new parents of premature, multiple birth and babies born with disabilities, Labour’s paid parental leave campaigner Sue Moroney says. "I am naturally disappointed that after battling for… ...
    1 week ago
  • It was all just pillar talk
    Steven Joyce’s confession that he can no longer guarantee a pillar-free design for the New Zealand International Convention Centre shows the Government has abandoned its dream of creating an ‘iconic’ ‘world-class’ structure, says Labour Economic Development spokesperson David Clark. “Steven… ...
    1 week ago
  • Australians move on offshore speculators
    John Key might want to have a quiet word with Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott about Canberra's just-announced crack down on offshore speculators when he visits New Zealand this week, Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says."Tony Abbott's centre right government… ...
    1 week ago
  • Government at odds on overseas driver crashes
    National backbencher Jacqui Dean has spoken out about overseas driver crashes, putting herself at odds with Prime Minister John Key who is on record as saying it’s not a big issue, Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “I’m not surprised… ...
    1 week ago
  • Human Rights and the Palestine Crisis
    Last week I heard two Palestinians speak at Wellington events about the ongoing crisis in their country. Samar Sabawi spoke to a full house about the history of Palestine and gave us a lucid and disturbing account of the situation… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • Time to take real care of our kids
    An Amnesty International report has once again criticised New Zealand’s track record on looking after our kids, Labour’s Children’s spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. The annual report, which looks at global human rights abuses highlights not only the fact that high… ...
    1 week ago
  • Manus Island and the New Zealand Government
    This week the Greens have participated in awareness activity about Manus Island, the refugee camp on an island in Papua New Guinea where Australia dumps asylum seekers. John Key says that he has every confidence in the Australian Government’s claim… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Election Inquiry – Getting accessible voting on the agenda
    James Shaw has been doing a series of blogs on the Election Inquiry into last year’s general election.  I thought this was a great opportunity to raise an issue very dear to me – accessible voting. Last year’s general election… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers MP
    2 weeks ago
  • RMA changes no solution to Christchurch housing
    Housing will continue to be a big issue in 2015. The latest Consumer Price Index, released last month, shows both good news and bad news on the housing front. After years of being the most expensive place to build a… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Saving kokako in South Auckland’s Hunua Ranges
    It is amazing that you can hear the song of the endangered North Island kokako in South Auckland’s Hunua Ranges, less than 50 kms from the central city. A heavy schedule of policy workshops at the Green Party’s Policy… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    3 weeks ago
  • Let’s not turn a blind eye to human rights
    The Cricket World Cup has just opened in New Zealand, and it’s an opportunity for us to shine on the world stage. International sport can be a chance for us to build relationships with other countries, and examine what it… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    3 weeks ago
  • Its Just Not Cricket
    This week it was my privilege to work with Sri Lankan Tamil communities in this country and host Australian journalist and human rights advocate Trevor Grant. I knew a bit about Trevor from his biography but I didn’t know just… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    3 weeks ago
  • Time for NZ to #BeCrueltyFree
    The Government is about to progress the final stages of the Animal Welfare Amendment bill. This will be our last opportunity to get changes made to improve the bill to ensure a better outcome for animals. I have put forwards… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers MP
    3 weeks ago
  • We want access!
    Access to buildings is a big issue for many New Zealanders. It looks like that, due to the hard work and persistence of people in the disability community, the Government may finally be starting to take access to buildings seriously.… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers MP
    3 weeks ago
  • Greens call on Super Fund to divest from fossil fuels
    The Green Party today called on the New Zealand Superannuation Fund (the Fund) to divest from fossil fuels, starting immediately with coal. The call was accompanied with a new report, Making money from a climate catastrophe: The case for divesting… ...
    GreensBy Russel Norman MP
    3 weeks ago

Removed at the request of The Daily Blog.
Public service advertisements by The Standard

Current CO2 level in the atmosphere