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“Having a Whale of a time”

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In July 2011, John Key was on holiday in Maui “having a whale of a time” – and also on Q+A in New Zealand letting the world know that Phil Goff was briefed by Warren Tucker. So they do have the telephone in Hawaii.

Here’s what Key said to Guyon Espiner on Q+A on 24 July 2011 – while he was on holiday in Hawaii:

GUYON Did you brief Phil Goff?

JOHN  Phil Goff was briefed, yeah, that’s right.  I personally didn’t brief him, but my understanding from the director of SIS, Warren Tucker, is that he was briefed and he was shown the same note and report that I saw.

GUYON Is the file closed?

JOHN Yeah.  It closed on- I probably won’t tell you the day, but it’s closed.

Here’s what Key said to media today when queried about the contradictions between what Warren Tucker and Beverley Wakem wrote in 2011 and said today:

“All I can tell you is I was having myself a whale of a time on holiday in Hawaii but nothing to do with Whaleoil.”

I’ll be surprised if Key’s back on Morning Report tomorrow.

 

 

41 comments on ““Having a Whale of a time””

  1. fdx 1

    Key appears to be choking on his ambergris.

  2. Key is a fucking liar.

    • Dumbrse 2.1

      Is he lying about Phil Goff being a lier?

      • dave 2.1.1

        when the leader of the opposition gets brief from the sis he/she is not aloud to admit or tell anyone or take notes and no eyewitnesses in other words its top secret phi l never lied about being briefed he wasn’t aloud to tell anyone whether he had or not .John key broke the rules phi l Goff was hang out dry for following the law key is corrupt he must go

      • tricledrown 2.1.2

        Dumbrse still living up to your name still haven’t match my lousy $10 bet yet!
        you haven’t got any of your claims right yet so Ipredict you are making and idiot of yourself!
        If you were on commission to spread cynicism and run interference muddy the waters so to speak!
        you are last over the line !

  3. ghostwhowalksnz 3

    “my understanding from the director of SIS, Warren Tucker, is that he was briefed ”

    And while he was away in Hawaii and this interview was all set up he KNEW that the OIA had gone out with Tucker talking to Goff.

    For all the other versions by Tucker and Wakem to be true, would mean Key runs the government like he is the leader of Hamas, never having face to face meetings, no one knows where he is , or he never uses a phone to keep updated. Just in case the IDF comes “knocking ” on his roof. Unbelievable.

    • The lizard people communicate by telepathy.

    • karol 3.2

      Goff said on Campbell Live tonight, that the evidence points to Slater being briefed on the OIA. It is more likely he’d have been briefed by someone other than the SIS, because the motivation was political.

      If not the PM, Slater was most likely briefed by someone on the PM’s office. But, Goff said that, based on his experiences of working closely with a PM, if someone in the PM’s staff had done something like leak information about an SIS OIA, the PM would come down on them very hard – it’s pretty unheard of for someone in a PM’s staff, to decide on their own to brief someone on security matters, without the PM’s say so.

      • Olwyn 3.2.1

        Yes, that has been on my mind, and I’m glad it came up in the Goff-Campbell Live interview. With regard to ALL of the released material, and this disclosure in particular, Key has at the very least condoned what has happened. This by itself says a lot. After all, look at how swiftly he dealt with Aaron Gilmore – for being rude to a waiter.

        • karol 3.2.1.1

          The Campbell Live segment on it.

          The article below the video includes this bit of gibberish from john key:

          John Campbell caught up with Mr Key in Christchurch to ask for clarification about who knew what was released, when, why, and how it got to Mr Slater.

          “Well I don’t know because I don’t work on those things, but I think what was released was simply the heading that there was a briefing that took place,” says Mr Key. “But at the end of the day I knew it was there and I knew he was briefed because he told me he would be.”

          Does Key practice such mis-speaking in front of the mirror? Or does it come naturally?

          • Olwyn 3.2.1.1.1

            I did see it, but thanks for writing that part down – I laughed out loud when I read it in print. Utterly garbled, but “at the end of the say” is still going strong.

  4. Tracey 4

    His bit about hawaii must have been intended to suggest to voters he couldnt therefore have had a discussion with tucker about the sis plans. The q and a shows his holidays dont mean unavailable…

    The lying and misleading goes on and on, and the bags under his eyes get deeper and deeper…

  5. One Anonymous Bloke 5

    I was on holiday at the time,
    At the time I did this crime,
    This crime is not what you can see,
    This crime only applies to me,
    For leaky I just cannot be,
    Even though I leak on you,
    I leak on you yes that is true,
    And when I’m finished I turn to,
    Judith and she leaks some more,
    Now our piss is at the door,
    You will have to let us in,
    So we can sin and sin and sin,
    And fuck your country from within.

    • There once was a pol named John Key
      Who’d sell his own mum for a fee
      But he’ll find that his crime
      Will soon mean it’s time
      For him to be entering a plea

      • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1.1

        But that didn’t bother our John,
        He said as he moved right along,
        “The public don’t care,
        You can’t catch me, I’m air!”
        And his plane it was already gone!

        • vto 5.1.1.1

          There once lived a man who couldn’t recall
          His name or his place, just pretended it all
          “Don’t remember” he cried
          And more lies he just plied
          Until “Look” called a boy “he’s not even tall!”

          • RedLogix 5.1.1.1.1

            Oh what a tangled web we weave
            When first we practise to deceive –

            But when we have the art perfected
            It’s time to get elected!!

            Dennis Glover

            (Not being talented enough to make up my own one like you guys !!)

          • Tom Jackson 5.1.1.1.2

            A National PM we call John
            Thinks you’re a total moron
            That you’ll fail to think
            or notice the stink
            that surrounds his elaborate con.

          • Tom Jackson 5.1.1.1.3

            The odious Cameron Slater
            A foul and degenerate hater
            A fat lump of dough
            Who thinks we don’t know
            That he’s a sad masturbator.

  6. ianmac 6

    Confuse/deflect “In July 2011, John Key was on holiday in Maui “having a whale of a time”
    Yes he said that but of course John Campbell’s follow up question might have been:
    JC: Yes Mr Key. I understand that but did you have a discussion with Mr Tucker while you were on holiday?
    JK: Why would I? I was on holiday far from the problems back in NZ.
    JC: But did you have a discussion with Mr Tucker?
    JK: I have had lots of discussions with Mr Tucker but look. This is all a Left wing conspiracy….

  7. ianmac 7

    PREFERRED PRIME MINISTER (The Herald)

    John Key 64.8 (down 8.5)
    David Cunliffe 14.6 (up 4.1)
    Winston Peters 5.1 (down 0.4)
    Russel Norman 3.5 (up 1.5)
    David Shearer 1.5 (down 0.7)
    Helen Clark 1.4 (up 0.9)
    Jacinda Ardern 1 (-0.4)
    Phil Goff 1 (up 0.7)

    • The poll of 750 respondents was conducted between August 14 and August 20 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.6 per cent.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11312362

    • One Anonymous Bloke 7.1

      I predict a leap in “undecided” voters at National’s expense, which The Herald won’t report.

      • Tracey 7.1.1

        Curia polling hard tonight. JWas called by them.

        • Anne 7.1.1.1

          Curia is polling for the Nats? Of course. Lets see if Jonkey changes his tactics in the next couple of days. It’ll give an indication what the poll is telling them.

          Btw, I was watching the stand-up with John Campbell this evening. I’m not joking when I say… I could have sworn his nose was slowly getting longer – and redder…

          • disturbed 7.1.1.1.1

            Jonkey had a look of fight and terror in his eyes too.

            When he came close to face John Campbell his eyes were so wild and piercing like angry with fear.

            His mana is gone now, and a reactive shell is what we now see, hope N.Z. sees this change..

        • mpledger 7.1.1.2

          Did they ask for you by name or did they ask for the person with the next birthday or choose you in some other way?

  8. Alistair Connor 8

    The litany of John Key excuses continues :
    “I don’t remember”
    “I was on holiday in Hawaii”
    “I was out to lunch at the time”

    The odd thing is that nobody nails him on the elementary , fundamental “where the buck stops” doctrine. If he didn’t sign off, or get verbally briefed, on SIS matters, that means he delegated that task to someone in his office he trusted. And EITHER that person messed up and has to take the heat (the coward’s way out : blame a subordinate) OR Key takes responsibility personally.

    Saying “Nothing to do with me” is worse than cowardly, it’s a lie.

  9. Alistair Connor 9

    Let’s write the script, for Espiner or whoever gets to pose questions to Key.

    “Prime Minister, is it fair to say that all matters relating to the SIS which are notified to your office at any given time, whether you are present or on holiday, are dealt with by someone you know and trust, and who decides whether you have to be notified personally or not?”
    “Prime Minister, this being the case, do you think that person might have made an error of judgement in not notifying you of this OIA request which had been expedited in order to give information to a right-wing attack blog which had been denied to mainstream media?”
    “Prime Minister, do you expect us to believe that you were’t informed of the matter by your staff because you were on holiday, but that you had time to comment the matter on Q+A on 24 July 2011?”

    • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1

      Double-barreled questions with a bunch of clauses won’t cut it.

      Worse, only the Serious Fraud Office can compel answers. When the media gets around to asking the right questions he will stonewall.

  10. Dan1 10

    I wish I was wrong but there are some people in our political universe who fulfil the requirements of being a psychopath. The cartoon characters probably don’t relate but the symptoms are very relevant.

    http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-a-Psychopath

  11. appleboy 11

    This may have been said elsewhere, but, am i correct that Tucker has retired? What the hell is he doing putting out press releases when there’s an official investigation going on, when he’s no longer involved? What capacity is he acting in? Private citizen/national party supporter?

    The obvious inference is he’s a total fucking liar too, just trying to back Key in a tight spot. the written evidence clearly shows key was briefed.

    • disturbed 11.1

      +++++++++100% appleboy

      Tucker can never be free of the hidden crime of cover up until he comes clean,

      When the country goes down the gurgler he will be held to account as one who had a hand in our downfall, we will remember.

    • ianmac 11.2

      Tucker was at home today working in his backyard but retreated inside when visited by the Campbell Live reporter. Silence.

    • Ross 11.3

      Yes, Tucker has retired as SIS director, but I guess he could get a nice job if the Tories get a third term. I imagine the PM would have to show his appreciation to Tucker who’s been very loyal to National.

      • Rich 11.3.1

        I don’t see why he identifies with them. When they went to his house today it was obvious that he did not live in Remuera.

  12. Kiwiri 13

    Taxpayers are paying how much per year for this Prime Liar??

  13. Inky 14

    I read whaledump released something about Lusk but when I looked at his/her twitter account I couldn’t find it. Is there somewhere online you can find the whaledump releases, other than his account?

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    The troubled Whangaruru charter school asked Hekia Parata for $25,000 to fence the school farm at the expense of spending on teaching, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “This unbelievable revelation comes hard on the heels of Hekia Parata’s decision to… ...
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  • Government report on sexual & family violence a good first step
    Yesterday the Government released the cabinet paper on progress on the work programme of the Ministerial Group on Family Violence and Sexual Violence. Along with the Human Rights Commissioner and Women’s Refuge, I really welcome the report. I’m relieved that… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 days ago
  • Government report on sexual & family violence a good first step
    Yesterday the Government released the cabinet paper on progress on the work programme of the Ministerial Group on Family Violence and Sexual Violence. Along with the Human Rights Commissioner and Women’s Refuge, I really welcome the report. I’m relieved that… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 days ago
  • Prisoner voting disqualification and the Bill of Rights Act
    In 2010, National rammed the Electoral (Disqualification of Sentenced Prisoners) Amendment Bill through Parliament. Paul Quinn’s Member’s Bill existed because Paul Quinn thought anyone who’d been imprisoned was a serious offender, and serious offenders had ‘forfeited’ their right to vote.… ...
    GreensBy David Clendon MP
    2 days ago
  • Mainfreight ‘appalled’ by Government’s rail madness
    The Government has been given a serve by New Zealand-based international trucking and logistics firm Mainfreight which says it lacks a national transport strategy, and has treated rail badly, Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford says. The company has told shareholders it… ...
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  • National’s Health and Safety Reform Bill: less safety and fewer rights at...
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    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    3 days ago
  • All options need to be put on meat sector table
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  • Flag the referendum if 50% or more don’t vote
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    3 days ago
  • 90,000 cars reclassified in botched ACC ratings
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    3 days ago
  • Brutal health cuts confirmed, crucial services suffer
    Chronic under-funding by National has seen the health budget slashed by $1.7 billion in just five years, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. A report by Infometrics, commissioned by Labour, shows health funding has been cut in four of the… ...
    4 days ago
  • Meth ring under Serco’s nose
    The news that two Serco inmates have been arrested for helping to run a methamphetamine ring from prison should be the final straw and see their contract cancelled, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “National has stood by Serco despite… ...
    4 days ago
  • Ministers failing women and their own targets
    New figures showing just five Ministers have met the Government’s own reduced targets for appointing women to state sector boards is evidence National is failing Kiwi women, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The Ministry for Women’s 2015 Gender… ...
    4 days ago
  • Charges up for some as funding up for grabs
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    4 days ago
  • Stop experimenting on kids
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    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    5 days ago
  • Bank puts the squeeze on mid Canterbury farmers
    News that an unnamed bank in Ashburton has put a receiver on notice over financially vulnerable farmers will send a chill through rural New Zealand, says Labour’s Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson. “The Government needs to work with  New Zealand’s banks… ...
    5 days ago
  • Key is trading away New Zealand land and homes
    John Key yesterday admitted what National dishonestly refused to confirm in Parliament last week – he is trading away New Zealand’s right to control who buys our homes and land, says Opposition leader Andrew Little. “The Prime Minister must now… ...
    5 days ago
  • Razor gang takes scalpel to health
    Plans by the Government to take a scalpel to democratically elected health boards are deceitful and underhand, coming just months after an election during which they were never signalled, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says “Leaked documents reveals a radical… ...
    5 days ago
  • Spin lines show a department in chaos
    Corrections Spin Doctors sending their place holder lines to journalists instead of responding to serious allegations shows the scale of chaos at the department over the Serco scandal, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “As more and more serious allegations… ...
    1 week ago
  • Court ruling shows law should never have been passed
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    1 week ago
  • Judicial Review Gamble Pays Off for Problem Gambling Foundation
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    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Environmental Protection Agency appoints GE advocate as new CEO
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    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • Charanpreet Dhaliwal death demands genuine health and safety reform
    The killing of a security guard on his first night on the job is exactly the kind of incident that National’s watered-down health and safety bill won’t prevent, says Te Atatu MP Phil Twyford. The coronial inquest into 22-year-old Charanpreet… ...
    1 week ago
  • Arbitrary sanctions hit children hardest
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    1 week ago
  • Hekia just won’t face the facts
    Hekia Parata’s decision to keep troubled Whangaruru Charter school open despite being presented with a catalogue of failure defies belief, goes against official advice and breaks a Government promise to close these schools if they were failing, says Labour’s Education… ...
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  • No more silent witnesses
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    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    1 week ago
  • Single Use Plastic Bags campaign – Some wins and some green-washing
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    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
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    As we near the end of Plastic Free July I’m nearing the conclusion of my Say No To Plastic Bag tour when I will have completed all 30 of my public meetings. The campaign was designed to work with community… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Minister must take responsibility for problem gambling debacle
    The Government’s handling of the Problem Gambling Foundation’s axing in a cost-cutting exercise has been ham-fisted and harmful to some of the most vulnerable people in society, Associate Health Labour spokesperson David Clark says.“Today’s court ruling overturning the axing of… ...
    1 week ago
  • Labour will not support TPP if it undermines NZ sovereignty
    The Labour Party will not support the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement unless key protections for New Zealanders are met, Opposition leader Andrew Little says.“Labour supports free trade. However, we will not support a TPP agreement that undermines New Zealand’s sovereignty. ...
    1 week ago
  • Coleman can’t ignore latest warnings
    Resident doctors have advised that a severe staffing shortage at North Shore Hospital is putting patients’ lives at risk, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “They say a mismatch between staffing levels and patient workloads at North Shore has… ...
    1 week ago
  • ACC must remove barriers to appeals
    The Government must prioritise removing barriers to justice for ACC claimants following a damning report by Acclaim Otago, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “ACC Minister Nikki Kaye must urgently scrap her flawed plan to remove claimant’s right to redress… ...
    1 week ago
  • Six months’ paid parental leave back on the agenda
    Six months’ paid parental leave is back on the agenda and a step closer to reality for Kiwi parents after Labour’s new Member’s Bill was pulled from today’s ballot, the Bill’s sponsor and Labour MP Sue Moroney says. “My Bill… ...
    1 week ago
  • Sole parents at risk of having no income
    New requirements for sole parents to undertake a reapplication process after a year is likely to mean a large number will face benefit cancellations, but not because they have obtained work, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Carmel Sepuloni says. “Increasing numbers… ...
    1 week ago
  • Juking the Welfare Stats Again
    Last week the government’s major initiative to combat child poverty (a paltry $25 increase) was exposed for what it is, a lie. The Government, through the Budget this year, claims to be engaging in the child poverty debate, but instead,… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    1 week ago
  • OCR rate cut a result of flagging economy
    The Reserve Bank's decision to cut the Official Cash Rate to 3 per cent shows there is no encore for the so-called 'rock star' economy, says Labour's Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson.   "Today's interest rate cut comes off the back… ...
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  • Reboot to an innovation economy, an Internet economy and a clean economy
    In my short 33 years on this planet we’ve seen phenomenal technological, economic and social change, and it’s realistic to expect the next 33 will see even more, even faster change. You can see it in the non-descript warehouse near… ...
    GreensBy Gareth Hughes MP
    1 week ago
  • Bill that puts the environment into the EPA passes first hurdle
    A Bill that puts the environment squarely into legislation governing the Environmental Protection Authority passed its first reading today, says Meka Whaitiri.  “I introduced this member’s bill as the current law doesn’t actually make protecting the environment a goal of… ...
    1 week ago
  • Key’s KiwiSaver deception exposed
    KiwiSaver statistics released today expose John Key's claim that the cutting of the kickstart payment "will not make a blind bit of difference to the number of people who join KiwiSaver” to be duplicitous, says Labour Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson.  “Official… ...
    1 week ago
  • Minimum Wage Amendment Bill to protect contractors
    All New Zealanders should be treated fairly at work. Currently, the law allows non-employment relationships to be used to get around the minimum wage. This is unfair, says Labour MP David Parker. “The Minimum Wage (Contractor Remuneration) Amendment Bill, a… ...
    1 week ago
  • Bill raises bar to protect Kiwi farmland
    The Government’s rubber-stamping of every one of the nearly 400 applications from overseas investors to buy New Zealand farm land over the last three years proves tougher laws are needed, Labour MP Phil Goff says. “In the last term of… ...
    1 week ago
  • Costly flag referendum should be dumped
    John Key must ditch the flag referendum before any more taxpayer money is wasted, Opposition Leader Andrew Little says. “Millions of dollars could be saved if the Prime Minister called a halt to this hugely expensive, and highly unpopular, vanity… ...
    1 week ago
  • Nats letting Serco off scot free
    Government members have prevented Parliament’s Law and Order select committee from getting answers out of a senior Serco director about the fight clubs being run at Mt Eden prisons, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “At today’s Law and Order… ...
    1 week ago
  • Charter school experiment turns into shambles
    The National Government’s charter school experiment has descended into chaos and it’s time for Hekia Parata to stop trying to cover up the full extent of the problems, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The Education Minister must release all… ...
    1 week ago

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