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Jones affair – politics not always simple

Written By: - Date published: 9:30 am, May 23rd, 2012 - 227 comments
Categories: Ethics, im/migration, Shane Jones - Tags:

Perhaps a little bored with the multiple National / ACT self-inflicted fiascos, the media (and the braying right-wing blogs of course) have been bleeding plenty of ink over Shane Jones’ actions in granting citizenship to a decidedly dodgy Chinese immigrant. Jones hasn’t really put his side of the story – until last night:

MP told immigrant would be ‘jailed and executed’

Labour MP Shane Jones has revealed why he allowed Chinese immigrant Yong Ming Yan, charged with making false statements to gain citizenship, to stay in New Zealand. …

As a minister, Mr Jones signed off on Yong Ming Yan’s application to become a New Zealand citizen, despite officials telling him not to. “I was told the execution of this man…that he would be executed…which is the reason the officials gave for him not wanting to go back to China.”

Mr Jones said declining it would have been like signing a death warrant. Mr Jones says he was told that Mr Yan would be “jailed, executed and his organs harvested” if he was sent back to China. “That to me comprised grounds for a humanitarian decision,” Mr Jones says.

He confirmed those were the words used to describe the situation. “When a Government official in a minister’s office says such a thing so graphic that I actually wrote it down.” …

Mr Jones says he would be happy for any investigation to take place into his role in this matter.

I’m glad Jones is open to an investigation. That’s the right course of action, and if he is found to have acted unethically he should go. But those who are prematurely calling for Jones’ head, and trying to turn the situation into an attack on Shearer, should now take some time out to consider their own actions. They should ask themselves if they, in Jones’ position, would have taken action that they honestly believed would condemn a man to death.

Politics is not always simple.


Update: Part of a post from NRT:

Shane Jones made the right decision

… Under those circumstances there’s a clear humanitarian case. So clear, in fact, that it would be unlawful to remove Liu from the country. We don’t extradite people to execution. We don’t deport them to it either. Any Minister in Jones’ position would have made exactly the same decision. And if not, the courts would have made it for them.

227 comments on “Jones affair – politics not always simple”

  1. “would have taken action that they honestly believed would condemn a man to death.” Normally such things would end in asylum not in granting citizenship.

    • Deano 1.1

      what do you think asylum is? The person has to have some legal status in this country ie residency or citizenship. Refugees who get asylum become residents or citizens. There’s no such status as ‘asylum recipient’

  2. alwyn 2

    He was being asked to give the guy citizenship.
    He wasn’t being asked to order him to be deported back to China.
    That has got to be the feeblest arguement yet.

    • Colonial Viper 2.1

      What weird logic. However, it reads like you do agree with Jones’ decision that the Chinese national should be granted rights to stay in NZ?

      • gareth 2.1.1

        If there was credible information indicating execution then yes he should have been allowed to stay.
        But I cannot understand why (with all the red flags) he was given citizenship and a NZ passport.
        Surely as he already had permanent residency that would be sufficient. Certainly it seems strange the Shane Jones signed off extremely quickly followed by an equally quick ceremony with labour mps present.
        How he got residency in the first place is a whole different question.
        It all seems a bit smelly to me…..

      • alwyn 2.1.2

        I most certainly don’t agree with Jones’ decision to grant him citizenship if that was his reason.
        The guy had, thanks to Cunnliffe in, I think, 2002, a residency permit. He wasn’t going to be kicked out of the country. There was no likelihood of him being sent back to China to be executed anyway. We don’t allow extradition where the person could face capital punishment.
        We also have him claiming that he would get citizenship and that he was going to take his MP friends back to China with him. Hardly likely if he was going to be killed don’t you think?
        What I think Jones was doing was paying off on the promises made to Liu (or whatever his name really is) by Labour party fundraisers who owed him big-time. I would be curious where the orders to Jones came from. I don’t think he did it just because Dover, a man on the way out of Parliament, asked him to.

        • Pascal's bookie 2.1.2.1

          I don’t think anyone has mentioned extradition.

          the claim about going back to China is an odd bit of big noting. When was it made?

          Was it during the time Immigration were investigating him with a view to chucking him out of the country?

  3. Jeremy Harris 3

    Why would officials be recommending not granting him citizenship if they reasonably believed he was “going to be executed and his organs harvested”?

    It doesn’t make sense.

    • Sam Hall 3.1

      I am intrigued by the practice of the Chinese to execute and harvest the organs of corrupt businessman and Party members

  4. tsmithfield 4

    There appears to have been some seriously dodgy shit that has gone on here, and I am not sure that it stops with Jones. I won’t bother what repeating what has already been covered extensively on other blogs. However, even a generous reading of the facts that have come out raises serious questions about what has gone on in this process.

    • bbfloyd 4.1

      the only “dodgy shit” going on here is TS reading with one eye shut… it’s ruining his depth perception….

      the trolls are desperate.. the trolls are desperate…. the trolls are desperate….

  5. Pascal's bookie 5

    It always fascinates me when people put on their harrumphing hats say that something “raises serious questions that need to be answered”, and then go all quite about what these serious questions actually are.

    ‘It’s all just a bit murky, a bit suspect like, it’s the vibe of the thing.’

    I’m seeing a bit of this. dark murmerings. Utterances of concern.

    Anyone laid a complaint with the rozzers yet? The auditor general?

    If not, Why the fuck not?

    If the guy’s a crook, get him gone, right?

  6. Jackal 6

    A diversionary storm in a teacup if you ask me. Although an investigation is warranted.

  7. tsmithfield 7

    How about this article for a start.

    The high-ranking officials were stunned when then Cabinet minister Shane Jones approved the application one day after getting his file. They were certain Yong Ming Yan, also known as Bill Liu, who had been red-flagged by Interpol, stood little chance.

    But Yan leaned back in his chair, with his arms behind his head, and said he was 99 per cent confident he would get citizenship, the court was told yesterday.

    “He said he had a lot of support from members of Parliament … he was going to take them to China,” Internal Affairs case officer Olele Johannes Gambo said.

    Notice in the quote above that Yan was confident he was going to get citizenship due to support from members of parliament, and he was going to take them to China.

    So, contrary to what Jones has claimed, Yan didn’t seem particularly worried about getting executed in China, or having his organs harvested because, according to him, he was planning a trip back there.

    • grumpy 7.1

      ….and…….didn’t he actually go back to China in the interim??? So much for fear of execution.

    • Jackal 7.2

      What the article fails to make clear is that Yan made the statement sometime before he got residency in 2008, Yan did not make that statement in the court hearing as the article implies. There is also the fact that Jones was likely to have had the file for over a month, which would make the Fairfax article untruthful.

      Yan might not have been worried about being chopped up for his organs while also giving information that was relayed to Jones that said he was in danger. In that case Yan would be a liar… and who exactly is it again who is on trial for making false statements on his application?

      Until we know the facts of the matter, all your speculation looks pretty stupid really!

    • rosy 7.3

      The dates in that article don’t match the dates on the files that investigate magazine [sorry about the source] seems to have gotten hold of…

      http://www.investigatemagazine.com/jonesfile.pdf

      The article says the files went to Jones May – the DIA document recommending declining citizenship is dated July. Is it the same file? I’m confused.

  8. Can I make a generalised plea that will benefit all parties and prevent any sort of murky dealing from happening.
     
    Let’s have state funding for political parties.  No private donations, no favours, no undue influence by individuals.

    • Kotahi Tane Huna 8.1

      +100

      Do you think we should compensate the National Party’s owners for the loss of their property?

      • Socialist Paddy 8.1.1

        As soon as they compensate the New Zealand people for 80 years of pillage and theft.

    • higherstandard 8.2

      Oh fuck off, the public fund the vast amount of cost for these fuck wits at present through parliamentary largesse for secretaries, analysts and assorted other hacks.

      As long as all donations above a nominal value are transparent who gives a flying fuck.

      • mickysavage 8.2.1

        As long as all donations above a nominal value are transparent who gives a flying fuck

        • mickysavage 8.2.1.1

          Oops editor lost some text.  I meant to say …
           
          As long as all donations above a nominal value are transparent who gives a flying fuck
           
          Anyone with a concern about the health of their democracy.

          • higherstandard 8.2.1.1.1

            So how will this work ?

            We currently fund these turds during the election campaign based on the number of MPs, if you’re wanting to increase this funding by how much … why do they need more money ?

            • Draco T Bastard 8.2.1.1.1.1

              I don’t see MS saying that funding should be increased.

          • Adolph Koshler 8.2.1.1.2

            I am, how many more MPs have to go to prison before we can put a stop to the complete arrogance of these people over immigration. First Philip Field and now Jones, when will the corruption stop. There needs to be a complete investigation into the behavior of the Immigration department and all respective ministers regardless of political party.

      • Colonial Viper 8.2.2

        Yeah public funding of political parties. And limit donations from legal entities and persons to $200 each per party per election year.

        • Draco T Bastard 8.2.2.1

          Legal entities shouldn’t be allowed to make donations at all.

          • higherstandard 8.2.2.1.1

            Trade Unions ?

            • McFlock 8.2.2.1.1.1

              Included. Just as long as corporations, anonymous trusts and loud rich pricks have to play be the same rules.

            • KJT 8.2.2.1.1.2

              Non democratic entities not allowed to make donations?

              • Draco T Bastard

                Gets too wishy washy. Just watch as the boards of major corporations say that they’re a democratic entity and thus should be allowed to donate in the name of the corporation.

            • Draco T Bastard 8.2.2.1.1.3

              Are a legal entity and thus would not be allowed to make donations. Of course, nothing stopping the unions from discussing which would be the best party from their POV and recommending that the individuals make a donation to that party. Nor is there anything preventing the union from running their own political campaign.

              • higherstandard

                So you’re against Presland’s proposal ?

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Nope, I actually think that political parties should be government funded with the exact same funding.

            • mickysavage 8.2.2.1.1.4

              Trade Unions ?

              Yep.  Only in RWNJ land do some think that the Service and Food Workers Union have the same resources as Fletcher Challenge, Sky City, Telecom, Todd Corporation …

              • higherstandard

                So let me get this right in your funding utopia individuals can’t donate, neither can private companies but it’s OK for unions to do so…….. partisan much Greg ?

      • felix 8.2.3

        “Oh fuck off, the public fund the vast amount of cost for these fuck wits at present”

        So what’s the problem then?

        • higherstandard 8.2.3.1

          None, apart from Greg wanting to tap the public for a top up and only being interested in skewing the rules to suit his usual partisan hackery.

    • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 8.3

      Last time the state funded Jones he spent it all on porn.

      • KJT 8.3.1

        So what. He was paying it back before he was asked.

        As the saying goes: “there are two types of people, there’s wankers and there’s liars”.

        Meanwhile. When are Banks and Brash going to be indited for financial fraud?
        A polite term for a white collar bank robber.

        • Jared 8.3.1.1

          Financial Fraud? You mean Electoral Fraud right?

          • Carol 8.3.1.1.1

            No, it’s related to Banks and Brash’s business dealings for a company where other directors have been charged with fraud.

      • What – ALL of it?! Millions of dollars on porn?? Wow – what a stud!!

  9. The Baron 9

    Right, so Jones acted on an unsubstantiated claim from the benefactor, that in no way has any bearing on immigration processes. Nothing in this post touches on the allegations of what Labour got in return. Pretty selective treatment of the story.

    Rob, your post smacks of “its AOK when my team does it”. Partisan fanboi-ery is just so, so lame.

    But positive questions time: Why do we need Ministerial involvement in immigration cases? Why can this not be left to Immigration without oversight – let the officials do their job according to the relevant legislation; and let the pollies set the relevant legislation?

    The only reason I can see for political interferance here is to allow for favours to be done. Why would we want that, regardless of which govt is doing it?

    • Pascal's bookie 9.1

      Laid a complaint with the police?

      Anyone?

      Why not?

      • higherstandard 9.1.1

        Has anyone done that with Banks yet ?

        Personally I think they’re both dodgy.

        • Jackal 9.1.1.1

          Yes! I think there are three complaints that have been laid and the Police are investigating.

        • Pascal's bookie 9.1.1.2

          Yep, they are. Google

          police investigating john banks

          for details.

          • higherstandard 9.1.1.2.1

            I have a recollection they are from that moon bat Penny Bright, shouldn’t Labour or someone like the electoral commission do it ?

            • Pascal's bookie 9.1.1.2.1.1

              This sort of thing you mean?

              Mallard wrote to Auckland Council’s chief electoral officer, Bruce Thomas, yesterday asking him to investigate.

              “Transparency around election donations is a major protection against corruption in the New Zealand political system,” said Mallard.

              Thomas said he referred the matter to police as required when a written complaint is received.

              Yeah, someone should get on to that.

              • higherstandard

                So the moon bat and the duck who continues to dodge being served……. fuck between the two major parties and the other leeches no wonder the public have long since given up on the politicians.

            • Adolph Koshler 9.1.1.2.1.2

              No one would believe Penny Bright. There needs to be a proper complaint made.

              • Pascal's bookie

                Like from, say, Auckland Council’s chief electoral officer, Bruce Thomas?

                Done.

        • Draco T Bastard 9.1.1.3

          Yep, Penny Bright has laid at least two and there are others.

      • The Baron 9.1.2

        Why not? Don’t give that much of a fuck and its not my job. I’m still allowed to comment on a blog though right?

        The whole “tell the cops” comeback is really lame, PB.

        • Pascal's bookie 9.1.2.1

          Really?

          You give enough of a fuck to comment about it, saying iit’s all very murky, and implying outright corruption.

          Never said you can’t comment.

          I’m just curious as to why there haven’t been any complaints lodged with anyone, by anyone; seeing so many poeple think it’s a big enough deal to be talking about.

          Sorry if that curiousity offends you Baron.

    • Jackal 9.2

      Because of people like Mary Anne Thompson. I think Ministerial oversight is appropriate, being that they are meant to be representatives of the public and the public often has a different opinion to what Immigration believes.

      Rob, your post smacks of “its AOK when my team does it”.

      I don’t think so. In comparison John Banks is under investigation by the Police for serious issues that have corroborating evidence. Jones is not and there is as yet no evidence of wrongdoing. All politicians should be held to the same high standard.

      • higherstandard 9.2.1

        That is some of the weakest cak you’ve ever posted, which is saying something.

        • Jackal 9.2.1.1

          Which part? The fact that Banks is under investigation by the Police while Jones isn’t or that I think Immigration should not be an autonomous organisation… or that I think all politicians should adhere and be accountable to the same principles and rules? All pretty reasonable assertions if you ask me.

          • higherstandard 9.2.1.1.1

            The fact that you use MA Thompson to make a smear of incompetence or possibly corruption in relation to the advice supplied in this case.

            The fact that Banks is under investigation by the police while Jones isn’t may be down to mere timing both are dodgy items.

            • Jackal 9.2.1.1.1.1

              So let me get this right… There is presently no clear cut evidence of Shane Jones’ wrongdoing and John Key thinks he should be stood down, while John Banks stinks so much he would make a turd smell good and he gets to waft around the place?

              Such things might be down to timing, but yet again it might be down to evidence of wrongdoing. As there is no real evidence of wrongdoing by Jones, nobody has made a police complaint. If people truly think Jones is corrupt, they should do the right thing and make a Police complaint. Put your moralistic pontifications where your mouths are.

              I supplied a reason for why Immigration shouldn’t be autonomous. I haven’t seen their advice in relation to this matter or implied that it might be incompetent or corrupt… so what are you on about HS?

              • higherstandard

                Banks is still there because he is ACT and they need the numbers, he’ll be found not guilty by the police because our legislation surrounding anonymous donations and the like are laughable and more so at local body level.

                Shane Jones is still there because Shearer and his troops are still cogitating and waiting to see which way the wind blows. In terms of granting citizenship to any person I think it is a very slippery slope to be ignoring the advice of the Ministry or to be allowing any MP to be lobbying the Minister.

                • Jackal

                  There’s nothing wrong with the legislation. It’s clear and precise for anybody who bothers to read it. The problem is that Banks chose not to adhere to it and it appears that he offered political favours when he got back into power in exchange for cash.

              • grumpy

                Banks was only a private citizen standing for Mayor of Auckland.

                Jones was a Minister of the Crown, acting within his portfolio.

              • At least Shane Jones has a better memory and can recall situations four years ago.

                Banks couldn’t recall a helicopter flight, to one of Auckland’s biggest mansions, to meet a rather large German web entrepreneur with a thing for red sportscars…

                Yeah, right.:-D

        • bbfloyd 9.2.1.2

          and resorting to abuse every time your own non existent arguments are shot to bits isn’t weak … little one? young TS …. do you ever actually listen to yourself? try it sometime.. you might be surprised at how silly you sound in real life…

      • The Baron 9.2.2

        I forgot about M.A.T., but still think immigration can be done better than allowing one official/poli unfettered ability to override things. Here’s one such suggestion – a cross parliamentary oversight panel has to approve exceptions to officials advice?

        I couldn’t care less about this whole JB vs MJ “who is worse” angle. In my book both are shits. Are you happy now? Polies on both sides sell us out, but still time for us to choose which one we like best based on our pre-determined political alignment.What a fucking wicked day it is.

    • r0b 9.3

      Rob, your post smacks of “its AOK when my team does it”.

      You mean the part where I said: “I’m glad Jones is open to an investigation. That’s the right course of action, and if he is found to have acted unethically he should go.” ??

      • The Baron 9.3.1

        I genuinely didn’t think you’d agree with me here anyway – fanbois always argue they ain’t fanbois after all – but sure, if that’s your balance then good luck with that.

  10. Bored 10

    It was all too easy for the hypocritical Key to have a go at Shane Jones. Lets just contrast the two:

    Jones as minister over rules his public servant advisors because he is faced with the possibility that sending a man back to China might (note might, no proof but a fair chance) result in the man being shot. He did not take the risk, life was probably adjudged to be more precious than “rules”. Humanity at the risk of being wrong prevailed.

    Key as PM was prevailed upon by Sri Lanka refugees who genuinely feared for their lives in a war zone. Key said no, hid behind the rules, preferring to gamble that these people would survive. No compassion ruled here despite the example NZ showed of allowing entry to his mother, a Jew whom Hitler would have gladly exterminated.

    Key and humanitarianism? Make your own minds up.

  11. tsmithfield 11

    And this article?

    Mr Phillips – also known as Shane Te Pou – told the court that he met Yan at a Labour Party fundraiser in Auckland’s Viaduct Harbour in March 2005 that he helped organise.

    He chatted with Yan for no more than 15 minutes and later invited him to join other guests for dinner and drinks.A few weeks later, Mr Phillips met Yan and his partner Vienna Yu at their penthouse apartment in the Metropolis tower, before having dinner together at a restaurant.

    At that meal, the topic of citizenship was discussed and Mr Phillips offered to help Yan obtain citizenship for a fee of $10,000 – half to be paid as a deposit. Asked by David Jones why he offered to help, Mr Phillips said Yan was a “man of success”.

    I can stand corrected, but as I understand it, Phillips has close ties to Labour and to Jone’s office.

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      Shane Te Pou is damn dodgy.

      • tsmithfield 11.1.1

        Yeah. Personally, I am not convinced that Jones is the source of any corruption, if it in fact it had occurred. If there has been corruption, it might well have occurred further down the food chain. Perhaps various MP’s have been spun a line here, and conned into supporting Yan.

        • bbfloyd 11.1.1.1

          nice bit of backpedalling there TS…. something finally broke through the crust….

  12. prism 12

    It’s all good media beatup stuff. Reminds me of an olde songe – from mudcat.org
    THE JONES BOY
    Manny Kurtz/Victor Mizzy
    As sung by the Mills Brothers with Sy Oliver and his Orchestra, Decca 28945, circa 1953?
    The whole town’s talkin’ about the Jones boy,
    The Jones boy, the Jones boy.
    The whole town’s talkin’ about the Jones boy.
    He acts mighty peculiar now.

    The whole town’s sayin’ he was a good boy,
    A nice boy, a swell boy.
    The whole town’s sayin’ he’s not a well boy.
    He just isn’t the same somehow.

    I hope he does keep his standing – I thought he would be a swell boy and be in the new Labour lineup when they (whoever?) get stuck in and do it.

    • Sam Hall 12.1

      If ever their was a man likely to perpetuate the cultural practice of “consuming” your mana, it is this man, and that Solomon

  13. Enough is Enough 13

    This is bad and Shearer should be front footing it rather than defending Jones.

    Saying Jones followed due process is missing the point. The Nats followed due process with Crafar. It was the wrong decision there and one they will thrown out of office for.

    Labour could get on the absolute moral high ground here and contrast themselves with Key/Banks. Instead they are using the same defensive techniques which makes the ‘scandal’ drag on.

    Losing Jones would be no loss to the labour movement. Kick him to the curb, show we are above the Nats dodge and run tactics and kill the story.

    Did the party, and some commentators from here learn, nothing with Peters the saga? Perception carries weight in politics. Learn that fundamental lesson please.

  14. Blue 14

    As I understand it, the facts on the table when Shane Jones made his decision were thus:

    The guy in question looked pretty dodgy, but all the allegations against him were unproven. There were strong official submissions that the man was likely to be tortured and killed if he was returned to China, and he had a wife and kids.

    Shane Jones decided to err on the side of humanity because of the lack of evidence.

    The only reason I can see that this has become an issue is because someone alleged that Jones made the decision overnight (whereas he claims he had the file for a month before making the decision) and that the guy gave money to Labour (and there is no evidence that Shane Jones knew anything about that). And because it’s Shane Jones and he will never live down the porn movie expenses bill. Easy to make him look dodgy.

    As far as I can see, Shane Jones has no case to answer.

    • tsmithfield 14.1

      But didn’t he already have residency which entitled him to stay anyway? Why would granting citizenship be necessary to achieve this goal? Surely amnesty would have been the way to go if that was a concern.

      • tsmithfield 14.1.1

        I meant asylum above, not amnesty, but can’t edit my comments for some reason.

        As I said above, I don’t necessarily believe that Jones has acted improperly, but that he and other MP’s may well have been spun a line by individuals lower down in the food chain.

        Afterall, as I commented earlier, it doesn’t look like Yan was particularly worried about going back to China because, according to him, he was planning a trip back there.

  15. gareth 15

    I may well have this wrong but….
    Banks is in the gun for not declaring his donations, not lobbying govt officials in an attempt to get Dotcom residency/citizenship/permission to buy the mansion. It seems there was enough murk surrounding him that Simon Power? refused to sign off.

    Jones signed off on a guy that is seemingly just as murky as Dotcom after been lobbied by people with connections to himself namely Dover Samuels and Shane Te Pou. It appears that they received considerable sums of money to ‘grease the wheels’
    Now that’s not a lot different to how immigration consultants work. Some of which are former govt officials who know how the system works.

    So the only thing I can see that’s happened is Shane Jones has allowed his judgement to be clouded by his associates who were beneficiaries of Yong Ming Yans generosity. Not illegal but it does have a whiff off citizenship for sale….

    • tsmithfield 15.1

      I was right in my comment above:

      Yan already had permanent residency. So why did he need citizenship to protect him from the nefarious Chinese? It wasn’t like he was going to get shipped back or anything. So what Jones says doesn’t add up.

      And what was with the citizenship ceremony that was held at the request of Dover Samuels? Is that normal for people who get citizenship?

      • TheContrarian 15.1.1

        My wife is from South Africa and her brother recently got citizenship – no party with Labour for him. 

        • Jackal 15.1.1.1

          You mean he didn’t attend the ceremony (party) given to all successful applicants? According to the rules, you have to swear to obey the laws of New Zealand etc before you can become a citizen. I guess your brother in law isn’t a real New Zealand citizen then The Comedian. Lol!

        • Adolph Koshler 15.1.1.2

          To get a party with one of the Political party’s you have to donate significant donations to their cause.

    • Pascal's bookie 15.2

      Not illegal but it does have a whiff off citizenship for sale….

      If you like that you also might like our immigration policy.

  16. David C 16

    Fron Stuff..

    “Mr Jones admitted he knew there were questions about Yan’s identity. “I certainly know that there was a live issue as to whether or not this man is who he says he was … there was always a mystery … Those were allegations.”

    So Jones signs off on it within a day, no questions asked.

    Jones is fucked.

    • Ross 16.1

      Jones was apparently given the file on July 14 and citizenship approved on August 6. By my calculations, that is more than one day.

      http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/news/shane-jones-has-leaders-support/1388850/

      • David C 16.1.1

        According to the Dom Post…

        “According to evidence presented to the High Court in Auckland last week, Mr Jones was told in 2008 that Yan was the subject of Interpol Red Notices based on arrest warrants issued in China and that the Internal Affairs Department did not know who he was because he had two passports, two names and two birth dates. Yet Mr Jones approved his application one day after receiving his file.”

        • TheContrarian 16.1.1.1

          Fact is it shouldn’t have been approved – one day or not.

          • David C 16.1.1.1.1

            So when Geoff May, Secretary for Internal Affairs, reccomends that the application be declined, as he does not meet the good character test, based on the facts that the applicant runs under 3 different names and passports, is subject to an interpol red notice and arrest warrant, is accused of fraud for 10,000,000 RNB in China and is currently being invesigated for NZ immigration fraud these things shouldnt have made Jones go ummmmm….

            But nah, Dover said he is a good bastard so I will sign off on it!

            • Jackal 16.1.1.1.1.1

              Funny! I can’t seem to find a quote by Jones saying Yan is a “good bastard”. You wouldn’t be making stuff up now would you David C? Jones did say that he made the decision on humanitarian grounds… you know, the bit where an Internal Affairs official told him that Yan would be arrested, convicted, executed, and his organs harvested if he was sent back to China.

              • David C

                Jackal, would you like to show me a shred of proof of this claim?

                “the bit where an Internal Affairs official told him that Yan would be arrested, convicted, executed, and his organs harvested if he was sent back to China.”

                because I think it is total utter bullshit.

                • Jackal

                  The note hasn’t been released to the public yet… so your question is a straw-man. Clearly what Jones has said is infinitely more believable than what you’re reporting he said David C. Good bastard… Don’t make me laugh!

                  • David C

                    so did Internal Affairs “tell him” or was there a note? which one?
                    any such note certanly wasnt attached to the recomendation to decline along with all the other relevant documents, which it would have been if it existed, which it doesnt.

                    No one was trying to send him back and even if the Chinese did ask for him we would have gotten an assurance that the death denalty would not be applied.

                    as I said, total utter bullshit.

                    • Jackal

                      The old absence of proof categorically means it doesn’t exist trick… come on David C, this is not preschool… and what are you asking me straw-men questions for that I cannot possibly answer? You know what is really balderdash around here, is all your speculation based on nothing but imagination.

                    • David C

                      Jackal, the report from Internal Affairs specifically adresses the (lack of) humanitarian grounds to grant citizenship and recomends to decline.

                      So once again I say, its total utter bullshit.

                    • Jackal

                      What? It was recommended that he be declined for not meeting the Good Character as defined by section 8 (1)(c) of the Citizens Act 1977 (PDF) assessment because of the allegations made by the Chinese government.

                      Keep in mind that China is a country where thousands of people go missing every year and the justice system is very harsh. Yan has no convictions btw and it’s likely he did have grounds to fear for his life.

                      Internal Affairs did not consider humanitarian grounds in declining his application at all, while Jones did when he approved it. So WTF David C?

              • David C

                http://www.investigatemagazine.com/jonesfile.pdf

                The papers that show the recomendation to decline.

                • Bored

                  How interesting Dave C. Had a good read. Now read this re Chinese capital crimes.
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China

                  So reading the document it appears clear that by the letter of the regulations Yan was ineligible for residency UNLESS over ruled by the Minister at his discretion.

                  There are three letters attached, two from fellow Labour MPs and one from a National MP stating that they think the man should stay as he has demonstrated good nature and good deeds within his community.

                  Put yourself in Jones shoes: you know about the Chinese legal system and penalties. You have letters from three MPs supporting Yan. And you are aware that if Mr Yan gets shot you are going to get scrutinised big time. Might you err toward caution? Might you also not want to have blood on your hands? Might you not consider the impact upon the Chinese business community and their willingness to invest in NZ?

                  I reckon Jones was in a no win position and did what he thought best. For that National and its trolls are running a witch hunt as smoke screen for the criminal activities of John Banks because to enable the larcenous rort of NZs assets Key needs his vote.

                  • David C

                    Bored, you totally lost me.

                    He already had permanant residency, he had been here since 2001.

                    What he did not have was a NZ passport.
                    Why did he get one? given that he is clearly unfit.

                    • David C

                      and nah no smoke screen to save Banks. He is a short arsed dickhead I hope he gets the arse.

                      There is however a witchhunt to get rid of Jones :-) and he will take Shearer with him.

                      and when Crusher kicks Chicken Littles and Yellow Ducks arses that will be 4 gone for good.

                      Yippeee !

                    • Jackal

                      Your imagination is getting the better of you again David C.

                    • Bored

                      Go back to school and do some English comprehension.

                    • felix

                      Lolz if there’s no smokescreen then why would tsmithfield be posting all day on it? He only ever turns up when the govt need some covering fire.

                    • Adolph Koshler

                      We know why he got a passport. Because Jones took notes, lots and lots of notes. They all had famous kiwi faces on them.

              • Did the Internal Affairs official tell Jones that Jackal, or did the IA official tell Jones that Liu had said that? There’s a whole world of difference.

                But it ought not have mattered anyway, as Liu was already a NZ permanent resident, so the question of him being deported to China hadn’t even eventuated.

              • David C

                Jackal, you should read what I actually wrote.

                but Dover didnt say “he is a good bastard” (I was paraphrasing somewhat) but he did actually say” He is a bloody good bloke”

            • Ross 16.1.1.1.1.2

              I prefer that Ministers make their own decisions rather than leave it to unelected officials. I don’t recall voting for Geoff May. Or are you suggesting that we should get rid of every MP and leave it to officials to implement policy?

              • David C

                Ross, you think an MP has the time to do a due and dilligant investigation of his/her own into every trivial thing? ever heard of deligation? isnt that why we have staff? to do stuff for us? write reports, sumarise and recomend?

                and IF Jones has weighty evidence that goes agaisnt the Ministrys recomendation where the fuck is it?

  17. Adrian 17

    Is’nt Yan’s wife and children NZ’ers ? Can you imagine the shitfight now if he was sent back, and shot because he fucked off someone like.. oh,say, one of those Chinese Government arseholes who is trying really hard to disguise exactly who is buying up stuff like the Crafer farms?
    And who in the ministry is spreading the lie about the “one day” thing? Somebody who owes more to Chinese Govt pressure than to his/her own country?

    • “Can you imagine the shitfight now if he was sent back, and shot because he fucked off someone like.. oh,say, one of those Chinese Government arseholes who is trying really hard to disguise exactly who is buying up stuff like the Crafer farms?”

      You mean one of those people in China he defrauded for millions of dollars? And do you think a guy worried about being shot in China would plainly speak about going back to China? No, no, this whole getting shot in China thing is a red herring

  18. r0b 18

    See update added to the post.

    • Chris 18.1

      That doesn’t answer the part about how he was already allowed to stay in NZ as a permenant resident. Why did he need citizenship to protect him from the death penalty?

      • happynz 18.1.1

        OK, just thinking out loud here…Yes, even if he had permanent residency he was still a Chinese citizen. As China does not recognise dual nationality, upon taking the oath of New Zealand citizenship he in effect renounced his Chinese citizenship, thus giving him more security of a sort being here in New Zealand as a citizen rather than a permanent resident.

        • Chris 18.1.1.1

          Security from what? It’s already been shown we don’t extradite anyone if they will be executed.

          • Pascal's bookie 18.1.1.1.1

            Just asking, but seeing this seems to be such an important point, what protection does permanent residency actually confer? same as citizenship? or quite a bit less?

            Weren’t immigration digging to see if they could chuck him out?

            • Chris 18.1.1.1.1.1

              From the links provided above NZ will not extradite any person if they have or may be sentenced to death – this includes anyone not just citizens (citizens are specifically mentioned for other things). So no extra protection

              • Pascal's bookie

                Yeah, I get that. But extradition isn’t what I’m wondering about. Immigration were looking into him weren’t they?

                Didn’t Cunliffe tell them to’ keep digging’ or some such, because they hadn’t come up with enough for him to revoke residency or whatever?

                • If the fear genuinely was that his residency was going to be removed (and hence his right to stay in NZ ended), then it seems a bit odd to upgrade his status to full citizen.
                  I mean, how would that be justified? “There is a risk we might decide you are not deserving of permanent residence and so get deported back to China … so I’ll say you are deserving enough to be a full citizen of the country.” A bit odd, no?

                  • Pascal's bookie

                    Yeah, it’s odd, & am not trying to defend Jones from, whatever it is people are not quite getting around alledging he did, I’m just wondering if permanent residency isn’t the same thing as citizenship, which is what people seem to be saying. So there might well have been reasons he’d want the latter.

                    • Oh, I’m sure there are reasons why he (Yan) would want citizenship in NZ – the passport is nice, etc. The question is, why would Jones want to give it to him? And the argument “to save him being kicked out of NZ to face a grisly death in China” just doesn’t seem a very good one … as lots of people have said, permanent residency already means you can’t be “kicked out”, and the avenue for avoiding deportation if that residency is revoked (for any reason) is asylum – not citizenship. So – yeah … something doesn’t match up.

                      That said, maybe Jones really just thought that the Immigration officials were being pricks to Yan and, rather than leave him at their (perceived) mercy, decided to take him out of their hands. But even if this was the case, I don’t think that’s an excuse Jones could put up … “I let Mr Yan stay to show those pesky officials who really runs things round here” … because it turned out to be a pretty bad call (and hence would make his judgment look pretty weak).

    • But didn’t he also say he was going back to China himself? Seems somebody has got something wrong somewhere 

    • David C 18.3

      yeah r0b? so what?

      Who was trying to throw him out? he had been in the country since 2001 (apart from when he was flitting back and forth to China to do deals)

      • Jackal 18.3.1

        What are you guys whinging at r0b for?

        Chris: Somebody is liable for deportation if their refugee and/or protection status is cancelled. Gaining New Zealand citizenship would have stopped this from occurring.

        TheContrarian: There appears to be a big difference between what Yan told officials on various occasions… hence the trial.

        David C: Being that People who are found to have committed immigration fraud can become liable for deportation, the real question is will he be sent back to China if there’s any chance that he will be killed?

        • KJT 18.3.1.1

          Apart from anything else, I do not think we should be extraditing people to anywhere they are risking torture, kangaroo courts or the death penalty.

          Straight out human rights issue.

          • tsmithfield 18.3.1.1.1

            He was a permanent resident prior to getting citizenship. The only way he could get back to China was by buying a ticket and heading back by his own free choice.

        • David C 18.3.1.2

          well given that he was trying to board a plane out of the country when he was arrested he seems to lack any fear of going back home huh?

        • Chris 18.3.1.3

          Except if there was a reasonable suspicion that he would be put to death we would not have deported/extradited him as shown by the links from NRT.

          Citizenship didn’t change anything in this regard.

  19. David C 19

    and since he was accused of fraud in China (for quite a sum) shouldnt we have been putting him on a plane to face a court? (after assuranced of no death penalty of course)

    But no…Jones just gives it the big tick.

  20. Fortran 20

    An independant (Non Political) enquiry is required as there is a nasty smell around this.
    A QC or similar could be appointed.
    The smell has to be disbursed asap otherwise it will permeate and get stronger.

    • Kotahi Tane Huna 20.1

      Police complaint still not forthcoming from the chorous of whingers.

      Police investigations still ongoing into John Banks.

      Piss-weak attempt at diversion much?

      • TheContrarian 20.1.1

        What does Banks have to do with this? This is about Shane Jones, not Banks. 

        • Kotahi Tane Huna 20.1.1.1

          Do you believe that? How delightfully naive.

          • TheContrarian 20.1.1.1.1

            Your comment implies people on this page, which included me, were trying to divert from Banks. No one is discussing Banks and I for one hope Banks is tossed from parliament. 

        • Jackal 20.1.1.2

          Sheesh! John Key made it about John Banks by calling Shearer a hypocrite for not standing Jones down. Do you need everything explained to you The Doctrinarian?

      • Inventory2 20.1.2

        Police investigations are still ongoing for Labour Justice spokesman Charles Chauvel as well. Should HE be stood down too? After all, the allegation against him is a breach of the Electoral Act, and that’s right in the ballpark of the Justice spokesman.

        • felix 20.1.2.1

          According to John Key police investigations don’t carry much weight. Don’t think he’s ever stood someone down due to a police investigation, has he?

          I imagine he could always just get another policeman to give him an alternate summary of facts anyhow.

          • Inventory2 20.1.2.1.1

            Richard Worth?

            • Pascal's bookie 20.1.2.1.1.1

              Nope. Worth was stood down for literally unspeakable acts. Key wouldn’t tell us what vile deed led to him losing confidence in Worth, but I seem to recall him saying it wasn’t the police investigation.

            • felix 20.1.2.1.1.2

              Nope. Key refuses to say why he sacked Worth.

  21. gobsmacked 21

    I suspect Jones fronted up to the media yesterday after holding his head in his hands while he listened to David Shearer bumbling his way through Jones’ defence in various interviews on Monday (some online now I think – Checkpoint, Newstalk ZB, Radio Live etc).

    The original strategy was correct: it’s a case before the courts, await the verdict, then Jones answers all questions. Fair enough.

    Unfortunately Jones’ leader only made matters worse, giving a half-baked defence (“you’ll have to ask Shane about that” – so naturally the media did).

    Jones can explain himself well enough. His leader can’t. That’s Labour’s problem, right there.

    • tsmithfield 21.1

      He hasn’t explained himself though. As has been pointed out by a number of contributors above, the humanitarian explanation was a load of crock.

      Jones explanation suggests that if he hadn’t approved citizenship then Yan would have been shipped back to China for execution and organ extraction. However, Yan already had permanent residency, so there was no possibility of extradition back to China in any event. So there was no humanitarian reason for Jones to approve residency.

  22. Bored 22

    TS you really are a Nact troll running a witch hunt as smoke screen for the criminal activities of John Banks whose vote is needed to enable the larcenous rort of NZs assets by Key. Worse you have no compassion, given the chance you would present the man as donated organs. Or maybe not, its too easy to hold the gun, I doubt if you would have the guts to pull the trigger.

    • That’s pretty cool Bored. Expect that it has been pointed out several times that the humanitarian example is decidedly fishy and it is pretty convenient for someone to cry humanitarian grounds to avoid having to face charges of fraud in a foreign country.

      Which you accept a murderer into NZ who might face the chair in Texas (hyperbolic I know)   

      • tsmithfield 22.1.1

        Yeah, stop being such a drama queen, Bored. If Jones was motivated by humanitarian concerns, the only decision he needed to make was not to revoke residency. There was absolutely no need to approve citizenship. The explanation that Jones has given is BS, pure and simple.

      • KJT 22.1.2

        As the innocence project in the States showed, most of the black men facing the chair in Texas were probably wrongfully convicted. So. Yes.

  23. captain hook 23

    Shane Jones may not be an oily greasy national party type poltician but he is a real man.
    Not some sort of sleazy smarmy creep that the national party specialises in.

    • higherstandard 23.1

      Outstanding parody post.

    • Inverness 23.2

      Sleazy smarmy creep?
      You mean the type who while on the taxpayer pay roll uses tax payer money to fund his jackoff movies?

      thats not sleazy at all , certainly from a lefties point of view

    • Adolph Koshler 23.3

      Do you mean a real man watches porn while god knows what else on public Government business, using taxpayers money and then take bribes all the while negating the advice of the professional non political government immigration departmental professionals.

      You sir and I have a different opinion of a Real man.

      • Pascal's bookie 23.3.1

        “takes bribes” Gosh, another one that’ll be on the phone to the police I’d imagine.

  24. felix 24

    Why would anyone want to defend Shane Jones and John Banks?

  25. captain hook 25

    peace on you bro!

  26. We Live in Hope 26

    Labour need this like a hole in the head right now. Is this Jones saga going to overshadow the Budget announcement and divert the media’s limited attention away from critical debates that are needed on areas of cuts to education, health etc.

  27. Pascal's bookie 27

    Well he’s been stood down anyway.

    So hopefully now the AG is investigating, after someone finally got around to asking, we’ll find out what the hell is going on without all the political smake and mirrors and PMs calling people hypocrits and whatnot.

    • Carol 27.1

      Shearer will be on CheckPoint, RNZ just after 5.30pm.

      Good move by Shearer. Key still hasn’t stood down Banks from the cabinet.

      • gobsmacked 27.1.1

        He was on Checkpoint on Monday explaining why he HADN’T stood Jones down.

        FFS, it’s Politics 101. Work out where it’s going, then do it. Or don’t do it. But either way, don’t give your opponents a free hit for three days.

        • gobsmacked 27.1.1.1

          Heard today’s interview just now. Mary Wilson had him for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

          Shearer hasn’t got it, and so we just have to sit and wait for months while Labour work that out. Christ.

  28. Jackal 28

    Shane Jones stood down

    Labour have called in the auditor general to investigate in the Bill Liu case and stood MP Shane Jones down.

    Jones knew there were serious questions over the true identity of Chinese millionaire Yong Ming Yan, also known as Bill Liu, when he gave him a New Zealand passport.

    The news of Jones’ stand down came late this afternoon.

  29. gobsmacked 29

    The political advantage in standing Jones down was there for the taking, a few days ago.

    There’s not much to be had now. Seriously, who’s running this show?

  30. Barry 30

    I was giving Shane Jones the benefit of the doubt until he opened his mouth.

    He was not asking for asylum. Fear of persecution or execution is not grounds for giving citizenship, nor is it a reason for ignoring criminality in decision making.

    If Jones is telling the truth then he was conned big time.

    Please let’s have an investigation. It has to be a government initiated report from a QC or some other independent party. I agree with Shearer that there is no reason to damn Jones yet, but he needs to get it all out in the public and then cut him loose if it is warranted.

  31. ianmac 31

    Labour Party leader David Shearer has asked the Auditor General to investigate Shane Jones’ handling of the citizenship application of Chinese businessman William Yan in 2008 and stood him down while the inquiry takes place.

    In the Herald just now.
    A great move as it puts Key/Banks back on the spot.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10807904

    • sweetd 31.1

      The AG request is to look at the process, not the decision. Its the inquiry you have when you don’t want an inquiry.

      • Pascal's bookie 31.1.1

        maybe someone should seek to broaden the enquiry then.

        What’s stopping them?

        I’m keen to get to the bottom of it all.

        Where’s the government?

        Can’t they launch an enquiry of some sort?

    • Herodotus 31.2

      ianmac disagree- all it does is display that Shearer has changed his opinion based on public perception. Nothing has changed from when Shearer went eye to eye with Jones and got his assurances.
      As time goes one more questions are raised than answered. For me what official said “Mr Jones says he was told that Mr Yan would be “jailed, executed and his organs harvested” if he was sent back to China.”
      “That to me comprised grounds for a humanitarian decision,” Mr Jones says.(Sourced from The Jackal)
      So what was this danger, and if so why was it reported -”He (Yan) said he had a lot of support from members of Parliament … He was going to take them to China.”
      Not the actions you would think was appropriate if your body parts were wanted by the Chinese govt?
      Another case of a side show distraction conceived by labour and mismanaged by a changing their position when National are exposed (This time re the Budget).

    • Adolph Koshler 31.3

      Hoooray, That makes corruption go away. Lets all hide our head in the sand, it never happend.

      I hope Shearer is being honest here and not playing silly games. An investigation needs to begin now to find out who is involved.

  32. Vicky32 32

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  33. David C 33

    Well Shearer gets one point for integrity, one more than Helen ever got.

    • David C 33.1

      Silent T has cut Jones adrift!

      “I’m not aware of the grounds Mr Jones considered,” he says. “That’s a matter for Mr Jones.”

      tooo funny.

  34. Roflcopter 34

    The terms of reference Shearer is talking about are a crock of shit.

    Noone is debating the process, I’m sure he followed it 100%. The issue is the murkiness surrounding the decision to go against all advice and grant Liu citizenship.

    All Labour are doing is dragging out the inevitable to try and hide a few other skeletons in the closet in this whole affair.

    Go right ahead, and make sure you’ve got plenty of popcorn handy, coz this is bound to get better.

    • tsmithfield 34.1

      I agree. It also allows them to shut down questions on the issue on the basis that “the auditor general is inquiring into it”.

      However, I disagree on the issue of process, because I think Jones might well come unstuck there.

      If the only reason he approved citizenship was due to his humanitarian concerns about Yan or whatever his name is, being shipped back to China, executed and harvested for organs, then all Jones needed to do was to continue his residency status. There was no need whatsoever to take the extra step of approving citizenship. I am sure the auditor general will grasp this in an instant.

      • Inventory2 34.1.1

        Absolutely right tsmithfield. Yan/Liu was already a permanent resident of NZ, and would have to have had his residence revoked and be served with a Removal Order before shipping him back to China would even have been contemplated.

        • felix 34.1.1.1

          What exactly stands in the way of having one’s residence revoked?

          • Inventory2 34.1.1.1.1

            Lengthy court proceedings Felix. By the time the revokation and the Removal Order were contested, appealed then appealed to a higher court, it would be easy to see several years pass by.

            • felix 34.1.1.1.1.1

              So time.

              But apart from the time it takes, what actually materially stops one’s residency being revoked?

          • David C 34.1.1.1.2

            well felix, it looks like a fundraiser or two and a contribution to an MP or two will stand in the way of having residency revoked.

          • tsmithfield 34.1.1.1.3

            A quite acceptable way for Jones to have handled it would be to have made a decision along the lines of:

            1. There are a number of aspects to this application that concern me sufficiently so as not to approve citizenship.
            2. On the other hand, I am concerned about issues raised about Yan’s safety should he be deported to China should his residency be revoked.
            3. Therefore my decision is to decline citizenship at this stage, but to also indicate that no application to revoke residency will be considered until I am satisfied that Yan will be safe should he be deported to China.

      • twisted hive 34.1.2

        You’re right tsmithfield in that it allows Shearer to shut down questions about Jones.

        But it also opens Shearer himself right up for questions.

        What did he know when?
        Why didn’t he stand Jones earlier?
        What specific information caused him to elevate the problem to the AG?
        Isn’t the AG move an admission of failure of his own leadership skills?

        On top of that, you’ve got to wonder what Labour were thinking handing the government a dead fish to slap them around with – an admission, or at least perception of admission, of serious misconduct – the day before the budget?

  35. Adolph Koshler 35

    This selling citizenship for cash is disgraceful we are now no different than third world countries where backhanders and payoffs are compulsory.

    No wonder people are taking off overseas. What happened to the honest Kiwi! Very sad indeed.

  36. Adolph Koshler 36

    Good old Rick Barker is a good mate eh! Passed it on to Shane Jones to do the dodgy work, apparently he knew this guy too well. He must be laughing all the way to the bank. I think there are quite a few mixed up in this corruption.

    The truth needs to come out.

  37. Hulun Phallis 37

    IrishBill: Banned for good for being a dullard.

    • prism 37.1

      What a strange pseudonym. What does it mean? Are you a conspiracy theorist? Questions probably without answers.

      [lprent: I means that one of my unfavorite trolls has escaped into the site. I will hunt him down later and eject him back to his lonely self-abuse. Looks like Irish already killed the comment. I'll add his portal to the bans. ]

    • Pascal's bookie 37.2

      haha—>” treason”.

      Good one.

      Obviously, as a patriot, you’ll be doing something about that right?

      What sort of person would suspect treason and not go the police, at the very least?

  38. Georgecom 38

    Shearer called for Banks to be stood down and investigated.
    Key refused.
    The jones issue blew up.
    Shearer said he backed the process Jones took, if not the decision made.
    Key said it was a hypocritical position.
    Shearer has now stood Jones down and called for an investigation.

    Question: Will Mister Key do the same with John Banks?

    hypocrisy?

    • Pascal's bookie 38.1

      Scott Yorke has highlighted how similar the cases are:

      http://www.imperatorfish.com/2012/05/yes-this-is-just-same.html

    • David C 38.2

      hypocricy? nope not a bit.

      Banks was a private indivual that did some advocacy on behalf of Dotcom. Banks had no power over the outcome.
      Jones was a Minister and made a bizzzare call to grant a person accused of fraud in 2 countries citizenship after a letter from his mate Dover. How much $$ was paid is unclear.

      Feild is doing time for the same thing isnt he?

      • mickysavage 38.2.1

        What difference is there that Banks was a “private individual”?  And in any event wasn’t he the Mayor of Auckland at the time?

      • Georgecom 38.2.2

        Shearer called for Banks to be stood down and investigated.
        Key refused.
        The jones issue blew up.
        Shearer said he backed the process Jones took, if not the decision made.
        Key said it was a hypocritical position.
        Shearer has now stood Jones down and called for an investigation.

        Question: Will Mister Key do the same with John Banks?

  39. David C 39

    Three months later, bank accounts he held in Australia were frozen and in June 2007, $4m was sent to the Chinese Government. Yan was not convicted of any offence – he agreed to the repatriation without an admission of liability – but allegations swirling around him were so serious immigration officials suggested his permanent residency be revoked.

    It just gets better….

  40. Adolph Koshler 40

    Who was the Labour party fundraiser at the time, they must know where all this money was coming from?

  41. Gee the right wingers are like pigs in muck over this.  I look forward to them enjoying the Banks scandal that is brewing away ready to erupt …

  42. Jester 42

    “… Under those circumstances there’s a clear humanitarian case. So clear, in fact, that it would be unlawful to remove Liu from the country. We don’t extradite people to execution. We don’t deport them to it either. Any Minister in Jones’ position would have made exactly the same decision. And if not, the courts would have made it for them.”

    Um, we may need to rethink that train of thought.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/north-shore-times/343543/Christian-refugee-sent-back-to-Iran

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/north-shore-times/351966/Torture-possible-in-Iran

  43. Adam 43

    Since when have contributors to this site had such faith in the veracity of officials? These guys are standing on their hind legs in court making statements about what Liu/Yan said to them four years ago (which they didn’t think to minute at the time or hand over to the defence during discovery). They are making allegations about the conduct of a former minister who has not been called as a defendant or a witness, which on simple factual matters like timing turn out to be bollocks. And they have been leaking to Wishart from day one in an effort to pressure/punish said minister. And the Chinese have failed to pursue this supposed major fraud case. Don’t you think something fails the sniff test?

  44. chris73 44

    Move along, nothing to see here, he was just guilty of being helpful etc etc

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    ‘Explosive’ is one of those words that gets kicked around in politics and political reporting to the point where it’s almost lost its meaning. But it’s not an exaggeration to describe right wing spin doctor and self-declared National Party loyalist...
    The Paepae | 31-08
  • Jerome Mika: Labour’s candidate in Papakura
    Jerome Mika was just dashing home on Friday for a quick change prior to the launch of Labour’s Pasifika policy at Auckland’s oldest bilingual pre-school, A'oga Fa’a Samoa at Richmond Road Primary School.  He likes the choice of venue: all levels of...
    Labour campaign | 31-08
  • Is the NZ National Gov’t, One of the Most Corrupt in the World?
    There are two main types of corruption.  Whether it be  economic or moral, they are as bad as each other in regards to the consequences they can wreak. As we have seen over the last two weeks or so, as...
    An average kiwi | 31-08
  • Sad news – Victor Stenger has died
    I was sad to read that Victor Stenger died during the week at the age of 79. Victor was a prolific author, writing on science, religion and philosophy. He often dealt with difficult issues coming out of the religion-science debates...
    Open Parachute | 31-08
  • Enemies without and enemies within
    Yesterday, when the news of Judith Collins’ resignation broke, I asked where the Cameron Slater email had come from. It hadn’t been released by Whaledump, and it hadn’t featured in Dirty Politics. Instead, it had been sent to the Prime Minister’s...
    Occasionally erudite | 31-08
  • The Red, the Green and the Blue:….Left Bloc / Right Bloc Monthly Pol...
    Following on from the previous post, here are the Monthly Poll Averages (since April) for both (1) The Four Largest Parties and (2) The Left and Right Blocs.You can see from Table (1) that Labour's monthly average has been falling...
    Sub zero politics | 31-08
  • Airplane fares reveal the value of time… and the importance of choice
    High airplane fares are in the media this week, as Air New Zealand is about to pay a special dividend after a 45% increase in profits. Some people have suggested that the airline should cut fares on regional routes instead....
    Transport Blog | 31-08
  • Hard News: Why we thought what we thought
    Matt Nippert must hardly have been able to to believe his luck yesterday when the latest source in the dizzying Dirty Politics drama -- Prime Minister John Key -- produced the email that, according to Key, finally exhausted Justice minister...
    Public Address | 31-08
  • Cameron Slater – lies, or the art of puffery?
    Cameron Slater’s email to Carrick Graham, Mark possibly-Hochin and one mystery identity may have sunk Judith Collins’ political career, but Slater is standing steadfastly by her. Reading a pre-prepared statement yesterday, and taking a few media questions, he denied that...
    Occasionally erudite | 31-08
  • Left, Right / Left, Right / Left, Right….
    Having set-out the poll-by-poll stats for the four largest Parties (see Overview post) and for the various minor parties (see Santa's Little Helpers post), it's probably well past time to do the same for Left Bloc/Right Bloc support (by far...
    Sub zero politics | 30-08
  • Blue on blue
    From today's Sunday Star-Times story on the events that precipitated Judith Collins' resignation:...
    Pundit | 30-08
  • National Party Beehive Meeting – 30/08/2014 re: Judith Collins
    What follows is a transcript of a meeting between some senior National Party figures held early Saturday morning New Zealand time. TAPE BEGINS Footsteps and doors opening and closing. Chairs shifting. Various mutterings about a left-wing conspiracy.  JOHN KEY: Good...
    My Thinks | 30-08
  • Queens Wharf Traffic Changes
    In accessing Queens wharf on foot most people flow straight from the intersection of Queen St and Quay St as it is the most direct route. The only problem is that it’s also the entrance and exit on to the...
    Transport Blog | 30-08
  • Judith Collins be gone
    I was in Taneatua for a rendezvous when someone came up clasping their mobile phone and told me Judith Collins has just resigned.  Wow, Key finally pulled the trigger.  The roadshow was coming to Whakatane and Kim Dotcom and the...
    Tumeke | 30-08
  • 2014 SkS Weekly News Roundup #35B
    Antarctic riddle: How much will the South Pole melt? As Louisiana sinks and sea levels rise, the State is drowning. Fast. Climate change's health toll: 'We can save millions of lives, even now' Climate change ups odds of a megadrought...
    Skeptical Science | 30-08
  • Some thoughts on the mass abuse of children in England
    We're all roughly familiar with the the horrible story of persistent mass abuse of vulnerable teenage girls and the shameful failure by the police and social services to help the victims of the notorious 'street grooming' gangs that have been...
    Left hand palm | 30-08
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 21 – I trust Judith Collins t...
     PM Questioned About Judith Collins  PM Faces More Q's About Collins  Corruption Allegations Fly in Parliament  Judith Collins resigns, says she's a victim ...
    Arch Rival | 30-08
  • Thus, I give up the spear!
    It's a pretty safe bet that when a certain blogger whom we don't name came up with his "trophy wall" of individuals that he had "harpooned" through his work, he didn't ever think that the biggest head mounted on it...
    Pundit | 30-08
  • Are Mental Health Services Failing Cameron Slater
    Firstly, I don’t want to make excuses for the Scumbag Cameron Slater, in fact I am amazed the Police have not yet arrested him for collusion to commit blackmail, or for several other crimes he has appeared to have committed. ...
    An average kiwi | 30-08
  • Corrupt Collins resigns
    Today, the corrupt and arrogant Judith Collins was forced to resign. Clearly her position had already become untenable because of her involvement in the Oravida debacle and a smear campaign against a public servant. Because of Collins and attack blogger...
    The Jackal | 30-08
  • Whose Resignation?
    Judith Collins’ resignation has, it is suggested in some quarters, allowed a line to be drawn under the whole dirty politics saga. We can, it seems, get on with the “real issues” of the election. Such optimism, however, seems entirely...
    Bryan Gould | 30-08
  • Winston Peters finally allowed on TV3 set after standing next to it for 78 ...
    Some political reporters believe that Peters doesn’t have a home, and sleeps in television studios in hopes of being asked about current events. New Zealand First leader Winston Peters was finally allowed on the set of TV3’s The Nation this...
    The Civilian | 30-08
  • Prime Minister issues Judith Collins with last, definitively final, absolut...
    Key insists that this is Collins’ “very last” penultimate warning. Prime Minister John Key cancelled a campaign event in Wellington early this afternoon in order to publicly issue Justice Minister Judith Collins with a “definitively final penultimate warning” over her...
    The Civilian | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part II – Something new under the sun.
    [This is the second part of a two-part post. In the first post I argued that our modern world is susceptible to 'two tracks' arising in all areas. In this post I argue that it is wrong to claim that...
    Political Scientist | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part II – Something new under the sun.
    [This is the second part of a two-part post. In the first post I argued that our modern world is susceptible to 'two tracks' arising in all areas. In this post I argue that it is wrong to claim that...
    The Political Scientist | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part I – A two track world
    There’s plenty of interesting side-tracks to travel down in Nicky Hager’s book ‘Dirty Politics‘. But the main track needs to be kept visible. That track is actually two tracks. And those tracks amount to a highly networked web of relationships between a loose...
    Political Scientist | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part I – A two track world
    There’s plenty of interesting side-tracks to travel down in Nicky Hager’s book ‘Dirty Politics‘. But the main track needs to be kept visible. That track is actually two tracks. And those tracks amount to a highly networked web of relationships between a loose...
    The Political Scientist | 30-08
  • Serious questions for Jared Savage & the NZ Herald
    So, further to the Cameron Slater email that felled Judith Collins, there’s a particular line in the email that’s rather troubling: I am maintaining daily communications with Jared Savage at the Herald and he is passing information directly to me that...
    Occasionally erudite | 30-08
  • Photo of the day: Urban Charity
    Yesterday was Daffodil Day and in two different locations people put a lot of effort into creating neat displays that enhanced the urban environment and made people stop and look. The first one I saw was on Durham Lane where Daffodils...
    Transport Blog | 30-08
  • Collins’ resignation
    I've just been watching the Prime Minister announcing the resignation of Judith Collins. I'm glad to see her go. A Minister using a sewer-blogger to undermine their own chief executive is absolutely toxic. But rather than resigning, she should have...
    No Right Turn | 30-08
  • Judith Collins resigns
    Oravida and the mysterious Chinese border control official, the Simon Pleasants leak, Bronwyn Pullar’s Privacy Commission complaint, plotting to roll John Key after the election – the allegations just kept coming. Now there’s the allegation that she conspired with Cameron Slater and...
    Occasionally erudite | 30-08
  • Andrew Williams lawyers up
    Andrew Williams is somewhat annoyed about being dumped completely from the NZ First party list. As such, he’s following in his leader’s footsteps and is lawyering up, seeking a judicial review of the party’s decision. My immediate response, on hearing...
    Occasionally erudite | 29-08
  • DIRT ALERT! – Are The Greens And Labour About To Become The Targets O...
    Deja Vu All Over Again? Are we about to see a repeat of the 2005 negative advertising campaign  launched in secret against the Greens and Labour? WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour...
    Bowalley Road | 29-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    Frankly Speaking | 29-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    Frankly Speaking | 29-08
  • Wynyard Cycling Complaints
    The new Waterfront Promenade linking the Harbour Bridge to Wynyard Quarter will be fantastic when finished later this year however its completion will leave a gap in the network through Wynyard Quarter itself. Auckland Transport and Waterfront Auckland are going to be...
    Transport Blog | 29-08
  • Something to do today
    From the FaceBook page: NATIONAL: NOT OUR FUTUREMARCHES ACROSS NEW ZEALANDAUCKLAND RALLY SATURDAY 30th AUGUST. AOTEA SQUARE, 1PMThree weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction....
    The Jackal | 29-08
  • Slater packs a sad
    H/T Porcupine FarmWe all know that Cameron Slater AKA Whale Oil is a bit of a dick at the best of times. His stupidity and vindictive nature is clearly evident throughout the book Dirty Politics and on his discredited blog...
    The Jackal | 29-08
  • Key weak on Collins coup attempt
    Politics is a strange old chestnut with the motivations of those playing the game not always apparent to the rest of us. However, more often than not the politicians invariably only have their own vested interests at heart with little...
    The Jackal | 29-08
  • Koretake II
    The Crown is to appeal against the son of Kingi Tuheitia not being convicted - in a case where the other offenders were all let off without convictions without any name suppression - and the Crown is not to appeal...
    Tumeke | 29-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bill English: allegations against Judith Collins are serious
    Deputy Prime Minister Bill English told TV1’s Q+A programme that the allegations against Judith Collins are serious and that’s why an inquiry is needed....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Culture Change Required
    "There are serious issues raised in an Employment Relations Authority judgement released this week. The culture within the Whangarei District Council (WDC) organisation must change. The culture of any organisation is defined by its leadership starting...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Reducing Reoffending Statistic Challenged
    In Rethinking’s latest blog, http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/08/th-bps-reducing-crime-and-reoffending.html it closely examines the current claim that reoffending in New Zealand has reduced by 12.5% since June 2011, and reveals how that figure has been achieved. It argues...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • University economics team studying workers’ comparing wages
    A University of Canterbury economics research team is looking at fairness of the job assignments and whether workers are sensitive to the wages of their co-workers....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Statement by State Services Commissioner
    30 August 2014 "The State Services Commission was contacted by the Prime Minister's Office over the last 24 hours on this issue." “Any activity that undermines, or has the potential to undermine, the trust and confidence in the public service...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Christchurch Council Circus … Continued
    In 2010 the UK Daily Mail investigated the antics of a major bureaucratically bloated London Local Authority and reported with THE GREAT INERTIA SECTOR ....
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • The Nation Housing Debate
    Patrick It's the great Kiwi dream, but is owning the roof over your head now just a pipe dream for many Kiwis? Homeownership is at the lowest level in half a century. National's answer is to double subsidies to first-home...
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • Time to Shine Light on Shadowy Spies
    Internet MANA has promised to set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry into New Zealand’s intelligence agencies, with a view to transferring oversight of spying operations to a new, independent authority....
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
    New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues (41%) while the World’s most important problems are War & Terrorism (35%) just three weeks before NZ Election...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
    Below is iSentia’s first weekly Leaders’ Index, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will produce these reports for the next three...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
    Tamaiti Cairns said that today’s Supreme Court decision is complicated, but, in essence opens the door for Maori people to go forward with their essential claims to water. Further work is required and Pouakani Trust will continue to pursue its...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
    “ … the Supreme Court refused to give Pouakani people what they asked for, but may have given them something much, much better instead. The Appellants had argued that the Crown’s ownership of the River was as a fiduciary for...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Leaders Dinner with Campbell Live, Dessert with RadioLIVE
    John Campbell is hosting Colin Craig, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Metiria Turei, Peter Dunne, Jamie Whyte and Te Ururoa Flavell LIVE from Auckland’s Grand Harbour Restaurant on Wednesday 3 September at 7pm....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Credit unions in the political spotlight
    Dirty politics was put aside last night as senior politicians outlined their universal support for growing the cooperatively owned credit union and mutual building society sector in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Maryan Street on issues of importance to older people
    Liam Butler interviews Hon Maryan Street MP on issues of importance to older New Zealanders...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • John Hanita Paki and others v The Attorney-General
    JOHN HANITA PAKI, TORIWAI ROTARANGI, TAUHOPA TE WANO HEPI, MATIU MAMAE PITIROI AND GEORGE MONGAMONGA RAWHITI v THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF NEW ZEALAND FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CROWN (“THE CROWN”) (SC 7/2010)...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Last Nights Leaders Debate Drives The #nzpol Wordcloud
    Following last nights leaders debate on TV One between John Key and David Cunliffe, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol from approximately the last 24 hours to produce this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Campaign suggests reason behind suicide gender statistics
    An online campaign about meaning and belonging has revealed an interesting connection with the difference in suicide rates between men and women....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Act Policy Vindicated by Sensible Sentencing Data
    ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte says the Sensible Sentencing Trust's just released analysis of 3 Strikes legislation "proves ACT was right to promote the policy and that it has made New Zealand a much safer country. The figures show beyond...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids”
    It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Cannabis Laws Breach Treaty – ALCP
    Cannabis prohibition is neo-colonial oppression resulting in the disproportionate imprisonment of Maori, the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party says....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • 2014 Variation Broadcasting Allocation Decision Released
    The Electoral Commission has released a variation decision on the amount of time and money allocated to political parties for the broadcasting of election programmes for the 2014 General Election....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • New Zealand Shoppers- Demand Blue Tick Accredited Products
    Following ongoing concerns surrounding the issue of animal welfare in farming, particularly in the layer and broiler chicken sectors, the RNZSPCA is now asking consumers to purchase only eggs, pork, turkey and chicken that have been Accredited by the Blue...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Environment Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Environment Policy which recognises that New Zealand cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Candidate calls for an end to institutional racism
    29 AUGUST 2014 Tāmaki Makaurau candidate, Rangi McLean has spoken up in support of Irie Te Wehi-Takerei who was wrongfully accused of shoplifting at a Warehouse store in Manukau. "Over the last month, two different supermarkets have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Making tertiary education more accessible to Māori
    29 August 2014 The Māori Party launched its tertiary education policy today at Te Huinga Tauira o Te Mana Ākonga, the national hui for the Māori Teritary Students Association in Palmerston North. Te Tai Hauāuru candidate Chris McKenzie says the...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ Sign Language programmes receives $11 million boost
    Deaf Aotearoa are thrilled with Education minister Hekia Parata’s announcement this week that $11 million in funding will go towards a range of New Zealand Sign Language initiatives, including First Signs – a programme that involves sign language...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Abortion violates the Human Rights of Fathers
    Fathers1Right to Life is concerned at the glaring imbalance that exists in law, in regard to the rights of men to defend the lives of the children they have fathered. Fatherhood commences at conception. Children in the womb, just like...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Hundreds to join march against male violence in Auckland CBD
    Hundreds of supporters are expected to join the 'Take Back the Night' march through central Auckland streets tomorrow night in solidarity with making the streets safe for women and the rainbow community to walk without fear of male violence....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Classic example of need for Conservative policy
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar believes the sentencing of killer Aaron McDonald is a classic example of why an overhaul of the parole and sentencing system is required.”...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Greens & Labour Politicising Bullying in Schools
    Family First NZ says that both the Greens and Labour are wanting to politicise and sexualise school children under the guise of bullying programmes rather than deal with the school bullying issue as it should be dealt with....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Wellington National Is Not Our Future Rally 30/8/14
    Thousands of people will march and rally at National is not our Future events on Saturday. Auckland is the main rally centre with supportive actions in Wellington, Dunedin, Christchurch and Hamilton. In Wellington, marchers will assemble at Te Papa...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EPA grants marine consent for OMV exploration well
    The Environmental Protection Authority has granted a marine consent to OMV New Zealand Ltd for its Whio-1 exploration well in the Taranaki Basin....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • First anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria
    Members of the Syrian Community and friends are commemorating the first anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria, in Aotea Square on Saturday 30 August 2014, between 11-3 pm. The Assad regimes chemical attacks on al Ghouta were responsible...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Anniversary of the NZ Occupation of German Samoa
    Today, 29th August 2014, marks the 100 years centenary of the occupation of Samoa by New Zealand forces at the request of the British empire, ending the German rule of Samoa. It is also the starting point for the special...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Submissions sought on mosquito repellent
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a portable mosquito repellent for use outdoors. The repellent consists of a strip impregnated with metofluthrin, a substance from the pyrethroid family....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Spot the difference – the leaders debate
    I watched the Leaders' debate last night and was struck by the fact that John Key accepted all of David Cunliffe's basic assumptions. For example, he did not say that the government should not tell farmers who they could sell...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Colin Craig’s tax figures do not add up and are dishonest
    “Colin Craig’s tax plan is to have two rates of income tax: 0% up to $20,000 and 25% above that. This will leave a $6.4 billion hole in the budget even before the new spending proposed by the Conservatives. The...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support
    Media Release – For Immediate Release Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support Support for National has dropped by 4.3% to 50.8%, the latest stuff.co.nz / Ipsos political poll shows....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
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