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Open mike 28/11/2012

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60 comments on “Open mike 28/11/2012”

  1. Jenny 1

    To fight the war against climate change leadership is necessary.

    Where will this leadership come from?

    “So they [the Government] go on in strange paradox, decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent…. Owing to past neglect, in the face of the plainest warnings, we have entered upon a period of danger…. The era of procrastination, of half measures, of soothing and baffling expedience of delays, is coming to its close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences…. We cannot avoid this period, we are in it now….”

    Winston Churchill, November 12, 1936, House of Commons

    Doesn’t this strange paradox of dithering, procrastination, of half measures, of soothing and expedience and delays describe our present parliament when it comes to Climate Change. Especially when we also are entering a period of consequences.

    The apologists and Ignorers of climate change are dominant, one each, in two of the major parties in parliament. And the Greens are busy tailoring their party to fit with this paradigm.

    So for the order of the day, the big political question is:

    Who will be New Zealand’s Climate Churchill?

    “The Pearl Harbors are here. The Churchills and FDRs aren’t.”

    The most difficult task, phase-out over the next 20-25 years of coal use that does not capture CO2, is herculean, yet feasible when compared with the efforts that went into World War II. The stakes, for all life on the planet, surpass those of any previous crisis. The greatest danger is continued ignorance and denial, which could make tragic consequences unavoidable.

    Target Atmospheric CO2: Where Should Humanity Aim? James Hansen, Makiko Sato, Pushker Kharecha, David Beerling, Valerie Masson-Delmotte, Mark Pagani, Maureen Raymo, Dana L. Royer, James C. Zachos

    http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2008/TargetCO2_20080407.pdf

    So what was so special about Churchill?

    Winston Churchill, was a long serving Liberal Government MP and liberal cabinet Minister who lost his seat in the electoral landslide against the Liberals following WW1. Standing as a ‘constitutional anti-socialist’ independent, Churchill regained the seat of Epping, returning to parliament in 1924. Churchill however remained out of government from 1922 when he lost his original Liberal seat until 1939 when he was suddenly plucked from the obscurity of the back benches, to the premiership of the country. A promotion unrivaled in British parliamentary history.

    What distinguished Churchill from all the other back bench MPs?

    Despite the still ongoing Great Depression and massive social dislocation caused by mass unemployment. Rather than concentrate on economic issues, Churchill identified the rise of fascism as the singular greatest threat to civilisation. And refused, despite all sorts of pressure and abuse, to shut up about it. (Putting all British government MPs whether Liberal, Labour, or Conservative on notice.)

    The other thing that distinguished Churchill from his peers was that he was completely non-sectarian, prepared to work with any grouping or party that was opposed to fascism. Despite being of the Right Churchill was prepared to work with the minority Labour Party and even Communist Party members, if they were opposed to fascism. This history has been covered up, and the British Conservative Party have claimed Churchill as one of their own, (Churchill had nominally taken up Tory membership in 1925). But up until 1939 when events proved him right, the Conservatives had long harboured a deep distrust of Churchill.

    So who will it be, who will put NZ’s three parliamentary parties on notice that Climate Change cannot, and should not, be ignored?

    http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/11/15/national-100-dirty-on-the-environment-and-the-economy/

    http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/10/25/38028/

    • Bill 1.1

      There will be no ‘Churchill’. The choice is between preserving ecospheres or preserving the economy. We don’t get to have our cake and eat it. ( Not even ‘green’ cake) Meanwhile, everyone is looking for a champion to come from institutions dedicated to preserving the economy.

      We have already stacked the atmosphere and oceans to the extent that 2 degrees is no longer on the table. Now the target the economists and politicians hope to miss is betwwen 4 – 6 degrees.

      • Colonial Viper 1.1.1

        Basically this.

        Between the need to pay back the mountains of debt (and interest) which our financialised global economy has generated, the promises of a better material lifestyle which have been made to billions, and the fact that moving to “green” infrastructure and energy is going to take a hell of a lot of “dirty” fossil fuel driven energy expenditure, we won’t see any serious moves to cut back GHG emissions.

        In fact, its not growth in the use of oil we are going to see over the next ten years (oil use as a % of total energy used has been declining for sometime now). It is a massive explosion in the use of coal…a growth trend which has been going for a decade or so now.

    • muzza 1.2

      Chruchill, like Blair, Bush 1/2, Clinton, Obama, Clark, Key et al , was a war criminal!

      As far back as you can go, +/- a couple of names, these people are in the pocket of the same groups todays politicians represent..

      when he was suddenly plucked from the obscurity of the back benches, to the premiership of the country. A promotion unrivaled in British parliamentary history.

      Jenny I think you have just answered your own question right there…Imagine the control it takes to pluck someone out….

      Things don’t just happen, its time poeple accepted that!

      • McFlock 1.2.1

        Actually, to say he was “plucked from obscurity” is a bit rich. As the quote points out he’d spent the entire decade warning of oncoming war in an era of appeasement. He had extensive military experience both tactically and strategically (not always successfully – Gallipoli was largely his responsibility, when he was in charge of the Admiralty), and I seem to recall had called out the cavalry on strikers in the 1920s. He’d also been Chancellor of the Exchequer. 
             
        Yes, he was well-connected and high-born. Story of UK society. But he wasn’t an unpredictable or secret choice.

    • jaymam 1.3

      If I read your links, will you read mine?

      “The average temperature for the Earth, or any region or even any specific place is very difficult to determine with any accuracy. At any given time surface air temperatures around the world range over about 100°C. Even in the same place they can vary by nearly that much seasonally and as much as 30°C or more in a day.

      The purported 0.7°C of average global warming over the past century is highly uncertain. It is in fact less than the margin of error in our ability to determine the average temperature anywhere, much less globally. What portion of any such warming might be due to due to anthropogenic CO2 emissions is even less certain.”

      Read the rest here:

      http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2012/11/speak-loudly-and-carry-a-busted-hockey-stick

      • One Tāne Huna 1.3.1

        The ice isn’t melting? Fuck that’s some good cgi.

        • jaymam 1.3.1.1

          No the Antarctic ice is not melting. There’s more ice there than there’s been for years. Arctic ice is refreezing at a very rapid rate.

          • One Tāne Huna 1.3.1.1.1

            Really? Says who? I think you need to check your capacity for excrement: it seems to be accelerating.

          • lprent 1.3.1.1.2

            You do understand about what causes more snow and therefore ice in a really cold climate right? That what you just described actually indicates that Antarctica is warming? That colder climates have less snow and ice formation and the first sign of warming in a really cold climate is that there is more moisture in the air to form snow. That the moisture is getting there means that there is more heat penetrating into the fridge.

            I’m always amazed at how scientifically illiterate some people are. In this case you’d think that with water everywhere that people would find the implications of heat in the phase changes of water would be obvious…

            And it is heading into winter in the Arctic. Of course it is freezing compared to what it was doing in summer. I guess you’ve never been around ponds in a winters morning? They get ice around the edges overnight and melt like crazy after the sun comes up. You have to have thick ice on a pond to not melt in the sun. There is very little thick ice in the Arctic any more.

            The thickness appears to have migrated elsewhere.

    • Reagan Cline 1.4

      “What distinguished Churchill from all other back bench MPs ?”

      He shot a Dervish and lived to write about it in “The River War”

  2. muzza 2

    NZ, the rankings of shame!

    • weka 2.1

      As much as I support anything that discourages immigration to NZ, that website doesn’t look so reliable. 62% of NZers are obese? I don’t think so.

      • Adrian 2.1.1

        I have to agree about dodgy ” worst in the world” stats. Years ago, about 25, I was being driven through Athens on a Saturday night by a “cat-and-dog’ relative who proudly told me that Greece didn’t have any assault crime or rape/sexual assault crime. My question had been triggered by what looked like a woman getting a clip around the ear in a side street, a few kms later a girls/ boys scrap that looked nasty was under way just off the road. It obviously doesn’t happen if you don’t want to see it or report it. We at least have a very robust reportage regime on all sorts of things which does us no favours in these sort of surveys.

        • muzza 2.1.1.1

          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10849852

          “Instead, under National, police have actually stopped effectively reporting family violence statistics and have admitted that current statistics for family violence offences are no longer able to give meaningful comparisons across time.”

          Robust like this…

          Perhaps we should also stop reporting….hang on a sec!

          • rosy 2.1.1.1.1

            I’m thinking our stats on family violence will be closer to those of other countries in the next year or so. National will then claim improvements when all that’s been changed is the reporting has been reduced.

            I have heard in the past a criticism of international statistics (good and bad) is that when comparing NZ with other countries, outside of census data and certain international testing regimes, we’re better at counting. This is in part due to the ease of recording and collating small numbers in a small population and varying definitions of the factor being assessed. For example:

            Because the methods of recording, are considered to be more consistent, more thorough and more accurate than other countries, New Zealand’s records reflect the local situation more accurately than records in the OECD countries New Zealand is usually compared to. Because of this, comparisons between New Zealand and other countries can not be considered of high value.

            I’m not sure how accurate this justification for high negative stats, it’s just that the discussion is there.

      • muzza 2.1.2

        Hi Weka,

        Depends on what Obese is measured as. Put it this way, when I look around me at work, or elsewhere, I see more people who would be deemed straight up fat in old school terms, and that would, I expect put them in the morbidly obese, if I was asked.

        I see overweight and fat people everywhere now, so for mine 62%, easily!

        In any case I was more looking for the poverty, crime, abuse, suicide type stats, which if you put fat, into the equation, are all symptoms of a very sick country!

        Our positions in the tables has been internationally tragic for decades now, and sadly it is only going to get worse!

        • Fortran 2.1.2.1

          muzza

          Can you be hungry and overweight.
          I was in London as a child in WW2 – we were often hungry but never overweight – in fact historically we were very healthy – even with a daily dose of Cod Liver Oil.

        • weka 2.1.2.2

          Maybe muzza, but to my mind there is a difference between fat and obese, and what is wrong with those things anyway? Should immigrants fear contemporarily defined fatness in the same way they should fear crime?
           
          The correlations between overweight and health outcomes aren’t as direct, or cause and effect as you seem to imply. And while people are getting fatter, esp younger people, there is no way that the rate of obesity in NZ is 62%.
           
          The link that was used to back up the 62% is very poor. I’m not sure it actually is saying 62% of total population – the first page suggests that 62% of fat people are obese, although I couldn’t really makes sense of it. The problem is that once you have one poor example of evidence, it renders the rest a bit suspect.

  3. ad 3

    The Labour Party Board will meet shortly to amongst other things, consider New Lynn LEC’s complaint about how their MP was treated recently, particularly whether the Whip went overboard a bit.

    Any LEC out there who wants to send any similar thougths to the President, in time for Friday?

    Some will wish last week away, others perhaps inclined to stride across the smoking battlefield and bayonet the wounded.

    Hopefully the President ensures some actual calm and fairness restored amongst members, after the raw political tsunami has receded.

  4. alex 4

    If you care about science and reason trumping blind ideology, get over to Kiwiblog and stick up for Dr Mike Joy, who is currently a messenger with a lot of bullet holes in him.

    • prism 4.1

      alex
      I had a look at Kiwiblog and there were one or two standing up for facts and reasoned opinion from Dr Joy but it’s a wasps circle there and they are hostile to criticism made by anyone but themselves apparently. I suppose it requires a reexamination of their certainties which is time consuming and irritating. And a desire to get things right rther than get things personally cushy.

  5. Rogue Trooper 5

    Pump-Action Both Barrels
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_biases
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias_mitigation

    Pick a round and load up Troops (“load up load up those raaarber bullets…”)
    set the cats amidst the doves

    Rhetorical reminders?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_device
    though they may lead to superfluidity

    -Reckless Abandon Real Life (“send me an angel…send me an angel…right now…right now”)

    PS. if i should stumble, catch myah fall

    Billy “Love Gun”

    • Uturn 5.1

      Hey Mr. Tamborine man, sing a song for those who have seen the departing hand of god.
      always in the dark, even at noon; condemned to take and never questioning.
      No eternal reward can forgive us now for expecting the dawn.

      • Rogue Trooper 5.1.1

        Hi, I was thinking of you while cycling along the road; Hard Case! What next oh illustrious One? :)

        • Uturn 5.1.1.1

          Make some rules and then break them, probably. Last night I saw a film called Bitter Harvest. Have you seen it?

          • Rogue Trooper 5.1.1.1.1

            no, tell me your synopsis and let it be revealing; i’m out of ammo, so gonna go reload and then I might be able to make some insertions myself.
            btw, do you believe this has affected the so-called real world of Pleasantville? interested to know your thoughts on breadth and audience appeal; production values have certainly improved (Take) note! :)
            imagine who all these people are forming inferences.

            “these are the people in your neighbourhood…your neighbourhood…your neigh-Bore-hood…
            the people that you meet each day”

            -Eeeeeernie, and he drove the fastest milk-cart in the West

            • Uturn 5.1.1.1.1.1

              Bitter Harvest: Eastern tale (Eastern Europe/Asia) retold in 1924 Ireland. Man decides to make his enemies the measure of his worth, then periodically forgets what he set out to prove, then loses the thread of whatever made him decide in the first place. Darkness that can’t define itself either as hot or cold, dry or wet, comedy or tragedy, or any other reference point; resulting in the kind of laughter that creates familiarity within the confines of terror.

              Pleasantville and audience appeal: see your notes on cognitive bias. Communication is a unintentionally fraudulant process; written communications, not so unintentional. Honesty would be a fine thing – if any of us knew the language – and appeals of any kind are lies told in the best of interests. I’ve heard that silence is the greatest music, interupted by the anxiety of notes. Still the notes stick, regardless of the tune.

              Once, while I sat outside a shop eating a pie I saw a woman escorted to her next job; brought in by a taxi, left a few minutes later on foot with slumped shoulders. My pie still tasted the same and the woman didn’t stop walking. These are the people in my neighbourhood. They were here before I arrived and will be here after I go.

              • Rogue Trooper

                read in the local paper of high domestic violence statistics as government cuts into sexual abuse support
                scan C.T becoming a more indulgent writer; Winter I enjoy can be dry and cold.Understand that
                Key, “Chinese people are very interested in New Zealand”; need help with your prophecy? An Honest
                statement at long last and it seems like he is doing more thinking before flipping the burghers welcoming
                the Junk. All Pink on the inside, Gorgon Bennett! are these swine flying too. It is only Time
                yet they can’t put that Message in a Bottle and Pump it Roxanne you don’t have to put on the red light
                I do not mind if you benefit from your body all night I stretched my manhood further when my ol’
                Lady pulled the odd trick, Didn’t bother me none as I pawned a body in a more mechanical way.
                LOTR trilogy not representative enough at all; not dirty enough by more than few % and this is Proof?
                and anything with Anthony Hopkins in it Clarice we men can withdraw anytime and I Generally did
                must be the soft-cocks that carry on none-the-less; Can’t say “That’s not self-control, HTFU get on
                your knees for a while with the Parliamentary cleaners up of there Purex (Trade Mark).Ethnography
                IS Free, no need for fries with that. Went out on a Hot sunny day to engage some Whnz and nobody
                There I trusted myself more to deliver than government departments and SOE’s this minnit. Nekkin’
                romantically at outside Arnold’s Rebel, Top Dog or Alpha Phi Alpha you could not make this shit up.
                Yet, smile and the world does smile back if it can pull back from the brink but I’m Thomas The
                Rhymer.Iron sharpens Iron Hard Core unless it’s Cast and dies unlike my old friend Richard The
                Librarian, Good Sort, no suit I used to stay along Flygers Line and now I Walk one, it’s Cash Only
                for me Life’s What You Make It-Talk Talk with lprent as Head Master all can go to The Topps
                of The Class even Holdsons Commodores and XLR8’s.Everywhere I randomly look there you are
                Collective-Queen-Soul has always impressed me although I choose not to peck and retain scratchings
                cannot live on words for we all know by now what man needs in his Sandwich Lord.Did The Borg
                Return to Eden or was there a Giant in the East who passed away.Once you have met all the pollies
                and classified their agenda and sampled their labels there dregs can leave a furry taste on the tongue.
                The Naked and The Famous or The Naked and The Dead and when I walked The Streets of Laredo as a High Plains Drifter Saturday Night Fever I seemed Happy and some of the people were Happy too.
                :) Long Live The Standard Bearer Quo Vadis :)

  6. Morgy 6

    24 x 364 x 10 = ???

  7. ianmac 7

    A pretty compelling program last night on TV3 a repeat of “Inside Child Poverty.” Rather timely too don’t you think?
    http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Inside-New-Zealand-Inside-Child-Poverty/tabid/59/articleID/4761/MCat/342/Default.aspx

    • Treetop 7.1

      Heatley and Ryall need to periodically visit the children’s ward of hospitals. Then they may get it how the home and not seeing a doctor soon enough due to the cost impacts on children.

      I liked the way the doco explained how NZ got this way and that NZ is third to last just ahead of Turkey and Mexico on the OCD index.

  8. A moratorium on fracking is still appropriate until we have decent regulatory controls. http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/fracking-report-flags-issues.html

    • rosy 8.1

      On things environmental… Claire Browining’s post on Pundit is worth a read:

      Three years ago, new to the job, Trade (and former Conservation) Minister Tim Groser said our brand would be built on “world class environmental standards”:

      She goes on to detail how this ‘brand’ has been demolished, until:

      2012 saw us slipping in the environment rankings, to fourteenth according to the Yale-Columbia Environmental Performance Index, from first in 2006; and eighth according to the World Bank, from second in 2009.

      Ministers are tiptoeing away from that brand, saying that they now want to write a New Zealand story.

      The trouble is, I think I just did.

  9. Rogue Trooper 9

    interesting phenomena this political web we weave…

  10. lefty 10

    We don’t need a Churchill.

    We need a functioning democracy where we, the people ,are able to make informed decisions about the things that matter for ourselves.

    Instead we are channelled into handing our ability to think, and to act, over to politicians who are all driven by the needs of the capitalist economy rather than the best interests of people and planet.

    No politician, nor any political party will save us.

    We have to do that for ourselves.

    That means finding ways to act collectively despite our politicians.

    And finding ways to collectively stop politicians doing bad shit in our name.

  11. Professor Longhair 11

    Israeli soldiers speak out

    http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

  12. Socialist Paddy 12

    Latest Roy Morgan is out.  Labour is down 1% and Greens are up 3%.

    Ouch.

    http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4842/ 

  13. Te Reo Putake 13

    Roy Morgan’s out:

    Support for Labour is 31.5% (down 1%); Greens are 13.5% (up 3%), New Zealand First 6.5% (up 1.5 %). Total is 51.5%.

    Nats drop slightly to 45%.

    http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4842/

    868 electors from November 12-25, 2012. Of all electors surveyed 4.5% (down 0.5%) didn’t name a party

    [lprent: enhanced the comment. Check the dates. Wouldn’t expect a pronounced reaction from the conference ]

  14. gobsmacked 14

    The Shearer acolytes are fond of saying that he has got Labour up in the polls.

    In fact, if you look at the Roy Morgan poll numbers in January and February this year, you will see Labour around 30-31%. The dead cat bounce, post-election, Goff gone, new leader, honeymoon.

    That was nine months ago. Labour haven’t moved.

    • Crimson Nile 14.1

      The incumbents have been doing far worse over the course of this year however – how do you reconcile the fact that the Labour vote has not increased over time, given this?

  15. Morrissey 15

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10849084

    Palestinians demonised with half truths

    [deleted]

    Leslie Bravery is a member of the Palestine Human Rights Campaign.
    Copyright ©2012, APN Holdings NZ Limited

    [deleted]

    [lprent: You see that word “Copyright” there? Do that again and I will abbreviate any future possibility of a repitition.

    Short quotes and state why you think people should read it. ]

  16. One Tāne Huna 16

    David H proposes (in jest) that Fisi submit a guest post.

    I don’t think this is such a bad idea.

    I firmly believe that we need better wingnuts. Farrar and Mr. Oil? Give me a break. Matthew “the story” Hooten? Yeah nah.

    The challenges we face require input from all sides. Parliamentary debate is a farce. Would it hurt to introduce some intellect from the right (please excuse the oxymoron) every now and then? April Fools’ Day?

    Let them lay out their case.

  17. Chalupa Batman 17

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4TEjtrEDj6o

    So what you like about Joyce but this is pretty good, might have even cracked a smile on the greens….

    • karol 17.1

      Is that from Question Time today? The Speaker was well out of order letting Joyce run on like that.  P**sed off,  very, I was. Major diversion from holding the government to account!

      I despair of what our parliament has become.   

  18. FYI

    28 November 2012Open Letter to NZ Prime Minister John Key: “Please confirm that NZ is going to support Palestine becoming a UN ‘non-member observer state’Dear Prime Minister, 

    Please confirm that in line with the following stated position on the NZ Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) website, that New Zealand is going to support the bid by the Palestinian Authority for Palestine to become a UN “non-member observer state” at the UN General Assembly meeting on Thursday 29 November 2012.

    http://www.mfat.govt.nz/Foreign-Relations/Middle-East/2-Arab-Israeli-conflict.php

    Middle East

    Arab – Israeli Conflict: New Zealand Position

    Since the beginning of the Arab – Israeli conflict, New Zealand has sought to approach the issue even-handedly, seeking a solution that provided for a Jewish/Israeli and a Palestinian state on the land of the former British mandate of Palestine. This policy has its origins in our commitment to the 1947 United Nations (UN) partition resolution on Palestine (Jewish state, Arab state, and internationalisation of Jerusalem) and the 1967 UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution on the need for a just settlement and Israel’s withdrawal from occupied territories.

    The policy has been underpinned through contributions to the UN Truce Supervision Organisation (UNTSO) since 1954 and to the Sinai Multinational Force and Observers (MFO) since 1982. We have also core funded the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA).

    New Zealand continues to advocate for a balanced and constructive resolution of interests, based on the need for a lasting two-state settlement in accordance with UNSC resolutions and subsequent agreements between the two parties. We have sought in our statements in the United Nations to draw attention to the rights and responsibilities of both sides. In particular, while constantly advocating the need for a peaceful two-state settlement, New Zealand has expressed strong opposition to ongoing acts of violent resistance against Israel, while underlining Israel’s own responsibility to act lawfully and with restraint.

    New Zealand is prepared to speak out against actions by any party that are likely to have contravened international law. These include rocket attacks by Hamas and/or other Palestinian militant groups against Israel. Equally, we have spoken out against actions by Israel, including the blockade of the Gaza Strip, and expansion of settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

    This carefully balanced position is consistent with New Zealand’s international reputation for fair-mindedness. It reflects the value we, as a small country, place on the international rule of law.

    Positions New Zealand takes on resolutions within the United Nations reflect this even-handed, balanced and constructive approach. We acknowledge that, ultimately, a lasting two-state settlement is something that will have to be negotiated between the two principle parties. But the UN and its members have a role to play in promoting dialogue to encourage that negotiated settlement. There is also an important role to play by the UN development and humanitarian agencies in addressing the severe humanitarian hardships, and growing health-related problems, among the Palestinian people, especially women and children.

    New Zealand therefore supports UN resolutions that advance the two-state solution, uphold international law, including human rights and humanitarian law, or call for humanitarian assistance. ”

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________

    THIS IS WHAT IS BEING VOTED UPON:

    COMPLETE TEXT OF DRAFT UN RESOLUTION UPGRADING STATUS OF PALESTINE:

    ………………

    http://www.innercitypress.com/palreso1icpga110812.pdf
    http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=58963

    BACKGROUND INFORMATION”

    FURTHER BACKGROUND INFORMATION:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20299149

    http://www.innercitypress.com/palreso1icpga110812.pdf
    ……………………..

    Penny Bright

    Jacquelyne Taylor

  19. Rogue Trooper 20

    we could discuss amongst ourselves some more
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_analysis
    was Joe Strummer a Saint and come to some jazzy solutions Jimmie

    and then conclude Oh Well, whatta ya gonna be doin’ next year no lie…
    and surf the wave Cos charley don’t

  20. Chalupa Batman 21

    So thats four Labour MPs going to the Hobbit premier and no Green MPs going.

    I’m thinking the Greens have played this right (kiwis respect integrity) but how do you lot think?

    • muzza 21.1

      I think its simply more maneuvering of the pawns around the board!

      The Greens will NOT be any saviour on NZ, any more than Labour will, or any more than Cunliffe can could possibly be!

      Apply the same to any name or party you like!

  21. muzza 22

    Look at the eyes…

    This is a very bad individual!

  22. Rogue Trooper 23

    I have always found these reinforcing
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement_Schedules#Schedules_of_reinforcement
    and in variably turns Right Whales and other farreright wildlife belly up under the beating down sun :)

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    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 days ago
  • Another new tax, another broken promise
    National has unveiled yet another new tax in this budget – a rural broadband levy that will almost certainly result in an immediate price hike for internet and telephone connections across New Zealand, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran said “The… ...
    3 days ago
  • Anniversary of Sri Lankan Tamil Massacre
    This is not going to be a happy story but if the Green Party of Aotearoa doesn’t want to know who else will? May 18th marks the anniversary of what is known as the ‘Mullivaikal massacre’ of Tamils in 2009 at… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    3 days ago
  • Labour MPs join youth to take part in 40 hour famine
    A team of Labour MPs took part in the 2015 World Vision 40 hour famine and we were told by World Vision and the young people, that it was the first time MPs had joined them and how appreciative they… ...
    3 days ago
  • Rodeo: ‘Family entertainment’ or animal abuse?
    Recently  TVNZ ran a story with confronting footage showing rodeo animals being punched, repeatedly shocked with electronic prods and having their tails violently twisted over their backs. It was clear that significant force was being used behind the scenes to make… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers MP
    3 days ago
  • Budget puts the squeeze on police
    The Government has cut funding to the New Zealand police force in the latest Budget, says Labour’s Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “The reduction is a whopping $15.3 million that could put front line officers at risk. ...
    3 days ago
  • Crucial social services take another hit
    The Government looks set to slash half a million dollars of funding for critical social services, including Women’s Refuge and Barnados, says Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Carmel Sepuloni “Taking $500,000 from organisations aimed at improving the lives of vulnerable families… ...
    3 days ago
  • Saying it Loud on Climate in Christchurch
    The Government’s Christchurch consultation meeting on New Zealand’s emission targets was inspiring – not for what was in the Ministry for the Environment’s (MFE’s) defeatist video about the obstacles to changing to a low carbon future, but for what the… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    3 days ago
  • Budget silent on small business
    The Government has completely ignored one of the most important sectors of the economy – small and medium-sized enterprises – in Budget 2015, Labour’s Small Business spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. "A stunning 41 per cent of jobs were created by… ...
    3 days ago
  • Thank you John, it’s been bloody marvellous
    The departure of John Campbell is a blow to current affairs investigative journalism, Labour’s Broadcasting Spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Campbell Live stood out in its field. Its axing comes as local broadcasting in New Zealand remains in a state of… ...
    3 days ago
  • KiwiSaver cut shows no long-term plan
    National’s cutting of the KiwiSaver kickstart is incredibly short-term thinking, typical of a Budget that is woefully short on ideas to generate wealth and opportunity, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “New Zealand’s savings rate is far too low. KiwiSaver… ...
    3 days ago
  • National hits the panic button for its 7th Budget
    National has hit the panic button for its 7th Budget in a desperate attempt to look like they’re taking action to reduce our shameful child poverty rates, but they are giving with one hand and taking with the other, Opposition… ...
    4 days ago
  • Panic and back-flips can’t hide twin deficits
    National’s token measures to fight fires they have left burning for seven long years can’t hide a Budget that is long on broken promises, short on vision and fails to reach surplus, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “After being… ...
    4 days ago
  • Auckland land measure seven years too late
    National are so desperate to look like they are doing something about the Auckland housing crisis they have dusted off Labour’s 2008 inventory of government land available for housing and re-announced it, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Despite National… ...
    4 days ago
  • Access to gender reassignment surgery essential
    I was frankly disgusted to hear the Minister for Health say that funding gender reassignment surgeries is a “nutty idea”. A recent study found that in New Zealand 1% of young people identified themselves as transgender, and 3% were unsure… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    5 days ago
  • Global milk prices now lowest in 6 years
    The latest fall in the global dairy price has brought it to the lowest level in six years and shows there must be meaningful action in tomorrow’s Budget to diversify the economy, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Dairy prices… ...
    5 days ago
  • Big risks as CYF checks stopped
    Revelations that Child, Youth and Family is no longer assisting home-based early childhood educators by vetting potential employees should set alarm bells ringing, Labour Children’s spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. “Doing away with an extra mechanism for checking potential new employees… ...
    6 days ago
  • Housing crisis about real people not numbers
    The Government’s continued failure to tackle the housing crisis is seeing thousands of vulnerable Kiwis being kept off social housing waiting lists, while others, who are on the list, are being forced to live in cars and garages, says Labour’s… ...
    6 days ago
  • Housing crisis about real people not numbers
    The Government’s continued failure to tackle the housing crisis is seeing thousands of vulnerable Kiwis being kept off social housing waiting lists, while others, who are on the list, are being forced to live in cars and garages, says Labour’s… ...
    6 days ago
  • State of origin
    Kiwis are increasingly concerned about the food they give their families. New Zealand consumers have the right to know where their food has come from, particularly when it involves animals, and should be able to expect our Government to label… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    6 days ago
  • Relationships Aotearoa
    It is disturbing that Relationships Aotearoa, a voluntary organisation set up in 1949 to help couples struggling with their relationships following the upheavals of World War II, may be forced to close, says Acting Spokesperson for the Voluntary and Community… ...
    6 days ago
  • An economy that is just working for some is an economy that is not working
    The National Party presents itself as a great manager of the economy, but if the economy is only working for some we really need to question that assertion. Alongside the perpetually elusive surplus, the levels of risk in our economy are… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    6 days ago
  • An economy that is just working for some is an economy that is not working
    The National Party presents itself as a great manager of the economy, but if the economy is only working for some we really need to question that assertion. Alongside the perpetually elusive surplus, the levels of risk in our economy are… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    6 days ago
  • House prices to a crack $1 million in 17 months
    The average Auckland home is on track to cost $1 million in 17 months’ time if nothing substantial is done to rein in soaring price rises, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Auckland’s house prices have skyrocketed 63 per cent… ...
    6 days ago
  • Vital support services can’t be left in lurch
    The National Government has big questions to answer about how a provider of services to thousands of vulnerable New Zealanders is set to fold, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. Relationships Aotearoa which provides support and counselling to families, individuals… ...
    1 week ago
  • Treasury and IRD on a capital gains tax
    Both the Treasury and IRD have been advising the National Government on the benefits of a capital gains tax. Documents released to the Green Party under an Official Information Act request show that John Key has been selective with the… ...
    GreensBy Russel Norman MP
    1 week ago
  • Charity legislation needs review
    It is unacceptable that the big corporate based charities claim  millions in annual income tax exemptions, while small community based and operated non-profit organisations  struggle to gain official charity status, Labour’s acting spokesperson for the Voluntary and Community Sector Louisa… ...
    1 week ago
  • John’s panic-Key response to housing crisis
    John Key needs to tell New Zealanders what caused his sudden change of heart that led to the Government’s scrambled and last-minute housing measures, Opposition Leader Andrew Little says. “The Prime Minister’s sudden rush of blood to his head followed… ...
    1 week ago
  • Keep our Assets Christchurch Campaign: An update
    I recently presented my submission to keep Christchurch Council assets at the Christchurch City Council’s public hearings on its 10 year plan on 13 May. The hearings are live-streamed and recorded so you can watch them on www.ccc.govt.nz. The Council’s… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    1 week ago
  • John Key finally admits there’s a housing crisis
    John Key’s weak measures to rein in the astronomical profits property speculators are making are an admission – finally – that there is a housing crisis, Labour Leader Andrew Little says. “But yet again National is tinkering with the housing… ...
    1 week ago
  • Government stifles voices in CYFs review
    The Government’s exclusion of the Māori Women’s Welfare League in a panel on the future of CYFs is a cynical ploy to stifle views, says Labour’s Māori Development Spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta. “It's unbelievable that a significant review on the future… ...
    1 week ago
  • Speech to the Otago Chamber of Commerce
    Thank you very much for the opportunity to be here today. It’s a pleasure as always to be back in the town that raised me. Growing up in St Kilda meant that there was one thing that was a big… ...
    1 week ago
  • Key can’t just be Prime Minister for Parnell
    John Key must show New Zealanders in next week’s Budget that he is more than the Prime Minister for Parnell, and is also the Prime Minister for Pine Hill, Putararu and Palmerston North, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. In… ...
    1 week ago
  • Stop the conversions
    This week, some Waikato locals took me and intrepid photographer Amanda Rogers on a tour of some  lakes and waterways in their region, and up to the massive dairy conversions in the upper catchment of the Waikato River. It… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • More regional jobs go in Corrections reshape
    News that 194 Corrections staff are to lose their jobs will have ramifications not only for them and their families but for the wider community, Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. Prison units at Waikeria, Tongariro and Rimutaka face closure… ...
    1 week ago
  • Government’s climate meetings off to a bumpy start
    On Wednesday, I attended a hui and an evening meeting that the Government had organised in Nelson as part of its climate change consultation tour, to support the Nelson community telling the Government to take meaningful action on climate change.… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Taxpayers the only ones left feeling blue
    Ministry of Social Development bosses could have saved themselves thousands of dollars in consultants’ fees by providing staff with rose-tinted spectacles, Labour’s State Services spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. A report out today reveals the Ministry is spending over half a… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Why are the regions still facing restrictions?
    Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford is questioning why the regions should continue to be saddled with LVR lending restrictions announced by the Reserve Bank today. “Labour has been calling for the regions to be exempted from LVRs for the best… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The high costs of weak environmental regulation
    Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere is described on the Department of Conservation website as “Canterbury’s largest and New Zealand’s fifth largest [lake], and an internationally important wildlife area.” But the lake is also polluted by nutrients leaching from farms in the catchment.… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Submissions to Wellington City Council on their Gambling Venues Policy
    Every three years Councils across the country are required to check that their gambling venue policies are still fit for purpose and they can choose to consult on their policy if they are thinking of making changes. Councils don’t have… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Reserve Bank action shows Govt out of touch and out of ideas
    The Reserve Bank’s unprecedented measures today show it understands the serious risks of the overheating housing market – in complete contrast to John Key’s refusal to acknowledge the crisis, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The Bank is right to… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Send us your snaps: 25 Years of the Green Party
    This year we've hit a milestone. We're turning 25.To help celebrate a quarter of a century, please send us your photos from the last 25 years of the Green Party Aotearoa New Zealand! Note: Photos must be jpg, gif or… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • 25 Years of the Green Party
    This year the Green Party sends 25. To help us celebrate a quarter of a century please send us you photos of 25 years of the Green Party!Photos must be jpg,gif or png and smaller than 2MB. If you are… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Bay growth plan too little too late
    Today’s Bay of Plenty growth study from MBIE is another example of Government spin - lots of talk but little action, says Labour’s Regional Development spokesperson David Cunliffe.  “This is a region that desperately needs to develop the downstream processing… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government bows to ACC pressure
     The Government has finally buckled to pressure from Labour and the New Zealand public in making a half billion dollar cut to ACC levies, but the full benefits are two years away,” says Opposition Leader Andrew Little.  “$500 million over… ...
    2 weeks ago

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