Resource Management Act Third Reading

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1. saveNZ 1

   6 April 2017 at 10:03 am

   Wouldn’t believe a word of what Nick Smith says.

   Lets face it, the main reason the Natz live is to make it easier to exploit, pollute and take public resources more easily to private hands, through the RMA and remove democracy in the communities to have a say over their resources and community.

   Look at what the Natz Netsafe legislation is now doing, ‘apparently is was supposed to stop bullying teens’ but surprise surprise is not being used to censor political blogs and make it harder for them to operate.

   http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/04/06/exclusive-dear-netsafe-you-can-censor-the-daily-blog-the-day-you-take-the-keyboard-from-my-cold-dead-hands/

   Would support any party that repeals everything the Natz have done once we get the fuckers out.
2. Bearded Git 2

   6 April 2017 at 10:48 am

   I hope the Maori Party ‘s demise will come about on 23 September after its support for the massively developer-friendly RMA amendments that will result in the destruction of important landscape vistas.

   Under the latest changes the RMA has been gutted. The checks and balances of the right to appeal to the Environment Court has almost totally been removed for the public, though not for developers of course. So much for well informed and transparent decision making.
   • saveNZ 2.1

     6 April 2017 at 11:05 am

     +1 Bearded Git – I just don’t think people realise how destructive this bill is for this country, our environment and our way of life.
     • The Chairman 2.1.1

       6 April 2017 at 3:35 pm

       Unfortunately, most won’t realise how destructive this bill is until it impacts them directly. And when it does, there will be some horror stories to be told.
3. roy cartland 3

   6 April 2017 at 11:17 am

   Watched some of the debate. The opposition doesn’t seem convinced, and the tone of Labour was that the Maori Party had been ‘had’. Traded their dignity, relevance and mana for the proverbial magic beans. That 61-60 is hardly a mandate for such important legislature, they really should be trying to get unanimous (really???) consensus like they did when the RMA was established.
4. Draco T Bastard 4

   6 April 2017 at 11:24 am

   The current 80,000 pages of RMA plans and rules

   Massive exaggeration that amounts to an outright lie.

   The RMA legislation is only few pages long. The rest will be 25 years of court cases.

   The question that now must be asked is: Do these changes that National and its klingons are implementing support all the finding in law or do they go against them?

   I’m pretty sure that we’ll find that they go against them.
   • SpaceMonkey 4.1

     6 April 2017 at 3:58 pm

     On behalf of the Klingons I take offense at their being roped in with a political party that has no honour.
     • Ad 4.1.1

       6 April 2017 at 4:16 pm

       That is Declaration Of War, Mr Monkey.
       • SpaceMonkey 4.1.1.1

         6 April 2017 at 4:30 pm

         Indeed. It will be short and there’s plenty of room for on Rura Penthe for the entire National cabinet… perhaps not the Planet Key dreamed of but it certainly seems to be where National want to take us.
5. Jenny Kirk 5

   6 April 2017 at 3:21 pm

   “We need the national regulation-making powers to get stock out of our waterways,”
   so says Nick Smith. But what he doesn’t tell us, is that this won’t happen for about another 30 years or so.
   Stock out of waterways is needed now – not in 2047.
6. The Chairman 6

   6 April 2017 at 3:37 pm

   It seems the Maori Party amendment (prohibiting GM crops) overlooks GM grasses or pasture.

   http://www.labour.org.nz/maori_party_error_own_goal_on_gm
   • Ad 6.1

     6 April 2017 at 4:15 pm

     It’s definitely a much narrower carve-out.

     But let’s not forget:
     This is a party of 2 votes, supported by a few rag-tag apple growers, against the whole of Federated Farmers, Agresearch, most other major agricultural technology companies, and every other single MP in Parliament outside of National.

     These two MPs have got this clause against all of that.

     This tiny little Maori Party managed to get a pretty major carve-out between the second and third readings.

     Parker is attacking them because he wants the entire Bill to fail.
     Well who’da thunkit.

     But actually this clause is a really good thing that protects democratic rights within local councils.

     Of course, Parker and Little could have been creative and got Act and United to do what everyone in the Opposition wanted, which was to strike out the Ministerial call-in powers altogether. That is what Act and United wanted to do. Instead he goes for Politics As Usual.

     Parker should just light his post-debate joint and inhale for a bit.
     • The Chairman 6.1.1

       6 April 2017 at 4:26 pm

       This tiny little Maori Party are the ones that helped get the bill over the line.

       And Parker isn’t the only one who wanted the whole bill to fail. Failing that, striking out the Ministerial call-in powers should have been better attempted.
       • Ad 6.1.1.1

         6 April 2017 at 5:12 pm

         Agree
7. Robert Guyton 7

   6 April 2017 at 6:48 pm

   GMO pasture grasses across New Zealand.
   Nice work, Nick.
   Ya reckon The Maori Party missed that little detail?
   I’ve a bridge, etc…
   “MENU
   Maori Party error own goal on GM
   Posted by David Parker on April 05, 2017
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   The Maori Party amendment to the Resource Legislation Amendment Bill does not achieve what they say it does on genetic modification, says Labour’s Environment spokesperson David Parker.

   “Their amendment relates to the new powers given to the Minister to over-ride local democracy by knocking out or amending rules in District or Regional RMA plans.

   “The Maori Party amendment was supported by all parties in Parliament last night except the Act Party, because it does narrow the Minister’s over-ride power, but only a little.

   “It does this by saying the regulation cannot be used to knock out plan rules prohibiting GM ‘crops’.

   “The problem is that “crops” do not include GM grasses or pasture.

   “This was exposed last night in Parliament when Minister Nick Smith confirmed this in the debate when he correctly quoted the dictionary meaning: ‘crops’ are the produce of cultivated plants such as cereals, vegetables or fruit.’

   “The Minister is right. Thus ‘crops’ do not include GM grass.

   “Despite Maori Party assertions to the contrary, they are voting for a law which opens the door to GM grasses and pastures. This is widely opposed in many communities, especially by Maori.

   “Maori Party support was obtained on the back of this ineffective amendment.

   “The RLA Bill is deeply flawed in many different ways. They should be held to account for backing this flawed law, which will only pass with their support,” says David Parker.”
   • Ad 7.1

     7 April 2017 at 8:19 am

     Sure, but now it’s passed I’m also looking forward to hearing from Labour and the Greens whether they would revisit the RMA at all.
8. JC 8

   6 April 2017 at 10:48 pm

   “This appears to me to be a recipe for confusion and a potential policy train wreck. Serious resources need to be brought to bear on a topic like this, if you’re going to legislate, and to Balkanise the policy resources of a small country in three separate efforts seems to me to be both unwise and profligate.”

   http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/301395/rma-changes-%27potential-policy-train-wreck%27

   The Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment acknowledges the concern about housing that lies behind many of the proposed changes to the RMA. But she warns that some go too far.

   “I can see that making planning processes faster and simpler in some situations is a good thing”, said Dr Jan Wright. “But the Bill goes too far in stopping people having their say on important environmental matters.”

   http://www.pce.parliament.nz/our-work/news-insights/take-care-amending-the-rma-warns-environment-commissioner

   Personally I believe both of them aren’t too far off the mark!

   While I’d expect the 80000000 pages… to be something Nick said… I believe that came from Bernard…

   https://www.interest.co.nz/property/86941/rma-reform-bill-passes-maori-party-supports-national-act%E2%80%99s-seymour-lets-rip-rma
9. Wyndham 9

   7 April 2017 at 8:30 am

   NZ First stated in parliament last evening that, post election, ANY party that they aligned with would have to repeal this legislation.
   No ifs. No buts.
   • Richard McGrath 9.1

     7 April 2017 at 3:44 pm

     NZFirst will be the big winner from the passage of this Bill. National voters will feel betrayed by their MPs and will desert the party in droves and go over to Winston or ACT. I predict Bill English will be a two time loser, and Collins will replace him after he loses the election later this year. Interesting times ahead!

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