Wikileaks shows internet’s resilience against fools

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1. Bright Red 1

   8 December 2010 at 4:58 pm

   looks the the UK are thinking of transferring Assange to US custody. No charges, no evidence, no allegations. All highly illegal but governments aren’t above operating outside their own laws.

   Of course, none of it matters. These fuckers don’t understand the nature of digital democracy and information. It cannot be destroyed by acting against Assange, it can only be made stronger in reaction to authoritarianism.
   • Lanthanide 1.1

     8 December 2010 at 5:12 pm

     Yep, from stuff report:

     “Adams said that, despite being on the WikiLeaks Advisory Board, he had not had any involvement in any of the latest leaks. He said the “hysterical response” to the latest leaks from governments would only make matters worse for them.
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     “I think if Julian’s completely taken out of the picture the organisation will grind on in its mysterious hydra-headed way. Despite all the various attempts to cut it off at the knees and legs, it will continue to flourish and embarrass, and good on it,” Adams said.

     “I’d be advising WikiLeaks to up the ante and to keep leaking and to demonstrate that it’s bigger than Julian Assange.” “
   • dave brown 1.2

     8 December 2010 at 6:39 pm

     Its called reverse rendition.
   • Mickysavage 1.3

     8 December 2010 at 9:44 pm

     I am still hoping that the fcuk up theory applies. If Assange goes to the US we all have to hit the streets, big time …
2. BLiP 2

   8 December 2010 at 5:11 pm

   Keep it up, bozos, Wikileaks needs a martyr to rally support from those otherwise wavering. An international demonstration of the realities of western justice is exactly what your enemies need. Carry on.
3. Colonial Viper 3

   8 December 2010 at 5:15 pm

   Next time the US or UK try and pressure China about human rights and Nobel Prize winner Liu Xiaobo, China is just going to say “Assange. Next agenda item please.”
   • QoT 3.1

     8 December 2010 at 6:52 pm

     Absolutely.
     • Vicky32 3.1.1

       8 December 2010 at 7:11 pm

       Thirded…
       I am totally ignorant about hosting and servers etc, but I am very glad Wikileaks lives!
       Deb
       • Jim MacDonald 3.1.1.1

         8 December 2010 at 7:34 pm

         Yep.

         Will the folks at the Nobel Foundation kickstart the nomination process for Assange?
         The closing date is the 31st Jan of the year of the award (Wikipedia). There’s time to have the award presented to Assange for 2011.

         Note: Alfred Nobel was Swede. The Nobel Foundation is based in Sweden.

         If the Nobel folks don’t rise to the challenge, maybe China would like to inaugurate an annual international prize by presenting an award to Assange?
         • Lanthanide 3.1.1.1.1

           8 December 2010 at 8:45 pm

           Assange doesn’t deserve a peace prize at this point in time. Doing so would be a political stunt, much as giving it to Obama was. The nobel committee should be avoiding politics as much as possible, as it dilutes their purpose.
           • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.1.1.1

             8 December 2010 at 8:53 pm

             Yes giving Assange the Peace Prize would be political.

             But when is it not political.

             Calling it a ‘stunt’ devalues the impact it would have (the right used this language trick during the Hobbit campaign – I think it was).

             And remember, if it happened the message would not necessarily be one directed at the Americans. It would be one directed at the Swedish Government.
4. RedLogix 4

   8 December 2010 at 8:52 pm

   Another science fiction nexus becoming real before our eyes.

   Interesting how Assange has become a polarising lightening rod, dividing those who understand and respect him for the immensely brave challenge he is giving to power… from that mass of conformists who refuse adamantly to listen to anything other than the Fox News propaganda.
5. the sprout 5

   8 December 2010 at 9:31 pm

   i see that paypal and visa have been bullied into nolonger serving wikileaks.
   more desperate attempts by the US at censoring those who dare to expose unflattering truths.
   ‘Land of the Free’ my arse.
6. Eva 6

   8 December 2010 at 9:54 pm

   When the internet was created, the intention was to protect documents in case of warfare by keeping them in motion instead of storing them in a physical place. That genius was right!
   • SHG 6.1

     9 December 2010 at 12:23 am

     When the internet was created, the intention was to protect documents in case of warfare by keeping them in motion instead of storing them in a physical place.

     What utter bollocks.
     • Colonial Viper 6.1.1

       9 December 2010 at 1:00 am

       the early history of the internet and US DARPA are very closely intertwined.
7. qwq 7

   8 December 2010 at 10:47 pm

   We NEED proper steering mechanism to survive the global society we created with technology. Transparancy/involvism is needed. It’s urgend, at this moment our society has an obsolete 200 years old steering mechanism. How can a few wise leaders understand these complex global issues pending ?

   Would we have gone to Iraq over Weapons of mass destruction is we were part of the diplomatic cable discussion ?
   Better of with more transparency ? Credit Crises / Cable gate shows governments are not so much in control of the global society. Wasn’t it work of the press to tell us the truth ?

   Can the government be specific what is so threatening, because NO ONE DIED by the cables released. People did die because the same amount of money did go to Foreign Affair as to public health care.

   At least the cork out of the bottle. Fact is that secrets are harder to keep anno 2010. Shutting down is naive. Discuss it is the only option.. If democracy fails, the only solution is MORE democracy!. Fill the streets and discuss where the press fails.
8. SHG 8

   9 December 2010 at 12:30 am

   Here are two of the most sensible posts I’ve seen about Wikileaks since cablegate hit:

   http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-computer-conspiracy-%E2%80%9Cto-destroy-this-invisible-government%E2%80%9D/

   Summary: Assange is doing some freaky zen hacker shit to the whole intellectual notion of conspiracy.

   http://blog.futurestreetconsulting.com/?p=446

   Summary: Wikileaks is to government what Napster was to the music industry. Wikileaks will be destroyed by those it threatens, as Napster was, thus teaching the online community how to prevent such destruction from happening to Wikileaks’s successor – which will appear online the moment Wikileaks is closed down.
9. Jeremy Harris 9

   9 December 2010 at 8:28 am

   With 2,000,000,000 + internet users you only need a few hundred talented people with a knowledge of how to write code for these websites and databases and the interest to do and it’s all over as far as cencorship goes…
   • lprent 9.1

     9 December 2010 at 8:35 am

     Not quite correct. If the sysops each decide that something is damaging the net, get annoyed, and enough decide to do something about it – then nothing can really stand against that for long. Their ooerational solutions are frequently quite severe and they will ask from cooperation across the networks and usually will get it.

     I suspect that kind of decision is being made about the script-bunnies doing DDoS attacks around the net right now.

     They are also unhappy about the idiots in the US and elsewhere attempting to subvert the net structure with extra-legal attacks. Look at my ISOC post
10. anarcho 10

    9 December 2010 at 9:43 am

    Operation payback is in full swing. If you are comp savy and keen then this site will let you in on the party for freespeech;

    http://pastehtml.com/view/1c8i33u.html
11. nzfp 11

    9 December 2010 at 2:15 pm

    The X-Files Season 1 Episode 16 E.B.E. (1994/02/18)

    And a lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths.

    01: Wikileaks a clever way to sell Propaganda by sandwiching it in with the obvious

    02: WikiLeaks ‘struck a deal with Israel’ over diplomatic cables leaks

    03: Wikileaks: Corrupted Oracle or a Cointelpro Asset of the Establishment?

    04: Former Pakistani General: CIA, Mossad behind WikiLeaks Reports

    05: Fareed Zakaria – Wikileaks embarrassing Arab countries NOT the US

    06: Wikileaks, Legitimate Whistleblowers or CointelPro?

    07: GORDON DUFF: WIKILEAKS: CONSPIRACY THEORY AND THE ASSANGE ARREST

    08: Why Wikileaks Doesn’t Add Up

    09: Live with the WikiLeakable world or shut down the net. It’s your choice

    10: ORGANIZED PR CAMPAIGN TO STEAL TIME “PERSON OF THE YEAR” FOR JULIAN ASSANGE: Julian Assange, ‘Time’ Magazine’s Person Of The Year? (POLL)

    11: Adding SEX SEX SEX to lure people into the WikiLeaks trap!: The Wikileaks sex files: How two one-night stands sparked a worldwide hunt for Julian Assange

    12: Columbia University Reverses Anti-WikiLeaks Guidance

    13: RTAmerica: Assange: WikiLeaks will publish secret UFO reports

    14: TheRedacted: Wikileaks + MSM Hype = ?

    15: The United States Is Behind This Deliberate Leak

    16: GORDON DUFF: BUSTED – WIKILEAKS WORKING FOR ISRAEL

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1. The Standard: posted on 8 December 2010 at 1:46 am
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3. Hakawai Online: posted on 8 December 2010 at 8:37 am
4. Virginia Rodés: posted on 8 December 2010 at 2:54 pm
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