Audrey Young trashed in her own comments section

Written By: - Date published: 10:13 am, March 28th, 2016 - 64 comments
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Audrey Young wrote a piece on Key’s glorious defeat in the flag referendum, and how it was all Labour’s fault. Nothing unusual in that of course. What was unusual was how strongly she got called out in the comments. On the front page –

Unfortunately it was clear from day one that this bid to change the flag was going to fail. The process was also universally perceived as flawed and expensive.
The use of public figures to he hector the voters has been shown once again to be a bad idea.

No he is a loser. He lost $26 million dollars of taxpayers money. He should resign.

The result is inaccurate. The margin was likely much larger given the options were to do nothing or vote for change. Those who wished to do nothing probably did.

Talk about a sore loser. You lot lost. Get over it. You just reveal yourself as a mouthpiece.

Yup thats it , we are in a democracy, to change the the flag puts us in banana republic status, the majority have voted for the rule of law. No more no less…

What a load of tripe. There were some 20 percent voting who might have got the changed if the design was good, myself included. I think JK also politicised this and it offensive to just blame labour and greens.

No you are wrong. He is a loser and a failure. The country is 80 billion in debt. Kids are living in cars. He has sold our best assets to his rich mates. He sold us out with the tppa. Our farmers are about to go to the wall. But wait now he’s on holiday

What crap, a lot like the process John key implemented for flag change.

What a pathetic summing up. The author must feel that this grown man needs a strong woman to defend him. It’s the sort of justification note teachers received in ancient times from over possessive mothers.

The whole process was politicised by all sides. Accusing Lab/Greens of doing so and not Key/National is itself engaging in political point scoring. Key wanted a new flag and publicly wore a badge of Lockwood’s design. That’s politicising the process.

On it goes for 171 comments, with barely any in support. Remarkable.

64 comments on “Audrey Young trashed in her own comments section”

  1. Dot 1

    A good story ,
    I do not buy The Herald any more , therefore would have missed
    this reaction. I doubt that it will dent the paper’s editorial attitudes.

  2. tc 2

    Yes but it is Easter and we aren’t in an election cycle yet.

    Many times the NACT shills get this type of crap out there without a comments section for folk to point out the obvious bs and spin.

    Granny shilling for the hollowmen as always and providing some pointers for the next diversion strategy.

  3. Anne 3

    It is always good for the soul to discover there are lots of people out there who can see through the veneer of spin and deceit. As time progresses I hope their numbers will continue to increase.

    Poor old Audrey. She was having a major fit of the sulks cos her side lost the debate.

  4. North 4

    Yes. Audrey Young has passed that critical point beyond which she is immediately dismissable as a helpless Key sucker. Not wilful. Just helpless. Seduced. I mean unless you believed it you’d be too embarrassed to write it, surely ?

    Pathetic in a grown person who claims special experience and insight. Check out the biographical notes at the foot of her articles. A tutor in journalism ???

  5. Chris 5

    The trouble is that the result was way closer than expected. More people seemed to warm to the idea as time went on, almost forgetting about how flawed the process was. Labour MPs, for example, throwing support behind red bloody peaks or whatever it’s called seemed quickly not to care that what they were doing was buying into key’s idiocy. If key et al had somehow extended the discussion period he may very well have succeeded and we would’ve been given with a flag with key’s narcissistic face all over it until the end of time.

    • sabine 5.1

      56% vs 43% is not just barely passing. He lost, NZ won. full stop.
      Red Peak (and i was no more fond of this dishrag then the others) was to introduce a somewhat third choice into a selection that was sorely lacking of diversity and genuine choice. Misguided perhaps, but it was pointing out just how odious the choices given to us where. Three times nothing and a black/white hypno flag. National was mocking the whole country, but somehow some of the blame must go to Labour and the Greens?

      • Chris 5.1.1

        “…but somehow some of the blame must go to Labour and the Greens?”

        Yes, for giving support however tacit to key’s ridiculously misguided and narcissistic exercise. Diehard Labour supporters like Leftie are blinded to what happened. I’m not saying that Labour wasn’t critical of things but they certainly weren’t united in opposition to key’s filthy and irresponsible ploy. If they had been I don’t think the result would’ve been so close. And yes, I do think that 56% v 43% is close. The margin was far greater at the beginning of the process and it may have easily been a matter of time for that gap to close. For a lot of people key’s choice “grew” on a lot of people and I think many got sick of the negativity around the exercise how ever fucked up it was. As I said, if key had allowed more time for the discussion the result may well have been different. Thank goodness he didn’t.

        • Leftie 5.1.1.1

          @Chris, you don’t need to get personal. All the blame and failures rests solely on John key’s shoulders, no one else. You are just parroting Audrey Young. Almost 2 years is plenty of time for key to have engaged the public properly, after all didn’t he first raise it back in 2010? John key made it all about him, he politicized it, he did say he wanted it as his legacy.

          What would have been the real result if people hadn’t of tried to game the system in favour of John key? So how trustworthy are the results? In all likelihood, the gap between the winning current flag and the failed John key’s flag could be even greater.

          • Chris 5.1.1.1.1

            Again you’re not addressing one single point I’ve made. Are you doing that deliberately? Or are you just really thick?

            • Leftie 5.1.1.1.1.1

              Shows you can’t read Chris.

            • the pigman 5.1.1.1.1.2

              What points, Chris? Glad Leftie pulled you up on this already. Your central point was that Labour supported this process. But that is revealed for the baseless lie it is. Is there anything else to address in there, from the sea of contradictory jumble at 5.1.1? All I see is that your one-eyed hatred for Labour being profoundly dull – anything I’ve missed?

    • Leftie 5.2

      @Chris, it was the Greens who pushed for the inclusion of Red Peak. Others supported the move to give people more choice in an inherently flawed process. Key, in his desperation, changed the rules to allow it, but refused to allow a yes/no question, that would have saved tax payers a lot of time and money.

      • Chris 5.2.1

        For fuck’s sake. You’ve been back for 5 minutes and already I’m sick of your inability to read.

        • Leftie 5.2.1.1

          I can read well and respond accordingly. Just pulled you up on your bull, that’s all. You don’t have to read my posts Chris.

          • Chris 5.2.1.1.1

            I enjoy reading your posts.

          • Chris 5.2.1.1.2

            I didn’t say Labour supported key’s flag change fiasco in an upfront way as you’re suggesting I said. I did say that by not taking a strong united position Labour was giving tacit support to the idea that the flag could be changed via the process key was foisting upon us. The red bloody peaks campaign is proof of that. And I’m just as critical of the Greens and other parties that also failed to take a proper stand against what key was trying to do. I single Labour out because they’re supposed to be the main opposition party leading the attack on what key and his mates have done to NZ over almost three terms and who are about to embark on a fourth. Labour ought to know better.

            http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/284312/50,000-names-speak-for-the-peak

            • Leftie 5.2.1.1.2.1

              @Chris. Why do National supporters like yourself think that the Key government will be in line for a 4th term? rofl, in your dreams. The blame for the flag fiasco that wasted tax payer time and money lies with John key. No one else. You are senselessly singling out Labour for no other reason than to bash it. Thanks for the supporting link that shows it was the Greens who pushed for the inclusion of Red Peak. Others supported the move to give people more choice in an inherently flawed process. Key, in his desperation, changed the rules to allow it, but refused to allow a yes/no question, that would have saved tax payers a lot of time and money.

              • Chris

                “Others supported the move to give people more choice in an inherently flawed process.”

                There’s your tacit support there, little man.

                • Leftie

                  Well no, it is not actually. Have you got little man syndrome? You are implying that Labour was trying to change the flag via the process, which is untrue. Remember, it was Labour that wanted the inclusion of the yes/no question to save the tax payer a lot of time and money.

                  • Chris

                    I think I know what I was implying.

                    “it was Labour that wanted the inclusion of the yes/no question to save the tax payer a lot of time and money.” Again, more evidence of Labour’s tacit support for Key’s narcissistic personal project.

                    Read what I’ve said: at no time did Labour take a forceful and united position against what key was doing. How do you think Jacinda Ardern ended up showing public support for the inclusion of red bloody peaks or whatever it’s called? Because Labour showed no guts as an opposition by slamming key and the whole process. Instead we see Ardern in a photo op showing active participation in that flawed process, which equals tacit support.

                    If you don’t get this now you are extremely fucking thick.

                    • Leftie

                      @Chris. There are no doubts about it, you are thick, and all you want to do is bash Labour. What you have implied, no matter how many times you repeat your bull, it is still not true.

                      “It was Labour that wanted the inclusion of the yes/no question to save the tax payer a lot of time and money.”…. AFTER John key refused point blank to put a halt to his referendum. National’s “standfor” website overwhelmingly showed the majority of NZers had no stomach for change. Labour acknowledged the will of the majority, said its not the right time for it and told Key to stop. So why didn’t your leader John key listen to the people like Labour did?

    • the pigman 5.3

      Ahaha Chris your Labour vendetta would make another author on this blog blush…! Shameless!

      It wasn’t Labour MPs backing Red Peak.
      It was the Greens.
      It was the Greens who gave the process legitimacy by doing a shabby little deal with Key.

  6. Keith 6

    Audrey Young is an advertorial writer for the National Party and a warning should be given as such. Labour convinced Judith Collins to vote for the current flag to follow Audreys logic, amazing stuff really.

    I reckon had the red and blue version of Keys flag , the one that won the first ballot, been left the winner rather than the Mickey Mouse voting system to give John the flag he wanted, well that would have sneaked the flag change over the line. But I believe Key didn’t like the redness, too Labour. Dumb arse!

    • BM 6.1

      Have you not seen the Labour logo?

      http://iforce.co.nz/i/kzciwi1h.4ni.jpg

      I think it is you, who is the dumbarse.

      • North 6.1.1

        Poor BM – stampeded and hurting as much if not more than Audrey ‘Sprung’ Young. As evidenced by his/her ridiculous non-sequitur centred on Labour’s colours at 6.1 above.

    • Anne 6.2

      You are spot on Keith. I, too, have suspected the red/blue/white version might have won but Key and his toadies wanted the blue/black/white version because they are the National Party campaign colours. They saw it as a permanent subliminal reminder of themselves that would see them in govt. forever and a day. Dumb arses is almost too kind an adjective for them.

      I’m looking forward to driving past Maggie Barry’s electorate office to see if the tall flag pole – from which the tea towel has been proudly billowing since the beginning of the year – has been taken away in a fit of pique.

  7. swordfish 7

    Banal, barely-disguised, apologetics from Audrey (I’m assuming she, rather than her National MP brother, wrote it ? – has more than a whiff of Nat Comms about it).

    Suggesting (somewhat tortuously) that it “should be easy for John Key to defend himself against inevitable criticism in the immediate wake of the result from critics”, Our Audrey goes on to list a few examples (and, by employing the term “easy”, she’s clearly implying that most of the general public/voters will accept Key’s responses):

    Here are two examples of her mendacity:

    (1) “To those say who say (sic) people should have been asked first if they wanted change, it was a question biased toward no change.”

    Audrey clearly believes most voters will accept that argument. But here’s what the polls suggest …

    In an April 2015 Herald-Digi (ie The Herald’s very own Pollster) almost 80% believed that the first referendum should ask if the public wants a flag change in the first place (rather than waiting to pit the current flag against the alternative in the second referendum).

    In the UMR Poll of February 2016, 66% of voters (including a plurality (47%) of Nat voters) agreed that The Flag Referendum has been a distraction and a waste of money. New Zealanders should send John Key a message by voting for the current flag.

    And back in February 2014, a Colmar Brunton Poll found only 2% thought that changing the flag was an important issue.

    Taken together, those 3 pieces of polling evidence would appear to undermine Audrey’s attempt to reassure our esteemed PM and his supporters.
    .

    (2) “To those who thought it was a waste of money, it is not what they were saying in 2013 on the referendum for state asset sales for which the government had received a clear mandate at the 2011 election.”

    For a start, as we’ve seen (above), fully Two-Thirds of voters agree that the whole thing has been a waste of money – not some sort of small harping hardcore lefty minority as Audrey implies. I really don’t think 66% of people are suddenly gonna change their minds and cheerfully accept that, hey !, the flag referenda wasn’t a waste of money after all because, you know, there was that asset sales referendum a while back, so we’d be hypocrites if we objected to this. What ever were we thinking of ??? There is such a thing as Wishful Thinking, Aud.

    Second, there was no clear mandate for asset sales at the 2011 General Election. Every single poll carried out on the issue found large-to-overwhelming majorities (including a large minority of Nat voters) opposed to asset sales. And the 2013 Referendum Result = 67% against.

    As numerous political scientists, other scholars and various commentators have painstakingly pointed out over the years, Election ‘Mandates’ just don’t work like that.

    And, of course, a number of Polls carried out immediately after the 2011 Election confirmed that large majorities remained opposed to the planned partial privatisations (eg 3 News Reid Research Feb 2012 – 62% opposed (including a third of Nats).

    As Political Scientist, Stephen Levine, commented at the time: it was only Key’s personal popularity in 2011 that was “preventing opposition to asset sales from hurting National in the polls.”

    Maybe Audrey should have read the editorial of one of her own Paper’s Herald-DigiPoll reports: It suggests that “Not even the most ardent National party supporter would claim the party had convinced a majority of the public of the merits of flogging off our assets” and “clearly, a crucial number of those uncomfortable with the idea of floating even a minority stake in state companies supported National (at the 2011 Election) despite the policy”.
    The editorial was, of course, mistaken – there was, and apparently still is, one ardent Nat (dear old Aud herself) who’s happy to make this claim.

    Third, I don’t think Audrey is quite so daft that she really believes what she’s arguing here – that voters think this Flag Referenda has been a waste of money because they believe ALL Referenda are. As the Polls on asset sales revealed, large numbers were mobilised over an issue that angered them. Hence, it was a Citizens initiated Referendum. In stark contrast, only 2% of New Zealanders thought changing the flag was of any importance whatsoever, with these two Referenda forced on voters. Theres a crucial difference for those without ideological blinders to see.

    • Jenny Kirk 7.1

      Its good to have your reminding us of all these polling events, Swordfish – because now that the MSM have cried and booed and YanKey is over in his favourite place, they are going to come up with another distraction.

      Fran whatshername has started in the Herald with an item saying Key wants to make NZ the Switzerland of the Pacific. Deja vue. Just what Roger Douglas wanted almost 30 years ago – he wanted to make NZ the Hong Kong of the Pacific. Nothing new here …… it didn’t work then, it won’t work now.

      • Tautuhi 7.1.1

        New Zealand is the Hong Kong of the South Pacific with all these [Nat: nah] little people buying up most of Auckland’s cheap real estate?

        • fender 7.1.1.1

          Wish you could have thought a little more deeply about your choice of language here.

        • ropata 7.1.1.2

          Seems accurate. The whole “immigrant investor” scheme is legal money laundering approved by NatCorp Inc™. There are thousands of immigrants buying up all the fscking property under the “investor” scheme (have to “invest” 1.5 million NZD within 2 years) and Kiwis don’t get a look in.

          South China Morning Post:

          China was the nation’s biggest source of long-term arrivals at 6,200, followed by 6,100 from India and 5,800 from Britain over the same period. Ming Tiang, head of Chiwi Immigration Services in Auckland, said that half of all Chinese immigrants to the country arrived through the investor scheme. The rest were parents whose children studied there.

          It’s the biggest election bribe of all time, pleasing FJK’s well heeled constituency & fuxking hard working Kiwis

    • Incognito 7.2

      I thought the flag referendum was a little unusual because it was a binding referendum while all other referenda have been non-binding IIRC.

    • Sacha 7.3

      Thanks for laying out the detail, mr swordfish. #onya

    • Hanswurst 7.4

      I think that two separate issues are often conflated when talking about National’s mandate or otherwise for asset sales. The asset sales were an election issue, and National won the 2011 election. Therefore they had a mandate – clear as day – to carry out the sales, which they did on pretty much exactly the terms they had laid out before the election.

      It’s also true that most people voted for parties that were against asset sales, that a large swathe of the voting public felt strong enough about it to kick off a citizens-initiated referendum on the issue, and that an even larger number were moved to vote against the sales in said referendum.

      However, citizens-initiated referenda don’t confer a mandate in NZ, whereas a general election does. In following through with the asset sales, the National government were not going over the heads of the public, flouting electoral principle – or, in fact, doing anything at all out of the ordinary as regards the functions of government in this country. It’s apparently important in NZ to stress a fairly elementary principle: if you don’t want the policies that National are offering, don’t vote for them.

  8. Bearded Git 8

    Can’t believe I’m saying this but I almost miss John Armstrong’s columns after reading Audrey’s Key arse-licking poison. The Cunliffe “resignation-time” letter fiasco aside Armstrong at least tried to give a veneer of balance to his pro-Gnat articles.

    No such subtlety with Audrey. She hasn’t the wit to realise that by being so biased her status as a political commentator is devalued and because of this she is ignored by many.

    Or maybe she is simply acting under orders.

    • Jenny Kirk 8.1

      She must be acting under orders, BG – no-one could possibly believe the tripe she writes, not even her.

      • RedBaronCV 8.1.1

        Heaven forbid, that the flag referendum =Nact popularity. I’m suspecting strict instructions are around to try not to let that idea get a toe hold. Hence the level of diversion..etc

      • Stephen Doyle 8.1.2

        We must remember who her father was, Venn Young, National minister under Muldoon. Her brother is current National MP Jonathon Young.
        Apples tend not to fall too far from trees.

      • Hanswurst 8.1.3

        I don’t think propaganda necessarily works that way. Granted, Young’s points are not remotely plausible, to the extent that it’s difficult to discern an argument from the collective thrust of her points. I think, though, that the article relies on there being a large number among the readership who are disposed towards thinking favourably of Mr. Key, but whose opinion of him might be dented by the publicity surrounding the flag referenda and the way the vote went. Young’s function is to provide a comforting headline and a readable article with a vaguely reasonable tone that will convince enough of those readers to think, “My favourable opinion of Key is justified – after all, there’s even an article in a newspaper to prove it”.

  9. Anne 9

    In contrast the outgoing GG makes this simple statement on RNZ:

    “Sometimes we’ve got distracted, and that’s the nature of politics, and that’s also possibly the nature of such an important emblem of who we are – this represents us. That’s the thing I think is special, and should have been special about what we were talking about.”

    “The neatest thing I’ve heard about this was last year. It was a young woman from Auckland who said: ‘This is not a branding exercise. This is our flag, this represents us. It’s important’. And that’s the thing that was special, and should have been special to talk about.”

    A strong criticism of the govt. and John Key wrapped in diplomatic speak?

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/201794767

    • ropata 9.1

      Very well put, I would go further and state that the Lockwood flag ONLY represented the NatCorp™-loving well-heeled gated community class. They have gotten away with an awful lot in the last 8 years but this one was so obnoxious and transparently ego driven that Kiwis saw through the BS spin campaign.

      Plus it came just after the huge TPPA outcry where FJK further pissed off a large proportion of NZ, who were already annoyed by his asset sales & housing crisis & disdain for the poor.

  10. Richard@Down South 10

    National Debt Clocks.org

    New Zealand National Debt
    National Debt of New Zealand

    NZ$ 117,832,178,641

    and climbing…

  11. Tautuhi 11

    Evidently the debt isn’t a problem according to Key and English, if Labour had run up this debt National and the Press would be screaming “blue murder”?

  12. mary_a 12

    And both of Audrey Young’s NZH’s opinion pieces were closed off early, before too much critical debate could go up!

    Under strict instruction to keep the masses uninformed, with the intention of praising Most Deceitful Leader in any situation, through subliminal thought manipulation!

    Crosby Textor working hard to save their golden boy, who’s surface is becoming somewhat tarnished now! Good.

  13. newsense 13

    Well, Audrey likes to be the reasonable moderate. To find out that people have different interpretations of that and for once in a blue moon the blue rinse team has jumped the wrong way needs explaining some how. Grant dunnit.

  14. Sacha 14

    Real journalists are capable of rising above their own cognitive dissonance.

  15. logie97 15

    So many losers still flying the flag that came second from their flagpoles. Wonder if they will be replaced by the original and official flag by ANZAC day.

  16. grumpystilskin 16

    I worked on the pro flag change video. All the business people voiced an opinion on the flag being a marketing tool to differentiate our products overseas. As I’ve said time and time again, whats wrong with the “Made in NZ” Kiwi logo? Doesn’t warrant a flag change in my opinion.. Like most, that 26 million may have boosted nz posts income ($12Million from memory) but I’d rather someone like rape crises in Chch not be closed along with other important social providers getting some well needed cash.

  17. Wendigo Jane 17

    The PM’s admirers lost the plot long ago. I’m still laughing about this in Tracy Watkin’s column of 5 March about cyber bullying: “One meme apparently doing the rounds on Facebook, for instance, has Key standing in front of a flag bearing a silver fern which slowly morphs into a ponytail. And that’s a tame one. ” OMG – that’s a TAME one??!!! Gasp!! Can you imagine how completely shocking and offensive the others must be??!!

  18. Nick 18

    I voted specifically against key, because he tainted the whole thing because he forced it onto NZ. I would love to know the real reason he drove it, I don’t believe he had any real interest in a flag, he’s too shallow to worry about deep stuff with meaning….. So what was his true motive?

    • Anne 18.1

      So what was his true motive?

      Simple. He wanted to be sure his name was writ in historical lights as the prime minister who gave NZ a new flag. In other words his motivation was self interest. The only thing that matters to PM Key is: what’s in it for me?

      • peterlepaysan 18.1.1

        That is what Wall Street traders believe in,absolutely. Nothing else matters.

    • Ffloyd 18.2

      @Nick. I think that key uses these sort of issues as a litmus test. Like thinking that,if he can get away with rail-roading us into the result that he wants then all is as usual and he can carry on using the same strategies. Compliant media, derision of the opposition, lies, deceit, disappearing when the going gets tough (cowardice), the list goes on. If, in spite of all his machinations his pollings stay up then he will see this as validation that what he is doing is working. Therefore the status quo applies. He’s like a little bulldozer. He won’t quit until his fuel runs out. Until he is called out on every thing that he does,every time he does it, straight away, and loudly, he will carry on in his same little rut. His fuel will run out eventually. It might be sooner than he thinks. His only cheerleaders seem to be A.Young TWatkins, Pinky Hoskins(baby mouse), sad delusional p Henry and Rat up the drainpipe Gower. Everyone is so fed up with their boring predictable Labour/Little bashing and rs licking key/National that you don’t have to read their scribbling or listen to their world weary man of the world ramblings to know what is coming. Oh, forgot about Trevvie. Where has she got to. Banished to anonymous Editorials perhaps.

    • Jerko 18.3

      Good observation Nick! Key is too shallow to worry about deep stuff with meaning. That is what became obvious to the people who voted to keep the current flag. He wanted a flag that was a symbol of the ” shallow meaningless” people who continue to be duped by him and his puppeteers. I should emphasize Puppeteers because, I doubt that he can produce an original idea to save himself. And if that was it – well he is history. What hasn’t been mentioned is that the percentage of votes for his choice was about the same as his support in the polls which I find interesting. That has got to say something about the polls surely.

  19. AB 19

    New high point in hysteria from Audrey.
    They can’t bear the truth – a shallow, vulgar design almost foisted on us by a shallow, vulgar man. A bullet dodged.

  20. Lloyd 20

    The flag fiasco provides a wonderful slogan for the next election –

    “FLAG JOHN”

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    When military leaders cover up and lie to elected civilian authorities, the foundation of democratic civil-military relations is undermined because it is those authorities who are entrusted to hold the military accountable to the public that they mutually serve. But this is only true if civilian political authorities take their ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Challenging the voting age in court
    The Make It 16 campaign to lower the voting age is launching this afternoon, and they have already announced plans to challenge the law in court:The campaign, named "Make it 16" will launch at Parliament on Friday, with plans to take their case to the High Court, testing the rights ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Israel’s elections herald a long siesta
    by Daphna Whitmore The long years of Netanyahu’s reign are drawing to an end. For years he has epitomized reactionary zionism as he oversaw hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers seize land in the West Bank. There are now 700,000 settlers, putting an end to the myth that Israel was ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    5 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    5 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    5 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    7 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    7 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    1 week ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    1 week ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    2 weeks ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

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