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1. Draco T Bastard 1

   27 January 2011 at 6:23 pm

   LOL

   So, now having followed JK in 2k8 we’ll become like Ireland is now? Because his plans, such as they are, just lead in the same direction.
   • ZeeBop 1.1

     28 January 2011 at 6:25 am

     Key’s polling is absymal so they stage a you-like-him-dont-you poll that show Key is 50-50. Now they take their analysis about what issues, ideals, talking points are hurting Key, and the turn around and get Key to ‘feel’ the pain of th electorate. This means contradicting himself, over Ireland, over GST, over tax cuts creating huge debt because GST dropped (like that should not have been a shock) and how Key has our back when it comes to selling NZ cheap to foreigners.

     You can tell the idiots, they support JK, anyone who thinks this lying bag of shit platitudes is a PM worthy of support is a idiot. Only an idiot would cheer JK when the economy is failing, is going to continue failing, and Key has nothing.
     Sure we all get the bandwagon effect where if the economy is doing well you support the business party because then you get to crow. But when the business party is so crony, so corrupt in its language, why would anyone still trust Key?

     Labour should have known Key would flip and start talking yet more nonsense that didn’t make sense to Key’s previous positions. But where is Labour, why hasn’t Labour got its own newsvideo center with its own past list of Key’s contrary statements and posting them on YouTube? I mean it why isn’t there a before and after Ireland video viral on the web, before debt and after debt.
     • BLiP 1.1.1

       28 January 2011 at 7:11 am

       But where is Labour, why hasn’t Labour got its own newsvideo center with its own past list of Key’s contrary statements and posting them on YouTube? I mean it why isn’t there a before and after Ireland video viral on the web, before debt and after debt.

       Labour has to be bit careful about playing the “you said this” game because they are guilty of it too. I suspect they are resisting the urge in an effort to stay positive during the campaign. But, look – Here’s what David Cunliffe said about PPPs in August 2010:

       The Government’s move towards public-private partnerships (PPPs) for big infrastructure projects is facing mounting criticism, with Labour saying it will inevitably lead to fire sales of state-owned assets . . . [snip] . . . “This is one more desperate ploy by a government with no coherent plan for growing the economy or creating jobs,” Labour’s finance spokesman David Cunliffe said today. “It desperately hopes the private sector will finance projects it lacks the vision, courage or resources to do itself.” Mr Cunliffe said PPPs were a sop to private interests and had nothing to do with prudent asset management. “It will inevitably lead to bad decision-making, fire sales of crown assets and higher capital costs for taxpayers,” he said. “Negotiating PPPs with savvy investment banks requires specialist skills most crown entities simply don’t have, so National’s one-size-fits-all approach risks taxpayers being taken for a ride.”

       And here’s what David Cunliffe said about PPPs just two months later in November 2010:

       Crucially in a capital constrained fiscal environment, we will better leverage the Crown’s balance sheet in new and innovative ways. We can expand public-private partnerships for new transport infrastructure. The project scale must be right and the PPP benefits must outweigh any increase in cost of capital, but that leaves plenty of scope for win-wins. We can unleash State Owned Enterprises to create and grow new subsidiaries with private partners and shareholders, without diluting the taxpayer’s equity, or wholly or partially privatizing the SOE

       There’s the PPP flip-flop aspect but there’s also the subtle non-difference between “selling” state assets and “leveraging” state assets. Neither is acceptable yet both main parties appear to have very little else to offer. Do we sell the house, or mortgage the house – what would you prefer: Coke or Pepsi?

       The only party offering something new and sustainable is the Greens – policy which Labour has already started to nick.
2. mickysavage 2

   27 January 2011 at 6:34 pm

   Where is he leading us? Along an incomplete bike path?
3. Jono 3

   27 January 2011 at 6:37 pm

   Yeah, I remember Bill English coming to uni in early 2008 & earnestly telling us about how brilliant Ireland is and how New Zealand needs to turn into the ‘Celtic Tiger’ of the Pacific by becoming a financial hub, rah rah rah and the rest of it.
   • KJT 3.1

     27 January 2011 at 6:47 pm

     So successful for UK that finance is almost the only part of the economy they have left.
     • Colonial Viper 3.1.1

       27 January 2011 at 6:55 pm

       Why worry about the unemployed or the little people when you are getting unlimited million pound bonuses?

       http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jan/10/banks-unlimited-bonuses-ministers?intcmp=239
       • The Voice of Reason 3.1.1.1

         27 January 2011 at 7:30 pm

         The little people, CV? It’s worse than I thought if even the Leprechauns are doing it tough.
         • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.1.1

           27 January 2011 at 7:37 pm

           😀
           • Rosy 3.1.1.1.1.1

             28 January 2011 at 12:04 am

             Financial Feudalism rulz, ok.

             Captcha: occupied… by the men in pinstriped suits
     • M 3.1.2

       28 January 2011 at 9:06 am

       From what’s been in the news re Britain’s situation the bankruptcy papers ready, they just haven’t filed them yet.
4. ianmac 4

   27 January 2011 at 7:26 pm

   Wonder how John could answer your point Bunji? His troopers who write so vigorously here will be hard put to counter. John’s words speak for himself.
   • McFlock 4.1

     28 January 2011 at 1:07 am

     Hmmm – they’ve been pretty quiet so far. Must be because it was posted outside work hours. They’ll catch up.
5. BLiP 5

   27 January 2011 at 7:40 pm

   I’m always struck by the similarities between New Zealand and Ireland. We are the same size in terms of population, and we are both green, hilly, and have strong agricultural economies.

   There are differences too. Ireland is also more prosperous than New Zealand. That hasn’t always been the case. Just fifteen years ago, the Irish and New Zealand economies were on a par. We were both poor performers compared to other developed countries.

   Nothing much has changed in New Zealand. But Ireland has gone from being one of the poorest countries in Europe to being one of the wealthiest. It’s done this by adopting policies that encourage business growth, improve the skills of its young people, and entice Irish people all over the world to return home to live and work.

   John Key October 2007
   • Colonial Viper 5.1

     27 January 2011 at 7:58 pm

     Here is at least one more thing NZ shares with Ireland that we should get John Key to talk about

     http://www.independent.ie/national-news/58000-of-lost-generation-forced-to-leave-2511023.html

     MORE than 58,000 people under 25 will emigrate over the next year, according to the authors of a new study.

     ‘The Forgotten Generation’ gives a worrying insight into the difficulties faced by young jobseekers, according to National Youth Council of Ireland president Orlaith McBride.

     Official figures show that a third of all young men in Ireland are unemployed, but the real number is masked by those staying in the education system or emigrating, she said.

     The research consisted of one-to-one interviews with 90 young jobseekers, all of whom agreed that the prospect of securing rewarding employment in Ireland was not very good.

     Other findings included:

     * 70pc agreed it is likely that they will emigrate in the next 12 months.
     * 90pc agreed that being unemployed has a negative effect on their sense of well-being.
     * 50pc rated the quality of the information or support provided by a social welfare job facilitator as unsatisfactory or poor.

     Youth council assistant director James Doorley said the research confirmed that the consequences of rising unemployment are severe for young people.
   • Gary Stewart 5.2

     31 January 2011 at 11:52 am

     the KEY difference between Ireland and New Zealand is that we are not just off the coast of Europe
6. jimmy 6

   27 January 2011 at 9:17 pm

   lol, what more needs to be said?
7. Marty G 7

   27 January 2011 at 10:26 pm

   It was only back in December that Key was confirming he still wanted us to copy Ireland http://thestandard.org.nz/key-still-wants-to-be-ireland/ just as he was still saying debt wasn’t a problem.

   it’s like they had a meeting when they got back from holiday and said ‘ok what is going to be our excuse for privatisation? anyone?’ there was an awkward silence and english said ‘debt?’ and debt it was

   hope you don’t mind that i made a new pic when i stickied this one, bunji.
   • Bunji 7.1

     27 January 2011 at 11:54 pm

     no probs…
8. Gary 8

   29 January 2011 at 6:15 am

   On tuesday you will have a new PM.

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