Should We Fear Judith Collins?

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The Newshub/Reid Research poll is clearly devastating for National and its current leader, Simon Bridges. It’s even worse than the last Colmar Brunton poll, which also had Labour leading the Tories.*

The trend is clear; National under Bridges are stuffed.

The question facing the Tory caucus when they meet this morning is exactly what to do about it.

Logic would say Simon’s had his run. He went on a limo tour of NZ last year to introduce himself to ‘ordinary New Zealanders’. Turns out New Zealanders think Bridges is very, very ordinary indeed.

Letting simple Simon continue as leader is simply cruel.

However, the difficulty is two fold. First, they have to work out the timing of his dumping. Too early and the Nats risk the new leader having their honeymoon period when nothing much is going on. Too late and Bridges will have dragged them even further down in the mire.

Remember, this is a man whose electoral strategy is entirely based around popularity. Bridges is relying on no mates National achieving a 47% vote, something unheard of under MMP.

But its the other part of the equation that is most vexing for National. 

Who is going to lead them to inevitable defeat in the next election?

Frankly, it has to be Judith Collins. There’s no one else with even a skerrick of positive name recognition out in voterland.

And that change should worry the left not a jot.

Collins is past her sell by date. Any chance of her really achieving anything politically was under the last Tory Government.

She’s had a past, but at present, she has no future.

But, she’s still National’s best bet. Like Mike Moore for Labour in 1990, she can save the furniture. But that’s as good as it gets.

I’ve said it before and I’ll repeat it here. The next National Prime Minister has not yet entered Parliament.

That’s the real task for the Tories.

Start scouting now, National, and you might have a shot in 2023.

Or, just hang on to Simon and see how bad things really get.

 

 

 *Correction: The October CM poll had Labour on 45, Nats 43. The December CM had National on 46, Labour 43. In both polls, National fell well short of being able to form a Government without NZ First support.

 Thanks to Alwyn for spotting the error.

 

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  1. Kat 1
    12 February 2019 at 10:44 am

    Judith Collins like Simon Bridges will never be PM of this country. The Nat helicopter is still on standby for that potential role……sometime in the very distant future.

    • woodart 1.1
      12 February 2019 at 2:35 pm

      the nat helicopter will be funded by the chinese, so whoever they parachute in, will be bought and paid for well before delivery.

      • patricia bremner 1.1.1
        12 February 2019 at 3:28 pm

        That is another problem for them, authenticity!! Who? Why?
        Everyone will look at any new National Party Leader and ask, who do you answer to?
        The bad taste of the “Donation” and the “Discussion” of candidates lingers.

        MP Collins was stood down by John Key, now Teflon John did not like making decisions… he generally delayed, so you know Collins had a case to answer.

        MP Mitchell, now he is tarred by mercenary status and lacks finesse. He won’t do.

        MP Adams is too close to the 1%

        Mp Smith? Too many dirty rivers under too many bridges.

        May be Teflon John has a friend? Hang on that didn’t go so well before.

        As they realise their millions have been for naught, their backers will fold the tent and like all Money men, invest elsewhere.

        A Green Blue Team? Now there’s an idea ……

  2. Enough is Enough 2
    12 February 2019 at 10:48 am

    It is looking more and more like it will be a two horse race next year.

    As is the case with most minor parties in government, they bleed support. NZ First is going the same way it did the last two times it was in government, dipping below 5%. The Greens are heading south as well.

    This is not surprising and is simply history repeating itself. Look at ACT, the Alliance, United Future, Maori Party etc etc. With out a safe electorate seat those monor parties disappeared (or should have in the case of ACT)

    So we will have an old school two party election which will simply be Jacinda v Simon/Judith.

    Judith is so divisive that I don’t think they will gamble with that option. For that reason I think they will stick with Simon.

    • Sacha 2.1
      12 February 2019 at 10:56 am

      There wil be more than two parties in the next parliament, despte the Nats’ wet dreams otherwise.

      • You_Fool 2.1.1
        12 February 2019 at 11:48 am

        Could be as many as 6-7, especially if Labour decide to do electoral reform to the recommendation of the last commission…

        Doing so will be a killing blow to national, but may save the right… If the % is dropped to 4% or 3% it will give new parties a better chance, so support for National will drop and other parties pick it up on issues that matter to that specific 3-5% (the so called new conservatives (4%), the sea-greens (3%), a JC led new act party (2.5% + Papakura), a JLR new new act party (2% + Botany), plus OG Act hanging out in Epsom with their 1%) all mostly out of Nat support (Nat ~30%), Greens and NZ-first climb at some loss to Lab… (~10% greens, ~8% NZF, ~35% Lab)

        Then we get to see the real colour of the sea-greens, is it green or is it blue….

      • Enough is Enough 2.1.2
        12 February 2019 at 2:59 pm

        This poll suggests it would be more of a wet dream for Labour. In a current two horse race they would destroy National and be rid of the toxic and bigoted Peters.

        • patricia bremner 2.1.2.1
          12 February 2019 at 3:38 pm

          Enough is Enough, Be more respectful.

          Winston Peters had figured out the money for list seats scam” when he warned of Chinese influence. He was NOT being racist He was being a realist.

          Further “Toxic and bigoted” Harsh indeed for the man who wisely handed the reins to Jacinda Ardern.

          • Enough is Enough 2.1.2.1.1
            13 February 2019 at 12:08 pm

            He is toxic and racist and the sooner he is gone the better.

            He will be gone next year and it will be a great day for progressive politics when he does.

          • Unicus 2.1.2.1.2
            15 February 2019 at 8:44 am

            Absolutely

            WP has served parliament and New Zealand with great distinction

            I’m struggling to think of a Green MP of remotely equal calibre

    • That_guy 2.2
      12 February 2019 at 2:13 pm

      Here we go again with people saying the Greens are stuffed. Seven straight elections.

      • Enough is Enough 2.2.1
        12 February 2019 at 2:58 pm

        If you look back at my 7 years of posting on The Standard you will see I have consistently voted for the Greens and most likely will do so again next year.

        My point is more around minor parties in general once they are part of government. They fail to survive unless they have an electorate seat.

        • veutoviper 2.2.1.1
          13 February 2019 at 12:26 pm

          “My point is more around minor parties in general once they are part of government. They fail to survive unless they have an electorate seat.”

          If that is actually the case, by your own logic, then there goes the Green Party next year unless they win an electorate seat. They seem to have a policy these days of not seeking to win electorate seats, and concentrating on winning party votes not electorate votes.

          So why would you – or anyone else – bother to think about wasting your vote(s) by voting Green next year?

          • Enough is Enough 2.2.1.1.1
            13 February 2019 at 12:37 pm

            Yes that is my logic. That is the basis of my first comment if you had read through.

            The Green Party is the one that aligns most closely with my own values so that is why I vote for them. If it appears in late 2020 that my vote will be wasted then I am not really sure what I will do to be honest.

            I am not convinced that Labour has the capability, or even desire, to push through real meaningful change. They talk the talk but seem pretty useless at delivering results. The Kiwibuild fiasco is the clear example of that.

            However if it is a two horse race then the choice will be clear and I will be voting for Labour.

            • veutoviper 2.2.1.1.1.1
              13 February 2019 at 12:49 pm

              I think you need to keep an open mind.

              The type of change that both Labour and the Greens (and even NZF) campaigned on is not the type able to be put in place instantly or even in a year or two.
              Some small incremental steps towards the bigger goals can and have been possible in a short time (eg the energy payment) but others require considerable planning, new infrastructure, changing mindsets etc. Many of the changes once in place will then not show instantaneous results.

              We live in a world of instant responses – eg emails, tweets etc, etc. and now mistakenly think this applies to everything. But this is not possible in all areas of life or governing of a country. It is a bit like turning around a massive cruise ship. Sure some mistakes will be made, but you shouldn’t immediately judge things on these hiccups but on what is done to accept these and move on to find other ways of achieving the same results wanted. Where there is a will, there is a way.

  3. mac1 3
    12 February 2019 at 10:50 am

    National at the moment seems to have a culture that does not attract good leaders, or even in some instances, good people. Perhaps the good people stay away because of this toxic element.

    While those such as Collins and Bennett, Ross and Dowie, Mitchell, Smith and Barrie and are the best contenders, then National is more than friendless.

    Is it all to do with why people go into politics?

    Somehow, I don’t get the impression that this group are there to make a difference for any but the elite and their socially mal-adjusted mates.

    • patricia bremner 3.1
      12 February 2019 at 3:42 pm

      +1 Mac

    • Chris 3.2
      12 February 2019 at 9:23 pm

      The nats currently have nobody, so for as long as that’s the case they’ll be playing musical leaders until someone comes along who’ll win them an election. But that’s the point – they won’t be leaderless forever, and they will be the government again. Labour needs to get cracking and make hay while they can. The biggest task they have is to recreate a caring and compassionate society by undoing the demolition job the nats did on our values in the 1990s. Without that the nats will be free once more to run amok when their leader finally arrives and it’s their turn to govern.

      • mac1 3.2.1
        12 February 2019 at 11:27 pm

        Very true, Chris. And that’s why we should, as good people, be involved in politics.
        Save ourselves from these predators. In all parties. If enough people got involved, not just the single-issue nutters, power seekers, sociopaths, criminals, then we’d get more people like Jacinda Ardern who know what empathy is.

        And stay in, even when our party of choice seems to have lost its way, and the SINPSSC seem to have got some traction.

        Because at some time, so our history tells us, the Nats will be back. I hope their supporters have by then seen enough to select good and honest candidates and officials. As must we………….

        • Chris 3.2.1.1
          13 February 2019 at 6:59 pm

          Yes, I agree, but I’m having less and less confidence in this government’s commitment to real change. Last year Labour passed the Social Security Act 2018. It was introduced by National who claimed it was policy neutral and designed solely for the purpose of removing complexity that had built up over decades of piecemeal reform. The trouble is that the new Act is far from policy neutral, and is more complex than the previous legislation. For Labour to adopt a National government introduced welfare Bill and pass it as their own says a lot, and begs the question are they really interested in making things better for those on the lowest incomes? The answer must be no. Since 1999 those on the left began waiting for the reforms of the 1990s to be wound back. They weren’t and Clark’s Labour government made things worse. Then we had the Key government which kept chipping away even more. The Labour opposition even voted with them on one of their “war on the poor” Bills. Then people saw hope in Ardern’s government – maybe this time it’ll be different? But no, Ardern’s government has adopted National’s complete rewrite of the Social Security Act and passed it into law as a government Bill. With a track record like that it’s no wonder this lot don’t deserve a jot of trust. That’s the problem. They will continue to tell us otherwise, but this government really doesn’t care. Their actions over the past 20 years speak for themselves. Their arrogance in believing people won’t notice beggars belief. But then again, the demolition job National did on our values in the 90s and then again from 2008 has caused very few people to care. So if nobody cares why should Labour care? Simple really.

  4. Sacha 4
    12 February 2019 at 10:58 am

    Collins will never be PM. She might make a loud leader of the Opposition but the factional rifts in her party would be put under so much pressure they might break it. Let’s see if their caucus, officeholders and donors will go for that.

  5. marty mars 5
    12 February 2019 at 11:00 am

    True, sadly simon is their best. The rest are a rabble in disarray. Daft judith ain’t saving them.

  6. Fireblade 6
    12 February 2019 at 11:04 am

    Judith has lost her mojo. She looks bored and tired. It’s like she’s just waiting for her 65 birthday so she can retire.

    Judith reminds me of my grumpy old grandmother, in the rocking chair, knitting socks and watching Coro Street.

    She’s represents the past, not the future and that’s why the stale old National voters like her.

  7. JohnSelway 7
    12 February 2019 at 11:22 am

    Collins is about as warm and electable as a cold bucket of sick

    • Myrtle 7.1
      12 February 2019 at 12:26 pm

      Well a bucket of sick is very attractive compared to the usual dropkick candidates that National sends to the blue regions. Examples of the top of my head include Sarah Dowie, Nick Smith and oh who was that Queenstown MP who liked secret recordings?

  8. UncookedSelachimorpha 8
    12 February 2019 at 11:23 am

    I certainly hope they give Collins a suck at the biscuit. The contrast with Ardern will be fairly stark, and should keep NAct safely out of contention for a little longer.

    A Collins-Brash ticket would be even better!

  9. alwyn 9
    12 February 2019 at 11:26 am

    You poor old thing you.
    Your memory is clearly going. You can’t even remember things that happened less than three months ago. It is a very sad thing to see.
    The last Colmar Brunton Poll, at least according to you, had Labour ahead of National. Can I enlighten your failing memory? The last Colmar Brunton poll had National on 46% and Labour on 43%.
    Just to remind you I have provided a link. I’m sure you will welcome the reminder.
    https://www.colmarbrunton.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Prelim_24-28-November-2018_1-NEWS-Colmar-Brunton-Poll-report-.pdf

    • Robert Guyton 9.1
      12 February 2019 at 11:32 am

      And National’s internal polling had the party on 36%.
      Quite accurate, it turns out.
      I wonder what figure Bridges is hiding from his caucus at today’s meeting?

    • te reo putake 9.2
      12 February 2019 at 11:50 am

      Yes, quite right, Alwyn. It was the October CM poll that had Labour ahead. The following month’s polling, as you note, reversed the order, but still saw Labour on 43%. So the trend is clear; National are well short in the three latest polls and Judith Collins is as good or better than Simon Bridges in the preferred PM section without actually being one of the party’s leaders.

  10. rata 10
    12 February 2019 at 11:28 am

    Labour should fear the fact that despite
    a perfect storm against National
    the blues still have a strong support base.
    The Prime Mumester and her smile honey moon will fade.
    NZ has not had a one term Gov’t since the 1972 Kirk Gov’t
    so a minimum of 2 terms is usually a given.
    But Labour only govern by dint of 73 year old Maverick Winston Peters.
    I fear a one term Labour Gov’t unless they beef up the support cast.
    Labour needs simple strong themes to present a united front or else
    they will be picked off by National the past masters of minority bashing.
    Labour needs strong Lieutenants like National’s Stephen Joyce
    to shield Ardern other wise she will burnt out and implode
    well before the next election.
    Some one like bodyguard Iain McKay to toss aside annoying reporters 🙂

  11. Muttonbird 11
    12 February 2019 at 11:31 am

    Simon won’t want to book an overseas holiday anytime soon.

  12. BM 12
    12 February 2019 at 11:38 am

    Bridges is a smart guy, but if the voters don’t like him then he’s a bit fucked really.

    Bridges, unfortunately, is like Kiwibuild, he’s copped so much bad press and negativity it’s going to be a herculean task to win over the voting public.

    From opposition that probably impossible, like Cunnliffe he’s got skills and intelligence but is prone to the odd brain fart, not liked by the media, talks a bit weird and just doesn’t resonate with the public.

    I don’t think the result for National was that bad as it was done around the same time as Davo’s and the media was rimming Ardern for all they were worth, but a terrible result for Bridges.

    Colmar Brunton poll will probably show Bridges on the same level of support but National neck and neck with labour, that will probably spell the end for Simon.

    Next up will be either Collins or Mitchell.

    • Incognito 12.1
      12 February 2019 at 5:28 pm

      Bridges, unfortunately, is like Kiwibuild, he’s copped so much bad press and negativity it’s going to be a herculean task to win over the voting public.

      False equivalence but nice try.

    • David Mac 12.2
      12 February 2019 at 7:22 pm

      Yep, if a rock star like Sir John doesn’t rise up I think the Nats are entering their Goff, Cunliffe, Shearer, Little season of discontent. Bloody mayhem. It’s not so much the contenders, they’re generally capable and strong. It’s the back-stabbing, conniving wannabes and blood seeking media that destroy public confidence.

      I’m scared of Judith, I think she could land a left hook on my chin that would see me sailing down the hallway. After Nicky blew the Whale apart, she has been the only MP to visibly stick close to Cameron. I think this was foolish. Hands up everyone that wants a tight mate of Cam’s running NZ….Anyone?

  13. Gabby 13
    12 February 2019 at 11:43 am

    More smart arse than smart guy BMmer.

  14. te reo putake 14
    12 February 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Judith Collins ‘not even interested in National leadership’.

    Something she has in common with the rest of NZ, apparently.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12203033

    • veutoviper 14.1
      12 February 2019 at 12:18 pm

      But Jacinda Ardern also said that not long before she found herself in the Labour leadership role. LOL. Sorry …..

      Seriously, IIRC, rumour had it that Collins got next to no support last February in the National leadership contest after English stepped down.

    • James 14.2
      12 February 2019 at 12:21 pm

      Ok. That did make me laugh

  15. Tiger Mountain 15
    12 February 2019 at 12:23 pm

    “fear and loathing” for Judarth? hardly…

    she is a remnant, 20th Century politician, once a would be Thatcher mini-me–a Crusher, duffed up by Nat “Dirty Politics”, and now reduced to Tweeting dubious material

    but never say never in politics I guess…

    • Robert Guyton 15.1
      12 February 2019 at 12:27 pm

      Fear her?
      Be faintly amused, perhaps, feel slight pity, but fear her?
      That’d just feed some unholy beast somewhere, that unreasonable fear.
      Why did an image of Paula Bennet suddenly appear in my mind’s eye, I wonder?

    • JanM 15.2
      12 February 2019 at 12:59 pm

      Many moons ago now my then partner was a parliamentary journalist, and therefore, along with the rest of them, assiduously courted by the Nats – i.e lots of boozy cocktail parties. I was at one just after Muldoon had replaced Marshall as leader of the party. I asked one of their mps why they had done that, as it seemed apparent that he wasn’t well liked. He agreed they didn’t like him much but chose him because he was a populist and they thought he could win for them.
      And that’s the way it works for National – if they decide that Collins would do better than Bridges they would be quite capable of holding their noses and making her their leader, despite disliking her.
      Could be an interesting year!!

  16. Puckish Rogue 16
    12 February 2019 at 1:05 pm

    Labour labour, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when Judith comes for you…

    Soon she’ll take the leadership, then the country and then the world

    It is known

  17. Puckish Rogue 17
    12 February 2019 at 1:05 pm

    Labour labour, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when Judith comes for you…

    Soon she’ll take the leadership, then the country and then the world

    It is known

    • peterh 17.1
      12 February 2019 at 1:19 pm

      And then she may get to 8%, watch out world

    • Robert Guyton 17.2
      12 February 2019 at 1:19 pm

      Why, “Labour labour” (sic)?
      You do know, Pucky, that the Government is a coalition involving Labour, The Greens and NZFirst?
      Perhaps not. Your political vision does seem very narrow.

      • Puckish Rogue 17.2.1
        12 February 2019 at 3:06 pm

        I could say it’s because Winstonfirst is stuffed and it’s not looking good for the Greens but its actually to the tune of bad boys 🙂

    • Dennis Frank 17.3
      12 February 2019 at 1:39 pm

      Apparently propaganda, like advertising, requires two repeats to embed the message. You only did one. Still, two out of three ain’t bad… 😎

  18. bwaghorn 18
    12 February 2019 at 1:06 pm

    Gee if I was involved in left politics I’d like to think the polls were shifting because of the work being done not because the other party is shit .

  19. Robert Guyton 19
    12 February 2019 at 1:23 pm

    Y’know, Pucky, I reckon Judith’s nowhere near the play, in reality. I reckon Bennett has her hand on it and the rest is churn. Judith’s just a detraction distraction. A stalking horse.

    • Puckish Rogue 19.1
      12 February 2019 at 3:08 pm

      Bennett isn’t fit to shine Judith’s shoes let alone carry the party

      • Robert Guyton 19.1.1
        12 February 2019 at 4:23 pm

        The present Deputy of the National Party? Unfit to shine shoes; especially those of a woman stood down by John Key for unbecoming behaviour???
        That’s low , Pucky and you’ve gotta ask, what sort of caucus chooses such a person for their exec??? (The same caucus who will, Pucky-willing, choose Judith! It’s a mucky biz, Pucky!

        • Puckish Rogue 19.1.1.1
          12 February 2019 at 6:35 pm

          Jude will drain the swamp!

          #makenzgreatagain

          • Stuart Munro 19.1.1.1.1
            12 February 2019 at 6:43 pm

            Only to get her paws on the kauri in it.

            • Muttonbird 19.1.1.1.1.1
              12 February 2019 at 7:18 pm

              🤣

              Whoops! I hit a gas pipe.

            • gsays 19.1.1.1.1.2
              12 February 2019 at 8:06 pm

              well said stuart, brilliant.

              • mac1 …
                12 February 2019 at 11:13 pm

                The word swamp triggered a memory of Jack Nicholson in “Easy Rider”. I located it by his crazy cry “nik nik nik nik nik swamp” as George.

                The following is the dialogue. See how apposite it is to the politics of that day, and this.

                “George: You know, this used to be a helluva good country. I can’t understand what’s gone wrong with it.
                Billy: Huh. Man, everybody got chicken, that’s what happened, man. Hey, we can’t even get into like, uh, second-rate hotel, I mean, a second-rate motel. You dig? They think we’re gonna cut their throat or something, man. They’re scared, man.
                George: Oh, they’re not scared of you. They’re scared of what you represent to ’em.
                Billy: Hey man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody needs a haircut.
                George: Oh no. What you represent to them is freedom.
                Billy: What the hell’s wrong with freedom, man? That’s what it’s all about.
                George: Oh yeah, that’s right, that’s what it’s all about, all right. But talkin’ about it and bein’ it – that’s two different things. I mean, it’s real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. ‘Course, don’t ever tell anybody that they’re not free ’cause then they’re gonna get real busy killin’ and maimin’ to prove to you that they are. Oh yeah, they’re gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom, but they see a free individual, it’s gonna scare ’em.
                Billy: Mmmm, well, that don’t make ’em runnin’ scared.
                George: No, it makes ’em dangerous. Nik, nik, nik, nik, nik, nik, nik, nik – Swamp.”

  20. Chris T 20
    12 February 2019 at 1:41 pm

    There is very little change Collins will be made leader anytime soon.

    a) The jobs is a poison chalice atm, she wouldn’t take it

    b) She has little to no chance she would ever get enough of caucus to vote for her. She ain’t exactly trusted in there

    • Dennis Frank 20.1
      12 February 2019 at 1:57 pm

      No need for fear then. Not that I’d be fearful of her as leader! Entertained, more like. But I’d be interested to know if you rate any other caucus members as viable replacements for Bridges.

      I’m inclined to go with TRP’s suggestion that Nats recruit the charismatic doctor. However, to become sufficiently competitive at the jousting, he’d have to lance a lot… 😎

      • Chris T 20.1.1
        12 February 2019 at 2:01 pm

        Mitchell is alright, if he can make it through all the accusations that will come up over his stuff over seas, be they bullshit or exaggerated truth.

        At least he actually has an easy going persona, and is apparently pretty much liked by everyone in the place, so he will come across better.

        • Dennis Frank 20.1.1.1
          12 February 2019 at 2:08 pm

          That’s interesting. Last year I picked up on that easy-going vibe and agree that such a manner is user-friendly to many voters. Being rated as a contender by colleagues is new to me so thanks for that info. It could suffice to give him the edge over her in a run-off. However he will need to develop more of a public profile in the interim.

      • left_forward 20.1.2
        12 February 2019 at 3:36 pm

        Lancelot is a maverick and not a team player – I can’t see him surviving long in parliament.

  21. That_guy 21
    12 February 2019 at 2:16 pm

    I think the focus on leaders is natural but a bit of a red herring.
    The problem is that National is wedded to neoliberalism, neoliberalism doesn’t work, but if they change their stance then they’re just Diet Labour.

    To put it another way: they can’t move because it would change the definition of who they are, but they have to move because who they are isn’t working. So they’re fucked.

    • woodart 21.1
      12 February 2019 at 2:49 pm

      they are facing pretty much the same internal battles that the english ,aus, and as well as having captain queeg ,american right wing parties there pyramid shaped world is imploding, there brand of economic bullshit is being rapidly spat on by hundreds of millions who have suddenly realised they were sold a pyramid scheme. some of them are disappearing into their own creationist universe, some are pretending to be plastic grass, some are buying weapons of mass distruction to prepare for the coming invasion. some are sitting on large property portfolios, whingeing about a cc tax. shit, they might have to fake caring about the poor…….

      • rata 21.1.1
        12 February 2019 at 3:25 pm

        @woodart.
        National won more votes than any other party but were shafted by Peters.
        So National at its lowest is still more popular than Labour.
        Left supporters should remember that when the euphoria
        of theses latest polls wears off.

        • Robert Guyton 21.1.1.1
          12 February 2019 at 4:27 pm

          National failed to bring Peters aboard, rata. Their political skills were insufficient to build the trust and relationship needed, so the fault lies with them entirely. They failed too, to build trust with The Greens, further ensuring their place in Opposition; that’s very poor political behaviour right there. You must feel disappointed that National played the game so poorly and even more disappointed to see them continuing their downward spiral and poor strategy under Bridges.

  22. esoteric pineapples 22
    12 February 2019 at 2:40 pm

    It’s quite obvious who the next National Prime Minister is going to be – Ritchie McCaw!

  23. AB 23
    12 February 2019 at 3:06 pm

    I’m expecting Judith to be on the cusp of gaining the leadership when steamy photos emerge of her, Puckish R and James cavorting on a swamp kauri table-top.
    Puckish will have a sheaf of hastily-compiled odes stuffed down his trousers for the purpose of exaggeration, James will be waving an impaled barbecued steak.
    Happy days.

    p.s. from what I have seen of swamp kauri table tops, they look a lot like tree stumps, so lots of painful pointy bits to give a delightfully sado-masochistic twist to the scene.

    • Puckish Rogue 23.1
      12 February 2019 at 3:09 pm

      Photos are good, the DVDs even better 😉

    • Reality 23.2
      12 February 2019 at 3:14 pm

      What a sight to behold. Perhaps a crushed car to leap onto from the swamp kauri table. And PR and James squealing like besotted teens as they then pass out from their over excitedness.

    • KJT 23.3
      14 February 2019 at 1:45 pm

      Still trying to decide if Collin’s fork in Simon’s sausage, is an image to disgusting to contemplate, or, a source of justifiable mirth!

      Chargrill, anyone.

  24. tsmithfield 24
    12 February 2019 at 3:34 pm

    I think the last poll in a perverse way is good for National.

    It will force them to dump Bridges who just isn’t connecting. I think Collins has too much political baggage to ever be leader. So, not much to fear there.

    But I think the left should be more concerned about Mark Mitchell. He seems to have more of the common touch about him, and could connect better with potential voters.

    Also, I think NZ First and the Greens are both going to disappear at the next election. NZ First is already polling at under 3%, and is likely to have votes drawn away by a rejuvinated conservative party. If a centralist environmental party arises this will erode the Green party vote which only sits at 5.1% in current polls.

    National has shown a willingness to cough up electoral seats in the past. So, I expect they would happily offer seats to a conservative party, a new environmental party, and ACT.

    So, while the left should rightly be pleased with the latest poll, they shouldn’t be counting their chickens.

    • McFlock 24.1
      12 February 2019 at 3:41 pm

      Mercenary Mark? I would have thought he was too junior, and has no experience winning from opposition. Might be a compromise leader.

      I think there are a probably few other former cabinet members who still think they are entitled to have a tilt, and they’ll need to be cleaned out.

      Benefit, for example.

      • tsmithfield 24.1.1
        12 February 2019 at 4:00 pm

        “Mercenary Mark? I would have thought he was too junior, and has no experience winning from opposition.”

        The same could have been said about John Key when he started out. Or Jacinda Ardern for that matter.

        The thing that both John and Jacinda have about them is their ability to relate to the average person. I think this is something Mark brings to the table as well.

        Will be interesting times. Collins is a bit like Peters in that she is a really good stirrer, so would be good in opposition. But not necessarily built for maintaining stability in government.

        • McFlock 24.1.1.1
          12 February 2019 at 4:17 pm

          Key was the anointed one from the start, nurtured and protected. Mitchell won’t have that any more than Soimon does now.

          Ardern had political experience before she entered parliament, and had more years in Parliament before becoming leader than Mitchell would if he takes over any time soon.

          I think he’s an outsider who might run profit from the favourites interfering with each other, but he’s a bit of a lightweight.

        • Psycho Milt 24.1.1.2
          12 February 2019 at 6:44 pm

          Mark brings to the table as well.

          Seriously? Mitchell comes across as one of those guys who’s a top bloke exactly as long as he’s getting what he wants. And even if I’m misjudging him, there’s still a question mark over the extent to which someone who’s made a success of killing people for money is going to “relate to the average person.”

      • Gabby 24.1.2
        12 February 2019 at 4:32 pm

        The advantage with Merc Mitchell from the wealth creator fast following aspirational business leader mob is they know he’s open to offers.

      • Patricia 24.1.3
        12 February 2019 at 9:05 pm

        Mitchell is not much of a stayer so not sure he’d be good for National in the long term.

    • te reo putake 24.2
      12 February 2019 at 4:12 pm

      I’ve been musing on similar lines to yourself, ts. While I’m confident NZF and the Greens will both cross 5%, a deal to gift a Nat seat to a new party might work.

      However, the new party has to do better than ACT and actually bring in coat-tail MP’s. So that means polling around 2-5%. That’s a big ask.

      Then there is the question of which seat should be sacrificed. Epsom Tories are fine with having ACT represent them, but would Auckland Central voters be equally cool about Vernon Tava? I use that seat as an example because I think it’s the only urban electorate in the country that has a high enough National vote and a distinct ‘green’ lean to be on board with the concept.

      There is also the rural Coromandel seat, which has already elected one Green party MP in the past and has, I think, the highest Green Party electorate vote. So, if Scott Simpson stood aside for Tava, maybe that’s a runner.

      The real difficulty I see is that Epsom is a nod and a wink arrangement, which, by and large, the local electors are happy with.

      Sponsoring another cling on party in an unwilling electorate is just going to look desperate. I’m pretty sure that’s why they eventually walked away from the Conservatives last time something similar was proposed.

      • tsmithfield 24.2.1
        12 February 2019 at 4:30 pm

        Whether or not NZ First get past 5% will depend a lot on what Winston decides to do. There are people younger than him in retirement homes!! He is 73 now. Will be 74 by the next election. So, will he want to hang around in parliament until he is nearly 80?

        Also, NZ First suffers from a major demographic problem in that his natural support base tends to be dying off.

        For the Greens to cross the 5% barrier with the likely competition from a central environmental party, then they will need to decay the Labour vote. So, this will result in a bit of a zero sum game in that proportionally the left isn’t likely to be much better off even if the Greens get over 5%.

        BTW a major selling point for a central Environmental party will be that the environment does well regardless of which party is in power. At the moment, the Greens only really have influence when Labour is in power, which historically is less than 50% of the time.

        • McFlock 24.2.1.1
          12 February 2019 at 4:49 pm

          He’ll leave when he is no longer capable or when it is no longer fun. And he seems to really enjoy his job.

          As for its support base, it increases as life expectancies increase. My mum fucking hated Winston in 1997. Now she bloody loves him, mostly for the bus pass. And that assumes NZ1 is still a one-horse wonder, rather than a full party with its own core membership. So… good luck with that.

          As for the Greens, we know what % the Greens get when its centrists fuck off because of all the nasty socialism. Over 5%. That’s why the B/G party won’t siphon the greens below 5%. It might take some from Labour, but the biggest party it will take votes from is the nats – the blue voters who have Green pretensions. Hunting, shooting, fishing types who would go green except for all the lefties, want hunting encouraged rather than 1080, want clean water to fish from, but have city-based incomes in consultancies and stocks. Lifestyle block owners, that sort of thing.

          Do you know of any hunting/shooting/fishing types who have city-based incomes and right-wing political and economic views? They might help out the B/Gs when it comes to staying alive…

          • Dennis Frank 24.2.1.1.1
            12 February 2019 at 5:09 pm

            “we know what % the Greens get when its centrists fuck off because of all the nasty socialism. Over 5%. That’s why the B/G party won’t siphon the greens below 5%. It might take some from Labour, but the biggest party it will take votes from is the nats – the blue voters who have Green pretensions.

            I mostly agree. Centrist departure will be due more to shifting to a more viable vehicle for them than aversion to socialism. I wouldn’t rate that shift as more than 1% at present – maybe only half that.

            As regards Green pretensions, that’s only accurate for some. I quoted Sir Richard Branson a while back, when I saw him say in an interview “I spend all my time thinking about clean energy.” Unfair to deny such folk their passion. I have a book called Ecobarons which profiles exactly how a bunch of successful capitalists are spending their money on Green causes. They are genuine.

            What’s missing from your analysis is a substantial group of centrists who are unlike me. In the media often, saying they’d vote Green if it weren’t for the positioning of the GP. As likely to currently support Labour as National. Dunno why non-alignment is so hard for leftists to comprehend…

            • McFlock 24.2.1.1.1.1
              12 February 2019 at 5:29 pm

              The dude owns a goddamned airline. He might have a “clean” passion, but it’s a pretension.

              And centrist departure from the Greens isn’t a “will be”: with the likes of Kennedy Graham going, for almost all of them I suspect it is a “was”. Hence why I’m not too worried about the Greens getting 5%. If they poll under 8%, I’ll probably vote for them to keep them in, but I don’t think I’ll have to.

              In the media often, saying they’d vote Green if it weren’t for the positioning of the GP. As likely to currently support Labour as National. Dunno why non-alignment is so hard for leftists to comprehend…

              Because if you stand to the side, you’re still picking a side.
              The “non-aligned” going to the B/G is no threat to the greens, because they already don’t vote Green. And if they’re “As likely to currently support Labour as National”, that means that they’re as committed to every other policy area as they are to the environment. So any party that could target their support would be one of zero principle.

              What I suggest is that any committed environmentalists alienated by socialism to the point of voting for nats or labour are probably more likely to vote national than Labour, and that likelihood increases the more committed they are to Green environmental policies. The more they love Green environmental principles, the more they have to hate the left to justify not voting Green. Labour is more left than National. Therefore your “non-aligned” voter is less opposed to National than Labour.

              So, just a different way of calling the B/G a vote-suck on the nats rather than lab/grn.

        • Psycho Milt 24.2.1.2
          12 February 2019 at 6:49 pm

          BTW a major selling point for a central Environmental party will be that the environment does well regardless of which party is in power. At the moment, the Greens only really have influence when Labour is in power…

          1. How’d that work out for TOP?

          2. The fact that an environmental party only has significant influence when Labour is in power ought to be a red flag for any environment-friendly voters contemplating a vote for Tava’s party.

      • McFlock 24.2.2
        12 February 2019 at 4:38 pm

        If TOP had had a lot of media benevolence and less polarising people involved, it might have hit 5% in its first election.

        But it’s a big and expensive call for what would essentially be a Nat “Hail Mary we really need friends but we don’t understand the concept”.

      • gsays 24.2.3
        12 February 2019 at 8:12 pm

        hey trp, what are the chances of labour having an arrangement where it is a lot easier for the green candidate to succeed?
        going to show my ignorance a little here by suggesting nick smiths electorate.

        suggestions for other electorates..

        • te reo putake 24.2.3.1
          13 February 2019 at 12:45 pm

          Labour has always stood in every seat, gsays. I can only think of three occasions where they really only put in a token effort in order to help someone else win.

          That’d be the Rangitikei by-election in 1978 (Bruce Beetham won for Social Credit), Coromandel in 1999 (?) when Jeannette Fitzsimons won for the Greens, and the recent Northland by-election, where the party effectively stopped campaigning when it looked like Winston could win, which he did.

          Nelson does come up as a possible Green seat, however Nick Smith is personally popular, so it might be a runner when he retires, but not before, in my opinion.

          Personally, I’d like the Greens to not stand in clearly marginal seats. The combined Labour/Green vote in some electorates is higher than the winning Tory’s total, so both parties standing is daft. It wouldn’t change the overall number of MP’s, but it does mean that your local MP could be someone who cares about their community.

    • Robert Guyton 24.3
      12 February 2019 at 4:31 pm

      “I think the last poll in a perverse way is good for National.”
      Of course you do, but then, you vote for them, don’t you, proving your judgement is askew.

    • cleangreen 24.4
      12 February 2019 at 7:53 pm

      Agreed TS

      National always use giving a ‘safe seat’ to anyone who is prepared to do their dirty work and ACT have been in the game over the years as being propped up by ‘the rotting bones of national’. Rodney Hide, John Banks and now David Seymour and who’s next? .

      Labour should also play that game now; – to hold onto power.

      “Whats good for the goose is good for the Gander too”!!!!!!!

      You can see that National are scheming this way in 2020.

  25. Gabby 25
    12 February 2019 at 4:34 pm

    Has anyone asked Pullya for her opinion on the moral example set by a female colleague yet?

  26. Sacha 26
    12 February 2019 at 5:09 pm

    “Opposition leader is the toughest job in politics and I’ve seen a few come and go,” Ms Collins said.
    “I’m a lovely sweet person, not given to that sort of toughness at all. I’m just sometimes resolute.”

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/382281/mps-back-simon-bridges-despite-low-polling

  27. CHCoff 27
    12 February 2019 at 5:33 pm

    There is nine years of disastrous social trends to talk about for the partys trying to be a decent government in their approaches – some will be better than others, but as long as the organisation is able to learn, then progress will be able to be made on those terms with majority support. It’s not rocket science. However a system upgrade is required for sustainability against rapid dismantling down the track when things have run their due course and start becoming stale.

    For the time being though, that being the case the raging 5th column cannot breeze through on trivia like before, nor does it have a leg to stand on in such terms as NZers recognise the shared basics and respect the democratic vote

  28. Stuart Munro 28
    12 February 2019 at 5:45 pm

    Fear of Judith Collins is maybe a bit much like Fear the Walking Dead – not just better buried and starting to smell, but the tail end of an initially profitable franchise that the owners aren’t creative enough to actually replicate. They go through the motions, and the fans don’t mind too much at first, but the fanbase continues to contract.

  29. Sacha 29
    12 February 2019 at 5:53 pm

    Collins deserves our derisive mocking laughter, not fear.

  30. AB 30
    12 February 2019 at 6:19 pm

    Kiwis:
    – love simple suggestions that sound like they’ll fix complex problems
    – love these suggestions even more if they involve dealing to people deemed unworthy, while leaving their own lifestyles and aspirations intact
    – really love it if this package is delivered in a commonsensical way.
    Heaven would be John Key sucking on a beer before uttering some half-plausible, but secretly vicious, gibberish.

    Collins could tick all these boxes.

  31. Pat 31
    12 February 2019 at 6:43 pm

    should NZ fear Judith?…only if she becomes PM…..a most unlikely event

  32. Muttonbird 32
    12 February 2019 at 7:18 pm

    Judith says:

    she doesn’t rule out anything.

    I beg to differ. She ruled out honesty and integrity very early on in her career.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/02/revealed-national-voters-prefer-judith-collins-to-simon-bridges.html

    • cleangreen 32.1
      12 February 2019 at 7:57 pm

      True that is Muttonbird. 100%

      “She (Judith) ruled out honesty and integrity very early on in her career”.

  33. David Mac 33
    12 February 2019 at 7:53 pm

    Are New Zealanders more likely to vote for a woman that would like nothing more than to leave a legacy of a more encompassing and loving nation or someone known as ‘Crusher’.

    I still believe in us.

    • cleangreen 33.1
      12 February 2019 at 7:59 pm

      Well said David.
      National are short on good loving souls who want to leave NZ as a loving Nation.

      • David Mac 33.1.1
        12 February 2019 at 8:27 pm

        Thanks cleangreen. Yep, I’ll take my ol man being able to turn his heater on whenever he wishes over 4 lanes to Puhoi any day.

  34. millsy 34
    12 February 2019 at 8:50 pm

    Lance O Sullivan seems to be churning over and over in my mind for National,

    • David Mac 34.1
      12 February 2019 at 8:59 pm

      He’d be a fine score for any party. That’s because before politics, he is genuinely concerned for people.

      I’ve never seen or heard anyone slagging him…oh some anti -vaxxers when he made a stand in the Kaitaia Te Ahu cinema.

    • David Mac 34.2
      12 February 2019 at 9:25 pm

      Ha, you;ve got me stewing over it too millsy. I think Dr Lance has the potential to lead National to the promised land but I can’t see him selling his soul to the devil to do so.

      He was romancing with the Maori Party but I think he has much broader appeal.

      New Zealander of the Year is a pretty good way to kick any CV off.

  35. David Mac 35
    12 February 2019 at 8:56 pm

    I think Judith is better suited to being the CEO of NZ prisons. Pay her 10 million a year provided she meets performance targets. Performance = departing prisoners don’t come back. Give her a budget to make it happen. The crim we turn around saves us millions.

    Why aren’t we pouring tilt slab concrete state housing in prison yards? Raw concrete, cedar trim, raw aluminium joinery…styling.

    • Andre 35.1
      12 February 2019 at 9:30 pm

      Tilt slab state housing? All those carbon emissions from concrete production!

      Put JuDarth in charge of the prisons and she’ll have them breaking rocks to fit them together precisely like the Incas used to do. Build the houses that way.

    • Muttonbird 35.2
      12 February 2019 at 9:34 pm

      It really annoys regular low income family private tenants who are trying to do the right thing and living in poor quality decades old housing which costs a fortune when people who can’t or won’t put in the same effort get put into tilt slab and cedar housing with aluminium joinery without lifting a finger.

      • David Mac 35.2.1
        12 February 2019 at 9:47 pm

        Those working battlers renting older housing in the private sector are generally leading higher quality lives than those that qualify for state housing. Those renters aren’t generally confronted with ‘Right, we’ve got $42 for this week’s food’. I hear you Muttonbird but to make it to the top of the state house waiting list…those people are doing it way tougher than me and probably you.

        Solid concrete housing might last as long as the state houses Savage built.

  36. JustMe 36
    13 February 2019 at 6:51 pm

    Events of the past when there was a National government and they(National)would constantly resort to denial, rejection, refusal and eventually blaming everyone else but themselves indicates to me that we probably shouldn’t trust a single word Judith Collins says.

    Mainly because whilst she may deny something it is highly likely she is considering her next step up the National Party ladder.

    All in all there are not many, if at all, honest National politicians. They are all out for what they can get out of something for themselves at every opportunity.

    As National seem to have lost complete touch with reality especially with their current idiot of a leader I think whomever is waiting in line will have a huge mess to clean up within the NZ National Party.

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  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    2 days ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    4 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    5 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
    State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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