Sonya Rockhouse: This isn’t just about our families. It’s about all of us

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1. Muttonbird 1

   15 November 2016 at 8:51 am

   If the Government seals that mine, they seal more than just our families’ hopes with it.

   Powerful stuff.

   Key’s on the wrong side of this one and he knows it.
2. Nick 2

   15 November 2016 at 9:05 am

   Key is on the wrong side of most things….. And will continue to be, because his lack of empathy, narrow vision, gutless actions and selfish greed is who he is……. Kia kaha Sonya.
   • Draco T Bastard 2.1

     15 November 2016 at 10:28 am

     +1
3. pat 3

   15 November 2016 at 9:07 am

   “I used to think that we lived in a country where people could get justice. It might take a while, but it would happen. And I used to think that if the Prime Minister made a promise about something as important about this it would be kept. Now I don’t.”

   and you used to be right….and you still are.
   • Draco T Bastard 3.1

     15 November 2016 at 10:29 am

     Well, it will be like that once we take the governance of our country off of the psychopaths who are only in it for the money.
     • pat 3.1.1

       15 November 2016 at 12:01 pm

       she was right (in the main) in what she believed about the old NZ and she is also right in what she believes of the current NZ…her view has changed as has the ethos of the NZ leadership (so called)
4. One Anonymous Bloke 4

   15 November 2016 at 9:12 am

   The Prime Minister’s office will have handle this very carefully. At the moment the Pike River families look like battlers, not whingers. Changing that perception will take more than a couple of posts at the Sewer, especially when you need plausible deniability.
   • Muttonbird 4.1

     15 November 2016 at 9:17 am

     True. The two rats, Slater and Farrar, will try to frame the families as irresponsible in endangering the lives of those involved in a mine re-entry.
     • Rae 4.1.1

       16 November 2016 at 8:05 am

       They could just read the comments section of any article about Trump, heaps of name calling going on there from Trump supporters, I don’t suppose they’d notice if Slater and Farrar borrowed a few.
     • Michelle 4.1.2

       17 November 2016 at 12:16 pm

       we can remove the danger of re-entry by sending in a robot of some kind with a camera attached if we cant send in people that is next best and we need to try something
       • McFlock 4.1.2.1

         17 November 2016 at 12:26 pm

         Didn’t they lose one initially?

         ISTR they sent an IED robot in and it drowned under a water source. And then of course there’s the issue of the terrain in general, and I think someone or a robot got as far as a major rockfall that blocked the tunnel.

         Basically, it’s a job that takes people. It can probably be done safely, I suspect the barrier is how much that safety is going to cost.
5. save nz 5

   15 November 2016 at 10:00 am

   Thank you for such a powerful post. I particularly agree with

   “One of the things I’ve been thinking about is why so many people are supporting us to get our boys out of that awful hole. What I’ve decided is that it’s because many, many New Zealanders still want to live in a country where when terrible things like the Pike River explosion happen, someone is held to account, justice is delivered, and people are supported. That the government keeps faith with them.”

   Pike River for me is that example of something you could never think could happen in our country, it’s an example of neoliberalism at work, post truth politics and the inevitable outcome of injustice. Years and many processes later, the victims are still having to fight for just a glimmer of something, like being able to have a proper burial for their loved ones.

   Even that is denied to them.
   • SomeName 5.1

     18 November 2016 at 10:36 am

     Remember Save NZ our government was passing legislation and making big political changes while we were all grieving and praying for our men to walk out of that mine when the second explosion came we were all devastated and hurt. We saw other miners walk out safely ( overseas) and we really though so would ours.
6. The PInk Postman 6

   15 November 2016 at 11:58 am

   I wonder why the Key government is so keen to close he mine.
   What are they afraid off and what do they know that has to be kept under wraps.
   • Draco T Bastard 6.1

     15 November 2016 at 12:48 pm

     That’s been a big question of mine for some time. What’s in the mine that they want to keep hidden?
     • WILD KATIPO 6.1.1

       15 November 2016 at 2:31 pm

       Safety standards, .. you know,.. little issues regarding constant unsafe methane levels reported by workers and known about by management , an extractor system that constantly was breaking down , one way access only , and lack of unionised mines safety inspectors on a national level.

       But fear not, … the govt has tightened regulations regarding the unsafe industry of worm farming.

       Neo liberalism?

       Yes,…. all those foreign investors Bill ‘ Double Dipper ‘ English is so proud of attracting might have something to do with it , – as would certain bonuses that were paid to keep workers silent on the health issues and unsafe practices…

       Also… a little point about carbon monoxide / methane poisoning,… pathologists and coroners can only tell if that was the cause of death IF there remains any flesh,… it cannot be ascertained by bone samples only. Therefore ,… if certain were to be found earlier on that had died from that cause,and not the fire … it would have pointed to survival of the initial blasts.

       And that would have put the whole official line about ‘ too unsafe to enter’ at the beginning in jeopardy.

       Which would have caused no end of litigation issues for the govt and management. And pointed to NZ ‘s unsafe working environment, and discouraged more ‘ foreign investment’ if it were to be seen those company’s could be prosecuted if anything went wrong – and with our govt not supporting them.

       And so,… the bottom line is this : that the longer those bodies stay in that mine for those concerned who enabled the conditions for that disaster to occur , … the better.

       Here’s one from the Rolling Stones which summarizes these types of people ; those that would deny justice to those without the power to challenge, those that would treat workers as expendable serfs and place their profit margins over the mere health and safety of a worker.

       Enjoy.

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tq_rXNaSMk
7. Rae 7

   16 November 2016 at 8:09 am

   Suggestion
   Even you have nothing to add to this but are in support of the Pike River families, how about you just post here “I’m with the Pike River families”.
   I hope I can check back later and see many many people adding their voice.
   I’ve made my bottom line reason fairly pragmatic. I say it is a forensic site and should not be permanently sealed, thus making it impossible at some future date, to do a proper investigation. And of course if it is safe to examine, it would be safe to retrieve the dead.
   I can see no definitive reason to permanently seal
8. Marple 8

   17 November 2016 at 10:32 am

   Sorry if this has been already mentioned – I’d like to donate to this particular protest so they keep going until some action is taken. Does anybody know if there is a fund I can donate to?
9. Michelle 9

   17 November 2016 at 12:02 pm

   Yes poor buggars they were promised by John key he would do everything he could to get them out and once again he hasn’t delivered on his promise. He has given these people false hope, shame on him.
   We should have one last look before we seal that mine permanently. The government and the power company don’t want anyone to go in that mine, why is that, they say it is too dangerous how do they know this they are not mine experts. Also I don’t believe the Pike river mine will be sealed permanently it will be sold later and mined with our men lying in there. Our government thinks people are stupid they think the interest or the people will wavier and they will forget over time. But they wont and neither would I if one of my loved ones was lying in that mine. No one has been held responsible this is not good enough 28 of our men lying in the mine they worked in and who got of killing these men.
10. Eve 10

    17 November 2016 at 12:56 pm

    I’m with the Pike River Families
    Shame on John Key
11. Eve 11

    17 November 2016 at 1:02 pm

    “I’m with the Pike River Families”
    Shame on John Key
    • SomeName 11.1

      18 November 2016 at 10:37 am

      I’m with Eve we need to get in there and look for our men now

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