Abbott laughingstock for saying Aussie should copy Key

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1. mike 1

   21 February 2010 at 9:17 pm

   I can see you are very bitter about the latset poll on TV1 Marty. It must be bloody frustrating for you guys – crying wolf every other day that ‘Labours message is getting through..” “honeymoons over…”etc etc only to have the NZ public repeatedly proving you very, very wrong.
   • Marty G 1.1

     21 February 2010 at 9:49 pm

     stop trolling. you want to talk about a different subject, use the open mike
   • sk 1.2

     21 February 2010 at 10:54 pm

     Sure, the polls allow a lot of smugness. But the only stats that matter this far out from the election are the economics one – and here Marty has been one of the few commentators pointing that out. It looks as if we are only track for 1% growth in 2010, after -2% in 2009. Credit growth is zero, the dollar is hurting exporters, and small business is in world of hurt. 1-2% growth over 2010/11 = 10% unemployment by mid-2011.

     So for NZ’s stake stop looking at the &%$* polls, and look at the economy. Was at a lunch y’day, that included nat party donors, and everyone was depressed by the lack of attention to the fact that the economy is going down the tubes, as the rest of the world recovers. Trouble Mike and Gooner, is that you guys reflect where Mr Key’s head and focus is at . . . .
     • gitmo 1.2.1

       22 February 2010 at 7:13 am

       Ummmm the rest of the world is recovering…. really ?

       Have you seen the figures coming out of the UK and USA in relation to debt and unemployment, and these were countries with monumental spend ups. NZ and Australia are different economies they are lucky to have never gone into recession and to have Western Australia as a very large open cast mine.

       That being said the Nats are doing fuck all.
       • Marty G 1.2.1.1

         22 February 2010 at 7:52 am

         UK unemployment is 0.5% higher than ours and hasn’t risen for half a year, we’ve closed that gap to nearly nothing.

         US unemployment is falling.

         The US grew 2% in the last half of last year. NZ grew 0.4%
         • sk 1.2.1.1.1

           22 February 2010 at 9:30 am

           If you take as a starting point 4Q’08, when the Nats were elected, by the end of this year (2 years into their term), Australia will have grown 5%, the US 3%, Korea (a middle income OECD economy just below us) 10% . … and NZ 2% if we are lucky.

           With the Aussie banks shrinking their NZ exposure, we face huge structural headwinds, but from all accounts John Key does not give a damn. We need to get this economy growing, and that means gettings kids into jobs, or else we will be facing a crisis in a year or two.
2. Jenny 2

   21 February 2010 at 9:24 pm

   Marty G
   “Key has seen our unemployment go higher and far from saving us money by not having a stimulus programme all he has really succeeded in doing is let the potential of tens of thousands of Kiwis go to waste.”

   Despite the Job Summit and all the rhetoric around it all the evidence is, that Marty is dead right. Key couldn’t give a damn about unemployment.

   They can tell this clear across the Tasman sea.
   • SHG 2.1

     21 February 2010 at 10:59 pm

     They can tell this clear across the Tasman sea

     No, they can’t. Because they’re not looking. And even if they did look and did see, they wouldn’t care.

     This may come as a bit of a shock, but Australia as a whole cares about what’s happening in New Zealand about as much as it cares what’s happening in, say, Tuvalu.
     • Akldnut 2.1.1

       22 February 2010 at 2:02 am

       You’re a moron if you think that – I lived there for 20 years and they hold great importance to the state of political affairs in NZ. It even gets to the stage where Liberals use our GST as scare a scare tactic during election campaig. 15% here we come.
       • SHG 2.1.1.1

         22 February 2010 at 3:35 pm

         The Liberals would use the price of tofu in Los Angeles as a scare tactic during elections if they thought it would get them votes. That doesn’t mean they give a shit about the price of tofu in Los Angeles.

         The only people in Australia who take any more than a passing interest in what’s happening in NZ are a) ex-pat Kiwis, and b) businesspeople trying to sell something in NZ.
3. B 3

   21 February 2010 at 9:36 pm

   Abbott’s plan could see NZ catch up with Australia by 2012!
   • Jenny 3.1

     22 February 2010 at 8:03 am

     That’s funny!

     (And Key won’t have to do anything, just like he is now).
4. Gooner 4

   21 February 2010 at 9:46 pm

   Mike, you missed the TV3 poll.
   • Marty G 4.1

     21 February 2010 at 9:50 pm

     gooner you stop trolling too. you want to talk about a different subject, use the open mike
5. Cnr Joe 5

   21 February 2010 at 10:22 pm

   so – new plan over trans-tasman lunch – Aus.corp will slow down for us to catch-up?
   PLan.
6. SHG 6

   21 February 2010 at 10:56 pm

   ‘And bear in mind, New Zealanders have the option of coming here,’ said Saul Eslake, an economist at the Grattan Institute in Melbourne. ‘If more New Zealanders had stayed home, their unemployment rate would probably be higher.’

   The average Kiwi in Australia is better educated and better paid than the average Australian in Australia. If all those Kiwis had stayed home, who knows? Maybe New Zealand would be in a different situation economically. Maybe the unemployment rate would be lower.
7. bobo 7

   22 February 2010 at 1:40 am

   Guyon gave Bill a patsy interview on Q+A, no mention of GST, I must admit Bill has got better at saying nothing in interviews trying not to contradict Key like he used to, then on the news I cringe seeing Key goofing around like hes a member of the B-Sharps,.. Helen had a much tougher interview from a smug Holmes criticizing her UN failure in Haiti and making the argument we need to mine conservation land to give 17 year olds jobs. Holmes at times uses logic like Ralph of the Simpsons…
8. tc 8

   22 February 2010 at 8:50 am

   Hey SHG if all the economists in the world were layed end to end they still wouldn’t reach a conclusion……bank economists always have a predictable line for example centered around exciting interest in mortgages and saying how doomed it all is….therefore we’re raising our rates to cover risk.

   Talent travels and you’d find we get paid more all over the world more than the average local as the mobile/educated travel not the welfare recipients/blue collar workers which generate the averages.

   This type of talent, especially IT, will never find the quality/scale of work in NZ…..it’s called globalisation/consolidation….the jobs just don’t exist here anymore.

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