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Failing the future

Written By: - Date published: 9:41 am, December 20th, 2009 - 98 comments
Categories: climate change, Environment, leadership - Tags: ,

So Copenhagen has ended in failure. I’m not surprised, but I am disappointed. As The Guardian reports:

Low targets, goals dropped: Copenhagen ends in failure
Deal thrashed out at talks condemned as climate change scepticism in action

The UN climate summit reached a weak outline of a global agreement in Copenhagen tonight, falling far short of what Britain and many poor countries were seeking and leaving months of tough negotiations to come.

After eight draft texts and all-day talks between 115 world leaders, it was left to Barack Obama and Wen Jiabao, the Chinese premier, to broker a political agreement. The so-called Copenhagen accord “recognises” the scientific case for keeping temperature rises to no more than 2C but does not contain commitments to emissions reductions to achieve that goal.

American officials spun the deal as a “meaningful agreement”, but even Obama said: “This progress is not enough.”

And in their editorial:

Copenhagen climate conference: The grim meaning of ‘meaningful’

Like businessmen who insist a deal is legit, politicians protesting they have done something “meaningful” arouse suspicions that the opposite is in fact true. And “meaningful” was about the best word the spin doctors could muster in respect of the agreement of sorts that was brokered in Copenhagen late last night.

The climate change summit had three big tickets on its agenda: emissions, financial assistance and the process going ahead. And on each of these counts the accord which was effectively hammered out not by the whole conference, but rather by the US, India, China and South Africa fell woefully short.

Let’s be clear what this means. The world is going to warm dangerously. There is no chance of holding warming to the 2 degree range. Even in the best case, where all the “voluntary” commitments of Copenhagen are met (hah!), warming will be at least 3 degrees:

A document leaked from the UN, says the world will warm by about three degrees this century if the greenhouse gas cuts proposed in Copenhagen are carried out – exposing the huge gap between the rhetoric of world leaders at the conference and climate science.

Scientists say the three degree rise would probably have severe consequences on human development for centuries, and may well trigger “tipping points” that cause uncontrollable climate change.

Couched in the bureaucratic language of the UN, this is a stark warning that carbon emissions cuts are on the wrong track. … The estimated impacts of a three degree temperature rise includes half of the world’s animal species facing extinction and half a billion people threatened with starvation.

That’s the best case. If feedback mechanisms already under way keep speeding up, it’s going to be a lot worse than that.

The so-called leaders at Copenhagen have failed us, and failed the future. New Zealand was among the intransigent “developed” nations that spouted empty words but refused to commit to real change. We bear our share of shame for this failure.

98 comments on “Failing the future”

  1. Our leaders have failed us. Even our own John Key’s visit to Copenhagen has resulted in failure. The world is gradually but inevitably going to become more and more stuffed.

    Now for the inevitable wingnut response. A couple of things for them to explain.

    If climate change is not happening then why is the North and South poles melting?

    For the North Pole have a look look here.

    To quote:

    “The ice in the north pole has shrunk for the fourth year in a row, to “lowest extent of ice cover for more than a century.”

    And for the South pole you should look at this doozy.

    Of course people like Monckton (shouldn’t that be “Mockton”?) will allege it is because of moon beams or sun sports or it is doctored or there is a leaked email that proves that pretty all well scientists are liars or are corrupt ….

    • gitmo 1.1

      Your bombast on climate change is about as useful as the shit you spout when you accuse anyone who takes issue with the repeal of Section 59 of being pro child beating.

      You really are a complete hand wringing retard.

      • prism 1.1.1

        How offensive gitmo. When there are serious concerns to discuss it would be helpful if the children go outside to play and don’t interrupt.

        • gitmo 1.1.1.1

          I not sure what’s more amusing that you’re offended by a pseudonyms comment on a blog or that you believe that there’s much serious discussion out side of partisan circle wanking that goes on at this blog…… I can only suggest you fuck off jerk wad.

          [Gitmo - you're offensive and you add nothing of value to discussion. Stop insulting people like this or you'll go in to moderation -- r0b]

          • logie97 1.1.1.1.1

            I mentioned on “Trial needed for national standards” that trolls like Ellis and his kind are a waste of space and make reading blogs tiresome. My suggestion was that they be banned.

            Here we are just one discussion comment into this topic and some fool like Gitmo has added nothing to the debate but to take it off topic.

            If I want to read his type of comment I can visit Farrar’s Kiwiblog.

            to the Standard moderators, I am increasingly hearing of frustration of people who visit this blog and saying they don’t bother anymore. The numbers game of “viewings” can be distorted by the trolls who comment here.

            How ironic that the spam word today is “inevitably”

      • Galeandra 1.1.2

        As per normal, response = gitmo. QED

    • George.com 1.2

      Shouldn’t it be Lord Bunkum ?

  2. itsuptous 2

    Well- it is up to us now. It was always going to end up as a grass roots movement because change generally comes from the bottom up and politics tends to respond late.

    We need to change our behaviour as consumers. We could force change on the world and the status quo. Personally I now boycott products made in China and the USA . Actually I have pretty much given up shopping altogether. There is very little I really need and things can often be fixed if they break. I buy as much locally produced food as I can. If enough of us take action we can make a difference.

    • r0b 2.1

      Well spoken. Will try to put something together about resources for personal / local action later on. Suggestions welcome from all…

      • bill 2.1.1

        So Copenhagen was a talk fest. No surprises then.

        Here’s the million dollar question.

        Empirical observations/evidence tell us that climate change is not a threat; it’s a reality.

        Empirical observation/evidence tells us that the representative democratic model has failed on an issue that will broker no shortcoming or failure.

        What say the liberals in regards the next step? More talks? More meetings? Politely sit back and die?

        Oh, hang on, I get it! Some liberals are of the persuasion that we can consume our way out of this!

        Hmm. Reality check. If I was dead I would be buying precisely nothing. And the impact I would be having would be precisely zero. Climate change would continue unabated.

        We cannot stop the climate from breaking down by buying stuff or not buying stuff. The jabbering apes who flapped into Copenhagen would have us believe otherwise. They would have us believe that consumer power is a real power that will afford positive purchase on climate catastrophe.

        Believe that and you leave them free to jabber and their masters to cash in as we all take a ride to hell in a wheelbarrow.

        Seems to me that there is a door opening wide and ushering in a new type of denialist. A denialist who refuses to acknowledge the failure of our institutions; a denialist who will defend the political status quo and insist on ‘business as usual’ in the same vein as CCD insist on ‘business as usual’ in the productive sphere.

        Odd bed fellows. But bed fellows nevertheless.

        • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1

          Sometimes, I think that the only way that we’re going to bring about the changes needed are to wait until after the catastrophe. Not an ideal solution but one that’s going to backed up by the hard facts of the catastrophe that the delusional CCDs and RWNJs can’t refute any more by saying that it’s “just a theory”.

          Seems to me that there is a door opening wide and ushering in a new type of denialist. A denialist who refuses to acknowledge the failure of our institutions; a denialist who will defend the political status quo and insist on ‘business as usual’ in the same vein as CCD insist on ‘business as usual’ in the productive sphere.

          People are used to the present system and are comfortable within it. Moving outside of it scares the bejeezus out of them and the only way of moving them is some sort of event that shows that the present system doesn’t work. It’s unfortunate really.

  3. r0b 3

    A measure of the anger at this outcome:

    Lumumba Di-Aping, the Sudanese chair of the G77 group of 130 poor countries, compared the proposed deal to the Holocaust.

    “[This] is asking Africa to sign a suicide pact, an incineration pact in order to maintain the economic dependence of a few countries. It’s a solution based on values that funnelled six million people in Europe into furnaces.”

    Di-Aping’s comments triggered immediate protests and calls to withdraw his remarks. Sweden called them “absolutely despicable” and Ed Miliband condemned what he called the “disgusting comparison” which he said “should offend people across this conference whatever background they come from”.

    • gitmo 3.1

      Was this the same chap who’s solution to climate change is for ‘developed” countries to just give a whole heap of cash to ‘undeveloped” countries ……………. like that’s worked a treat in Africa over the years.

      • gitmo 3.1.1

        Who’s…… I is retard !

        • Zorr 3.1.1.1

          Sadly I have to agree with Gitmo here.

          I have no idea who this person is and I feel that his anger is justified but the comparison to the Holocaust automatically makes anything else he might have said irrelevant due to it. Godwins Law strikes again. Honestly, people like this need to come up with some better comparisons because Hitler wasn’t the only mass murdering psychopath to rule a country in the past 100 years. Just look at Pol Pot.

          • Macro 3.1.1.1.1

            What gitmo said is just pure crap! Any aid that has been given to African Nations over the past 20 or so years has been given with such stringent conditions by the World Bank that it is virtually useless. And the insistence on adopting pure monetary policy by these officials has been one of the prime causes behind the failure of so many African states. Whereas Europe and North America blithely subsidize their farmers to continue to produce food uneconomically, African Nations must adopt “pure market” policies. The Result? African Nations are unable to encourage their farmers to adopt modern farming methods and their produce is undercut by foreign subsidized food. So whereas money has gone to giving food to the hungry of Africa very little money has gone to helping these people to develop farming and agricultural practices to help themselves. eg $500m in food aid vs $5m in development aid.
            A further result is that now these Nations are right in the gun as far as changes in Climate are concerned. They have already been shafted by the “developed” nations and are justifiably angry because they are about to be shafted again. All they can see in the future is starvation and death.

            • Zorr 3.1.1.1.1.1

              What Gitmo said is crap. All I was saying is that the sad fact is that this individual chose to relate what was happening to the furnaces of the Holocaust.

              The way Western nations have treated the African nations is truly disgusting and I agree with that to. Just this guy put his foot in it for so many people by that one single silly analogy. By using it he has essentially voided his own speech… x_x

              • Macro

                To be dealt a hand of starvation and death by the developed nations is pretty much holocaust territory in my opinion. OK no gas chambers – but the same outcome – millions will die.

                captcha “hangs”

              • Bill

                Maybe he was referring to the moral vacillation; the selfish ‘pragmatisim’?

                Nobody gave a flying fuck about the gypsies and the gays or the cripples and brain damaged and the jews and the communists or anarchists until after the war was over.

                All that manpower tied away from the front line?

                Likewise nobody gives a fuck about the primary recipients of climate collapse.

    • Gosman 3.2

      We should listen to this man because Sudan knows an awful lot about genocide. Just ask the people in Soth Sudan and Dafur.

      What a pathetic joke Lumumba Di-Aping’s statement is.

  4. Draco T Bastard 4

    I’m not surprised – the politics was always going to favour the ruling elite*/business class. It would never do what was needed to save the worlds ecology as doing so would decrease profits.

    * Politicians aren’t the ruling elite – they’re the ruling elite’s servants.

  5. singularian 5

    You guys are right about a grass roots movement to force change. Unfortunately I don’t think it will be a movement in the direction you desire.

    For me personally, I have never been actively involved in politics or in any activist movement. This issue though has shaken me from my slumber and I will be actively agitating for the truth to emerge from the flat-earth propaganda you useful idiots have been regurgitating for the last ten years.

    There are tens of thousands of people like me out there. I fear your cosy little world is going to be in for a shock in the next couple of years.

    Mickey, a question – Were the Northern or Southern ice caps static prior to the industrial revolution? Can you provide any absolute proof that any retreat of ice is unprecedented or man made? Please no links to RC or any other now discredited source. ( can you see how this is going to play out boys?)

    The irony of Sweden and the UK getting huffy at being compared to Holocaust enablers is just too sweet.

    yours

    Singularian the denier (ha)

    • quenchino 5.1

      Any source quoted to support AGW would simply be re-defined by you as ‘discredited’. You are not here to listen to any argument, your question is a fake and your mind is closed.

      You are not even here to discuss AGW; at heart you know that the age of unlimted growth and expansion is over, and that as a result the easy, privileged ride you have had through life is coming to an end.

      What you are really doing is making angry , impotent little whimpers.

      • singularian 5.1.1

        quenchino – do you think, in light of the emails, that realclimate.org is a respectable source of climate science?

        You are not here to listen to any argument, your question is a fake and your mind is closed.

        Heh, I suggest you go and have a little read the archives of a site like Hot Topic or even this one and then deny that it’s not a universal condition.

        You are not even here to discuss AGW;

        This post is about the failure to reach a political accord at a political conference.

        at heart you know that the age of unlimted growth and expansion is over, and that as a result the easy, privileged ride you have had through life is coming to an end.

        You know my heart and my ride through life, I’m impressed.(you could make a fortune as an online psychic, it’s never to late to change career)

        As to impotent whimpers, we shall see.

        • quenchino 5.1.1.1

          Hah…changed your snotty tone when challenged.

          flat-earth propaganda you useful idiots have been regurgitating

          You have no useful qualifications or experience in climate science (nor do any of the ‘sources’ you read), yet you confidently declare almost everyone actually working in the field to be wrong. That is the height of arrogant hubris. Your mind is closed.

          Were the Northern or Southern ice caps static prior to the industrial revolution? Can you provide any absolute proof that any retreat of ice is unprecedented or man made?

          Of course ice caps are not static, everyone knows that. Over long periods of time the earth’s climate and sea levels has changed dramatically; therefore the premise of your fake question is wrong.

          On the other hand AGW predicts rising temperatures and shrinking ice caps. These are exactly what is being observed. Therefore the onus is on the denier camp to prove that they are not being caused by human action. This you have totally failed to do.

          • singularian 5.1.1.1.1

            Hah changed your snotty tone when challenged.

            bahahahahahahahahahahaha, you’re kidding right? ching.

            The onus is on the AGW scientists to prove what they’re hypothesising and have others prove it by reproducing their results. Anything else is not science.

            (nor do any of the ‘sources’ you read)

            Fuck me, this just gets better and better.

            Now you know what I read too.

            Classic.

            predicts

            That’s all you’ve got?

            • felix 5.1.1.1.1.1

              Prediction matched by observation. Read it again.

              God it’s just embarrassing.

              • singularian

                What observation felix.? The climate changes?

                They’re computer models, they didn’t, for instance, predict the present cooling did they? So was the model right or wrong?

                • lprent

                  singularian: There is no current cooling.

                  From memory the most of the average hottest years world wide have happened in the last decade.

                  Perhaps you’d like to actually read and consider evidence rather than offloading stupid incorrect sound bites.

              • felix

                This has all been explained so many times.

                Can someone ban this moron?

              • singularian

                ban them all right felix?

                I’m sure it’s been ‘explained’ but the fact is they didn’t predict cooling so either the models were wrong or the data is wrong, which is it?

            • quenchino 5.1.1.1.1.2

              Now you know what I read too.

              It’s obvious, you just barf up lines from disinformation central.

              You know no actual science. You have no ability to determine whether what you are reading is right or wrong. You are incapable of gathering coherent evidence, you can form no rational arguments, and proofs are fully beyond you. If evidence is produced contrary to what you believe, you smear it’s credibilty because that is all you are capable of. If you are shown to be wrong, you ignore it. Nothing will change your wrong thinking because you have not the tools to do so.

              The onus is on the AGW scientists to prove what they’re hypothesising and have others prove it by reproducing their results.

              Thay have repeatedly, but you will never accept this because apriori you reject all evidence as ‘discredited’. You never answer a straight question with an honest answer. It is pointless to discuss anything with you because you are not interested in discussion, learning or debate even. Your only purpose is to spread confusion and doubt.

              You lie and lie repeatedly. And you know that are doing so. I am not going to waste politness on a contemptible fool.

              • singularian

                Hahahahaha, what a cock.

                There’s a revolution coming quenchio, I, for one, can’t wait to slam my jackboot on your neck and squash you into the mud of history.

                You and felix and Lynn show here exactly why you’re going to lose. Arrogant bullying losers.

                The tides turned boys. Get used to it. That’s no lie.

                [Were you trying to see how far you could go before getting moderated? Well you just found out. Adding you to the moderation list (huh - Lynn beat me to it)-- r0b]

                • lprent

                  singularian: Ummm, idiotic taunting by a dumbass too incapable to hold their end up in the debate.

                  • singularian

                    You still find the need to moderate me Lynn. Why don’t you leave my ‘dumbarse’ comments up so everyone can see how smart you are?

                    Unless the truth is too much???????

              • quenchino

                I, for one, can’t wait to slam my jackboot on your neck and squash you into the mud of history.

                As predicted… angry, impotent whimpering.

                Arrogant bullying losers.

                This immediately after making threats yourself? It was you who came in all swaggering bombast making febrile claims that all of the accepted climate science was ‘flat-earth propaganda’ and that those of us who understand it are nothing but ‘useful idiots’. And then when you are called on your stupidity you start whimpering about being ‘bullied’…. how childishly pathetic. Go away and grow some.

                I’m no longer going to indulge ignorance. There is no excuse for it and no reason to give it a platform. If you are just going to repeat sub-cretinous drivel from denier sites you will be treated as a trolling crank.

                If you want to learn something the net is full of superb resources; one of the best is Tamino at Open Mind. He is a real mathematician, and his explanations of statistical technique and how it applies to climate science are highly readable. But you have to put some time into it; a quick skim read is pointless, I’ve had to put in days and days of time to get a grasp of some of his material… but it is absolutely worth it.

                Come back when you have done some reading, and have some honest and real questions. Until then don’t expect a polite reception.

            • lprent 5.1.1.1.1.3

              singularian: I suspect that you wouldn’t understand evidence until it is lapping over your feet. You certainly don’t appear to have the intelligence to understand the science.

              • singularian

                Yeah, na, you’re right Lynn – I’m just a dumb shit, whilst you and your fellow travelers are the pinnacle of intelligence.

                Unfortunately for you Lynn there are millions like me around the world and there will be hundreds of millions more in the coming months. The Mob is going to rule Lynn and if you know anything about history then you’ll know what that means.

                Good Luck.

                • lprent

                  singularian: When looking at the state of your intelligence, we can only go by the evidence of your comments here.

                  If they appear to have no idea of the issues, show a shallow understanding of the science, refuse to engage on anything but a superficial level, and largely consist of playground taunting – then the evidence is that you are quite dumb.

                  I’m sure that you will be considered in the eventual political decisions. However your weighting per individual will probably be considerably less than someone who is articulate and shows some understanding of the issues.

                  Politicians tend to avoid mob rule. It moves to the messy too fast for them to control.

              • felix

                Not such a singularian after all, eh?

              • Pascal's bookie

                Not such a singularian after all, eh?

                I guess he means it in the ‘singularity’ sense

                Basically fancies himself as the vanguard of the borg proletariat.

              • singularian

                Felix and Pascal – maybe you should study a little more history.

                You’re just looking plain ignorant from where I sit.

                Lynn – moderation now? Haha echo chamber?

                [lprent: it was evident that you weren't interested in discussion, and more interested in trolling. I put you in moderation to see if you could write some comments that had content and didn't look like flame starters. So far that hasn't happened. Your last two comments have zero information content as have all of your comments this morning. Eventually I'll get tired of noting on them and releasing them. ]

              • singularian

                Yeah whatever sadsack.

                You realise what a complete dickhead you sound like sometimes, right?

                I’ve got better places to be. Enjoy your echo chamber.

                Merry Christian festival.

    • Singularian

      “Were the Northern or Southern ice caps static prior to the industrial revolution? Can you provide any absolute proof that any retreat of ice is unprecedented or man made? Please no links to RC or any other now discredited source. ( can you see how this is going to play out boys?)”

      I do not know. I know that if I am crossing the road and a big truck hurtles towards me and there is the possibility it will strike me then I get out of the way. I do not wait for conclusive proof that it will hit me before I do anything.

      Besides you have it wrong. You guys should prove conclusively that climate change is not happening before we engage in the luxury of inaction.

      • singularian 5.2.1

        Climate change is always happening Mickey.

        So really it is up to ‘you guys’ to prove a definitive link to man made Co2 rises and climate change. That hasn’t happened yet.

        To take your big truck analogy – It’s a misty morning Mickey, the future fog has rolled in and you have no idea whether it’s a big truck hurtling towards you or a 50cc step-thru reverberating off the hills.

        How about glaciers Mickey, do you know anything about glaciers? Were they static prior to the industrial revolution?

      • Occasional 5.2.2

        Mickey, if a truck hurtles at you you get out of the way. Yes. You don’t stop, dig into your pockets for a fiver and throw it at the truck hoping it will make a blind bit of difference.

        Climate change is real, but your hand-wringing assumes humans are the main cause and therefore that we can do something about it. If we aren’t the main cause, no amount of fivers is going to stop it.

        Best course of action remains Plan A; Get out of the way and adapt, man.

        • prism 5.2.2.1

          There have been quite a few tv and films dealing with this subject along the adaptive, apocryphal lines you recommend. A good one was Survivor on Brit TV last century.

  6. Trying to get an international accord through the UNFCCC process was always going to be difficult — you try getting 192 countries to agree on anything, with Saudi Arabia using the CRU emails to demagogue and deny the science. I expected more from the media, both left and right, but I guess it’s typical of them to focus on the bad, since that’s just the way the climate change news narrative rocks. A doomsday metaphor is deeply entrenched in both the news about climate change and the news about climate change negotiations.

    However, there is good news out of Copenhagen: the $100 billion fund to help developing nations adjust to climate change and mitigate their carbon emissions; the first step towards an international network to collaborate on research into lowering agriculture emissions (credit where credit is due, Grosser — not my favourite person — appears to have led well on this); a breakthrough with China, which is now committing to opening the books on its emissions; and finally — and importantly — a move away from decisions requiring buy-in from every nation towards a tighter leadership role for big emitters.

  7. Nothing is the right answer. Obama must have been dis mayed upon his arrival to JFK…………….. deep snow.
    The world is not warming at all unless you use corrupted GISS & CRU data.

    [lprent: You'd better lookup the difference between 'climate' and 'weather'. They are quite different concepts.

    In case the discussion of the last few years has escaped your attention, average global warming and the extra energy in the climate systems will cause more extreme weather as the climate changes. The resulting climate change will mean colder weather in some areas, as well as warmer weather in others. That is why it is called climate change and the causation is global warming.

    We all know you crave attention. But perhaps you shouldn't display your ignorance so much in public. ]

  8. itsuptous 8

    I find it a total mystery why people would defend to the death literally their right to buy cheap junk from China. Is this really how people measure their quality of life? They would have no quality of life if they can’t consume, consume, consume? I find this very sad.

    I think people were happier thirty years ago. At the malls now I see many very overweight, miserable looking people. The culture people so angrily defend doesn’t look to be doing many people much good.
    Perhaps the reason so many people are overweight now is not all down to the junk food culture (though that is pretty harmful) but also depression. People comfort eat because the way we live lacks any sort of meaning or purpose.

    There is no sense of community any more. There is no value in trying to be a good person. The media fires the message at us 24 hours a day that the only thing that gives a person value now is money and possessions. I have had enough of it all. I very rarely turn on the TV anymore. All it is a medium for big business to make us conform to their ideals of what the world should be.

    • bill 8.1

      1 in 4 on anti-depressants. 1 in x self medicating on alcohol. 1 in y self medicating on dak. 1 in z self medicating on whatever pharmacuetical.

      1 in however many filling up personal voids with ambition; with ideas of personal power; with consumables; with desperate faiths, obsessions and perversions.

      What you mean people were happier x number of years ago?

      We got happiness in bottles and packets and shopping malls. We got it in liquid form and powder and capsules. We can snort it, swallow it or inject it and you want that we reject it?

      miseryguts.

      • gitmo 8.1.1

        Yes people were far happier without all the benefits that the modern age has delivered…. well at least those those who didn’t die early, in childbirth, malnourished ……. oh wait a minute.

        • Ben 8.1.1.1

          Wow, accrediting all that’s good in the world to the “modern age” requires a really large effort to simplify things.. I don’t even want to spenmd the time of constructing a counter-argument…

          However on Bill’s comment, I see the same thing happening, cross-borders, wherever wild-west capitalism really penetrates. Same with my home country (Hungary), where anti-depressants were unknown 10 years ago, same country that now has similar levels as the UK. But I can’t find any accurate data on NZ levels. Are there any studies, or census data on this? Cheers

    • prism 8.2

      itsuptous
      Your points remind me of thoughts I’ve had. People in malls shopping for leisure etc and women buying clothes. They are big buyers of clothes, and can have their attitudes sampled by looking at the awful gossip magazines preying on and glorifying celebrities at the same time. A waste of paper with possibly not any article that is useful for a healthy, happy human. (Men’s magazines also exist of this type).
      The clothes shops cater for women’s obsession with looking smart and looking like someone else! Getting people to be proud of themselves, not worry about small marks on clothes, and not have to have everything perfectly ironed would be a significant green move. People also might learn to mend seam tears, loose threads etc.
      If clothes were not thrown out with abandon, a huge waste of product, worktime and energy would be saved. Op shops get much clothing that’s slightly spoiled but still attractive and wearable. They also receive the cast-offs of the consumer who doesn’t wash or care for clothes preferring to dump often nearly new clothes but in a stained and unsaleable state, sometimes not even clean enough for rags. The waste dumped of useless clothing amounts to many tonnes.

      • itsuptous 8.2.1

        A few years ago, what was in fashion for females at the start of the season was still in fashion at the end of the season. The fashion outlets that target teenage girls (I am the parent of two teenage girls) now change the fashions every few weeks. I have watched my daughters buy clothing that is then out of fashion 6 weeks later and cannnot be worn!!
        Perfectly good, serviceable clothing that will be thrown out because of our society/economy depends on people constantly consuming and disposing of goods and one of the main ways this is achieved is by constantly changing “the fashion”.

        This is not in any way sustainable. To change the world we as consumers have to stand up and say no more of this sort of manipulation.

        • prism 8.2.1.1

          The pressure on parents from youngsters who feel peer pressure to wear the ‘right’ the ‘in’ clothes! To hold out against it requires what technique? Perhaps NigeI Latta has some wise words. He seems to be sensible and pragmatic. I have heard of parents of a group of teenagers getting together and agreeing on ground rules so they can’t be leveraged by the well-known – But A’s parents let A have that, or Everyone has one. But parents themselves may encourage this with their own buying habits.

          • Zorr 8.2.1.1.1

            The biggest problem prism isn’t that we necessarily need to work with each other to stop our children controlling us but to actually communicate with them in a real world sense and have the conversations that lead to real decision making. Currently I am looking forward to a future where I am raising two sons and I fully hope that by the time they are hitting their teens that we will be able to have constructive conversations that result in everyone getting a little of what they want. Too often we rely on hard and fast “rules” to govern our childrens lives when what is required of them once they leave home is that they need to be able to make decisions that are correct for themselves given the situation. By forcing our children to do whatever we think is right we do 2 things, force them to accept our rules and remove their ability to set their own.

            By expecting blind obendience to our opinions we teach them to not engage critical thinking so that when they are with their peer group they are doing exactly what we have taught them. Listening to the opinion of someone else and not engaging critical thinking.

          • itsuptous 8.2.1.1.2

            My daughters are highly academic girls who don’t fit in well. I’m afraid that at certain ages having a few sets of fashionable clothes is pretty important for girls- girls can be very hard on other girls.

            As a familly we have agreed to make Christmas different this year. We are giving donations to worthwhile causes and probably won’t give gifts. I’m relieved to be off the Christmas treadmill- I have no desire to buy for the sake of buying.

            • prism 8.2.1.1.2.1

              Christmas giving and receiving is quite nice provided we can be Relaxed about it. My in laws adopted a $2 shop limit. To think of someone else is a good thing about Christmas, and receiving something for you can give a lift, but also remembering the KISS principle.

              • I’m not so starved of humanity that I need a special day to think about someone else. Amazingly enough, I’ve even found that I can give without going down to the shop first.

  9. The greens can thank their communist friends in China for the lack of real progress.

    • outofbed 9.1

      “The greens can thank their communist friends in China for the lack of real progress.”
      Do you believe the shit you write?

  10. Herodotus 10

    From reading I have found that it would cost about $10b to be able to delivery clean water to the entire world. US citizens spend $450b on Christmas alone, what is the cost of the US/UN war efforts in say the last year?. If we cannot delivery clean water to the world for what is really petty cash. How can we solve anything more substantial?
    MickySavage, the worlds climate is always changing, the issue is AGW an issue and if so to what extent, and by implementing the desired cuts in emmissions what was going to be the result?

  11. prism 11

    NZ Herald Adrian Macey
    On Copenhagen deliberations Key comes out with that cliche comfortable (or relaxed) we hear frequently from him “New Zealand was comfortable with the text” 19 Nov NZ Herald.

    And our climate negotiator bags the UN because countries’
    leaders couldn’t agree to stronger measures. How unreasonable, the UN is so convenient to blame. The whole procedure must have been like herding cats. The final trick I use to get my cat’s co-operation is shake the kitty bic packet. Perhaps the advantages of action to the self-interest of each of the nations there was not shouted about loudly enough.

  12. grumpy 12

    If the Polar ice cap has completely vanished in 5 years we will know Gore was right – otherwise…….

  13. pointer 13

    grumpy,

    Gore got himself muddled over that. The scientist whose research he was referring to (I forget his name) actually stated that ice cover in the Arctic would be down by 85% in 5-7 years. So Gore was wrong, but not by much — 100% or 85%, there’s not a whole lot of difference.

  14. burt 14

    The leaders at Copenhagen have not done what your so called science wanted them to do. But let me just check I understand your concern.

    The failure to set stronger emission reduction targets for 20-30 years from now will cause a complete disaster in the next decade? Is that the sum of it ?

    • Alethios 14.1

      Your question highlights your ignorance.

      You don’t have any idea of what the ‘so called’ science is telling us, yet you’re dismissing it out of hand. I could hypothesize a number of different reasons of why that might be, but instead i’m just going to label you an idiot. An idiot who has no problem dismissing an entire field of academic studies because it doesn’t fit in with your a priori world views.

      Let me check I understand you here.

      You think you’ve stumbled upon a king hit, blindingly obvious, clinching evidence that this entire ‘climate change’ business is nonsense?

      • burt 14.1.1

        No, I’m not enough of an idiot to think one piece of fabrication found in porrly reviewed climate (ah hem) science invalidates the entire research. But unlike religious followers I’m not prepared to just believe a minority of twats who are too scared to face scrutiny of their theories in robust ways.

        Can we have the findings of the IPCC fully peer reviewed and allow the voices of dissent to play their normal role in science – that’s if it is OK with the people who claim to be correct and have evidence beyond doubt.

  15. burt 15

    rOb

    The article on feedback mechanism you link to is from 2006 and it says this;

    “Our results reinforce the fact that every bit of greenhouse gas we put into the atmosphere now is committing us to higher global temperatures in the future and we are already near the highest temperatures of the past 700,000 years,’ Torn said. “At this point, mitigation of greenhouse gas emissions is absolutely critical.’

    They must have used Al Gore’s special data series that removed the inconvenient history and also hid the decline.

    • felix 15.1

      When burt says “hid the decline” he’s presumably referring to those emails he didn’t understand. This video shows how ridiculous his implication is.

      The whole series is worth a look.

    • burt 15.2

      The only thing I couldn’t understand about those emails is why people who for years have been justifying action on the basis there is a consensus and the science is settled now say of course there is dissent and naturally the majority take time to convince.

      What ever you say felix, it’s your faith and you won’t be shaken from it – that is commendable.

      • felix 15.2.1

        I’m not a religious man, burt.

        The video’s only about ten minutes and not difficult to follow. I posted the link for anyone who might have thought you were making sense but you should have a look too if you get a chance.

      • lprent 15.2.2

        Bullshit burt. I’ve been saying that there is always uncertainty in science about exactly where things wind up or exactly what is going on now. That is normal, and everyone that knows anything about the topic on the science side has been saying that.

        It is science is not faith. The touching faith of the CCDs is the only thing that says there are certainties and if there is uncertainty then everything is wrong that is a issue.

        There is no uncertainty about the effect of pumping pollutants like CO2 into the atmosphere. It will cause climate change. That is what climate scientists and earth scientists are damn certain of. The problem is that you can’t see exactly where it will end unless you have a time machine. So they conservatively document the expected effects based on what is known. Those conservative findings are the IPCC reports.

        Just because you can’t understand the difference between faith and science, doesn’t mean that the rest of us are so stupid.

  16. Doug 16

    Only in America Obama gets home to the biggest fall of Global Warming in years many dead I wonder if a treaty will fix it.

  17. pointer 17

    All the prognostications and hand-wringing about how Copenhagen has failed is a teeny tiny bit overblown. Before going in to the conference, the people taking part didn’t expect much out of it except that the harder decision making would be kicked down the road to Mexico City in 2010, but there would probably be some nonbinding statements of intent. Guess what — that’s just what happened. Check out the bar chart at Eli’s place:
    http://rabett.blogspot.com/2009/12/mid-term-test-part-i.html

    I don’t know what Jeannette Fitzsimons is on about with all her rhetoric about COP15 failure, except maybe she’s got to keep the pressure on from the left. If that’s the case, then good on her for doing so.

    The real crunch is in Mexico City, people!

  18. Ben 18

    Perhaps something more fruitful than resisting power within the capitalist system (avoiding chineese / US goods, favouring NZ produce, mending work clothes, etc..), would be to organise oursleves, as people, as citizens of a planet, to smash it, and construct something better. Capital isn’t a law of nature, or some godly force. It’s not set in stone, it’s a human construction. It can be dismantled as easy as it was constructed. But as long as we think of ourselves as isolated individuals, so powerless against a huge, imposing, organised system that all we can do is select the products we do and don’t buy… Well as long as that persists, nothing will chage.

    • prism 18.1

      Ben talking about dismantling systems being easy is an oxymoron I think. Anyway you only have to read the to and fro on blogger sites to know that with such strong emotions and prejudices driving thought, getting agreement on the best way forward with the least harm can never be an easy task.

      An example is how a new committee of a volunteer group may act. They will often change everything that was done in the past without referring to the minutes of past meetings, so they don’t understand the systems they are abandoning. They will decide policies on spurious grounds and end up demolishing the organisation and energy for it amongst members. This is an always possible scenario.

      • Ben 18.1.1

        Thank you for the correction. I myself was speaking from strong emotions (outrage), without first pausing and considering. I will retract my comment about smashing the system. I hold to the basic argument that individual efforts will not amount to anything, unless organised on a broad scale, on a consesus basis (like the World Social Forum’s main decisionmaking mechanism), and able to use a large body of analysis and research.

        So sorry about the rushing tone, I am the last to believe changing systems, or even (much needed) perceptions is easy or quick. I got a little hot-headed via the news about COP15.

        • prism 18.1.1.1

          The Copenhagen ‘decisions’ sure get everybody’s temperatures up. Global warming of a different kind.

        • Bill 18.1.1.2

          Ben and Prism…

          Recognising and rejecting Capitalism is instant.

          Building a viable alternative will take time although seeds of possible futures have already been planted in many countries and persist even in the hostile environment of (almost) all encompassing Capitalism.

          Anyway, my point is that Capitalism does not need to be dismantled, reformed or smashed. It simply needs to be abandoned.

          And that is where the nascent alternatives come in and where vision and debate about different visions comes in.

          • prism 18.1.1.2.1

            Bill what about starting a thread on some of these alternatives you are thinking of to replace capitalism. Is social credit one of them?
            I have been involved with Green Dollars which is a good idea but fuzzy round the edges in its economic analysis.
            Helping people with small loans like the Graneem? Bank and small venture trusts in NZ is good.
            Does not having capitalism mean not using money? There is a whole way of life built on making a living selling symbols and advice rather than doing anything physical which often pays very badly. How can this world dichotomy be ameliorated?

        • prism 18.1.1.3

          The World Social Forum sounds interesting. I googled it and there is a mass of stuff on it to read about.

  19. infused 19

    Good videos for you all. Part 3 & 4 are damming if true

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNXoUWrAzj4&feature=related

    • felix 19.1

      Um, do you mean Lord Monkeytune and his “cooling since 98″ bullshit, or Alex Jones and his “everyone’s trying to take over the world except me” schtick?

  20. Zorr 20

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_itPEoTvu3wg/Syo-gKFiYlI/AAAAAAAABFw/r5cxmHDAjaE/s1600-h/091207usatC.slideshow_main.prod_affiliate.91.jpg

    Sorry for the long link, but it is what I consider to be a very excellent cartoon that depicts the situation accurately. Thanks to Pharyngula.

    • felix 20.1

      Very good.

    • wtl 20.2

      And I think the cartoons says something else as well – perhaps we have to stop arguing about the science of climate change, but instead start ‘selling’ the solutions. I’m sure the general public isn’t entirely convinced about AGW – skeptics and deniers have a large enough voice to seed doubt, and no one likes to be told they are contributing to a problem that will lead to destruction of the planet, so many may choose the easy way out (“it’s all a hoax”). But instead of trying to convince people about the reality and fighting an uphill battle, maybe it’s time to start pointing out that if our society does make an effort to reduce our greenhouse emissions, we will build a better world – there will be less pollution in our cities and towns, people will be healthier, we won’t be dependent on oil from volatile regions, we will produce a how series of new jobs and so on. Who wouldn’t want that?

      We can be dismayed by some of the negative aspects of human nature, such as people only thinking in the short time and about themselves, or we can accept it and try to work with it.

    • Bill 21.1

      That the monocle wearing Gerald Warner of Craigenmaddie? Former Special Advisor to the Secretary of State for Scotland under a Tory government? Regular contributor to the Telegraph newspaper? Complete twat?

      That Gerald Warner?

  21. Gosman 23

    As predicted by many observers, the Copenhagen summit was a lot of hot air and not much in the way of substance.

    Given the fact that hardly anybody came away from the Summit smelling of roses where does this leave NZ in terms of our AGW stance?

    It will be much harder to critisise NZ’s position when noone else is making much progress.

  22. prism 24

    Boo hoo. Is this how our wonderful world will end? Quenchino and Singularian locked in futile battle, teeth clenched (the ones they haven’t knocked out) fighting the ultimate way with every weapon they possess in spitting fury over not being right or listened to when it counted and there was time to think about what could be done and do it?

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  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
    ...
    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Bad luck National
    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • “Now the work of movements begins”: government corruption, media bias, ...
    I am so tired of the dirty politics of the National government, aren’t you? I am tired of John Key and his pathetic attacks on award-winning journalists who have spent their careers fighting and digging for truth and good. The...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Moment of Truth review, smoking guns and the awful coverage by the NZ msm
      There were queues unlike any the Town Hall has seen, 1000 were turned away once it became full…     …full to the rafters. The energy and atmosphere within the room was extraordinary, and it begun…   …Glenn Greenwald...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Why Maori TV’s Te Tai Tokeraou Poll will be proved wrong
    If Hone Harawira had a dollar every time the media wrote off his chance of winning Te Tai Tokeraou, he would have more money than Kim Dotcom. Remember the by-election? Hone was 1 point ahead of Kelvin in an exact...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • September 15 RNZ interviews – and then the Moment of Truth
    . Acknowledgement: Emmerson . 15 September – Leading up to the Moment of Truth public meeting this evening, these Radio NZ interviews are worth listening to; . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Live Stream: Moment of Truth Tonight 7pm
    Live Video Stream by eCast: The Daily Blog will Live Stream the Moment of Trust public meeting from 7pm. The meeting will feature Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dotcom, Robert Amsterdam, and a very special guest…...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The proof Key lied about GCSB mass surveillance
    And we start getting to the evidence that proves Key has lied about mass surveillance. The article by Glenn Greenwald is out and it is beyond damning… Documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden show that the government worked in...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • A brief word on the Ede-Slater emails
    Every day I have rushed to read the paper to see if a breaking story on the Ede-Slater emails had broken yet. They haven’t. Day after day, where are these emails? We know Rawshark sent the emails to David Fisher...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The email that proves Key is a liar
    This is the Email proving Key knew about Kim Dotcom before he claims he did… “We had a really good meeting with the Prime Minister. He’s a fan and we’re getting what we came for. Your groundwork in New Zealand...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Henchmen
    Henchmen...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why it simply isn’t credible that Key stepped in and shut down the mass s...
    Key’s staggering admission that yes there was a year long business model by the GCSB to mass spy on all of NZ but  that he stepped in and shut it down after Cabinet had signed it off just sounds like make...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man
    Politicians like putting up straw men for the purpose of self-righteously knocking them over. Prime Minister John Key has a particular straw man he loves to punch over. He raises it whenever he’s asked about mass surveillance of New Zealanders...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Armstrong turns on Glenn Greenwald
    Where does a mediocre journalist like John Armstrong get off attacking a journalist with the credibility of Glenn Greenwald as he has in his ridiculous column today? Armstrong has the audacity to try and play the terrorism card to justify why...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – Which of John Key’s many statements on the GC...
    We already have Glenn Greenwald’s assertion on The Nation that John Key has misled New Zealanders as to whether the GCSB has engaged in mass surveillance of Kiwis. But Key has made many other statements about the GCSB’s powers and...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Election 2014: Numbers and Faces
    Democratic politics is a game of numbers and faces. How can we translate the numbers into the 120 or more faces that will be in the next Parliament? Below is my prediction of a likely result: 120 people, divided by...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Scotland the brave
    The possibility that Scotland will vote for independence this Thursday has panicked the British establishment. An unholy alliance of Tory, Labour, Liberal and corporate leaders has resorted to fear-mongering and bullying on grand scale in a last ditch effort to...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why Key’s denials sound so off and why Dotcom’s fight is all our fight
    The shrillness of Key is the issue. His denials just too forced and rehearsed. Key has gone from Hollow Man to Shallow Man with his lashing out at Pulitzer Price winning Journalist Glenn Greenwald by calling him a ‘henchman’. This...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a S...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a Su...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • As TDB predicted, Labour to use universal super fund to buy back assets and...
    Greens about to be snookered again?   As The Daily Blog has pointed out several times now, Labour will use a universal super fund to buy back NZs assets in a bid to offer Winston a legacy project… Labour plans...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • A lesson in caring for our most vulnerable
    Some of the comments on this article make me sick. Because I am so very much over people who think they are better than others because things have gone their way in life and think those who aren’t as functional...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Please vote positive
    One of the features of campaigning is the meet-the-candidates event.  As an opportunity to present policies to the voter, they aren’t the best vehicle but still serve a useful purpose.  The problem is that there are too many candidates and...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • For this who don’t vote this election
    For this who don’t vote this election...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Where does Key get off abusing a Pulitzer prize winning Journalist like Gle...
    We are seeing the Dirty Politics PM today when Key decided the best way to counter the Glenn Greenwald claims of GCSB mass surveillance was to denigrate Greenwald… Prime Minister John Key says he will prove Glenn Greenwald’s claims by the...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Teflon Man No More
    . .   On 26 August, as Nicky Hager’s expose on New Zealand’s right wing politics hit public consciousness and confirmed our worst fears, I wrote, “Dirty Politics” has achieved more than simply revealing  unwholesome machinations between National party apparatchiks,...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Dear mainstream media – regarding Key’s promise to resign if GCSB expos...
    Dear Mainstream media. How’s it all going? I would like to acknowledge the deep depression many members of the Press Gallery are going through as their boy Key looks less and less likely to win. I appreciate how a loss...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • It’s official: ACT’s Jamie Whyte is several-sandwiches-and-a-salad sho...
    .   . There aren’t very many times I agree wholeheartedly with our Dear Leader – but on this occassion I believe he spoke for those 99% of New Zealanders for whom common sense is as natural as breathing air....
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • ‘I’ll not be intimidated … by cowards’, says Fiji death threat jour...
    Fiji Sun’s Jyoti Pratibha … death threats via fake Facebook profiles. Image: Pacific Scoop THE PARIS-based media freedom advocacy organisation Reporters Sans Frontières and the Pacific Media Centre have condemned threats and intimidation against political reporters this week covering Fiji’s...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Glenn Greenwald on TV3s ‘The Nation’ – Everyone remember when Key pro...
    Glenn Greenwald has just given his first NZ interview on TV3s ‘The Nation’ and what he had to say was incredibly damaging. Glenn is here for Kim Dotcom’s Moment of Truth on Monday and what he has just had to...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • What will soft National vote do, why Colin Craig will be a focus in final w...
    In what has been the most unpredictable elections of our time, the final week promises more shocks and bombshells than World War One trench warfare. We have the media who still have the Rawshark emails that detail the Ede-Slater exchanges....
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Would a National-Conservative Party reduce rights to an abortion? Legalise ...
    With the possibility of a Conservative-National Party coalition looming, let’s consider the impact of this new hard right religious Government on social policy. We know Conservative Party candidate Edward Saafi, believes the inability to legally bash your kids is responsible for teenage prostitution, teenage pregnancy and...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • ACTs solution to crime – more guns?
    How insane are the ACT Party? Honestly? Their solution to crime is to arm every shop keeper with a sawn off shotgun??? “Criminals are well aware that shopkeepers are defenceless and are taking advantage of this in brutal robberies. What...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • John Key’s gift to teenage girls…
    Yesterday I was at the MANA Movement policy release on “Predators on Poverty” in the Otahuhu Shopping Centre. Successive Labour and National governments have left vulnerable communities on their own to face these merciless thieves who prey on the poor...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Poverty denial – Where does National get its advice from?
    National is displaying a quite inadequate understanding of their own policies and worrying inability to respond to criticism. When John Key trots out his old, tired example of how ‘work pays’ on Morning Report this week to justify leaving 260,000...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Education reformers mean well, so what’s the problem?
    The thing about education reformers is that, mostly, they mean well. Whether it’s charter schools, National Standards, Teach First, or another reform, many people involved have good intentions.  They want to improve things, try something new and innovate, they say. The thing...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • My brain hurts
    My brain hurts.  This election year has been a really long nine months.  The lies, the headlines, the spin, the policy, the chat, I am literally overloaded with information.  At times it’s been exhausting trying to keep up.  However I...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Slater loses Blomfield defamation case – has to pays costs & must dis...
    Great victory for Journalism today. The Defamation case Matt Blomfield took against Slater has jumped its first hurdle, Slater has been told he might be a ‘Journalist’, but he has no right to journalistic protection of his sources because there was no...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Seeing an Economic Vision
    It has been some time since my last post to TDB. I was fortunate to recently come back to NZ briefly for a bit of a break from my work in Pakistan. While my visit was super short, I took...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • MPI ups yacht biosecurity ante
    Yachts arriving in Northland from overseas this season will face greater biosecurity scrutiny, says the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI)....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Election Update
    John Key’s National Party now has an 88% probability of leading the next government , most probably with the support of NZ First, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. There...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Crowdfunding to Save Native Fish
    NZ Landcare Trust is offering an exciting project designed to assist native fish, as part of the launch of a new global crowdfunding category called 'The Landcare & Environment Collection.' This exciting step, aims to help raise funds and support,...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New methods needed to reach non-voters
    Non-voters are much heavier users of the internet than those who do vote, while 43 per cent of non-voters say they never read a newspaper according to research released today by the Election Data Consortium....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties sent home with report cards
    More than 2000 New Zealanders came together to run a full page ad in the Herald today asking all Parties what they will commit to do to clean up politics. The answers are in, and ActionStation has graded Parties on...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • One in 10 Kiwis want Winston Peters to Run the Country -Poll
    New Zealand First leader, Winston Peters has seen his personal popularity reach a three-year high in the final 3News/Reid Research poll ahead of Election Day....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Shut Down This Govt Not Kaiti WINZ
    "I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can" is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • New methods needed to reach non-voters
    Non-voters are much heavier users of the internet than those who do vote, while 43 per cent of non-voters say they never read a newspaper according to research released today by the Election Data Consortium....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Conservatives Break Through 5% Threshold
    Reports in today’s Dominion Post that the Conservative Party is polling at 6% in Nationals internal polling are not surprising says the Conservative Napier candidate Garth McVicar....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • IGIS: No Indiscriminate Interception of NZers’ Data Found
    “As part of my role as Inspector-General, I review whether the GCSB complies with the restrictions upon interception of New Zealanders’ communications and with the requirement to intercept communications only for authorised purposes. That review...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Conservatives Break through 5% Threshold
    Reports in today’s Dominion Post that the Conservative Party is polling at 6% in Nationals internal polling are not surprising says the Conservative Napier candidate Garth McVicar....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Hundreds of Students Turn Out for Political Debate
    With only a few days left before the general election, over 500 Victoria students packed the central Hub space on campus today to listen to a political debate on student issues organised by the Students’ Association. Victoria University of Wellington...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Ex-prisoners make most of mentoring to make most of life
    It’s not every day that an organisation triples a programme in size, but PARS Inc (formerly known as the Prisoners’ Aid and Rehabilitation Society of the Auckland District Inc) has managed to do just that with their Community Mentoring Scheme,...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Unscrupulous worker highlights why 90-days works
    Federated Farmers believes the experience of a husband and wife farming team in Taranaki underscores why the 90-days provision is so important to small businesses. “Yesterday a member called 0800 FARMING to alert us to a guy doing the rounds...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eye to Eye Uploaded
    Leading Maori broadcaster and political commentator Willie Jackson previews Eye to Eye Uploaded, a multi-platform series of interviews that he’s aiming to put in front of media radars next year....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Party Rankings against Inequality
    Revealed: which party will do the most to reduce New Zealand’s growing inequality crisis...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government
    The Maritime Union says a change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Green Party package for newborns welcomed
    16 September 2014 Media Release The New Zealand College of Midwives has welcomed a policy announced today by the Green Party which would provide a package of essential items for every newborn baby. The College is a non partisan organisation...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • ALCP Release Election Manifesto
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party has released its manifesto in the lead up to the election on Saturday....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Election Daily Update #9
    John Key’s National Party appears to have received a major boost from last night’s “Moment of Truth” event, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Despite no major changes...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eminem Publishers Sue New Zealand National Party
    Detroit-based music publishing companies sue National Party for damages for unauthorised use of song in election campaign advertising...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws
    Overwhelming Majority of Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws. Press release- Fifty Fifty Campaign, 16 September 2014 National is the only political party willing to defend the way WINZ treats separated parents who share their kids...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parents Smacking Down Prime Minister
    "John Keys failure to deliver on his promise to change the anti-smacking law is costing National votes, and helping the Conservative Party," says Colin Craig....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Video & Audio
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence was happy to host a political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invited representatives...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Greens Take Nanny State To A New Level
    Family First NZ is labelling the Green’s ‘welcome package’ for newborns policy as wasteful and misdirected. “This policy is taking ‘nanny state’ to a new level but indicates just how much the Greens want to intervene in family life,”...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • 2,100 people send message about dirty politics
    2,100 people have signed their name to a full-page open letter featuring in the New Zealand Herald this Wednesday. The letter is designed to send a message to politicians that dirty politics is an important election issue....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Are DoC manipulating Rat Numbers?
    Ban 1080 Political Party co-leader Bill Wallace says there are serious rumours DoC has changed their rat counting technique to cover up the lack of the mythical “Rat Plague” claimed by the Department in Kahurangi National Park, and also that...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Average Full time Student Is in Financial Distress
    A new survey has found that nearly half of all full time students are in significant financial distress....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Key and Cunliffe, research revealed by Ancestry.com.au
    Contrasting family histories of John Key and David Cunliffe, revealed by research from Ancestry.com.au....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Revelations a Damning Indictment of Key’s Honesty
    The Prime Minister’s honesty is now central to the election, says Internet Party Leader Laila Harré, following the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden that there is mass surveillance of New Zealand citizens by the GCSB....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Organisations Have ‘Duty of Care’ for Players says Law Firm
    Concussion injuries in amateur and professional sporting arenas are currently highly topical. Concussion potentially appears to have been implicit in the recent death of a young player in Northland....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Media Release from Closing the Gap on Health and Housing
    “Inequality is the biggest problem facing New Zealand at the present time” says Peter Malcolm National Secretary of Closing the Gap. It underlies many of our social ills, poverty, lack of trust, an economy that could do much better, and...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Expanding Whānau Ora – a bottom line for Māori Party
    Leaving the best to last, the Māori Party has launched its Whānau Ora policy today following a fun family event at Te Ore Ore Marae in Masterton last night. “When we change what happens in our homes, we change what...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Colin Craig’s Incredible Claims Continue
    Hot on the heels of a Conservative Party candidate proposing to double the price of a bottle of wine, Colin Craig has come up with an even more fantastic idea to buttress his uncosted tax policy....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • The Letter: Jamie Whyte is going to Parliament
    Friday night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts Jamie Whyte in Parliament. TVNZ rounded down the poll result (ACT was on 1.2%). With the high wasted Conservative vote, just 1.2% makes Jamie an MP. It is ACT, not NZ First that...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Why are we letting Dotcom steal our election?
    Why are we letting a convicted German fraudster and his American polemicists steal our election?...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan
    ACT has a five point plan to grow the economy by a third. To lift economic growth from the Treasury's long term forecast of just two percent to three....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Christchurch rebuild cost sharing plan must be improved
    “The agreement between the government and the Christchurch City Council about sharing costs of the rebuild is due to be revised in December, as some costs are more accurately known now than they were originally,“ says Warren Voight, Local...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ‘Key vs. Cunliffe’ Final Live NZ Election Reactor
    ohn Key and David Cunliffe go head to head for the final time on TV One on Wednesday as Election Day looms. Roy Morgan wants to know what you think about their performance as the leaders try one last time...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Chamber welcomes Business Growth Agenda priorities
    Wellington Employers’ Chamber of Commerce welcomes the National Government’s 10 highest priorities for its Business Growth Agenda as essential to continuing strong business performance and economic growth....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • #SafeSource NZ – A secure way to share the truth
    Dirty politics and a dirty environment go hand in hand. Our country’s future as a fairer, cleaner, more prosperous place is being threatened by backroom deals, corporate cronyism and a lack of transparency....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Last vid to encourage youth vote
    Here's the third and final in our series to boost the youth vote. It's called CINDER and it's a play on the popular dating app....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fee hikes restrict student choices
    A survey of 5000 students from across the tertiary sector shows that tuition fees have increased at the maximum level permitted. Fees are constraining students’ choices more than ever before. Although tuition fees are only permitted to increase...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan to grow the economy
    ACT has a five point plan to double the rate of economic growth. The Treasury long term forecast for growth is 2% a year. We can lift it to 4%....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • iPredict Daily Election Update
    National’s forecast party vote has risen to 45.3% over the last day, at the expense of Labour and the Greens, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. A National/Act/UnitedFuture/Maori...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • National’s economic strategy attack workers’ rights
    The National Party’s ‘Workplaces’ policy confirms that their economic growth strategy relies on attacks on workers rights, according to FIRST Union....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Questions Raised Over Cow Deaths
    The death of 200 cows after eating a new variety of PGG Wrightsons HT swedes [1] is a disaster for New Zealand farmers....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Final decision on Ruakura Development Plan Change
    The independent Board of Inquiry considering the Ruakura Development Plan Change has released its final report and decision. The Board has approved the plan change request but with amendments....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Confirmed – Smacking Law Needs Correction
    Family First NZ says that the ONE News Vote Compass survey showing only 23% support the anti-smacking law is no surprise, and confirms that it’s time the politicians listened to New Zealand families....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
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