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Free Market Failure

Written By: - Date published: 9:38 am, February 27th, 2010 - 56 comments
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It’s time for the National Party to issue an abject apology to the nation… for the 1992 Building Regulations that directly led to the astounding public crisis we now face.

Building and Construction Minister Maurice Williamson told the Weekend Herald the official $11 billion figure – which experts believe is half the true cost – was about what the Government spent each year on health or education.

“It’s simply ginormous. A Government who’s running very large surpluses would still struggle to find the money to help with this.

“But a Government who’s running deficits – and has a forecast track of deficits for many years out – has to just sit there with its head in its hands, saying, ‘Well, I just don’t how to do this’.”

Herald

Further down the article we find that the $11b number bandied about over the last few months was a lie; an independent PWC report commissioned by the govt put the cost at $23b, stating that 90% of homes built between 1992 and 2005 would fail badly. They determined that this affected some 89,000 homes at an average cost of $300,000. And that does not include all the commercial, industrial and public buildings that will also fail. Of course the Nats baulked at this and more or less halved the number they put out to the public at the time.

The vast majority – between 80 and 100 per cent – of homes built with monolithic claddings (seamless-looking sheets finished with paint or plaster) would fail within 15 years.

That style of building accounted for the majority of the 150,000 odd buildings erected in the 17 year period concerned… and most of them will fail, if not already, then very soon. Spending $300,000 on each to remediate/demolish and rebuild is a potential total cost in the range of $30-40b. Given that the acknowledged number attached to this crisis keeps on doubling every year or so, this projection is not unreasonable.

The govt cannot and will not be able to afford this. It will have to come out of ratepayers pockets, or the losses born directly by those ratepayers unfortunate enough to have been conned into buying one of these timebombs. $40b spread over roughly 1m urban ratepayers, over 20 years, is an average increase of $2,000 pa … on top of existing rates. So much for tax cuts.

The Minister in a rare moment of candour admits this:

If they have to face the true liability of what’s working its way through the system now, you will see rate increases in some of those areas of proportions that would make your eyes water.”

As I recall the changes to the Building Regs were controversial at the time, National was clearly warned that what they were proposing was a recipe for disaster, and that disaster has arrived with bells on. What I want is an apology from National, an admission that their incompetence created this mess.. and an open repudiation of the failed ideology that underpinned it.

56 comments on “Free Market Failure”

  1. Descendant Of Smith 1

    I’d like to see an apology from all those crap developers and builders who built the rubbish. Private enterprise at it’s worst.

    Of course some people were stupid enough to buy these homes as well.

    • RedLogix 1.1

      Of course some people were stupid enough to buy these homes as well.

      Tempting to say that, after all personally I was always aware of the issue (all the units I have built were in permanent materials and my favourite by far is Timbercrete)… but then most people don’t have my level of technical education and experience.

      Labelling them ‘stupid’ is really just ‘blaming the victim’.

      • Herodotus 1.1.1

        I am aware of good builders who also broght what has turned out to be crap developemnts in Takapuna, Orewa, Manukau. So if sound builders were buying them what could be expected from the average Joe Mugg?
        I have heard comments over the last 10+ years of boring Brick & Tiled ‘burbs at least the buildings accepted that water will get in and have a system that allows for it to also get out naturally.
        And to JD I agree yet the JH and CHH and the likes have got away with it, also CVHH for selling under spec timber for trusses, and for $250m sales they get slapped with a $1m fine. Greatto see Karma working as Tui would say NOT !!

    • DeeDub 1.2

      You really can’t blame developers for sticking to the letter of the new laws at the time, can you? Isn’t that what regulations are there to control? Or slacken control in this case?

      As for the buyers, surely they had a right to trust and expect that the government wouldn’t do anything that would allow the erosion of building standards just to make cheap get-rich-quick developments easier for shonky developers? ie. “Everyone is building ‘em this way and the government says that’s fine so………..”

      captcha: collapse

    • prism 1.3

      Smith
      “Of course some people were stupid enough to buy these homes as well.”

      Smith is a surname that implied a competent tradesperson. You are bringing the name into disrepute with your own stupid remark. Of course people had no concept that they were buying shoddy gimcrack housing and that they couldn’t trust so-called experienced builders and entrepreneurs to build to what has been an expected standard.
      They also did not comprehend that government could be so lax, irresponsible, short-sighted and ideologically driven that they would introduce laws that would encourage such shit to happen.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.4

      Of course some people were stupid enough to buy these homes as well.

      Can’t blame the buyers. As I’ve repeatedly said, the free-market requires one of either two things: Everyone to be omnipotent or to be highly regulated. The first is impossible so that leaves us with the second. The regulations are there to ensure that everybody is working with the same, and correct as known at the time, information so that people can trust what they’re buying without having to do a degree at university and a full research thesis on what they want to buy. A legislated decrease in standards is what lead to the leaky homes syndrome.

      National shouldn’t just be apologising for it, they should be paying the bill – all $40b.

  2. And like that’s going to happen.
    What still disgusts me is that the real problem has still not been addressed. We’ve had it’s the untreated timber, it’s the builder , it’s the style, it’s the councils, it’s the everyone else stupid but not the real reason. Cladding, cladding, cladding. It’s the cladding stupid.

  3. Having just arrived from the UK and bought a ’50s house for renovation and extension I couldn’t believe what my builder was telling me about untreated timber. It was so patently stupid that I said, “no way”, and made sure ever stick of timber he used was treated despite the relatively small extra cost.

    Perhaps while they are about it National will also apologise for the 1999 power industry reforms which have led to nice fat capital gains and dividends to the holders of power co. shares (disclosure: I made sure I grabbed all that I could afford at the time, thanks Max) ever escalating power prices and regular power shortages.

  4. Anthony Karinski 4

    Fat chance.

    Btw Labour should apologise for starting the whole mess back in 84. Without that, NZ wouldnt be where it is today. Saw Goff was unrepentant for the whole thing in an interview a while back claiming that even during the ravages of Douglas Labour always had the working class in mind. Tosser.

    • >>Anthony Btw Labour should apologise for starting the whole mess back in 84

      But this was the response to Muldoons admin.

    • prism 4.2

      Anthony K Can’t blame Labour for a law brought in by National who were very pleased to take over from Labour who were left by Muldoon with a collapsing economy while he refused to hand over the reins like the little dictator he was. When National got in they drove the changes further and harder.

    • Anthony Karinski 4.3

      I’m not saying National is not to blame for this particular crisis. But Labour is implicit as they got the ball rolling and prepared the ground for National to take things along further. In all honesty the same Labourites (among them Goff) would in all likelihood have implemented a similar policy had they stayed in power, as it fitted their ideological mantra.

      What gets me is that Goff can be so caught up in his own ego that he still claims he did it for the good of middle NZ. If that’s typical of the insight and humility he’s capable of he’s certainly not fit to run the country. Why not own up to his mistakes and on the back of that ‘profound’ insight stick it to JK and the nats. “I did this, this and this wrong and it stuffed up our country like this, this and this. I’ve learned from my mistakes and would do this, this and this instead of JK who is still repeating my mistakes” Instead he just wobbles along. Opposed to the super shitty, opposed to the gst hike etc. Will he do anything to change it if he ever forms government? Shifty, shifty and no definite answer. Fail.

      He could have offered an opposing outline of how he sees the new super city, how he would have structured and implemented it if Labour was the government – consultation, referendum? and used the media to drive a clear and definitive wedge between the nats and labour. “70% of aucklanders prefer labours alternative super city plan versus nats etc”. And make some god damn commitment as to what he will do to change the super city if he gets to govern. All quiet and uncertain on the left front.

  5. Stacktwo 5

    Great post, Redlogix. Another crack in National’s teflon, which will fail completely in much less than the life of a leaky building.

    But, Smith’s Descendant, I wouldn’t blame the buyers. Not everyone has studied building technology, and Mr and Mrs Average should have been entitled to trust the “experts” – they couldn’t even google their decision making as we can now.

  6. vto 6

    Treated timber? I hate the stuff. Anyone remember the formaldehyde (sp?) or whatever it was a couple decades ago in flooring? Seeping out and poisoning the inhabitants?

    Think it wont happen with the timber in the walls of your childrens bedrooms? All that heinous poison no going anywhere? The people that handle the stuff have to dress like spacemen to avoid poisoning.

    Avoid treated timber. It is a future poisoning hazard…

  7. Adrian 7

    Formaldehyde is a naturaly occuring component of timber, thats the “keroseny” smell you get in some wood, the problem with it was that monoclad hermetically sealed houses didn’t let it disperse into the atmosphere as it has done since the first tree fell over. Nothing to do with treatment, boron (ironicly) treatment is needed to stop borer eating your house down. Or you could use rimu.

  8. Bill 8

    I know!

    Why not retrofit all the leaky buildings with impermeable plastic and then the moisture won’t get in and…oh

  9. Adrian 9

    Boron( gasp, chemicals again) by the way, is a naturally occuring component of earth. If you want to avoid chemicals for Gods sake don’t go gardening or grow anything in it.

    [Arsenic is also a naturally occuring element. Feel free to consume liberally. Lay off the dumbass threadjack. RL]

    • RedLogix 9.1

      is a naturally occuring component of earth

      So is arsenic. Feel free to consume liberally.

      Lay off the dumbass threadjack.

  10. randal 10

    hey rdlgx.
    they need to apologise for everything.
    when national was in power in the nineties they buggered everything they touched as they blundered about in a fever pitch or irrationality that somehow meant money for all their mates.
    they buggered the : schools, the airforce, the police, the universities, everything.
    congratulations to the people who held off settling their leaky houses because now they can grill the perpertrators who cooked the whole thing up in the first place.

  11. r0b 11

    I was planning to do a post on this – but glad you beat me to it – yours is much better! “What I want is an apology from National, an admission that their incompetence created this mess.. and an open repudiation of the failed ideology that underpinned it.” Damn right.

  12. Herodotus 12

    There is no mess and accroding to Helen in 2002 this issue has ben overplayed and is not that grea, this was followed up in the remainder of the last govt by their action or more pertinently their lack of action. I see that some what to point the blame at Nat yet where was the motive to change anything from Lab, as according to est 1/10 up to 1/3 of all houses built within the Lab time in govt will not stand the test of time. This is a sorry state whereby yet again NZ is the loser from very poor politicians on all sides and govt agencies e.g. Branz NZ. The issue has grown so great that there is no real solution to remedy the issue for those trapped within the system.
    Where were the authorities re CHH and the timber , I would think on a risk-reward basis to con the market for $250m and incur a $1m fine just shows how govt agencies work for us !!

    • RedLogix 12.1

      There is no mess and accroding to Helen in 2002 this issue has ben overplayed

      And at the time pretty much in line with the official information available. HC would have been unwise to have strayed too far from that advice, especially in a matter in which she had no direct expertise. More broadly speaking I was dissapointed that the Labour Cabinet, Ministry Officials and the industry as a whole chose the very conservative line they did in the face of contradicting evidence … for so very long.

      • Herodotus 12.1.1

        No at the time many within the industry were extrememly aware of the issue and that it was far greater than initial reports. Many including govt would have been aware of this but did not want to acknowlege the fact just hoping above all hope. Sure building standards were changed (perhaps not for the best) but where is the comeback on Branz and the manufacturers and their claims on their product. There is a rumour that certain asuie coys that their records displayed flashing sales did not marry up with metres of cladding sold.
        With section sizes reducing there is a compulsion for houses to be built 2 levels to comply with site coverage rules. Most houses the 2nd level is plastered as the cost to build in brick is prohibitative. Sure many that dont leak will have weaknesses but these will be managed by the likes of having eaves, and the ground floor being brick and cavities.
        NZ runs despite what Wellington does, unfortunelty “NZ” will work away around this inspite of the many obstacles that are put in place. Perhaps this is another reason for a true version of self rule !!!
        If a house leaks treated timber does not solve the issue, it just prolongs the time before the effect of water is noticed. How is ot that pre 60′s wooden houses still survive outside the widow frames rotting away, many cases in central Ak before timber was conditioned, admittwly they did use some great native timber to build not this soft Rad Pine.

        • RedLogix 12.1.1.1

          No at the time many within the industry were extrememly aware of the issue and that it was far greater than initial reports.

          These things take time and for every expert pointing out the potential magnitude of the problem, there were several others covering their self-interest by minimising it. By 2004/5 Labour of course DID recognise the problem and the 2005 Building Act introduced substantial changes in a direct response to the problem.

          Now of course everyone in the industry is moaning about ‘compliance costs”.

          The simple fact is that our building industry is economically locked into pinus radiata, which in the long run is entirely unsuitable for anything other than non-load bearing internal partitions and trimmings.

          Personally I’m very scathing of much of NZ’s building industry….competency, integrity and value for money are in short supply… but ultimately it was the 90′s National govt that was responsible for the 1992 Building Act. It was that govt which failed at the helm.

          While the individual Ministers and officials responsible for this debacle are long gone, the bankrupt ..gimcrack… thinking which lead directly to it, is back in power.

          • Herodotus 12.1.1.1.1

            I still remember when this story broke Tim Manning appearing on Holmes TV1, pity this is still not available it was great viewing of the issues and how the industry was to be fixed, funny thing is that all the parties are still there except Branz and the likes of Mr Manning

  13. Frank Macskasy 13

    Over thirty years ago…

    Electricity, telephones, and rail were all state-owned.

    We built huge hydro power stations and lines to carry electricity
    around the country. We didn’t have massive power blackouts.

    We built phone lines from Stewart Islnd to Cape Reinga; the system was
    run by the post office – and it worked! (And no, I can’t recall the
    Post Office taking a month to set up a new phone. I wonder where that
    story came from? Telecom?)

    Our power and phone bills were bi-monthly and did not cripple our bank accounts.

    Our railway system ran on time and didn’t break down with monotonous
    regularity. We employed tradespeople to service the lines, carriages,
    and stations. There were actually SIGNS at each station, so passengers
    knew where to dis-embark.

    Then, in the late ’80s and ’90s, we sold the whole lot off to private
    enterprise (or turned them into several SOEs) – because “competition”
    was good. Prices would drop. Service would be more efficient.

    What we got was;

    * rising prices

    * breakdowns

    * less service

    * and automated machines telling us, “Press 27 if you want your arse scratched”.

    Once upon a time, we built all this infrastructure.

    Today, we can’t even build “Party Central” on Queen’s Wharf in Auckland.

    In other words, we can’t even organise a piss up anymore…

    • Ag 13.1

      It’s not as if we cannot afford it. People would rather spend the money on things like cars and plasma screens, and, across the English speaking world, have voted against parties that propose to restore the tax rate to a sane level.

      In the end the blame lies with the voters, who have had several opportunities to signal a return to sane policy, but who wished to have their cake and eat it too. Now we’ll get another few years of the electorate living in denial and refusing to sanction the increases in taxation required to get out of this mess. We need a proper government and proper public services. These things are necessary and cost money. Anderton was one of the few politicians honest enough to point this out in public.

    • Every word you have said is true Frank I well remember when my State advanced morgage was allowed our house was built to a very high standard.
      The building inspector was dreaded by even the best builder. Our builder called him “Your Friend ” and indeed after nearly fifty years our inexpensive “Working Class” house is the envy of many. Still in good condition . Now the houses I see are expensive ,way beyond the average wage earner and sheer crap.The next Labour government would do well to bring back some form of State Loans again with the same stringent building conditions.

      • A Nonny Moose 13.2.1

        “The next Labour government would do well to bring back some form of State Loans again”

        With the same 20% interest rate, while you’re getting all reminiscent for the “good old days”?

        • D14 13.2.1.1

          >With the same 20% interest rate, while you’re getting all reminiscent for the “good old days’?
          Nope, we had a 3% state loan and 14% second mort. in about 1983

  14. Descendant Of Smith 14

    When I said some people were stupid I actually meant “some people”. I didn’t mean to imply all people or even a majority of people. I know quite a few people who against all prevailing advice went for the lower cost cheaper option when other good builders gave them good quality advice and in some cases told them directly the houses they were looking to buy would have problems of this sort..

    I fully accept their were other people who were not given advice and who were reliant solely on their builders.

    I also have family who were in the building trade during the time that these buildings were built and have never built a leaky building in this way and actually refused to do work in many of these developments because of the lack of expertise and skill and the way the subcontracting was being carried out.

    They continued to maintain high standards regardless of any government regulation.

    I don’t see however that those who purchased these properties should take no responsibility either. Buying a house isn’t like buying a DVD player from a video shop and some care needs to be taken.

    It would be nice if the people who actually built them were held to account and were made to fix their shoddy workmanship.

    • RedLogix 14.1

      It would be nice if the people who actually built them were held to account and were made to fix their shoddy workmanship.

      Which flies in the face of how modern buildings are built. These days the ‘builder’ hardly ever actual lifts so much as a hammer. It’s almost all done by others from the site works, the foundations, the framing, the roofing, the windows, the cladding, the fitout and painting… all subcontracted.

      Usually these subbies are poorly paid and are total strawmen when it comes to attempting to sue them or hold them to account for their specific failings in workmanship. How do hold someone accountable for a $300k failure when they were only paid something like $5-20k for their portion of it?

      Worse still because the building process is deeply inter-dependent on the performance of many systems and other people, the whole exercise degenerates into a round of endless fingerpointing.

      • Descendant Of Smith 14.1.1

        I’m seeing I have to be very particular with my language today – obviously the smithing comment also refers to word smithing.

        I did think it was self evident that by people who built them I meant the actual firms/builders paid by the owner to build their house rather than the individual workers. I don’t think it is usual practice to have the workers of a firm personally liable.

        • RedLogix 14.1.1.1

          I don’t think it is usual practice to have the workers of a firm personally liable.

          You miss the point; these tasks are not done by the builder’s employees, rather they are independent sub-contractors.

          Attempting to sue even the builder, who may have made only $15-30k on the build, is not likely to yield a satisfactory outcome… assuming the company still exists or he hasn’t shot through to Aussie. If was a case a few dozen buildings going wrong in the ordinary way, you would have a case to hold individual builders responsible, but with a crisis of this scale it’s very hard to pin down any one party in the chain, designer, builder, specifiers, sub-contractors, inspectors…who could realistically make things right. No-one standing has pockets deep enough.

          In my mind the most directly culpable parties by far were the big building suppliers like Hardies who aggressively marketed these faulty systems despite abundant evidence from Canada that they would not be satisfactory. As usual with capitalism, they’ve privatised the profits and socialised the losses.

          But overarching this still remains the fact that it was a National govt, blinded by an ideology that ‘the market would sort it all out’… who set in place the regime under which this took place.

    • RedLogix 15.1

      Yes… that’s an aspect I left out in the interests of brevity.

      The problems with these building methods were well known from Canadian experience, especially in Vancouver, well before 1992.

      National could never have used the ‘no-one knew’ excuse.

    • RedLogix 16.1

      Peter Cresswell clearly knows a lot about the industry, but his conclusions are pre-formed by his libertarian viewpoint. His argument is demolished by two of his commenters, but in essence Cresswell’s argument that the crisis was caused because of regulation and by implication would not have happened if there had been no regulation at all… is just so much drivelling tosh.

      The average person has no inkling of modern building materials and science. In all complex societies we rely on specialists and we cannot enter into contracts on symmetrically informed basis. We rely on specialists telling us the truth.

      By 1990 it was apparent that the Building Codes and Regs needed updating to cope with the rapidly changing materials and methods being pushed by various big industry players, Hardies, CHH and Fletchers being the main culprits. It was argued that the ‘free market’ knew best and that the old prescriptive NZ3604 Code that mandated a limited palette of methods and materials was too ‘bureaucratic’ and restrictive.

      In its place a whole new regime that ‘described’ the desired outcomes was put in it’s place. Fundamentally this was a good idea; but as with all National govts the implemetation was a fuck up. It relied on the average Joe Public being able to trust what the information being given to them by specialists, and the gatekeeper was meant to be BRANZ.

      Unfortunately BRANZ was always an underfunded little outfit, stuck out in the backwaters of rural Porirua, with modest testing resources and less regulatory clout. Although dedicated staff did a lot of good work in many areas of research; fundamentally the big industry players seemed to have bulldozed rings around them. In particular it is very hard to understand how some Approvals were issued for systems that even at the time the was good evidence to suggest were suspect.

      This disaster occured on National’s watch. It rates even bigger than the sale of NZR and Telecom in terms of it’s deleterious effect on this nation. Only Muldoon’s raping of Labour’s first Superannuation scheme ranks higher in terms of it’s impact.

      Time they got to wear it.

      • Quoth the Raven 16.1.1

        And your conclusions are not pre-formed by your bias. What I get from your comment just been and PC’s arugment and his personal experience was that this issue is far more complex than the simple story people have put forth about ‘deregulation’. I would hope that is the image most people would get if they read around with an open mind.

    • Draco T Bastard 16.2

      Ok, so, after reading that the problem was cronyism, the wrong regulations caused by that cronyism, materials passed that shouldn’t have been also due to the cronyism and, finally, the break down of the apprentice system which stopped people learning how to build houses.

      Want to build a balustrade? The new Building Code told you (and still does) how you’re allowed to do it, right down to the size of bolts and the spacing of balusters.

      So anyone who can read can build a balustrade without going to an architect and/or a civil engineer? This guy, if he was actually supportive of a free-market, should be cheering this on.

      Want to specify the timber you’re going to build your house with? The standards specified under the new Building Code told you (and still do) what timber you’re allowed to use where. Want to install a cladding system? The new Building Code told you (and still does) what hoops you have to jump through before you’re allowed to.

      Use of Carter’s and Fletcher’s dry-frame timber in wall framing was allowed because a committee of the New Zealand Standards Authority decided that it should be (and sitting on that committee were representatives of, you guessed it, Carters and Fletchers) and because the boys from BRANZ issued an “appraisal’ declaring it to be fit for that purpose.

      This is where the regulations broke down and that was due to the above mentioned cronyism. The big commercial guys had representatives on the board of BRANZ and so sub-standard materials got passed. What a surprise.

      Now, what would have happened if the people who were supposed to be doing the research were actually doing the research and not taking the research by the producers at face value?

  15. reddy 17

    what I want to know is how has this not stuck with the Nats politically. and how has it not completely failed the ideology of deregulation and hands off?

    We still haven’t paid off the fuck ups from last time we had these pricks in. How long is it going to take (if ever) to fix up mined National Parks, ACC, primary schools, superannuation, kiwisaver etc etc…

    why are the councils getting pinged with it and not the Nats? it should be linked with the doing away of apprenticeships etc etc etc…as their unwanted legacy, that after 9 years and a affable smile has been forgotten.

    • Well you may ask Reddy , It has baffled me for years . Of course people have short memories and many do not have, and do not want, a grasp of politics. Having said that the reason this bloody awful lot get away with so much is the brilliance of Textor -Crosby . The excellent continuous positive publicity T/C manage for the Nats is mind-boggling . Even at electorate level. This combined with the Right Wing media give the Nats a big advantage.
      The problem looming up is that they will be working for the Political Right (if they are not already ) in the up coming Super City elections.
      Im hoping that our people are aware of this and are taking action.

  16. Chris 18

    RedLogix – are you reading my FB posts?

    • Chris 18.1

      RedLogix – are you reading my FB posts? I posted about this very issue at about 8.30am this morning, and one hour later you are writing about it. Glad to know that someone is reading my posts!

      • RedLogix 18.1.1

        No I posted independently, but I’ve commented on the thread. Interesting to see the indefatigable McShane still defending the indefensible.

        • Chris 18.1.1.1

          Well I’m pleased that someone else other than me can see what the real issue is; the nat’s by their blinkered ideology caused this 11 billion dollar problem – they should pay it all.

  17. JMK 19

    The leaky building issue is the best argument I’ve heard against unfettered free markets.

    But, fun as it is to watch politicians pass the blame to the other parties, as a leaky home owner all I’m really interested in is who has the best plan to fix the situation. I don’t see Labour coming up with anything on this at all – when they come up with a realistic plan, they will be a credible government in waiting. Until then, I’m not too unhappy with National’s approach to the problem – they have at least tried to quantify it!

  18. yep. I was just pretty much starting to learn to analyse politics for myself at the time, and I distinctly recall the contention at the time that ‘the market will sort it out’. Specifically, that builders and developers who built shoddy buildings would be punished by the market and that the invisible hand would take care of things.

    Invisible hand all right; Jesus H, they must be tired of laughing by now…

  19. handle 21

    RB, when you say “from Canadian experience” you are assuming the numpties believe in evidence. No sign of that in other areas like climate change, public transport, education and ACC is there? Leaky buildings are a classic example of the small government bollocks we were subjected to for 15 years in a very expensive experiment (and I agree with your other examples).

    Post-1999 Labour governments also knew about this and did worse than nothing. Disbanding BRANZ so there was no government agency left to sue was downright cowardly. Maybe allowing an unsustainable property boom was out of guilt?

  20. handle 22

    Meanwhile, the invisible hand was too busy pleasuring dodgy developers and captains of industry.

  21. SPC 23

    I suppose in the end Phil Heatley found his inability to keep within the ministerial spending rules had one good point, it allowed him to escape this issue – and perhaps they needed someone really really right wing on this anyway.

    And has anyone wondered about the relationship between the super city in Auckland and leaky homes.

    One thing the super city does is bring in more ratepayers to share the cost of the local government expense.

    Another thing it does is bring in an easier course to offering these ratepayers a choice – a huge increase in their rates bill or slashing jobs – privatising services and selling assets to pay for their share of the leaky homes bill.

    With this precedent in place more of the cost of leaky homes can be offloaded onto councils nationwide – a super city in Wellington and generally slashing jobs and privatising services as the chosen (Auckland) model for affordability.

    If they are successful in that, it would be an easier course to affording a slashing of the top rate of tax for a certain few nationwide.

    Thus the link between the super city in Auckland, leaky homes and the May budget.

  22. Thomas 24

    Hi
    While I agree about free market ideals causing the problem 300K per house is a ridiculous overstatement. You could bowl and rebuild the overwhelming majority of houses built in the 90′s for much less than that. CHH and others should be made liable and the people trying to make their fortune out of “fixing” leaky homes should also be reined in. Customers are not totally blameless either. Many times we quoted on a building or renovation or said to customers do not do it this way it will need repairs or replacement within ten years. In most cases they would knowingly engage a cheaper builder who was prepared to cut corners. A comment was often made that “we will have sold the house within ten years” Don;t even get me started on botchups by owners or other builders we eventually repaired. Many good tradesmen have left for Australia because the “market” in NZ is rigged so real tradesmen cannot get payment commensurate with the skills required. Big companies with dodgy half trained employees get the contracts. They should be required to have a ratio of qualified to unqualified builders on site.

    • Draco T Bastard 24.1

      Many good tradesmen have left for Australia because the “market’ in NZ is rigged so real tradesmen cannot get payment commensurate with the skills required. Big companies with dodgy half trained employees get the contracts.

      Apparently, the going rate for a qualified carpenter ATM is ~$15+GST. If the companies can’t hire carpenters at that rate, which they can’t, they hire hammer hands and say that they’re carpenters. Quality isn’t any more a part of today’s buildings than it was in 1990s. The big companies are still selling dodgy materials (materials that are banned in other parts of the world), they still take no responsibility for those materials being worthless and no one in government is doing a damned thing about it.

      They should be required to have a ratio of qualified to unqualified builders on site.

      That would be a good start.

  23. RedLogix 25

    You could bowl and rebuild the overwhelming majority of houses built in the 90′s for much less than that.

    Agreed. There are a lot of questions to be asked around this process. Of course re-cladding in permanent materials is not always as simple as it appears. For a start there may well be a lot of structural remedial work to be done, then all the details around doors, windows, decks etc will need major re-work. The reality is that repairs are always far less efficient than building new; labour costs are probably 2-3 times higher.

    At the same time $300k is a very big number and if the govt actually pulled finger and put in place an organisation capable of training people, sourcing materials and generally facilitating the process I’d agree that it could be done for less.

    Trouble is, this bunch of shiny-arses in govt can’t build a cycleway and are even on track for a fail at the RWC piss-up.

  24. Armchair Critic 26

    Great post RL, very thought-provoking.
    “Trouble is, this bunch of shiny-arses in govt can’t build a cycleway and are even on track for a fail at the RWC piss-up”
    Not to mention acknowledging they made a mistake.
    The thing that has me absolutley stumped is the litigious approach to the issue. The whole thing seems to revolve around determing who, or which ideology, is to blame, as if knowing will fix the problem. It won’t.
    Looking for multiple parties to resolve the issue is, IMO, pointless. The developers are mostly long gone, councils do not have the ability to fund this, it’s really down to whichever government has the moral courage to do the right thing, and make up for this horrible combination of mistakes National foisted upon us. Otherwise the houses will rot around their owners, losing everything except their land value and ruining their owner’s health.
    I’m guessing the $23b is an estimate of the direct costs and does not include indirect costs.

  25. Free Market never worked and only allowed monopoly by huge corporations whereby huge bonuses were given CEO’s as a reward to those who came up with the scams that made the most.

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    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Unions – what ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Timor-Leste’s Parliament handed ‘humiliating’ defeat over harsh media...
    East Timorese journalists raise their hands to approve the Timor-Leste JournalistCode of Ethics in October 2013. Photo: Tempo Semanal/Cafe Pacific   David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. PACIFIC SCOOP reported this week that East Timor’s Appeal Court had scrapped...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • THIS is why we need a public broadcaster!
    The richest 20% of us in NZ own 70% of the wealth, with 18% in the hands of the second richest quintile, and 10% in the hands of the middle quintile. Just 2 per cent was owned by people in...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • A vote for Key is a vote for this
    A vote for Key is a vote for this...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Why the Secret Intelligence Service feeding Cameron Slater information is s...
    Folks, it doesn’t matter if you are Right or Left, the issue of the Secret Intelligence Service being forced to feed a far right hate speech merchant like Cameron Slater with sensitive information is an ‘us’ issue. The SIS are...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • How lost and irrelevant are ACT?
    So ACT had it’s ‘launch’. Well, what passes as an ACT launch these days. Lot’s of anorak’s with that 1000 yard star and dreams of a Milton Friedman Free Market dancing behind their eyelids all crammed into a room small...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Party rowing advert aimed at Gen Xers
    Unkind wags such as myself would suggest that if the above were a real representation of National, it would look more like this…   National know they have the rural mob and the angry provincial vote locked in, with their...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • The boldest, most creative and dynamic policy on employment for two generat...
    If you watched TV news last night you could be forgiven for thinking that a circus was on when Internet MANA launched its election campaign today. The reporting was abysmal but I won’t rehash it here because it’s been described...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Internet MANA announce free tertiary education & full employment – me...
    Internet MANA launch their campaign after an extraordinary road tour and after gaining 4% in the Colmar Brunton Poll, today should have been the start point for a momentous occasion  in progressive political history. It was, but sadly most won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Privilege denies true representation of disability rights
    The human right of people with disabilities in New Zealand has come back into the spotlight by the Human Rights Commission. The report named ‘Making Disability Rights Real’ highlights some of the main issues as being adequate data collection, accessibility,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Election TV campaign ads – Opening Night
    . .The infamous National Party ‘Dancing Cossacks’ Attack advert  NZ, 23 August -  The election campaign “kicked off” on Saturday evening, with a one hour “televisual feast”. Party advertisements were broadcast for National, Labour, Greens, NZ First, United Future/Peter Dunne,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Blogging vs Journalism vs Politics – The 7 latest revolting revelations
    So we now enter the most dangerous phase for National, the phase where the minutia of detail is so great now, the media have all the ammunition to keep asking questions that clearly show Key isn’t being honest in his...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • A positive story of political co-operation!
    .   . Wellington, NZ, 23 August - The following is a true story and shows how the natural inclination of the rank-and-file of our main left-wing parties is to work together… I’ve been in contact with both the Green...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • WoF law will evict the poor and students from their houses
    The Green warrant of fitness law will evict the poor and students from their houses, if they’re lucky enough to find a place to rent in the first place...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Police response to IPCA report on ‘out of control’ parties
    Police accept today's Independent Police Conduct Authority report recommendations regarding the handling of 'out of control' parties and has already improved its policies and practices for managing these complex and sometimes violent situations....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Review of Police handling of ‘out of control’ parties
    An Independent Police Conduct Authority review has found that Police are working to ensure officers called upon to deal with out of control gatherings in future are better trained to deal with the situations they may face....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Wynyard and NZ Police Announce Ground-breaking Partnership
    Auckland, 28 August 2014 - Wynyard Group, a market leader in advanced crime analytics software and services, today welcomed the New Zealand Police as a long term partner in its Crime Science Research Institute (CSRI)....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Polls confirm dirty politics out and the Conservatives in
    The latest 3News-Reid Research poll has the Conservative Party on 4.6 per cent which means they are virtually on their way to Parliament. Garth McVicar, the Conservative Party candidate for the Napier electorate believes the polls are proof that the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Toke the Vote 2014: NORML’s guide to NZ cannabis policies
    NORML’s policy, renewed at our recent national conference , is to encourage supporters to vote for parties and candidates who will work to reform our cannabis laws....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Internet Mana List Embodies Modern Aotearoa
    An impressive mix of personal and professional skills, cultural backgrounds and ages marks the release of Internet MANA’s combined party list. “Our list highlights the calibre of talent woven throughout Internet MANA,” said leader Hone Harawira....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • The Dirty Politics Fallout
    Tonight’s 3News-Reid Research poll shows that the Conservative Party is on the verge of making it into the next Parliament, even without an electorate deal with National. The poll, conducted in the week following the release of Nicky Hager’s...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te reo Māori trending at New Zealand Fashion Week
    Language and fashion express culture and identity so it’s fitting for the Māori Party to launch its te reo Māori policy at New Zealand’s premiere fashion event in Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Party And Candidate Lists for 2014 Election Released
    The Electoral Commission has released the nominations for the 2014 General Election, with 15 registered political parties and 554 candidates contesting the election....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Take Steps Against Child Poverty with Us!
    TAKE STEPS AGAINST CHILD POVERTY WITH US! Britomart to Aotea Square, Auckland, 11am, Saturday 6 Sept Music * Interactive Art * Stilt Walkers * Great Speakers * Plus more!...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Leading politicians to debate NZ’s role in the world
    Have you ever wondered where New Zealand stands when it comes to issues beyond our borders? Join Amnesty International's North Shore Group on Monday 1 September for a lively cross party debate and the chance to find out the answer...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Livestream
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence is happy to announce the upcoming political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invite representatives...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Politicians ignore 20% of New Zealanders
    Despite 20% of New Zealanders supporting it, none of the parties currently represented in Parliament endorse the legalisation of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Company tax rates
    The Op Ed pages of the left-leaning New York Times are full of articles by economists supporting proposals to dramatically lower Company Taxes. These economists are urging the United States to lower company taxes and point to Canada where the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Stephen Dudley Case: No appeal or review of discharge
    On 8 August 2014 Crown Law received a request from the office of the Auckland Crown Solicitor to consider a Crown appeal against the discharge without conviction entered in respect of M in the High Court at Auckland on 7...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Dudley Family Statement
    “We are utterly devastated at the news regarding the law not allowing for this unjustified discharge without conviction to be appealed....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Chief Judge: Chief Sized Offender Bias
    “Justice by name, not by nature” states Ruth Money Sensible Sentencing Trust National Spokesperson, of Justice Helen Winkelmann’s decision to discharge without conviction the offender charged with the fatal attack on 15 year old schoolboy Stephen...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Confusion over BPS Reducing Crime and Reoffending Results
    A survey has revealed widespread confusion – even amongst professionals in the justice sector – about what the government’s reducing crime and reoffending progress reports actually mean....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Commission condemns violent attack on Gay Wellingtonians
    The Human Rights Commission has condemned a violent attack on staff and patrons at a gay bar in central Wellington last Friday. GayNZ reported that the alleged attackers were abusive and violent when they realised the bar and the people...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • One down, 12 to go says Community Housing Aotearoa
    The Waimahia Inlet is a step in the right direction for community housing to deliver 20% of New Zealand’s social and affordable housing by 2020, says Community Housing Aotearoa. CHA Director Scott Figenshow says the sector has been set a...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Research considering changes to pedestrian crossing laws
    A University of Canterbury research project has been considering the costs and benefits of a range of potential changes to pedestrian crossing laws that would bring New Zealand in line with the rest of the world....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Dairy farmers and consumers at risk from unapproved GE Grain
    The Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) must immediately test all maize and soy for presence of unapproved GE lines coming from the Americas....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • NZ on Air Refuse to Condemn “Kill the PM” Song
    New Zealand On Air has refused to condemn @peace’s 'Kill the PM' song, and will not provide any assurance that no further taxpayer money will be used to support groups that promote violence and political hate. Earlier today the Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • iPredict Ltd 2014 Election Update #32
    The combined wisdom of iPredict’s 8000 registered traders suggests National has begun a recovery after its prospects crashed last week following the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics . The governing party’s forecast party vote is back...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Juicy carrot for prisoners alarming suggestion – McVicar
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar says the public will be alarmed to learn that the only tool the Corrections Department has available to get prisoners to behave is to offer them a juicy carrot....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Panel: Fiji’s Return to Democracy
    Fiji’s post-coup elections and their impact in the Pacific o What is the role of the media in the Elections? o How might New Zealand help Fiji on its return to democracy?...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Cross-party consensus on climate change critical
    Senior NZ health professionals welcome recent policy announcements on climate change by major political parties, saying cross-party consensus is critical to address this leading health issue....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Minister of Transport to Attend Election Debate Tomorrow
    Organisers of tomorrow night's transport debate in Auckland are delighted that Minister of Transport Hon. Gerry Brownlee will now be attending....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Society Applauds Proposed NZ-Wide Risk Assessment
    The Wise Response Society is heartened to see that Labour' just released Climate Change policy includes formal support for the Society's call for a New Zealand-wide Risk Assessment. The Green Party has also formally acknowledged support for the Wise...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Iwi Leaders welcome Labour policy on climate change
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