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Polity: Proof

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Here’s a tweet from Felix Marwick this morning:

This is very serious. To remind you, here are parts of Key’s interview with Guyon Espiner on Monday:

Espiner: Did that [SIS OIA] request come across your desk?
Key: No.

Espiner: So, you’re the Minister responsible for the SIS, yet you did not sign off on that request?
Key: No.

Espiner: You had no knowledge that a request had been made?
Key: I knew there were requests, cos, you know, yeah I would have known because generally they say “there’s a series of requests in to the SIS or the GCSB. But they often – well they always sign off on things on their own timetable.

Thanks to Marwick, we now know the truth in this matter.

At best, Key’s set of answers is “extremely economical.” In fact, it shows a clear intention to mislead the public and cover up Key’s gatekeeper role in releasing security documents to a partisan friend to attack a partisan opponent. That is awful. Just awful.

 

 


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NewstalkZB: “Further evidence Key knew about OIA”
Key should resign over SIS information bungle – Goff

Phil Goff’s welcoming a spy watchdog’s investigation, into how Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater got information about him from the SIS.

He believes the Inspector General of Intelligence and Security will find proof Mr Ede was involved.

“He knew when he was originally intended to receive them, how would he know that unless told by the 9th floor of the Beehive?

“He knew what the content of the documents were – that didn’t come from the SIS, that came from the Prime Minister’s department.”

Mr Goff says it looks like Mr Key abused his power as minister in charge of the spy agency, and he should resign as Prime Minister.

99 comments on “Polity: Proof”

  1. Dont worry. Be happy 1

    Resign John Key. You lied one too many times and now its all on the record. Bare faced lie. Resign.

    • You_Fool 1.1

      You will find that he will argue that he didn’t lie:
      He said it didn’t cross his desk and according to that letter no paperwork crossed his desk.
      He said he didn’t sign off on it, and once more the letter confirms that he didn’t see any paper work, and thus didn’t “sign off” on anything (he may of said go ahead but that is a different question.)
      He didn’t say he hadn’t heard of the request, he didn’t even deny knowing about it, he deflected by saying that a lot of requests come in and he is informed of them, and if you re-read his statement he even says he knew of the request, he just hid it in random words and implied that he didn’t know of it specifically because stuff.

      However this does show JK’s shifty nature and how he tries to use language to put impressions in peoples minds that are not correct, nor what he actually said.

      • Akldnut 1.1.1

        Tranzrail eyes and lies coming home to roost years later.

        Hone was so right, slippery liar to say the absolute least.

    • Tracey 2.1

      herald has grabbed it and stated Key said he never personally was told

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11311764

      • gobsmacked 2.1.1

        That quote pre-dates this morning’s developments. Annoyingly, both Stuff and the Herald tend to add to an existing story without putting in update times (as other overseas sites do).

        AFAIK, Key hasn’t responded this morning.

        • Tracey 2.1.1.1

          That was my point though, he said before today that he was never personally told. Today reveals that lie. How the herald has chosen to frame it is very black and white against John Key.

          • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.1.1.1

            SIS giving him wiggle-room, PM = Office of the PM.

            I’m not buying it. Key wasn’t “told” – he did the telling.

            • Weepus beard 2.1.1.1.1.1

              Can’t see how they can. It states no written correspondence with the PM’s office, then goes on to state Tucker informed the PM. These two statement clearly set out what is the PM’s office and what is the PM and also that there was no written correspondence and so by definition there was verbal correspondence – with the PM.

              Or am I reading that wrong?

              • Tracey

                he uses the words “Prime Minister” 3 times and Prime Minister’s Office once.

                he clearly understands the difference, which is heartening given his salary.

                • Weepus beard

                  If the statement from (the PM’s office?) saying “the SIS considers informing the PM’s office to be the same as informing the PM,” is to be believed then Mr. Tucker must have spoken to someone in the PM’s office.

                  Who, then, was it?

                  Only Mr. Tucker and the person he spoke to will know I suppose.

                  • Tracey

                    makes you wonder why Tucker made the distinction in his reply then, between the PMO and the PM…

                  • mickysavage

                    Marwick has released a further letter which blows an even bigger hole in Key’s story. Tucker sought legal advice on how much of the discussion should be released under the OIA. The letter says that there was “good reason to with-hold Dr Tucker’s full recollection of his discussion with the Prime Minister”. The letter is crystal clear. Tucker wanted to know if he had to disclose details of his discussion with Key, you know the discussion that Key said never happened.

                    Pants on fire …

                    http://t.co/pJC6jipC8q

                    • Bill

                      http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/images/pdfs/ombusdman-21aug2014.pdf

                      Not intending to be pernickety, but here’s a pdf direct and readable link to the document I think you’re referring to. The text in your original twitter link is too small to be read and involves jumping through further links to get a readable version.

                    • Weepus beard

                      That’s even more clear. I cannot see any room for misinterpreting that.

                      Has Mr Tucker been bought and paid for by the National government, or, as Tom Jackson suggests above, he doesn’t want to get the blame for this mess?

                    • ianmac

                      Good news just when it seemed that the case was not clearcut against Mr Key, whammo! It is possible that the quick off the mark from the Auditor General is because she has read those letters and can see that there is a nasty smell.
                      Key is relieved that there is an enquiry because hecan say no comment while there is an investigation going on. Hrrrph!

                    • politikiwi

                      It is dancing on the head of a pin to suggest “discussion with the Prime Minister” in that context means discussions with someone at his office.

                      It’s just not credible.

                    • Tracey

                      yup. Can we call it serial arson yet?!?

                      It also means that the SIS and or PMs office are lying by their clarification today

      • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.2

        Too late for that. Note Key’s very tricky turn of phrase. Of course it didn’t go across his desk for him to sign: Tucker got his instructions face-to-face.

  2. disturbed 3

    Dirty Politics: Free speech & a policy-free election
    by Wayne Mapp National Party.
    “Is the Dirty Politics debate making a mockery of the manifestos? And should authors have the right to right to use material that’s obtained by criminal means?”

    Mapp asks do they have the right to use material that’s obtained by criminal means?

    He presents the argument that we should have free speech but does want a policy debate during this election.

    We agree, but as National has broken all rules during the last election to smear the Labour leader using illegally obtained fast tracked SIS information to conduct that election rather than discussing policies, well we have to say why did National do last election what Wayne Mapp is asking we not do this election?
    Did National have the right to use material that’s obtained by criminal means?

    Judith Collins has gone to ground and press cant find her, while John Key wont take press questions as of 9am this morning (like Nixon did) we need to find out what this Government’s policies are on law and how they intend conducting themselves going forward.

    That is another policy we believe to be as important as Health, housing Schools, transport, and poverty.

    • Tracey 3.1

      can you find anything where he says national party staffers and sympathisers taking stuff from labour’s website was wrong? That Judith needs to go, or has even done anything wrong?

      As for his policy line. labour and Greens have released far more policy than National. I bet he overlooked that.

  3. Tracey 4

    flashback to when Ms Clark was lambasted by Key for knowing that Peters and Glenn’s versions of the donation were different but didn’t tell the public.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rVuJ9b0IRU&feature=youtu.be

    and his Press release in August 2008

    National Party Leader John Key says Winston Peters would be unacceptable as a Minister in a government led by him unless Mr Peters can provide a credible explanation on the Owen Glenn saga.

    “Labour Party donor Owen Glenn’s letter to the Privileges Committee completely contradicts Winston Peters’ version of events about the substantial $100,000 donation made by Mr Glenn to Mr Peters’ legal costs.

    “Mr Glenn’s letter represents a direct challenge to Mr Peters’ credibility, from the only other person in the world in a position to know the facts.

    “From Parliament’s point of view, the Privileges Committee provides an appropriate vehicle to resolve the points of conflict and to hold individuals to account. But from the Prime Minister’s and the Government’s point of view, that is not enough.

    “Governments and Ministers must enjoy the confidence of the Parliament and, ultimately, the public. Faced with today’s revelations, it is no longer acceptable for Mr Peters to offer bluster and insults where simple, courteous, honest answers are required.

    “It is no longer acceptable or credible for Helen Clark to assert a facade of confidence in her Foreign Affairs Minister and to fail to ask the plain questions of him that she has a duty to the public to ask.

    “Faced with today’s revelations, Helen Clark must stand Mr Peters down as a Minister. That is what I would do if I were Prime Minister. Helen Clark has stood Ministers from Labour down for much less .

    “Unless he can provide a credible explanation about this serious issue, he should be unacceptable to Helen Clark as a Minister in her Labour-led Government.

    “Mr Peters will be unacceptable as a Minister in a government led by me unless he can provide a credible explanation.”

    Right Honourable John Key – August 2008 – National Party Press Release

    SO, when labour ran their 2008 campaign on Trust, and not being able to Trust Key, they were right, they just couldn’t prove it.

  4. One Anonymous Bloke 5

    Key told the “truth”. He didn’t “sign” it off: he gave spoken instructions to Tucker.

    Tricky lying Prime Minister is tricky.

    • Tracey 5.1

      Maybe but we know what he DID lie about, and that is now proven. And the Herald puts it like this

      “Mr Key said that while his office was told the information was being sent to Slater, he personally wasn’t told.”

      • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1.1

        That’s them paraphrasing, isn’t it? Check Key’s actual quotes. He has used forms of words to give that impression without stating it.

        Classic and very experienced; you don’t pick up skills like that overnight.

        • gobsmacked 5.1.1.1

          Check the Newstalk ZB link above. He said “I wasn’t told”. Quote.

          You can hear the audio on Marwick’s Twitter.

          • Te Reo Putake 5.1.1.1.1

            The link to that lie again: http://chirb.it/406NhK

            “I wasn’t told”. Yeah right.

          • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1.1.1.2

            He says “I wasn’t told [draws breath] it went out…”

            No Mr. Key, they told you before, not afterwards. Well, that is to say you told them.

            So that’s true too: he wasn’t “told” – he gave instructions to that effect, so it was him doing the telling.

            None of this matters because he’s going to look even worse if he tries to explain things that way :lol:

        • Tracey 5.1.1.2

          Yes it is. My point was that the HERALD chose to paraphrase it that way which looks very damaging to key.

    • RedLogix 5.2

      Which is why he appointed his mate to the role – someone who would undertake ‘spoken’ instructions without a paper trail.

      Someone more familiar with the inner workings at this level of the public service may have a better understanding of this – but it strikes me that here is Key’s most damaging culpability.

  5. One Anonymous Bloke 6

    Whaledump promising last political post today. I suppose the rest will be industrial, and there was me hoping for something juicy for the National conference. Can’t complain I guess, and who knows, I may yet get a surprise :lol:

    Key has a lot on his plate. Nom nom nom, Prime Minister.

  6. North 7

    TheGodKey has lost it in his lies. Tucker spoke to him PERSONALLY. He must go. Oh hang on……to whom would fall the task of sacking Collins. Aha…….Bill English. Pas de problem !

  7. gobsmacked 8

    And right on cue …

    “In a statement this morning a spokesperson says the SIS considers informing the Prime Minister’s office to be informing the Prime Minister and Mr Key stands by the statements he made yesterday.”

    (Newstalk ZB, see link at comment 2).

    • One Anonymous Bloke 8.1

      Yeah let’s see how that plays out :)

    • Tracey 8.2

      good for the spokesperson BUT Mr Tucker is VERY clear in his letter.

      here is the no surprises OIA policy for those who still don’t know.

      “.. In terms of providing the information to the Minister’s Office, this is required of the Ministry as part of the “no surprises” approach. All requests made under the Official Information Act, regardless of their content and nature, must be provided to the Responsible Minister for their information as part of this approach. The “no surprises” approach is consistent with guidelines provided by the State Services Commission and the Cabinet Manual which emphasise that a Department or Ministry ought to advise the Responsible Minister of issues that may be discussed in the public arena or that may require a ministerial response, preferably ahead of time or otherwise as soon as possible”

      Given Collins email exploits, her oravida assistance, he leaking public servants names, and now speaking tot he Minister, doesn’t mean speaking tot he minister, what DO these highly paid cabinet members do for NZ? I mean John key and Ms Collins both seem to be doing alot of stuff but none of it is working for NZ

    • North 8.3

      Tucker’s letter proceeds in the first person. The personal pronoun ‘I’ is used 7 times. Personal contact would seem to be consistent with an exercise in which there was no trail of written documentation.

      Perhaps to avoid social embarrassment Key’s minders should let him know he pongs to high heaven, such is the mountain of shit by which he so regularly barefaced ‘stands’.

      • Tracey 8.3.1

        I worked for someone who was so scared of incurring legal action that he/she micromanaged the shit out of the place and paralysed the practice. As a result she/he was cponstantly getting letters from governing body and clients and spent all her/his time managing that rather than the work we were all supposed to be doing…

        sounds similar. None of these folks are actually doing government work.

        even no surprises policy is about bad media and not good government

  8. Brian 9

    Waits for the brain fade……..

  9. Tom Gould 10

    According to media, a group of Young Nationals is planning a book burning. Little more needs saying, really. Key has been silent. I guess fascist parties are so predictable.

    • Tracey 10.1

      That should help sales. I guess the last thing they want is to see the SST top ten books list

      with JOHN key’s face above or below the Dirty Politics

    • cogito 10.2

      Echoes of Hitler retreating to his bunker… Key has been a Hitler clone from day one and has had this coming to him.

      • Tracey 10.2.1

        Could you change that to any other dictator, otherwise this will be derailed by Godwin’s law. Apparently only comparison’s to hitler are not okay. You could use Pinochet I think.

  10. Mike 11

    What a sad bunch of conspiracy theorists you left wing people are. Has it occured to you that your electorate the “so-called” disadvantaged couldn’t give a rats arse about Dirty Politics – they are too busy surviving. God help us if you get near the reins of power.

    • vto 11.1

      What a bad bunch of conspirators you right wing people are. Has it occurred to you that your electorate the “selfish and greedy” over-privileged are scum like rats who have been caught in a rat-trap – too busy being arseholes and shitting on their neighbours.
      God help us if you remain in power.

    • Tracey 11.2

      How would you know a single thing about the disadvantaged when your party and most of its supporters keep telling us everyone is okee dokee in Nu Zilund and nothing to see here but a surplus of born out of creative accounting, shafting CHCHCH and…

      read the book, then you will see exactly how much the Right “cares” about people.

    • North 11.3

      You’re whistling in the dark Mike while shitting your pants……terrified that the ‘low rent’ people you sneer about ARE interested AND concerned and WILL vote acccordingly. Come out with a definitive counter to what Hager says. Some no holds barred denials. Clean, honest denials backed up by evidence. And a couple of lawsuits. No one has to date. Oh except TheGodKey who one day ‘sort of does’ and the next day ‘sort of doesn’t’.

      You can do none of the above. So enough of your whining you ignorant snivelling joke of a person.

      • Mike 11.3.1

        And how will that help the disadvantaged???

        • North 11.3.1.1

          You running the discredited bullshit “Ooooh Metiria’s got a flash coat !” are you Mike ? Come up with something to counter the conspiracists you nut on about – instead of being a shallow mouthy wanker.

  11. philj 12

    xox
    The mechanics of obsfucation and machination sound very familiar to the Dunne/Vance breach of privacy last year. This resulted in the resignation of Chief of Parliamentary Services, Geoff Horn, after communication from PM’s Chief of Staff, Wayne Eagleson. Very interesting times…

  12. Tracey 13

    Does anyone know where Collins, Key, Slater and Banks were on the night of April 4 2014?

    I’m just wondering cos if they all were in one place, that would create quite an inferno?

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Suppression-remains-for-storage-fire-arson-accused/tabid/423/articleID/354408/Default.aspx

  13. Tom Gould 14

    So if Tucker didn’t do it in writing, who in the PMs office did he speak to? Was it Jason Ede?

  14. yeshe 15

    Oh, yes, let’s have a book burning in Aotearoa in 2014. Way to go young nats in Waikato; such clear and impressive thinking. Can’t wait to see the international news reports.

    But on another stream — we all believe Collins has something very big on Key so he won’t fire her.

    How about this — is it Slater who has something very big on Key and is running protection for
    Collins ?

    Slater is quoted as saying everyone in politics should be afraid of him ( can’t remember link as so many going on) …

    As off the wall as it might sound, could this thought have some little legs to it … ??

    edit: Maybe this is off thread so I shall post again in Open Mike … sorry !

  15. The Bonfire 16

    Yep, Labour Party staffers should be putting in OIA requests to the Prime Ministers’ Office and to the SIS to ask for the names of the staff members briefed by Tucker. The good money is Ede.

  16. ianmac 17

    The process inside halls of power is to document every action. It is possible that oral instructions were exchanged but the notification of an OIA must have at the very least a note on a file.
    eg: Informed PM of release of document xxxx/2005 3:45pm. or something. And surely such things are logged in the Minister’s Office?
    Investigation should be interesting.

  17. Hayden 18

    The leaked whaledump information, assuming it’s true, seem to show that Slater knew when it was coming and that it had been expedited:

    ————————-
    Cameron Slater, 8/2, 9:03am

    Should be a big day tomorrow

    if my PO Box has a nice brown envelope with OHMS on it
    ————————-
    Aaron Bhatnagar, 8/2, 9:04am

    oh, whats that about?
    ————————-
    Cameron Slater, 8/2, 9:05am

    I OIAd the briefing minutes and notes for Goff’s SIS briefing

    it has been expedited

    in the public interest
    ————————-
    Aaron Bhatnagar, 8/2, 9:05am

    oh yes
    ————————-
    Cameron Slater, 8/2, 9:06am

    it is devastating for Goff I am told

  18. clashman 19

    Question to those more “beltway” than myself

    Is the Tucker letter considered an official document and is it normal or acceptable to use “shorthand” if it is?

  19. rob 20

    I start drinking when John Key says its just a left wing smear campaign. I have been hungover for the past week..

  20. Bill 21

    So, lets assume that Key really did not have knowledge of the request. That means that he didn’t ‘okay’ the release.

    But his office is staffed by employees. Or do have that wrong? If I’m not wrong on that, then he’s asking us to accept that unelected employees in his office make unilateral decisions on whether or not to authorise the release of material by the SIS.

    What would you do if you were the PM and some fucker usurped your authority like that?

    • ianmac 21.1

      Very true Bill. Damned if the PM didn’t know what his staff were doing and damned if he did know and damned if he did do it himself. Ever been caught in a jam?

      • Bill 21.1.1

        I’m just waiting for Goff to unspring him from all of this in some spectacular fashion. Seriously – why is the guy saying anything at all? (His fucking ego?) It’s simply not necessary for him to engage. The info is out there and being discussed and no-one in Labour needs to go anywhere near it.

        • Tracey 21.1.1.1

          yup. Goff is allowing light to shine on his lie too.

          Cunliffe should speak, if anyone and call for key to resign.

          • One Anonymous Bloke 21.1.1.1.1

            He (Cunliffe) already has. As for Goff, why have a dog and bark yourself?

    • One Anonymous Bloke 21.2

      @Bill: I’d give them a gong or throw them under a bus depending on the circumstances. Especially if in truth they were doing my bidding the whole time, whilst maintaining a veneer of deniability.

      If they win the election he’ll resign and be pardoned by Joyce, if they lose he’ll be gone, and good luck getting that extradition warrant honoured.

  21. yeshe 22

    post from whaledump 2 mins ago .. sez the grown ups are talking now so whaledump will be back later .. refs the Marwick letter we’ve seen this morning … https://twitter.com/whaledump

    Ombudsman office seems to confirm Key DISCUSSED the release with Tucker while refusing to release whole discussion under OIA …

    • Tim 22.1

      Hey yeshe – it’s not the same letter. It’s a letter from the Ombudsmen to NewsTalkZB, assessing ZB’s complaint about their OIA. The Ombudsmen refers explicitly to “discussions” between the PM and the SIS. I’d judge the second document as more incriminating than the first – you can’t have a “discussion” with the PM’s office in general, in the way you could inform the office by email, say.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 22.2

      I guess we will now have push back from Key where he claims that ‘discussion with the PM’ doesnt involve him at all and is shorthand for ‘ do I look like a guy who knows whats going on’

      Its way past time to let him him spin words every which way and start saying ‘are you being tricky Pm? or ‘are you being economical with the truth?’

      • Tracey 22.2.1

        What about this

        “Who is lying mr key, you or warren tucker?”

      • Macro 22.2.2

        Key just doesn’t know any other way.
        What we see now is so ingrained he simply cannot tell the truth. His perception of reality is now so distorted by the constant web of deceit he has been spinning for the poor deluded fools such as P R, that he really has lost his grip on what is is true and what is not.

  22. disturbed 23

    cognito,

    He is following the Hitler plan to the tee read the method they used,

    1/First take over the media.
    2/ second close down anyone who would speak against the Government
    3/ Third contain the political opponents
    4/ Forth convict and intern the dissenters.
    5/ burn any literature against the Governmrnt.

    And the rest is history.
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/goebbels.html

    Goebbels’s deeply rooted contempt for humanity, his urge to sow confusion, hatred and intoxication, his lust for power and his mastery of the techniques of mass persuasion were given full vent in the election campaigns of 1932, when he played a crucial role in bringing Hitler to the centre of the political stage. He was rewarded on 13 March 1933 with the position of Reich Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, which gave him total control of the communications media – i.e. radio, press, publishing, cinema and the other arts.

    He achieved the Nazi ‘co-ordination’ of cultural life very quickly, astutely combining propaganda, bribery and terrorism, “cleansing” the arts in the name of the volkisch ideal, subjecting editors and journalists to State control, eliminating all Jews and political opponents from positions of influence. On May 10, 1933 he staged the great ritual “burning of the books” in Berlin, where the works of Jewish, Marxist and other “subversive” authors were publicly burned in huge bonfires.

    • cogito 23.1

      Exactly, and he has been attempting to disembowel all the checks and balances that ensure and protect our democratic rights.

      Unfortunately, like Hitler, he also has an uncanny ability to survive any number of attempts at removing him… but the net is now closing fast.

  23. Grant I 24

    Both Key and Warren Tucker seem to be dancing on the head of a pin over the distinction between PM and PM’s office. The question is: Was anyone in the PM’s office when Tucker informed the office he would release documents to Slater? Most people think of an office as a building or perhaps a room with a table, some computers, a photocopier and waste paper basket. Am I assuming too much to think that there would have been some people in the PM’s office at the time when he informed the PM’s office he was releasing material. Or did he just stand in the doorway and shout into an empty room? Tucker has already said there was no written correspondence. If it wasn’t John Key that he spoke to about this then who was it that he informed?

  24. Raa 25

    Dear Felix, are you seriously accusing our Prime Minister of being a serial confabulator ?

    You miss one thing .. it is standard practice in the circles he moves in.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/08/eric-margolis/empire-of-death-and-lies/

  25. Hack Kens Joy 26

    Hummm, me thinks a careful look at the Governments

    1. CCTV footage of the office over that period (and travel… License plate capture recognition software)
    2. Computer communications (typically blackberry encryption end to end unfortunately)
    3. Analysis of GPs records of staffers phones
    4. Other Comms devices (private ones, just ask Vodaphone about FORK)
    5. Staff who were employed at the time (comings and goings etc etc….)
    6. Swipe card log in details/access
    7. Meeting agendas/minutes
    8. OIA of all files generated within =/-20days of the event happening, even more
    9. Outlook calender etc etc
    10. There should be a log for sign off etc.

    Might be in order.

    A lovely Little bit of social network analysis

    The OIA process, literally, stuff can get lost in migration (I’m not talking birds)

    Oh, thats right you can, no one is allowed to as you cant investigate yourself can you….. bugga

  26. freedom 27

    The Chief Ombudsman has apparently decided that for herself and others who run the country, the proper use of language, integrity and professionalism in their high paying roles are no longer relevant to the running of our country. It appears that what people say and what is recorded and what is put into official documentation to facilitate the proper functioning of our nation is all kind of a hit ‘n miss affair that only means what you want it to mean until you need it to mean something else.

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbpol/1026595037-goff-says-key-should-resign-after-sis-information-bungle

    • ghostwhowalksnz 27.1

      Now Wakem is saying ‘she didnt write the letter’ and ‘discussion’ was loosely used.

      In other words when we get caught out we just lie even more since thats they way things work in #teamkey

      • yeshe 27.1.1

        and of course, Key became conveniently away in Hawaii while the shit came out .. maybe that is why it had to be rushed for Slater so it could come out while Key was away ( as per usual when the toxic stuff turns up).

        @freedom .. awesome comment !!

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    16 mins ago
  • Genius from google
    PacMan on google maps. I'm guessing for today only. Complete genius. Sweet! Just click on the PacMan logo on the bottom left and you're off. The Courtenay Place end of Wellington is easier to play than the Parliament end.… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    18 mins ago
  • Hard News: The GCSB and the consequences of mass surveillance
    Fewer whistleblowers, more corruption, less stability.That's the assessment of longtime Pacific journalist Jason Brown of the impact of the revelation that the GCSB has been conducting "full take" collection of communications in Samoa, Fiji, Solomon Islands and other Pacific nations… ...
    24 mins ago
  • Paid Parental leave increases – but more work needed
    Workers are pleased that, from today, paid parental leave increases from 14 to 16 weeks, but unfortunately New Zealand is still well behind the support that other countries offer to new parents, the Council of Trade Unions said. Photo:  … ...
    CTUBy Huia.Welton
    43 mins ago
  • QOTD: snark vs smarm
    From the epic On Smarm by Tom Scocca at Gawker: Snark is often conflated with cynicism, which is a troublesome misreading. Snark may speak in cynical terms about a cynical world, but it is not cynicism itself. It is a theory of… ...
    Boots TheoryBy Stephanie Rodgers
    48 mins ago
  • Birkenhead Transport orders triple-articulated double decker bus
    Birkenhead Transport announced today that it is planning replace its entire fleet with a single triple-articulated double decker bus. The bus is 57m long and over 4m tall. The Walfisch 57 double decker triple-bendy bus. Owner, managing director and part… ...
    48 mins ago
  • The X Factor NZ: That summer feeling
    Improvements have been made, true contenders are emerging and Dominic Bowden only grows in power.   X Factor NZ judges Shelton Woolwright, Natalie Bassingthwaighte, Stan Walker and Melanie Blatt. Photo: The X Factor NZ A good X… ...
    59 mins ago
  • MPs back animal testing ban
    From left, owner of Crumpet the Rabbit Greta-Mae McDowell, Green Party MP Mojo Mathers and #BeCrueltyFree campaigner Tara Jackson. MPs have unanimously supported a ban on animal testing in New Zealand for finished cosmetic products and their… ...
    2 hours ago
  • The other missing mode
    Here at TransportBlog, we often write about “missing modes“. Auckland is shamefully underprovided with alternatives to driving, and that’s the situation that led to us developing the Congestion Free Network. The CFN calls for investment in rail, bus and potentially… ...
    Transport BlogBy John Polkinghorne
    3 hours ago
  • Why are young people in Europe joining jihadist groups?
    by Kenan Malik First it was Shamima Begum, Amira Abase and Kadiza Sultana, three schoolgirls from Tower Hamlets who smuggled themselves to Syria during their half term holiday. Then it was ‘Jihadi John’, the IS executioner who was unmasked by… ...
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    10 hours ago
  • Sea Level Rise is Spiking Sharply
    Global sea level is rising because of warming from the industrial greenhouse gas emissions we humans keep pumping into the atmosphere. The expansion of seawater as it warms, and the addition of meltwater from disintegrating land-based ice, enforce a relentless rise… ...
    11 hours ago
  • Remuera: Two Arrested After High-Speed Eagle Pursuit
    Source: New Zealand Police – Remuera: Two Arrested After High-Speed Police Pursuit Robbery suspects arrested following high speed drive Tuesday, 31 March 2015 – 7:58pm Auckland City Two men have been arrested in Remuera after driving at high speed and in… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    11 hours ago
  • Judgment day for Planet Key (the song, that is)
    From Darren Watson's website:News@ 30 March, 2015read more ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    13 hours ago
  • Keith Rankin on Subsistence and the Benefit
    Analysis by Keith Rankin – First Published on Scoop.co.nz. Rural Northland poverty in the spotlight. Image courtesy of Localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz. YESTERDAY ON RADIO NEW ZEALAND’S MORNING REPORT “Te Manu Korihi for 30 March 2015“, Mana’s Hone Harawira discussed the matter… ...
    Evening ReportBy Selwyn Manning
    14 hours ago
  • A rape joke walks into a comedy festival
    Here’s a story about stand-up comedy that shouldn’t be shocking: Adrienne Truscott’s first full-length show involves an hour of jokes about rape culture, during which time you can see her genitals. Supplied In reality though, how rape is… ...
    14 hours ago
  • Introducing: Wurld Series
    Emerging local musicians are given two minutes to introduce one of their songs and say whatever they like about themselves and their music. Wurld Series. Name: Wurld Series (Luke, Jared and James). Age: 24, 25, 30. Hometown: Christchurch.… ...
    15 hours ago
  • Tonight on Evening Report – March 31 2015
    Tonight on Evening Report we lead with a video cross to Hanoi to gauge how delegates from South East Asia, meeting on nuclear disarmament in Vietnam, have responded to news New Zealand has been spying on its trading partners. This and… ...
    Evening ReportBy Selwyn Manning
    16 hours ago
  • On The Dial – Episode 17
    This week in On The Dial, the Northland by-election, we go behind the scenes of Parliament’s Hansard office, talk to comedian Adrienne Truscott, and, of course, look back at the Cricket world cup. The National Party is promising to take… ...
    16 hours ago
  • Research on the price of protest in West Papua released – PMC
    MIL OSI – Source: Pacific Media Centre – Analysis published with permission of PMC Headline: The price of protest in West Papua – Research Image: Demotix Tuesday, March 31, 2015 West Papua is a region… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    16 hours ago
  • Photo of the Day: 50 shades….
    The new suburbia; detached buildings so close you wonder why they bother and every mood from drab to dreary. At least you can no longer hear children play… now they’ve been banned. ...
    Transport BlogBy Patrick Reynolds
    17 hours ago
  • the win in winston
    Unintended consequences has been a concept on my mind recently - some thoughts on the recent by-election in Northland.The election of Winston Peters in Northland will have unintended negative consequences for the left I think. The left as a whole… ...
    17 hours ago
  • Former Federal Agents Charged with Bitcoin Money Laundering and Wire Fraud
    MIL OSI – Source: Federal Bureau of Investigation FBI – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Former Federal Agents Charged with Bitcoin Money Laundering and Wire Fraud Two former federal agents have been charged with wire fraud, money laundering and related offenses for stealing… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • East Asia and the Pacific: Criminal Charges Filed against Protesters in Bur...
    MIL OSI – Source: United States Department of State – Press Release/Statement: Headline: East Asia and the Pacific: Criminal Charges Filed against Protesters in Burma The United States is concerned by reports that the Government of Burma has filed criminal charges… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • New steps against kauri dieback – Govt
    MIL OSI – Source: New Zealand Government – Press Release/Statement Headline: New steps against kauri dieback Conservation Minister Maggie Barry today announced the Albany Scenic Reserve in Auckland will be closed until further notice to prevent the spread of kauri… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • New steps against kauri dieback – Govt
    MIL OSI – Source: New Zealand Government – Press Release/Statement Headline: New steps against kauri dieback Conservation Minister Maggie Barry today announced the Albany Scenic Reserve in Auckland will be closed until further notice to prevent the spread of kauri… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • Law change to ban cosmetic testing on animals
    MIL OSI – Source: New Zealand Government – Press Release/Statement Headline: Law change to ban cosmetic testing on animals The Government will introduce a change to the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill to ban the use of animals for testing finished… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • NZ Government launches tax modernisation programme
    MIL OSI – Source: New Zealand Government – Tax modernisation programme launched Revenue Minister Todd McClay today released the first two in a series of public consultations designed to modernise and simplify the tax system. “Taxes are an important… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • Oh dairy me
    A couple of weeks ago, Nick Smith and the government decided to prolong the sham that is ECan until 2019. When announcing that there would be a “mixed government model”, he went on to say that democracy was “too risky”… ...
    Rebuilding ChristchurchBy rebuildingchristchurch
    19 hours ago
  • Freedom of information and tikanga
    Yesterday the Māori Affairs Committee reported back on the Hawke's Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill. The bill looks relatively uncontentious, establishing a joint Regional Planning Committee with Hawke's Bay iwi to decide on regional plans and policy statements under the… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    19 hours ago
  • National’s Bulldozer Lurches Onwards
    The National Government barely paused after their humiliating by-election loss in Northland. In his normal cavalier and dismissive manner Key shrugged off the defeat, "so I got it wrong on that one, but that's the way it goes." He he… ...
    19 hours ago
  • Feeding the watchdog?
    The Officers of Parliament Committee reported back today on the annual appropriations for the Ombudsman, and have recommended a significant increase in funding. There's additional funding to help it cope with its duties under OPCAT and the United Nations Convention… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    19 hours ago
  • Another World is Possible Essay Competition
    I'm sure lots of readers (and my fellow-bloggers) could contribute something really awesome to this competition.***********For the second time, the Labour History Project is running an essay competition to inspire debate on alternative futures.In December 2014, an OECD report ranked… ...
    20 hours ago
  • “Fair-weather” scepticism
    My old man used to label us kids as “fair-weather sailors” when we bitched about working outside during bad weather. That phrase comes to my mind sometimes when I come across people who claim to be “sceptics ” (“Skeptics”)… ...
    20 hours ago
  • Legal Beagle: Compensation for Teina Pora?
    Teina Pora is innocent.The Government, having considered the matter, apparently agrees he should not be re-tried. It is not clear whether the Government agrees he is innocent, but I suspect they don’t.With no re-trial ordered, Pora’s involvement with the criminal… ...
    20 hours ago
  • No freedom of speech in Singapore
    Lee Kuan Yew is dead, but his legacy of oppression lives on:A teenage boy who posted a video describing late founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew as a “horrible person” has been arrested by Singapore police. YouTube blogger Amos Yee… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    21 hours ago
  • Up Front: Mind Your Language
    I have to admit, I had some mixed emotions when I heard Clean Reader had been taken off the market. Delight, because the app was ridiculously stupid. Sadness, because it was hilariously stupid. I still think it's worth talking about… ...
    21 hours ago
  • Labour and the moral high ground
    Since Andrew Little began his tightrope walk regarding whether Northland voters should or shouldn’t vote Labour, there has been much philosophising as to whether a “dirty deal” did or did not go down. To my mind, quite clearly, no deal… ...
    Occasionally eruditeBy jononatusch
    21 hours ago
  • Another day, another IGIS investigation
    One of the most significant changes John Key made to the Government Communications Security Bureau Act in 2013 was to weaken the protection for kiwi's communications. Previously, the Act forbade the GCSB from doing anything to intercept the "communications" of… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    21 hours ago
  • Next stage of Beach Rd Cycleway underway
    Auckland Transport yesterday started the second stage of the Beach Rd cycleway which when finished should finally help to make the first stage as well as the Grafton Gully cycleway useful. The Beach Road walking and cycling project begins its… ...
    21 hours ago
  • QOTD: anonymous ex-TSA manager on behavioural profiling
    As reported in The Intercept, a refreshingly frank take on a facet of modern “security” measures in airports: A second former Behavior Detection Officer manager, who also asked not to be identified, told The Intercept that the program suffers from… ...
    Boots TheoryBy Stephanie Rodgers
    22 hours ago
  • Should you get your child immunised?
    In the book, Health Cheque, Geoff and I found that in terms of health, prevention is more effective than cure by a factor of four to one. So the Morgan Foundation retains an interest in the issue of prevention, which led… ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy Gareth Morgan
    22 hours ago
  • Should you get your child immunised?
    In the book, Health Cheque, Geoff and I found that in terms of health, prevention is more effective than cure by a factor of four to one. So the Morgan Foundation retains an interest in the issue of prevention, which led… ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy Gareth Morgan
    22 hours ago
  • Speaker: The Power of N – Nutrient Caps and Peak Dairy
    Chris Lewis quickly backed down from the suggestion of a dairy moratorium in the Waikato, but environmentalists won’t let it go so easily. The Waikato Federated Farmers president now insists he merely raised the notion as a “straw man” at… ...
    22 hours ago
  • At The Centre Of Attention
    Help Is On Its Way: Winston Peters storms home in Northland, but his historic by-election victory has raised a whole new flurry of political questions. IT WAS WINSTON’S FINEST HOUR. The sheer scale of his Northland by-election victory had the… ...
    23 hours ago
  • Weekly Listening: Rihanna, Jamie xx, Hudson Mohawke and more
    A revolving cast of contributors from the Music 101 and Wireless teams showcase some of the best new music releases from the past week. Rihanna's 'BBHMM'. Rihanna - 'Bitch Better Have My Money' Is there any other pop… ...
    24 hours ago
  • Bloody Bureaucrats
    David Graeber may be best remembered for coining Occupy Wall Street’s ‘We are the 99 percent’.read more ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 day ago

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  • Latest Air NZ plan carries on regional snub
    Christchurch Labour Members of Parliament have secured a meeting with Air New Zealand boss Christopher Luxon following the airline’s decision to cut its Christchurch to Tokyo summer flights.  They are also calling on the Minister of Transport Simon Bridges to… ...
    17 hours ago
  • Carmel Sepuloni back in Social Development role
    Andrew Little has reinstated Carmel Sepuloni as Labour’s Social Development spokesperson following the sentencing of her mother in the New Plymouth District Court today. “It has been a tough time for Carmel, but we both agreed it was appropriate she… ...
    18 hours ago
  • Government taking Kiwis for April Fools
    Many Kiwis will be wondering if the joke is on them when a raft of Government changes come into effect tomorrow, Labour Leader Andrew Little says. “First is ACC and National’s unwillingness to end its rort of Kiwi businesses which… ...
    21 hours ago
  • Time to show RMA housing affordability plans
    Labour is challenging the Government to reveal its plans to make housing more affordable through amending the Resource Management Act, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Labour remains willing to consider the proposals on housing affordability on their merits and… ...
    21 hours ago
  • John Key now admits no broad support for RMA changes
    John Key has now been forced to admit that he never had the broad political support to gut the Resource Management Act, says Labour’s Environment spokesperson Megan Woods. “Cornerstone legislation such as the RMA should never be changed without genuine… ...
    2 days ago
  • National’s changes leave student bodies in chaos
    The chaos created by National’s scrapping of compulsory student association membership may force the 86-year old Union of Students Association to fold, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe says. “National’s 2011 Voluntary Student Membership Act has left student associations with… ...
    2 days ago
  • Tragedy must be impetus for better training
    The Police Minister needs to explain why unsworn and inadequately trained custody officers were put in a situation of caring for a medically unwell prisoner on a busy Saturday night, Labour’s Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. Commenting on an IPCA… ...
    5 days ago
  • Government must be more transparent on investor state clauses
    The Government must be more transparent around the draft investor state dispute settlements in the TPPA, says David Parker, Labour’s Export Growth and Trade spokesperson. “Labour is pro trade, and is proud of the FTA we negotiated with China, which… ...
    5 days ago
  • Protect university staff and student voices
    The Green Party believes ensuring student and staff representation on university councils is important. National recently passed a law reducing the size of university governance councils while increasing the proportion of the members nominated by, guess who… Steven Joyce. The… ...
    GreensBy Gareth Hughes MP
    6 days ago
  • C’mon Nick what’s the truth on the RMA
     “Nick Smith has got to fess up and tell us what is happening to his much vaunted RMA reform, Labour’s Environment spokesperson Megan Woods says.  “With just a day and a half to go before the polls open in Northland,… ...
    6 days ago
  • SSC salaries sink National’s spending spin
    Massive pay rises at the State Services Commission prove National’s claims of clamping down on spending in the public sector are simply fantasy, Labour’s State Services spokesman Kris Faafoi says. “Salaries in this one department are almost $70,000 more than… ...
    6 days ago
  • We can fix Christchurch and keep our assets
    The Christchurch City Council is seeking public feedback on its proposed 10 year plan for Council revenue and spending. This is probably one of the most significant 10 year plans ever to be written by a local council because of… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    6 days ago
  • Epidemic of serious assaults in our prisons
    Labour wants stab proof vests and pepper spray for all corrections officers to keep them safe from the epidemic of serious prison assaults that are occurring around the country’s jails, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis.  “There have been five… ...
    6 days ago
  • Listen to the locals Hekia!
    Minister Hekia Parata needs to understand what consultation is, Port Hills MP Ruth Dyson says. “It means you have to listen to what people say in their submissions and then be able to demonstrate you have considered their views when… ...
    7 days ago
  • Thanking our caregivers
    Let’s celebrate and thank our caregivers. This week is caregivers’ week. It’s a chance to acknowledge the thousands of women, and occasional other person, who are caring for the elderly and disabled in our country. They hold people’s lives in… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    7 days ago
  • Mana Post shop the best outcome for community
    Labour MP for Mana Kris Faafoi has welcomed the move to place the services from the Mana Post shop to a local small business. “This is the best outcome for the community we could ask for. All the vital services… ...
    7 days ago
  • Labour looks to put the tea back into entitlements
    Labour is moving to restore the rights of Kiwis to take tea and rest breaks, Leader Andrew Little says. “Within months of the Government’s Employment Relations Amendment Bill becoming law we are already seeing some of our largest companies, including… ...
    7 days ago
  • Desperate money grab to keep Ruataniwha afloat
    The Hawke’s Bay Regional Investment Company’s decision to borrow $4 million to keep the Ruataniwha project afloat is a case of throwing ratepayer’s good money after bad, says Labour’s Water spokesperson Meka Whaitiri and Napier MP Stuart Nash.   “This bridging… ...
    1 week ago
  • Roundup: UN finds it “probably” causes cancer
    At last the UN has spoken out against the widely-used weedkiller Roundup. The UN’s International Agency for Research on Cancer has identified glyphosate, the principle ingredient in Roundup, as a probable carcinogen. They also include as probable carcinogens the insecticides… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • World water day: eight rivers in one day
    Our photo journey started by the Waioweka (also known as Waioeka) River which flows from Te Urewera to Opotiki, and is surrounded by beautiful forest. The water looked great! Kopeopeo Canal It contrasted greatly with the Kopeopeo Canal near Whakatane,… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • We all benefit when education meets everyone’s needs
    As Dyslexia week comes to a close,  Dyslexia NZ have reminded us that around 10% of our citizens are dyslexic and are entitled to better support. One of their strongest arguments is that failure to provide identification and support for… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • Big change starts small
    Today marks Race Relations Day in New Zealand. Race Relations Day coincides with the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.  The United Nations General Assembly chose this day as it marks the day in 1960 when 69 peaceful… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Israel, Palestine and the question of statehood
    The knife-edge election in Israel complicates the Middle East situation, even more than usual. The Prime Minister-elect, Binyamin Netanyahu, is moving to form a government. Netanyahu has indicated that, during his term, a Palestinian state would not be established. That… ...
    GreensBy Kennedy Graham MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Christchurch transport goes backwards
    The Green Party has a vision of a liveable, accessible Christchurch with a sense of identity and strong connected communities. Instead, 2013 census figures released by Statistics New Zealand reveal a fractured community, and tell a story of frustrated Christchurch commuters… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Super Fund should divest $140 million in high risk coal
    The Green Party is calling on the New Zealand Super Fund to divest their $140 million investment in coal companies that are vulnerable to becoming financially stranded according to a damning new report from Oxford University. The Smith School of… ...
    GreensBy Russel Norman MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Learn to count with Mark Osborne: 0 + 1 = ?
    The adage about the first casualty of war being truth is one that might often be applied to the political battle for hearts and minds, and of course votes. A rather unfortunate example of this has been arriving in the… ...
    GreensBy David Clendon MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Is it still a safety net when the holes are this big?
    Over the last few weeks I’ve been wondering how safe our income support system is for people, especially those with cognitive or learning disabilities. I’ve been trying to support a young man who was severely injured in a workplace accident… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Pasifika – protecting the Pacific needed now more than ever.
    Over the weekend thousands of Aucklanders flocked to celebrate our city’s diverse Pacific communities and cultures at the annual Pasifika festival and the Greens were there to join them. The Pasifika festival has been held every year for 23… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Sounds Stakeholders Seek a Sustainable Future
    It was heartening to see a large number of people who care about the Marlborough Sounds come together at the Marlborough Marine Futures’ forum in Picton on March 8. Fellow Green MP Steffan Browning, who lives in Marlborough, and I… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    3 weeks ago

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