PM Jacinda Ardern has confirmed our gun laws will change. The terrorist had 5 guns, including two semi automatic weapons. He has a valid NZ gun licence.
The gunman is an Australian who has lived in NZ on and off. He has left a racist, anti-immigrant manifesto in which he praises mass murderer Anders Breivek and Trump supporter Candace Owens.
Solidarity has been shown by world leaders, including the Queen, and Donald Trump, who as usual, showed a complete lack of self awareness, saying a few minutes ago that he didn’t think white supremacy was a rising problem.
I woke up this morning to many messages from friends and family overseas. This attack has shocked the world. One positive feature of the response is that solidarity has been shown from people of all faiths, which suggests the terrorists have instantly failed in their objective to split and divide us.
If you are like me, this morning you’re angry, tearful and confused about how to react. But I know this much; solidarity and aroha will always win.
I imagine she’s already had buy in from the opposition as well as her coalition partners. Bridges is on the same flight to Chch as Ardern this morning. I doubt he’s going to land at the airport and announce National oppose doing something practical to make NZ safer.
I’m more concerned how this guy slipped through the net and wasn’t picked up as an unbalanced nut.
All systems can be spoofed. That is just playing with the probabilities – and fails as a strategy when the gun lobby groups eat away at it. Just look at the current strategies that the gun companies have been using in aussie to get around their post-Tasmania shooting.
Semi-automatic weapons allow even untrained fools to kill and injure a lot people very quickly. If this dickhead had to work a bolt each round, then he’d have been jumped quickly and the weapon taken away from him, as eventually happened.
The real issue here is that there are semi-automatic weapons available. They just need to be destroyed and not allowed on the market. That is a better way of playing the probabilities with the dickheads. That will reduce any death and injury rates.
It is also a lot harder to wrangle around a full ban
According to someone who read the killers manifesto
He hopes that his actions and his choice of firearms will cause further firearm restrictions and force firearms owners to take a side noting that they do little to protect the erosion of their rights.
Then again, Gun owners might see that it’s a good idea and happily relinquish the semi-automatic guns they own, as happened (after some minor grumbling) in Australia after the Port Arthur Massacre.
Seems likely, as to not give the bastards what they want.
The $100m funding boost our spy’s got was mostly for infrastructure and hardware which is fine for after the fact. To actually have a readable report in real time you need analyst making those reports. That just leaves a weapons ban as the most likely course of action.
Clearly another who doesn’t understand the failure that’s was Howard’s Gun Laws.
Read the ABS reports for gun crimes in Australia
Those of the far left just don’t understand attacking law abiding citizens has never worked throughout history.
Prohibition on guns is fine by the far left, but prohibit drugs that would be against their human rights. How many people are killed and injured on our roads through drivers under the influence of drugs in NZ every year, or how many woman and children subjected to physical violence due to drug use each year. How many drug overdose deaths each year, how many self harm incidents each years induced by drugs, how many psychiatric admissions each year by drugs….and the list goes on
That’s right, ban guns, not drugs….wake up you stoners
”Police Association president Greg O’Connor also believed a mass shooting was “inevitable”, telling MPs police had noticed a massive increase in the number of firearms among “those who simply should not have them”.
“We’ve already had mass killings, there are mass killings happening in the United States, we would be naive to think we’re not going to have one here.”‘
“We have an opportunity in this country not to go down the American path.”
Those were the words of former Australian Prime Minister John Howard before he radically changed Australia’s gun laws and – many believe – rid the country of gun violence on a large scale.
You will already be hearing some Kiwis clutching their gun rights. We have to decide which ideals we really follow in NZ. Are we actually clean and green? Are we actually peaceful and safe? Which country do we use as a model for our future?
Hi might just not have been a ‘certified nut’ but rather passed all check and balances had a good laugh at us and our little laws and went on to kill unarmed praying people in a house of worship.
so yes, maybe in NZ we don’t need semi automatics to go hunting?
By making some controversial announcement, she is effectively deflecting attention away from the fact the incompetent Government SHE LEADS have failed the NZ people and allowed this event to occur.
Sure the alleged terrorist pulled the trigger, but it was Ms Photopportnity and the Intelligence and Police she and her responsible Ministers that failed to identify this person as a risk.
I mean the alleged terrorist didn’t exactly hide his intentions, and had been posting regularly on social media for weeks.
As taxpayers we pay multi millions annually to our intellegence and Police services, and they can’t even see him when he’s standing in plain view.
No the Prime Minister failed the NZ people again, she is the boss so the buck stops with her.
Haven’t heard any talk of her sacking the relevant Government Ministers for Intellegence services or Police for gross neglect…no let’s just blame the guns.
will she launch a Royal Commission into how this could have occurred, given all the resources at her Governments disposal.
The PM current verbal flatulence on changing gun laws is nothing more than a smoke screen to press home her Marxist agendas and won’t change a thing for the security of the NZ people.
I suppose the guns sideshow doesn’t work for her, she could get her spin doctors to trot out more family photos for the woman’s magazines.
Gun laws are just another excuse to deflect attention from her Govenments failures.
You can put up all the defences you like to protect the PM, as all the gun laws in the world don’t stop terrorists. Just look up the Lindt cafe and Parramatta police HQ murders. Both incidents by Muslim males, both having no firearms licences, both firearms used were illegal.
Criminals, terrorists etc will always get their hand on illegal firearms
Changing our national laws only makes 1/5 of our population who are law abiding citizens the scapegoats for the Governments failure to identify this terrorist.
the Governments failure to identify this terrorist.
Domestic terrorists who don’t do stupid things that put them on police/security service radar can’t be stopped by anything other then old fashioned dumb luck. And police and security services can’t track people they’ve never heard of.
In reality, counter terrorism isn’t like the movies but hey, I’m sure there’s something new over on NetFlix to stroke yourself over.
Relating to or involving the doctrines or principles of the Hindu or Buddhist tantras, in particular the use of mantras, meditation, yoga, and ritual.
‘tantric yoga’
It wasn’t the present Government either, putting all the terrorism focus onto ISIS and the Middle east, or focusing in on kiwi jihadi brides (not currently living in New Zealand! ) joining ISIS.
No doubt Saintarnuad is even more outraged at these fairly recent Government failures too… yeah right!
It seems you who is doing all the deflecting attention away from the public glare on our inadequate gun laws that are way too relaxed for our own good and if you think that is a “controversial” statement then it says a lot about you.
Completely incorrect, the present firearms legislation requires review in light of recent events, but not attention seeking knee jerk reactions by a desperate PM whose interests lays deflecting any blame from herself and the Government.
So you think our PM is not responsible in any way whatsoever for the recent events? Would love to hear your views on how’s she completely blameless
… the present firearms legislation requires review in light of recent events …
Good that you agree with the PM’s announcement on the need to reform NZ gun laws. That is the topic of the thread; anything else is (a) deflection from this.
It’s been a long time since I’ve been this sad, I feel like our country has been cheated and our sense of togetherness has been shattered. It is so unfair that innocent people seeking safety in what should be a safe home in this country have been let down so badly.
A few puzzles remain, what of the car and people seen driving the gunman away from the Linwood Mosque ? Sure, recall is rarely reliable in such stressful enviroments but still, a few people saw it happen.
I cannot find a reliable timeline to explain how the arsehole got across central Chch that quickly to strike a second target.
Which attack came first, and how did the white Subaru get as far as Brougham Sreet after what must have been over 30 minutes since the start of the attack.
Was it just laziness on behalf of the Police to oppose full scale person and individual gun registration the last time legislation was proposed ?
All the details of what exactly happened will of course be carefully looked at there’ll be conclusions reached and discussions and debate about those conclusions. But as far as why it happened I’m not surprised. It’s interesting the culprits are described as extreme right wing. It’s just a shame that Bridges, Bennett, Collins, Mitchell and their mates don’t have the capacity to ever consider who decides where the line’s drawn.
We also know some of the grief will move to the anger stage. I think Jacinda has given us a legitimate target for that. These weapons in the wrong hands are lethal. Australia took the opportunity to change their laws after the Port Arthur case, and we could do the same here.
As to delays in responding, perhaps it was some minutes before the police and responders realised two mosques were involved? It took some time for help to arrive.
We need to the city to mobilise now to locate the missing three year old, contribute to the fund, reach out to Muslim people with genuine support and aroha, and generally show what we are about. All genuine Kiwis care and feel terrible today.
“All kids are different. They need different information to feel safe, they look for a different level of detail and they are impacted by different parts of the story. Nobody knows your kids better than you do, so it’s important to manage the conversation based on who they are, what they already know, and what it means for them.”
Thank you for that, only this morning I for some reason realised that probably school children across NZ will turn up for the day and will have varying degrees of understanding or information on what happened in NZ on Friday, but they will hear about it and for some of them it may be the first time they have heard about it.
I know my daughter’s first inclination was that her son in some way didn’t need to know, or shouldn’t hear about the awful events in Ch Ch, to be fair I think it was an immediate instinct to “protect” her child.
The weekend has now passed and in case she hasn’t realised herself come tomorrow he will be at school I will be sending her the link to read so she can, if she has not done so, prepare him for what will no doubt be raised at school tomorrow.
This is a clear sign of a changing world now as we begin to have a more libertarian ‘diverse’ population as most overseas first world countries have had for some time and have experienced the same ‘backlash’ from extremists, though most have been historically carried out by Islamic extremists to date as other will obvious evolve.
This is the price we are about to pay for the dramatic changes in the fabric of our changing culture sadly.
How could this happen in NZ? Well as a regular on TS I notice how plugged in to the USA many are, to the extent they hardly discuss NZ at all. There have been many of these shooting accidents over there. When people get obsessed with the USA and their doings it would lead to copycat responses, from the number who are vulnerable to propaganda and outrage, eventually.
Then I notice that Radionz, and I suppose most news reporting private stations, (though I’m not sure about this), report in great detail every attack in the USA, getting the sheriff, the mothers, the colleagues, the bystanders…opinion in detailed reports during the news slot.
Then also there is always the reality of our government showing a lack of interest in NZ citizens needs as terrible holes in our welfare system show, there is a constant degradation of workers and low income lifestyles, while they encourage the rise of housing demand and prices beyond ordinary good citizens’ earning capacity to buy. Then they don’t even ensure there are good rental properties sufficient for the resulting demand from people who would once have been settled and in jobs affording them a reasonable living. Then the government has favoured cheap imports in return for export markets so much that the internal business community with jobs for people in NZ has collapsed because it can’t compete with the cheap imports flooding in and unbalancing our country’s financial standing. We live in a giant ponzi scheme, and though many won’t understand that, they see the results.
And then foreign people get let into the country as refugees. And they get looked after, and get houses. And foreign people are cutting off westerners heads. And it’s not right.
Blame the foreigners. That is basically the pathway to the atrocity we saw
yesterday. The bad stuff just keeps coming and builds up and there seems no end and the thought occurs that someone needs to do something, to show how wrong it all is….
You emphasise the points I was making OneTwo. It is a given that there will be serious matters happening in the world every moment! That means that we have to have our antennas up to catch the details but must not let ourselves
ignore our own problems, now and forecast to come, and we know that there
are big problems scientifically indicated, not just a prophesy like the daily sandwich-boarded man I saw once proclaiming ‘The End is Nigh’.
So we need to be extra bright, so many don’t want to know – have to be dragged complaining, threatening legal resort, to our truths in NZ. And TS can help by being bright and balanced. What other blog or media gives access to thought and opinion to the extent that TS does? Other blogs should be read and they gather comments, TS offers the fusion political cafe. And we care about our country, lot’s don’t, they skim across the water like those magic waterwalking insects (image below!), or they tramp across the landscape like fleeing herds of buffalo. (And I have read that the drive to flee is to get away from the cloud of stinging insects that arise in their area.)
We are animals also, with a heightened sense of our own cleverness, that is unjustified. Now that we can observe our mistakes, and our refusal to admit and think about them, we have to use our cleverness to overcome our clever deviousness.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CU8gYYkwSw
being white, being pakeha, confers zero natural superiority over any other skin colour.
It grants no natural right or privilege over any other skin colour.
It grants no higher intelligence or natural ability over any other skin colour.
It brings with it no basis what so ever to believe in supremacy based on skin colour.
What it does do however is give rise to a ignorant, deluded, sick cancerous belief within a % of the white/pakeha population that somehow skin colour creates superior rights which justifies violence.
Being white/pakeha, that deeply offends me. We don’t need that type of vile filth in our gene pool. I look forward to the day when we have purged that fucked up filth out of our DNA.
You are limiting your statement far to much.
Instead of saying that “sick cancerous belief within a % of the white/pakeha population” you should simply say that “sick cancerous belief within a % of the every racial group in the population”
It isn’t just white people. It is every group of people who will have some percentage who consider themselves to be superior to everyone else.
It is that we have to change.
yes Alwyn, every racial group has it. I just happen to be angry and disgusted that this shit exists in my race, white/pakeha.
The particular piece of trash who perpetrated the terror in Christchurch is a disgrace and abomination to his blood lines. I find ideas of superiority based on race as abhorrent, such ignorant ideas within my own race the worst.
I am a kiwi and a pakeha kiwi and bloody proud to be one. Any arsehole who comes to my country to shoot my countrymen, whatever race ethnicity or religion they are, in the name of racial supremacy offends the core of who I am and what my country does or should stand for.
As I feel at the moment, if the solution to purging this rubbish from white pakeha NZ might mean we dilute the pakeha poluation to the extent we are no longer white skinned, well, lets all get busy with inter racial marriage.
I am as my grandfather said the product of the riff raff of Europe being a mix of English, Irish, Scottish and German but being 5th generation NZ I class myself as Pakeha. I agree that these people who want to keep NZ white offends ME, I do nor feel that my culture translates the best to the Pacific, I prefer to defer to cultures that have been here for 1,000 years and at least 4,000 generations.
What I am concerned with is where we go from here. Once we recover from our grief, do we slide back into being passively a “good” country? To simply “not be racist” when what is required of us is to be outspoken “anti-racists”? I don’t want thoughts and prayers. What I want to see is bold leadership, standing up and uniting in this message: that hate will not be allowed to take root and triumph here. And to then act on that message. I need us all to be courageous and really look inwards at the fears, judgment and complacence we may have allowed into our hearts, and look outward to demand a change in the conversation. And to be that change.
If the alleged shooter was responsible for events at both locations, then perhaps he should be recruited at the Commander of the NZSASR instead of being sent to prison.
This tragic event as being reported in the media just doesn’t seem plausible.
[Go down this track and your time here will rapidly come to an end. I’ve done the trip from Deans Ave to Linwood many, many times. For a person who has no regard for human life, it is entirely possible to do the drive in the time stated by the police. TRP]
Well since you don’t know how to use a dictionary i’m guessing that google is also beyond your skill set. If you do manage to work out how to use it you can find the relevant press conference by the Police Commissioner.
I wonder if Cantabs will be able to feel so proud of the name of their rugby team still, The Crusaders, though I am kind expecting that thought to fly right over the heads of many.
It would appear the Auatralian was here because of our easier gun laws, he would not have been able to legally acquire them and then train up on them over in Oz. So he came here to buy the weapons and then train on them here – all quite legally.
Other Australians, including their government, will be aware this is now a threat to their security, not just our own.
If our gun laws had tightened up in 2017, this person would not have come here.
It’s the misfortune of those at the Christchurch mosques that he decided to make his attack here, for two reasons maybe – the time and risk acquiring such weapons illegally when back in Oz, and because of the name of the city for his homeland people church vs foreign immigrant mosque attack message.
It wasn’t only in 2017 that the opportunity was missed. The first time I remember was in 1990, immediately after the Aramoana tragedy. If Parliament had taken the opportunity immediately to tighten up the laws on the sort of weapon you could own it would have been done.
The trouble is that neither major party was willing to go it alone and as time went by, and people forgot, the impetus was lost. Both parties realised that there were a lot of one-issue voters in the country and if one party tried to put it through they might lose votes to the other side, even if the other side didn’t oppose the bill but simply sat on the fence.
The only thing to do is for at least National and Labour to agree immediately on a suitable law. Then put it through on a joint basis without either party trying to claim the credit as their own.
Winston may, or may not, sound of about it but they should simply ignore him if he does. However do it in a strictly defined way, say a simple ban and buy back of every semi-automatic weapon and pass it. Get it done by the end of the month.
If that doesn’t happen immediately it probably won’t happen at all, just as it never happened in 1990. It isn’t just old men who forget. the bulk of the public will have forgotten the raw horror of yesterday in only a few months time and all those single-issue gun owning voters will be at the front of all the politicians minds.
Get it done this month,while you can carry the whole population with you.
However I do not think Winston Peters will have a problem with this. I think you are being a little harsh, perhaps even partisan.
There are three things need changing:
1 / Banning all semi automatic sales to the general public.
2 / Limiting the size of magazines – This , however is of lesser importance if the civilian population is only allowed single shot hunting, sporting and pest eradication equipment.
3 / Rate of fire. this however will be determined to be moot if number one – banning semi automatics – is successful. Rate of fire was developed in the 19th century to provide a tactical military advantage over an enemy ; Gatling gun.
There is no place in civilian firearms for military style equipment.
There is also a fourth , – that of licensing , – then registering individual firearms – and those firearms being directly linked by registration to that licensed firearms user.
This would cut out the black market sale of firearms to criminal elements.
There are certainly other things about the firearms situation in New Zealand that need looking at.
However I believe that there is, as of today, pretty general agreement that there is no place at all for semi, or fully, automatic rifles outside the Police and the Armed Services.
Banning them in the general public’s hands is something that should be done NOW. If that was put forward immediately I believe that the great majority of the public would accept it and the firearm owners who have these things would get little or no support.
If it becomes a great big investigation into the whole system it will be argued over for years, people will forget the raw horror of this event and nothing will happen.
We will simply have the whole thing becoming bogged down in discussions about whether, while we are at it, we should discuss whether duck shooting should be banned, or deer stalking or whatever. I’m sure there will be those who will want to ban farmers shooting stock that really do need putting out of their misery and so on.
The one thing we can do right now is to get rid of semi-automatic military style weapons. Let’s really do it and not, as is the norm, just talk about it.
The you can worry about the other things.
I don’t know who said it first but I’m sure you remember the comment “Never let a good crisis go to waste”. Well we have such a chance.
So bypass democratic processes, consultation and constructive functional lawful outcomes in lieu of dictorial decree.
Stalin, Hitler, Mao…any of these murderous despots names ring a bell !
It’s a very slippery slope once you start down the pathway “banning” without due process. Guns today, free speech tomorrow, next thing you know people are off to the gas chambers for simply having an opinion
Clearly you don’t understand the legal requirements and legislative process of our parliament under democratic Westminster system….neither does our PM who makes big media grab promises while the victims bodies are still warm.
its really quick sick, turning a tragedy into political opportunism.
4 Power to declare weapons to be restricted weapons or specially dangerous airguns
(1)
For the purposes of this Act, the Governor-General may from time to time, by Order in Council, declare—
(a)
any weapon (including an airgun) to be a restricted weapon; or
(b)
any airgun to be a specially dangerous airgun.
(2)
Any Order in Council made under this section may relate to any weapon or airgun specified by its name or trade name, or to any class of weapons or airguns identified by a description of that class.
(3)
An Order in Council made under this section is a legislative instrument and a disallowable instrument for the purposes of the Legislation Act 2012 and must be presented to the House of Representatives under section 41 of that Act.
Like I said, you clearly don’t understand how legislation work.
If you had any legislative understanding, you clearly understand the wording of Subsection 3, and the ability of The Queen (via divested powers to the Govener General) can make an Order in Council, however this Does Not become law, and is sent to the House of Representatives for review ( i.e to be discussed in senate voted upon)
Unfortunately, our Comrade Princess thinks she has powers, that simply don’t exist.
I never said, or implied, that Winston really was a racist. He doesn’t mind appearing to have a bit of a lean that way if he thinks there are any votes in it though.
However, as someone who will know precisely what the polls are saying about his parties popularity, he might decide that he will become the champion of the gun owners and come out in support of their right to own any sort of weapon they want. They will be, in his view, the salt of New Zealand society and he will be their champion.
There are, I gather, about 250,000 of them in New Zealand. If there are that many prospective votes available Winston will go to bat for them. Going to bat for the votes that is. Winston doesn’t really give a damn about any person except himself.
The terrorist claims his purpose is to provoke a reaction by Moslems which will increase domestic opposition to immigration by Moslems.
Given Islamists attacks in Europe were/are of a design to foster a sense of oppression of the Moslem community by western governments, his real purpose maybe to provoke a crackdown of social media use by white race groups to drive them underground and or radicalise them. Already there are calls to regard these groups the same as Islamist ones who have been barred from social media.
I’ve been tough on this government. But today I’m glad Ardern is PM.
Yesterday and today our PM has shown real class. In particular her comment in response to the trump and his glib comment about white supremacy not being a growing problem.
Asked if she agreed with him, she simply said, no.
I don’t think much of him as the Leader of the Opposition but I do think he would rise to the occasion if he were to leave out the politics unlike the POTUS …
Frankly I think that Simon did well, as did Jacinda. The only thing that does surprise me is that I haven’t heard a word from the Governor-General? Has she said anything on TV which I only watch on very rare occasions?
The Government does have a problem though in that the DHB doesn’t appear to understand the religious need to get the bodies buried immediately.
It is a cultural thing of course and the Hospital is naturally concerned for the living rather than the dead but they shouldn’t have been so slow to try and get the bodies back to the relatives.
Unfortunately it may end up in a slanging match. The relatives are already complaining about the slowness of the process and to most people not of the religion that looks a bit like ingratitude for the Hospital’s work.
The DHB is well acquainted with the cultural problems,it has more difficult circumstances with identification following the earthquakes,where (and as of now ) additional specialist pathologists have to be brought from outside including Australia
The PM provided a diplomatic response to Trump’s disingenuousness. Mia Farrow called him out with less subtlety saying , “As the President of the United States, one of your first acts was to ban Muslims. Your hateful, anti- Muslim, anti refugee words are heard around the world and can inspire the very worst in humans. You are not blameless in this slaughter.”
I want ,… my Prime Minister to enact gun laws against semi automatics and to relegate them only into the hands of our Police and Military.
I want , our Prime Minister to require all responsible NZ firearms owners who wish to own and train with pistols, carbines and hybrid firearms including semi automatics to use designated and legitimate and NZ Police vetted gun clubs as the only fit and proper place to use , train with and store and retain under safe storage practice the aforementioned arms.
Automatics and semi automatics have no place in the sporting , hunting or pest control endeavors of the civilian population of New Zealand. They are , by definition, only the preserve of tactical military application and in the case of the NZ Police , a means of suppression of offenders until such time as apprehension.
I move that all such firearms and their variants and hybrid capacity excepting those used for legitimate hunting or pest control and eradication or used under strict ad vetted sports activity’s be removed from sale and banned for use by the general New Zealand public.
At least you offered “thoughts and prayers” which is more than our PM could offer.
Our religion hating atheist PM could only offer “thoughts”.
Yet it’s well noted in today’s media, that our atheist religion hating PM was wrapping herself up in a Muslim headscarf for a photo opportunity with Muslim families.
So what is it PM, full time atheist unless there is some shallow photo opportunity…pathetic
This PM has no respect, just blatant media opportunism.
And clearly if she understood Islam, she would know that faith regards her lifestyle and morality far more judgementally than other mainstream religions. Moderate followers of Islam would laugh at her as a joke, hard liners however would be considerably more critical in there critique of her donning a religious headscarf.
Hey, I personally don’t care what her lifestyle choices are, but just don’t insult people with hapless disingenuous gestures for a photo opportunity in front of the media.
These people has lost family and friends, they need private time to grieve loved ones, not impromptu visits from Comrade Princess with the press gallery in tow.
I think what they need most is love and support. I am really proud that as a country we are providing that and that we have a PM who is actually capable of these things.
Well, tonight’s tv news was full of coverage of Tarrant and his background. The efforts by a couple of folks here to deter discussion of that due to some criminologist not liking it obviously died a swift death. Grafton, the NSW town he was born in, features the family as a local institution: the camera showed a large sign saying Tarrant Bridge to illustrate this.
Yesterday’s narrative that he was the product of the Chch skinhead scene evaporated. First, he actually lived in Dunedin, they interviewed his neighbours (who called him friendly). Second, Oz coverage had him growing up there, so the prior report that he grew up here seems wrong. They said he’d travelled to many different countries in the past seven years since his father died. Inheritance explains that lack of need to work.
Now the cops reckon he was both shooters. No explanation of why the other people were arrested, so we await clarification of Paul Buchanan’s reference to a cell of ten. The cops will check that out in regard to adding the charge of terrorism to murder. Whether his manifesto advocated shooting of muslims is a key question re evidence.
If info on Shatpant’s background assists in rooting out more terrorists, then fair enough franky. No doubt industrious polce will look closely into the inheritance/funding issue.
Go on, you can cut straight to the end-game of all this JAQing off. I’m kinda curious what it’s going to be. A Soros-controlled false flag? Something to do with Hillary trying to undermine the Queens Rufous Loofah-faced Shitgibbon? The Illuminati?
Sadly disturbed individuals of all stripes will always be with us BUT if we continue to create the conditions that increase their prevalence we can do nothing but expect increased tragedy.
Why no state of emergency or counter-terror measures invoked? Black bag, intern & render anybody remotely connected to the toxic little man. Soldiers should be guarding all public facilities forthwith. Emboldened neo- Nazis are paying $1.10 to go again
As part of our solidarity with our Muslim brothers and sisters we should be insisting on a far more rigorous inquiry into the unlawful killing of Muslims in Afghan villages
The Hit and Run saga is state sanctioned terrorism
From what i have read Brenton Tarrant was from a poor family in Australia where his father was a ‘bin collector’ so he died before his son was to finish school obviously to support his mother and sister, and worked at a fitness coach at the local gym so he had issues then.
We do know from NZ school admin’s here that the study they made recently showed children need some government assistance to complete school curriculum to get a real career, so he probably was failed here by the system after his father died of asbestos cancer it says in his history.
Tarrant’s family in Grafton, Australia
Tarrant’s father, Rodney Tarrant, died of cancer at age 49 in April 2010, according to an obituary The Daily Examiner in Grafton. He was described as a “dedicated family man” and “competitive athlete.” According to the obituary, Tarrant’s father separated from his mother when he was young.
Tarrant’s family is currently “assisting and cooperating” with investigations from Grafton, nearly 400 miles north of Sydney, local police told CNN.
Apart from the gun control aspect, Australia owns this atrocity as far as I’m concerned. The guy was an Australian citizen, not in the country very long, and not radicalized here.
Maybe we should be considering our diplomatic relations with them especially in context of their deportation policy towards us.
This is a copy of a post I also posted as a comment elsewhere and thought it needed to be said here also:
The so-called Muslims Terrorists who commit Murder are actually just Right-Wing Fascists flying a false flag. The so-called Cristian Terrorists who are committing murder are also Fascists flying a false flag. It is time that the war on Terror is targeted against the true enemy that is these Fascists no matter what false flag they are flying and religious groups they claim to belong to. Arrest all those who facilitate and radicalize all these Fascists.
I’ve just had my dentist’s assistant cancel an appointment because my dentist is in Christchurch to help identify bodies. She is a forensic expert. Such a hideous thought that this is necessary.
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Barrie Saunders writes – Dear Paul As the new Minister of Media and Communications, you will be inundated with heaps of free advice and special pleading, all in the national interest of course. For what it’s worth here is my assessment: Traditional broadcasting free to air content through ...
Many criticisms are being made of the Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill, including by this writer. But as with everything in politics, every story has two sides, and both deserve attention. It’s important to understand what the Government is trying to achieve and its arguments for such a bold reform. ...
Peter Dunne writes – The great nineteenth British Prime Minister, William Gladstone, once observed that “the first essential for a Prime Minister is to be a good butcher.” When a later British Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, sacked a third of his Cabinet in July 1962, in what became ...
Ele Ludemann writes – New Zealanders had the OECD’s second highest tax increase last year: New Zealanders faced the second-biggest tax raises in the developed world last year, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) says. The intergovernmental agency said the average change in personal income tax ...
We all know something’s not right with our elections. The spread of misinformation, people being targeted with soundbites and emotional triggers that ignore the facts, even the truth, and influence their votes.The use of technology to produce deep fakes. How can you tell if something is real or not? Can ...
This video includes conclusions of the creator climate scientist Dr. Simon Clark. It is presented to our readers as an informed perspective. Please see video description for references (if any). This year you will be lied to! Simon Clark helps prebunk some misleading statements you'll hear about climate. The video includes ...
It is all very well cutting the backrooms of public agencies but it may compromise the frontlines. One of the frustrations of the Productivity Commission’s 2017 review of universities is that while it observed that their non-academic staff were increasing faster than their academic staff, it did not bother to ...
Buzz from the Beehive Two speeches delivered by Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters at Anzac Day ceremonies in Turkey are the only new posts on the government’s official website since the PM announced his Cabinet shake-up. In one of the speeches, Peters stated the obvious: we live in a troubled ...
1. Which of these would you not expect to read in The Waikato Invader?a. Luxon is here to do business, don’t you worry about thatb. Mr KPI expects results, and you better believe itc. This decisive man of action is getting me all hot and excitedd. Melissa Lee is how ...
…it has a restricted jurisdiction which must not be abused: it is not an inquisitionNOTE – this article was published before the High Court ruled that Karen Chhour does not have to appear before the Waitangi Tribunal Gary Judd writes – The High Court ...
Lindsay Mitchell writes – One of reasons Oranga Tamariki exists is to prevent child neglect. But could the organisation itself be guilty of the same?Oranga Tamariki’s statistics show a decrease in the number and age of children in care. “There are less children ...
David Farrar writes: Graeme Edgeler wrote in 2017: In the first five years after three strikes came into effect 5248 offenders received a ‘first strike’ (that is, a “stage-1 conviction” under the three strikes sentencing regime), and 68 offenders received a ‘second strike’. In the five years prior to ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has surprised everyone with his ruthlessness in sacking two of his ministers from their crucial portfolios. Removing ministers for poor performance after only five months in the job just doesn’t normally happen in politics. That’s refreshing and will be extremely ...
TL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the two days to 6:06am on Thursday, April 25:Politics: PM Christopher Luxon has set up a dual standard for ministerial competence by demoting two National Cabinet ministers while leaving also-struggling ...
Hi,Today I mainly want to share some of your thoughts about the recent piece I wrote about success and failure, and the forces that seemingly guide our lives. But first, a quick bit of housekeeping: I am doing a Webworm popup in Los Angeles on Saturday May 11 at 2pm. ...
It is hard to see what Melissa Lee might have done to “save” the media. National went into the election with no public media policy and appears not to have developed one subsequently. Lee claimed that she had prepared a policy paper before the election but it had been decided ...
Open access notablesIce acceleration and rotation in the Greenland Ice Sheet interior in recent decades, Løkkegaard et al., Communications Earth & Environment:In the past two decades, mass loss from the Greenland ice sheet has accelerated, partly due to the speedup of glaciers. However, uncertainty in speed derived from satellite products ...
Buzz from the Beehive A statement from Children’s Minister Karen Chhour – yet to be posted on the Government’s official website – arrived in Point of Order’s email in-tray last night. It welcomes the High Court ruling on whether the Waitangi Tribunal can demand she appear before it. It does ...
Mr Bombastic:Ironically, the media the academic experts wanted is, in many ways, the media they got. In place of the tyrannical editors of yesteryear, advancing without fear or favour the interests of the ruling class; the New Zealand news media of today boasts a troop of enlightened journalists dedicated to ...
It's hard times try to make a livingYou wake up every morning in the unforgivingOut there somewhere in the cityThere's people living lives without mercy or pityI feel good, yeah I'm feeling fineI feel better then I have for the longest timeI think these pills have been good for meI ...
In 1974, the US Supreme Court issued its decision in United States v. Nixon, finding that the President was not a King, but was subject to the law and was required to turn over the evidence of his wrongdoing to the courts. It was a landmark decision for the rule ...
Every day now just seems to bring in more fresh meat for the grinder.In their relentlessly ideological drive to cut back on the “excessive bloat” (as they see it) of the previous Labour-led government, on the mountains of evidence accumulated in such a short period of time do not ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Megan Valére SosouMarket gardening site of the Itchèléré de Itagui agricultural cooperative in Dassa-Zoumè (Image credit: Megan Valère Sossou) For the residents of Dassa-Zoumè, a city in the West African country of Benin, choosing between drinking water and having enough ...
Buzz from the Beehive Melissa Lee – as may be discerned from the screenshot above – has not been demoted for doing something seriously wrong as Minister of ...
Morning in London Mother hugs beloved daughter outside the converted shoe factory in which she is living.Afternoon in London Travelling writer takes himself and his wrist down to A&E, just to be sure. Read more ...
Mike Grimshaw writes – The recent announcement of the University Advisory Group, chaired by Sir Peter Gluckman, makes very clear where the Government’s focus and priorities lie. The remit of the Advisory Group is that Group members will consider challenges and opportunities for improvement in the university sector including: ...
Eric Crampton writes – The Reserve Bank of New Zealand desperately wants to find reasons to have workstreams in climate change. It makes little sense. They’ve run another stress test on the banks looking to see if they could find a prudential regulation case. They couldn’t. They ...
Rob MacCullough writes – Pundits from the left and the right are arguing that National’s Fast Track Bill that is designed to speed up infrastructure decisions could end up becoming mired in a cesspool of corruption. Political commentator ...
Looking at the headlines this morning it’s hard to feel anything other than pessimistic about the future of humanity.Note that I’m not speaking about the future of mankind, but the survival of our humanity. The values that we believe in seem to be ebbing away, by the day.Perhaps every generation ...
Swabbing mixed breed baby chicks to test for avian influenzaUh oh. Bird flu – often deadly to humans – is not only being transmitted from infected birds to dairy cows, but is now travelling between dairy cows. As of last Friday, Bloomberg News reports, there were 32 American dairy herds ...
On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
What is it with the mining industry? Its not enough for them to pillage the earth - they apparently can't even be bothered getting resource consent to do so: The proponent behind a major mine near the Clutha River had already been undertaking activity in the area without a ...
Photo # 1 I am a huge fan of Singapore’s approach to housing, as described here two years ago by copying and pasting from The ConversationWhat Singapore has that Australia does not is a public housing developer, the Housing Development Board, which puts new dwellings on public and reclaimed land, ...
Buzz from the Beehive Reactions to news of the government’s readiness to make urgent changes to “the resource management system” through a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) suggest a balanced approach is being taken. The Taxpayers’ Union says the proposed changes don’t go far enough. Greenpeace says ...
I’m starting to wonder if Anna Burns-Francis might be the best political interviewer we’ve got. That might sound unlikely to you, it came as a bit of a surprise to me.Jack Tame can be excellent, but has some pretty average days. I like Rebecca Wright on Newshub, she asks good ...
Chris Trotter writes – Willie Jackson is said to be planning a “media summit” to discuss “the state of the media and how to protect Fourth Estate Journalism”. Not only does the Editor of The Daily Blog, Martyn Bradbury, think this is a good idea, but he has also ...
Graeme Edgeler writes – This morning [April 21], the Wellington High Court is hearing a judicial review brought by Hon. Karen Chhour, the Minister for Children, against a decision of the Waitangi Tribunal. This is unusual, judicial reviews are much more likely to brought against ministers, rather than ...
Both of Parliament’s watchdogs have now ripped into the Government’s Fast-track Approvals Bill. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s political economy and beyond on the morning of Tuesday, April 23 are:The Lead: The Auditor General,John Ryan, has joined the ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Sarah SpengemanPeople wait to board an electric bus in Pune, India. (Image credit: courtesy of ITDP) Public transportation riders in Pune, India, love the city’s new electric buses so much they will actually skip an older diesel bus that ...
The infrastructure industry yesterday issued a “hurry up” message to the Government, telling it to get cracking on developing a pipeline of infrastructure projects.The hiatus around the change of Government has seen some major projects cancelled and others delayed, and there is uncertainty about what will happen with the new ...
Hi,Over the weekend I revisited a podcast I really adore, Dead Eyes. It’s about a guy who got fired from Band of Brothers over two decades ago because Tom Hanks said he had “dead eyes”.If you don’t recall — 2001’s Band of Brothers was part of the emerging trend of ...
Buzz from the Beehive The 180 or so recipients of letters from the Government telling them how to submit infrastructure projects for “fast track” consideration includes some whose project applications previously have been rejected by the courts. News media were quick to feature these in their reports after RMA Reform Minister Chris ...
It would not be a desirable way to start your holiday by breaking your back, your head, or your wrist, but on our first hour in Singapore I gave it a try.We were chatting, last week, before we started a meeting of Hazel’s Enviro Trust, about the things that can ...
Calling all journalists, academics, planners, lawyers, political activists, environmentalists, and other members of the public who believe that the relationships between vested interests and politicians need to be scrutinised. We need to work together to make sure that the new Fast-Track Approvals Bill – currently being pushed through by the ...
Feel worried. Shane Jones and a couple of his Cabinet colleagues are about to be granted the power to override any and all objections to projects like dams, mines, roads etc even if: said projects will harm biodiversity, increase global warming and cause other environmental harms, and even if ...
Bryce Edwards writes- The ability of the private sector to quickly establish major new projects making use of the urban and natural environment is to be supercharged by the new National-led Government. Yesterday it introduced to Parliament one of its most significant reforms, the Fast Track Approvals Bill. ...
Michael Bassett writes – If you think there is a move afoot by the radical Maori fringe of New Zealand society to create a parallel system of government to the one that we elect at our triennial elections, you aren’t wrong. Over the last few days we have ...
Without a corresponding drop in interest rates, it’s doubtful any changes to the CCCFA will unleash a massive rush of home buyers. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: The six things that stood out to me in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, poverty and climate on Monday, April 22 included:The Government making a ...
Sunday was a lazy day. I started watching Jack Tame on Q&A, the interviews are usually good for something to write about. Saying the things that the politicians won’t, but are quite possibly thinking. Things that are true and need to be extracted from between the lines.As you might know ...
In our Weekly Roundup last week we covered news from Auckland Transport that the WX1 Western Express is going to get an upgrade next year with double decker electric buses. As part of the announcement, AT also said “Since we introduced the WX1 Western Express last November we have seen ...
TL;DR: The six key events to watch in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the week to April 29 include:PM Christopher Luxon is scheduled to hold a post-Cabinet news conference at 4 pm today. Stats NZ releases its statutory report on Census 2023 tomorrow.Finance Minister Nicola Willis delivers a pre-Budget speech at ...
A listing of 29 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 14, 2024 thru Sat, April 20, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week hinges on these words from the abstract of a fresh academic ...
The ability of the private sector to quickly establish major new projects making use of the urban and natural environment is to be supercharged by the new National-led Government. Yesterday it introduced to Parliament one of its most significant reforms, the Fast Track Approvals Bill. The Government says this will ...
This is a column to say thank you. So many of have been in touch since Mum died to say so many kind and thoughtful things. You’re wonderful, all of you. You’ve asked how we’re doing, how Dad’s doing. A little more realisation each day, of the irretrievable finality of ...
Identifying the engine type in your car is crucial for various reasons, including maintenance, repairs, and performance upgrades. Knowing the specific engine model allows you to access detailed technical information, locate compatible parts, and make informed decisions about modifications. This comprehensive guide will provide you with a step-by-step approach to ...
Introduction: The allure of racing is undeniable. The thrill of speed, the roar of engines, and the exhilaration of competition all contribute to the allure of this adrenaline-driven sport. For those who yearn to experience the pinnacle of racing, becoming a race car driver is the ultimate dream. However, the ...
Introduction Automobiles have become ubiquitous in modern society, serving as a primary mode of transportation and a symbol of economic growth and personal mobility. With countless vehicles traversing roads and highways worldwide, it begs the question: how many cars are there in the world? Determining the precise number is a ...
Maintaining a safe and reliable vehicle requires regular inspections. Whether it’s a routine maintenance checkup or a safety inspection, knowing how long the process will take can help you plan your day accordingly. This article delves into the factors that influence the duration of a car inspection and provides an ...
Mazda Motor Corporation, commonly known as Mazda, is a Japanese multinational automaker headquartered in Fuchu, Aki District, Hiroshima Prefecture, Japan. The company was founded in 1920 as the Toyo Cork Kogyo Co., Ltd., and began producing vehicles in 1931. Mazda is primarily known for its production of passenger cars, but ...
Your car battery is an essential component that provides power to start your engine, operate your electrical systems, and store energy. Over time, batteries can weaken and lose their ability to hold a charge, which can lead to starting problems, power failures, and other issues. Replacing your battery before it ...
In most states, you cannot register a car without a valid driver’s license. However, there are a few exceptions to this rule. Exceptions to the RuleIf you are under 18 years old: In some states, you can register a car in your name even if you do not ...
Mazda, a Japanese automotive manufacturer with a rich history of innovation and engineering excellence, has emerged as a formidable player in the global car market. Known for its reputation of producing high-quality, fuel-efficient, and driver-oriented vehicles, Mazda has consistently garnered praise from industry experts and consumers alike. In this article, ...
Struts are an essential part of a car’s suspension system. They are responsible for supporting the weight of the car and damping the oscillations of the springs. Struts are typically made of steel or aluminum and are filled with hydraulic fluid. How Do Struts Work? Struts work by transferring the ...
Car registration is a mandatory process that all vehicle owners must complete annually. This process involves registering your car with the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) and paying an associated fee. The registration process ensures that your vehicle is properly licensed and insured, and helps law enforcement and other authorities ...
Zoom is a video conferencing service that allows you to share your screen, webcam, and audio with other participants. In addition to sharing your own audio, you can also share the audio from your computer with other participants. This can be useful for playing music, sharing presentations with audio, or ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
The National Government’s proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act will mean tenants can be turfed from their homes by landlords with little notice, Labour housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty said. ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson is calling on all parties to support a common-sense change that’s great for the planet and great for consumers after her member’s bill was drawn from the ballot today. ...
A significant milestone has been reached in the fight to strike an anti-Pasifika and unfair law from the country’s books after Teanau Tuiono’s members’ bill passed its first reading. ...
New Zealand has today missed the opportunity to uphold the right to a clean, healthy, and sustainable environment, says James Shaw after his member’s bill was voted down in its first reading. ...
Today’s advice from the Climate Change Commission paints a sobering reality of the challenge we face in combating climate change, especially in light of recent Government policy announcements. ...
Minister for Disability Issues Penny Simmonds appears to have delayed a report back to Cabinet on the progress New Zealand is making against international obligations for disabled New Zealanders. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions. “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says. “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today. “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
“China remains a strong commercial opportunity for Kiwi exporters as Chinese businesses and consumers continue to value our high-quality safe produce,” Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. Mr McClay has returned to New Zealand following visits to Beijing, Harbin and Shanghai where he met ministers, governors and mayors and engaged in trade and agricultural events with the New ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
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How can Jacinda Ardern announce that all gun laws are changing?
Has she got the support of NZ First or National?
I imagine she’s already had buy in from the opposition as well as her coalition partners. Bridges is on the same flight to Chch as Ardern this morning. I doubt he’s going to land at the airport and announce National oppose doing something practical to make NZ safer.
Who do you think will vote against it?
NZ First, maybe National,
There are over 250,000 gun owners in NZ, they might get a bit angry if politicians want to take away their weapons.
It’s hard work to get a firearms license these days, lots and lots of background checks, personal interviews with wives, partners, house visits etc.
I’m more concerned how this guy slipped through the net and wasn’t picked up as an unbalanced nut.
I don’t own a weapon by the way
I’m more concerned how this guy slipped through the net and wasn’t picked up as an unbalanced nut.
All systems can be spoofed. That is just playing with the probabilities – and fails as a strategy when the gun lobby groups eat away at it. Just look at the current strategies that the gun companies have been using in aussie to get around their post-Tasmania shooting.
Semi-automatic weapons allow even untrained fools to kill and injure a lot people very quickly. If this dickhead had to work a bolt each round, then he’d have been jumped quickly and the weapon taken away from him, as eventually happened.
The real issue here is that there are semi-automatic weapons available. They just need to be destroyed and not allowed on the market. That is a better way of playing the probabilities with the dickheads. That will reduce any death and injury rates.
It is also a lot harder to wrangle around a full ban
According to someone who read the killers manifesto
He hopes that his actions and his choice of firearms will cause further firearm restrictions and force firearms owners to take a side noting that they do little to protect the erosion of their rights.
Then again, Gun owners might see that it’s a good idea and happily relinquish the semi-automatic guns they own, as happened (after some minor grumbling) in Australia after the Port Arthur Massacre.
Seems likely, as to not give the bastards what they want.
The $100m funding boost our spy’s got was mostly for infrastructure and hardware which is fine for after the fact. To actually have a readable report in real time you need analyst making those reports. That just leaves a weapons ban as the most likely course of action.
Clearly another who doesn’t understand the failure that’s was Howard’s Gun Laws.
Read the ABS reports for gun crimes in Australia
Those of the far left just don’t understand attacking law abiding citizens has never worked throughout history.
Prohibition on guns is fine by the far left, but prohibit drugs that would be against their human rights. How many people are killed and injured on our roads through drivers under the influence of drugs in NZ every year, or how many woman and children subjected to physical violence due to drug use each year. How many drug overdose deaths each year, how many self harm incidents each years induced by drugs, how many psychiatric admissions each year by drugs….and the list goes on
That’s right, ban guns, not drugs….wake up you stoners
Oh dear the far left lines. Frankly law abiding citizens with military style weapons can just get over themselves.
False equivalence.
Better gun law consultation has already been done – we just need the will to act.
2017 ‘Police Minister Paula Bennett consulted with independent firearms experts, and accepted seven recommendations, but rejected 12.
“We needed to strike the right balance between public safety and the rights of legal firearms owners,” Bennett said at the time.’
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/97512128/opportunity-missed-for-nz-to-tighten-gun-control-laws
and 2016
”Police Association president Greg O’Connor also believed a mass shooting was “inevitable”, telling MPs police had noticed a massive increase in the number of firearms among “those who simply should not have them”.
“We’ve already had mass killings, there are mass killings happening in the United States, we would be naive to think we’re not going to have one here.”‘
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/83499342/mass-shooting-in-new-zealand-inevitable-without-action-on-gun-laws-mps-warned
Australia has benefited from their stand….
“We have an opportunity in this country not to go down the American path.”
Those were the words of former Australian Prime Minister John Howard before he radically changed Australia’s gun laws and – many believe – rid the country of gun violence on a large scale.
You will already be hearing some Kiwis clutching their gun rights. We have to decide which ideals we really follow in NZ. Are we actually clean and green? Are we actually peaceful and safe? Which country do we use as a model for our future?
Hi might just not have been a ‘certified nut’ but rather passed all check and balances had a good laugh at us and our little laws and went on to kill unarmed praying people in a house of worship.
so yes, maybe in NZ we don’t need semi automatics to go hunting?
BM not hard enough for this terrorist to get a gun.
It’s like suicide. The suicide rate dropped dramatically after they changed the lethally of house hold gas.
We will never prevent all terrorist acts, but we can slow them down but limiting their means………
Anyway why the hell does anyone need a semi automatic
She obviously hasn’t got yours. It why you are called a Right Wing Nut Job.
+100%
Why wouldn’t she have their support?
You mean there is another legitimate point of view?
By making some controversial announcement, she is effectively deflecting attention away from the fact the incompetent Government SHE LEADS have failed the NZ people and allowed this event to occur.
Sure the alleged terrorist pulled the trigger, but it was Ms Photopportnity and the Intelligence and Police she and her responsible Ministers that failed to identify this person as a risk.
I mean the alleged terrorist didn’t exactly hide his intentions, and had been posting regularly on social media for weeks.
As taxpayers we pay multi millions annually to our intellegence and Police services, and they can’t even see him when he’s standing in plain view.
No the Prime Minister failed the NZ people again, she is the boss so the buck stops with her.
Haven’t heard any talk of her sacking the relevant Government Ministers for Intellegence services or Police for gross neglect…no let’s just blame the guns.
will she launch a Royal Commission into how this could have occurred, given all the resources at her Governments disposal.
The PM current verbal flatulence on changing gun laws is nothing more than a smoke screen to press home her Marxist agendas and won’t change a thing for the security of the NZ people.
I suppose the guns sideshow doesn’t work for her, she could get her spin doctors to trot out more family photos for the woman’s magazines.
Wrong target.
It wasn’t the present Government that opposed sensible gun laws.
Or who set the spooks onto people that embarrassed them, ordinary citizens computers, and on harmless protesters, instead of terrorists.
BTW. Present day Labour is less “Marxist” than Muldoon. Unfortunately!
Gun laws are just another excuse to deflect attention from her Govenments failures.
You can put up all the defences you like to protect the PM, as all the gun laws in the world don’t stop terrorists. Just look up the Lindt cafe and Parramatta police HQ murders. Both incidents by Muslim males, both having no firearms licences, both firearms used were illegal.
Criminals, terrorists etc will always get their hand on illegal firearms
Changing our national laws only makes 1/5 of our population who are law abiding citizens the scapegoats for the Governments failure to identify this terrorist.
Domestic terrorists who don’t do stupid things that put them on police/security service radar can’t be stopped by anything other then old fashioned dumb luck. And police and security services can’t track people they’ve never heard of.
In reality, counter terrorism isn’t like the movies but hey, I’m sure there’s something new over on NetFlix to stroke yourself over.
Ah Joe90, the catch cry replies from the far left when the truth is too confronting…carry on like a tantric child being rude, abusive & threatening.
Stay in denial Joe90, it’s much easier for your sort to use hate speech from behind the keyboard than mounting a sound structured rebuttal.
My apologies for using too many big words you may not understand.
like a tantric child being rude
Muphry strikes!.
My apologies for using too many big words you may not understand.
Thanks for the laugh.
What a load of rubbish.
Look up where the guns used in shootings, in NZ, come from.
It wasn’t the present Government either, putting all the terrorism focus onto ISIS and the Middle east, or focusing in on kiwi jihadi brides (not currently living in New Zealand! ) joining ISIS.
No doubt Saintarnuad is even more outraged at these fairly recent Government failures too… yeah right!
Another Jacinta apologist eh Maui???
She’s been in power heading on for two years, when are you going to stop blaming the previous Government.
Face it, she’s proven to be a complete dud. There is some talent inside the Labour Party, maybe it’s time they stand up and puss this failed PM aside
It seems you who is doing all the deflecting attention away from the public glare on our inadequate gun laws that are way too relaxed for our own good and if you think that is a “controversial” statement then it says a lot about you.
Completely incorrect, the present firearms legislation requires review in light of recent events, but not attention seeking knee jerk reactions by a desperate PM whose interests lays deflecting any blame from herself and the Government.
So you think our PM is not responsible in any way whatsoever for the recent events? Would love to hear your views on how’s she completely blameless
Good that you agree with the PM’s announcement on the need to reform NZ gun laws. That is the topic of the thread; anything else is (a) deflection from this.
Unless Comrade Princess is now backing down and changed her position, Her verbatim quote was “banning”…not review or discussion
So are you suggesting she’s now changed her position since yesterday?
Where’s ya link? Not what she said at all.
Since you seem a helpful person you wouldn’t mind giving the full quote plus link, would you?
It’s been a long time since I’ve been this sad, I feel like our country has been cheated and our sense of togetherness has been shattered. It is so unfair that innocent people seeking safety in what should be a safe home in this country have been let down so badly.
A few puzzles remain, what of the car and people seen driving the gunman away from the Linwood Mosque ? Sure, recall is rarely reliable in such stressful enviroments but still, a few people saw it happen.
I cannot find a reliable timeline to explain how the arsehole got across central Chch that quickly to strike a second target.
Which attack came first, and how did the white Subaru get as far as Brougham Sreet after what must have been over 30 minutes since the start of the attack.
Was it just laziness on behalf of the Police to oppose full scale person and individual gun registration the last time legislation was proposed ?
All the details of what exactly happened will of course be carefully looked at there’ll be conclusions reached and discussions and debate about those conclusions. But as far as why it happened I’m not surprised. It’s interesting the culprits are described as extreme right wing. It’s just a shame that Bridges, Bennett, Collins, Mitchell and their mates don’t have the capacity to ever consider who decides where the line’s drawn.
Adrian, we all share your sadness and grief.
We also know some of the grief will move to the anger stage. I think Jacinda has given us a legitimate target for that. These weapons in the wrong hands are lethal. Australia took the opportunity to change their laws after the Port Arthur case, and we could do the same here.
As to delays in responding, perhaps it was some minutes before the police and responders realised two mosques were involved? It took some time for help to arrive.
We need to the city to mobilise now to locate the missing three year old, contribute to the fund, reach out to Muslim people with genuine support and aroha, and generally show what we are about. All genuine Kiwis care and feel terrible today.
I hope this helps someone
“All kids are different. They need different information to feel safe, they look for a different level of detail and they are impacted by different parts of the story. Nobody knows your kids better than you do, so it’s important to manage the conversation based on who they are, what they already know, and what it means for them.”
https://www.theparentingplace.com/how-to-talk-about/world-trauma/
Thank you for that, only this morning I for some reason realised that probably school children across NZ will turn up for the day and will have varying degrees of understanding or information on what happened in NZ on Friday, but they will hear about it and for some of them it may be the first time they have heard about it.
I know my daughter’s first inclination was that her son in some way didn’t need to know, or shouldn’t hear about the awful events in Ch Ch, to be fair I think it was an immediate instinct to “protect” her child.
The weekend has now passed and in case she hasn’t realised herself come tomorrow he will be at school I will be sending her the link to read so she can, if she has not done so, prepare him for what will no doubt be raised at school tomorrow.
I’m pleased it may help. It is a challenging conversation for us all and especially for the kids.
This is a clear sign of a changing world now as we begin to have a more libertarian ‘diverse’ population as most overseas first world countries have had for some time and have experienced the same ‘backlash’ from extremists, though most have been historically carried out by Islamic extremists to date as other will obvious evolve.
This is the price we are about to pay for the dramatic changes in the fabric of our changing culture sadly.
This is currently on the SMH website. From Waleed an Australian.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1106471346303754240
Certainly well worth while watching
Thank you – he spoke very well.
Good post thanks for putting up, well worth the 5 minutes.
How could this happen in NZ? Well as a regular on TS I notice how plugged in to the USA many are, to the extent they hardly discuss NZ at all. There have been many of these shooting accidents over there. When people get obsessed with the USA and their doings it would lead to copycat responses, from the number who are vulnerable to propaganda and outrage, eventually.
Then I notice that Radionz, and I suppose most news reporting private stations, (though I’m not sure about this), report in great detail every attack in the USA, getting the sheriff, the mothers, the colleagues, the bystanders…opinion in detailed reports during the news slot.
Then also there is always the reality of our government showing a lack of interest in NZ citizens needs as terrible holes in our welfare system show, there is a constant degradation of workers and low income lifestyles, while they encourage the rise of housing demand and prices beyond ordinary good citizens’ earning capacity to buy. Then they don’t even ensure there are good rental properties sufficient for the resulting demand from people who would once have been settled and in jobs affording them a reasonable living. Then the government has favoured cheap imports in return for export markets so much that the internal business community with jobs for people in NZ has collapsed because it can’t compete with the cheap imports flooding in and unbalancing our country’s financial standing. We live in a giant ponzi scheme, and though many won’t understand that, they see the results.
And then foreign people get let into the country as refugees. And they get looked after, and get houses. And foreign people are cutting off westerners heads. And it’s not right.
Blame the foreigners. That is basically the pathway to the atrocity we saw
yesterday. The bad stuff just keeps coming and builds up and there seems no end and the thought occurs that someone needs to do something, to show how wrong it all is….
All relevant points , gw…
The ‘world’ is an abusive environment, governments being prime movers in local and foreign abuse of human, animal, plant…
Silos nor vacuums lead to global atrocities such as these…
And as a result, global atrocities will continue on a daily basis…
You emphasise the points I was making OneTwo. It is a given that there will be serious matters happening in the world every moment! That means that we have to have our antennas up to catch the details but must not let ourselves
ignore our own problems, now and forecast to come, and we know that there
are big problems scientifically indicated, not just a prophesy like the daily sandwich-boarded man I saw once proclaiming ‘The End is Nigh’.
So we need to be extra bright, so many don’t want to know – have to be dragged complaining, threatening legal resort, to our truths in NZ. And TS can help by being bright and balanced. What other blog or media gives access to thought and opinion to the extent that TS does? Other blogs should be read and they gather comments, TS offers the fusion political cafe. And we care about our country, lot’s don’t, they skim across the water like those magic waterwalking insects (image below!), or they tramp across the landscape like fleeing herds of buffalo. (And I have read that the drive to flee is to get away from the cloud of stinging insects that arise in their area.)
We are animals also, with a heightened sense of our own cleverness, that is unjustified. Now that we can observe our mistakes, and our refusal to admit and think about them, we have to use our cleverness to overcome our clever deviousness.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CU8gYYkwSw
The Eagle has landed – More bloody foreigners – YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiWX_yYnwh0
being white, being pakeha, confers zero natural superiority over any other skin colour.
It grants no natural right or privilege over any other skin colour.
It grants no higher intelligence or natural ability over any other skin colour.
It brings with it no basis what so ever to believe in supremacy based on skin colour.
What it does do however is give rise to a ignorant, deluded, sick cancerous belief within a % of the white/pakeha population that somehow skin colour creates superior rights which justifies violence.
Being white/pakeha, that deeply offends me. We don’t need that type of vile filth in our gene pool. I look forward to the day when we have purged that fucked up filth out of our DNA.
You are limiting your statement far to much.
Instead of saying that “sick cancerous belief within a % of the white/pakeha population” you should simply say that “sick cancerous belief within a % of the every racial group in the population”
It isn’t just white people. It is every group of people who will have some percentage who consider themselves to be superior to everyone else.
It is that we have to change.
yes Alwyn, every racial group has it. I just happen to be angry and disgusted that this shit exists in my race, white/pakeha.
The particular piece of trash who perpetrated the terror in Christchurch is a disgrace and abomination to his blood lines. I find ideas of superiority based on race as abhorrent, such ignorant ideas within my own race the worst.
I am a kiwi and a pakeha kiwi and bloody proud to be one. Any arsehole who comes to my country to shoot my countrymen, whatever race ethnicity or religion they are, in the name of racial supremacy offends the core of who I am and what my country does or should stand for.
As I feel at the moment, if the solution to purging this rubbish from white pakeha NZ might mean we dilute the pakeha poluation to the extent we are no longer white skinned, well, lets all get busy with inter racial marriage.
Talking as if ‘race’ is an actual thing like you do enables these people to hold that one ‘race’ is superior over another.
100% alwyn.
End of story.
Thank you for that pragmatic and balanced opinion. I agree totally.
Me too Wild Katipo.
Alwyn is right here, as my dear departed mother taught me that “there is good and bad in everyone”.
and your skin colour is exactly?
Purple with yellow spots.
I am as my grandfather said the product of the riff raff of Europe being a mix of English, Irish, Scottish and German but being 5th generation NZ I class myself as Pakeha. I agree that these people who want to keep NZ white offends ME, I do nor feel that my culture translates the best to the Pacific, I prefer to defer to cultures that have been here for 1,000 years and at least 4,000 generations.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/384852/christchurch-mosque-terror-attacks-a-dark-day-of-grief-shock-and-unspeakable-heartbreak
A thorough background check into the idenities of all suspects please, this lunatic stuff could be a hallmark of manchurian candidates.
One shooter,two events .
One gunman is believed to be responsible for both shootings, police say.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111313938/live-terror-attack-video-christchurch-mosque-shooting-muslims-new-zealand
And you thinks that’s possible?
If the alleged shooter was responsible for events at both locations, then perhaps he should be recruited at the Commander of the NZSASR instead of being sent to prison.
This tragic event as being reported in the media just doesn’t seem plausible.
[Go down this track and your time here will rapidly come to an end. I’ve done the trip from Deans Ave to Linwood many, many times. For a person who has no regard for human life, it is entirely possible to do the drive in the time stated by the police. TRP]
This tragic event as being reported in the media just doesn’t seem plausible.
That’s as being reported by the Police if you bothered to pay attention.
It’s actually being reported by the media, the police only release a statement
If you bothered with attention to detail
Attention to detail. Like “tantric” children and NZ’s “senate”.
Well since you don’t know how to use a dictionary i’m guessing that google is also beyond your skill set. If you do manage to work out how to use it you can find the relevant press conference by the Police Commissioner.
I wonder if Cantabs will be able to feel so proud of the name of their rugby team still, The Crusaders, though I am kind expecting that thought to fly right over the heads of many.
It would appear the Auatralian was here because of our easier gun laws, he would not have been able to legally acquire them and then train up on them over in Oz. So he came here to buy the weapons and then train on them here – all quite legally.
Other Australians, including their government, will be aware this is now a threat to their security, not just our own.
If our gun laws had tightened up in 2017, this person would not have come here.
It’s the misfortune of those at the Christchurch mosques that he decided to make his attack here, for two reasons maybe – the time and risk acquiring such weapons illegally when back in Oz, and because of the name of the city for his homeland people church vs foreign immigrant mosque attack message.
It wasn’t only in 2017 that the opportunity was missed. The first time I remember was in 1990, immediately after the Aramoana tragedy. If Parliament had taken the opportunity immediately to tighten up the laws on the sort of weapon you could own it would have been done.
The trouble is that neither major party was willing to go it alone and as time went by, and people forgot, the impetus was lost. Both parties realised that there were a lot of one-issue voters in the country and if one party tried to put it through they might lose votes to the other side, even if the other side didn’t oppose the bill but simply sat on the fence.
The only thing to do is for at least National and Labour to agree immediately on a suitable law. Then put it through on a joint basis without either party trying to claim the credit as their own.
Winston may, or may not, sound of about it but they should simply ignore him if he does. However do it in a strictly defined way, say a simple ban and buy back of every semi-automatic weapon and pass it. Get it done by the end of the month.
If that doesn’t happen immediately it probably won’t happen at all, just as it never happened in 1990. It isn’t just old men who forget. the bulk of the public will have forgotten the raw horror of yesterday in only a few months time and all those single-issue gun owning voters will be at the front of all the politicians minds.
Get it done this month,while you can carry the whole population with you.
Yes indeed, and again , 100% support.
However I do not think Winston Peters will have a problem with this. I think you are being a little harsh, perhaps even partisan.
There are three things need changing:
1 / Banning all semi automatic sales to the general public.
2 / Limiting the size of magazines – This , however is of lesser importance if the civilian population is only allowed single shot hunting, sporting and pest eradication equipment.
3 / Rate of fire. this however will be determined to be moot if number one – banning semi automatics – is successful. Rate of fire was developed in the 19th century to provide a tactical military advantage over an enemy ; Gatling gun.
There is no place in civilian firearms for military style equipment.
There is also a fourth , – that of licensing , – then registering individual firearms – and those firearms being directly linked by registration to that licensed firearms user.
This would cut out the black market sale of firearms to criminal elements.
There are certainly other things about the firearms situation in New Zealand that need looking at.
However I believe that there is, as of today, pretty general agreement that there is no place at all for semi, or fully, automatic rifles outside the Police and the Armed Services.
Banning them in the general public’s hands is something that should be done NOW. If that was put forward immediately I believe that the great majority of the public would accept it and the firearm owners who have these things would get little or no support.
If it becomes a great big investigation into the whole system it will be argued over for years, people will forget the raw horror of this event and nothing will happen.
We will simply have the whole thing becoming bogged down in discussions about whether, while we are at it, we should discuss whether duck shooting should be banned, or deer stalking or whatever. I’m sure there will be those who will want to ban farmers shooting stock that really do need putting out of their misery and so on.
The one thing we can do right now is to get rid of semi-automatic military style weapons. Let’s really do it and not, as is the norm, just talk about it.
The you can worry about the other things.
I don’t know who said it first but I’m sure you remember the comment “Never let a good crisis go to waste”. Well we have such a chance.
Well said @Alwyn!
So bypass democratic processes, consultation and constructive functional lawful outcomes in lieu of dictorial decree.
Stalin, Hitler, Mao…any of these murderous despots names ring a bell !
It’s a very slippery slope once you start down the pathway “banning” without due process. Guns today, free speech tomorrow, next thing you know people are off to the gas chambers for simply having an opinion
If the “due process” involves ministerial regulation already empowered by current laws, your “slippery slope” is simply a flat plain to walk over.
And if it requires legislative change, this is why “due process” includes things like legislation passed under urgency. So again, no slope.
But if you have a large enough chip on your shoulder, the lean might make the plain look like a slope, I suppose.
Clearly you don’t understand the legal requirements and legislative process of our parliament under democratic Westminster system….neither does our PM who makes big media grab promises while the victims bodies are still warm.
its really quick sick, turning a tragedy into political opportunism.
Like I said, you clearly don’t understand how legislation work.
If you had any legislative understanding, you clearly understand the wording of Subsection 3, and the ability of The Queen (via divested powers to the Govener General) can make an Order in Council, however this Does Not become law, and is sent to the House of Representatives for review ( i.e to be discussed in senate voted upon)
Unfortunately, our Comrade Princess thinks she has powers, that simply don’t exist.
discussed in senate?
and no, it does not become “law”. It becomes a legislative instrument in force unless parliament explicitly decides to disallow it.
You might want to familiarise yourself with terms as used in the NZ system of government.
The irony is strong in this one!
100% again Wld Katipo.
Winston is not a racist at all.
I never said, or implied, that Winston really was a racist. He doesn’t mind appearing to have a bit of a lean that way if he thinks there are any votes in it though.
However, as someone who will know precisely what the polls are saying about his parties popularity, he might decide that he will become the champion of the gun owners and come out in support of their right to own any sort of weapon they want. They will be, in his view, the salt of New Zealand society and he will be their champion.
There are, I gather, about 250,000 of them in New Zealand. If there are that many prospective votes available Winston will go to bat for them. Going to bat for the votes that is. Winston doesn’t really give a damn about any person except himself.
Alwyn said “if he thinks there are any votes in it”
Yes that’s politics.
And it is not only ‘exclusive’ to Winston.
But every Politician ‘feathers their own nest’ for the future don’t they?
It’s really ‘all about the money for most politicians’- from what i see.
The terrorist claims his purpose is to provoke a reaction by Moslems which will increase domestic opposition to immigration by Moslems.
Given Islamists attacks in Europe were/are of a design to foster a sense of oppression of the Moslem community by western governments, his real purpose maybe to provoke a crackdown of social media use by white race groups to drive them underground and or radicalise them. Already there are calls to regard these groups the same as Islamist ones who have been barred from social media.
Just over 50,000 New Zealanders are Muslims.
1 out of every 1,000 Muslim New Zealanders were killed yesterday.
And another 1 out of every 1000 wounded.
I’ve been tough on this government. But today I’m glad Ardern is PM.
Yesterday and today our PM has shown real class. In particular her comment in response to the trump and his glib comment about white supremacy not being a growing problem.
Asked if she agreed with him, she simply said, no.
+1.
Can you imagine Simon Bridges mangling the multiple press conferences required?
I don’t think much of him as the Leader of the Opposition but I do think he would rise to the occasion if he were to leave out the politics unlike the POTUS …
Frankly I think that Simon did well, as did Jacinda. The only thing that does surprise me is that I haven’t heard a word from the Governor-General? Has she said anything on TV which I only watch on very rare occasions?
The Government does have a problem though in that the DHB doesn’t appear to understand the religious need to get the bodies buried immediately.
It is a cultural thing of course and the Hospital is naturally concerned for the living rather than the dead but they shouldn’t have been so slow to try and get the bodies back to the relatives.
Unfortunately it may end up in a slanging match. The relatives are already complaining about the slowness of the process and to most people not of the religion that looks a bit like ingratitude for the Hospital’s work.
The DHB is well acquainted with the cultural problems,it has more difficult circumstances with identification following the earthquakes,where (and as of now ) additional specialist pathologists have to be brought from outside including Australia
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1903/S00119/message-from-the-queen-to-the-governor-general.htm [Saturday, 16 March 2019, 12:51 pm]
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1903/S00113/message-from-the-governor-general-christchurch.htm [Friday, 15 March 2019, 5:35 pm]
Bridges has already “burnt his bridges” and is now ‘dead man walking’
The PM provided a diplomatic response to Trump’s disingenuousness. Mia Farrow called him out with less subtlety saying , “As the President of the United States, one of your first acts was to ban Muslims. Your hateful, anti- Muslim, anti refugee words are heard around the world and can inspire the very worst in humans. You are not blameless in this slaughter.”
Gotta respect Mia Farrow for that.
Really…
This would be the same MIA Farrow who protected her peado husband while he was having sexual relations with their adopted child.
Yea, what a bastion of moral fortitude she is !!!
People can be complicated.
I’m sure you’d be a massive enigma if we ever got to know you.
And trump said he like to have sex with his daughter, so there is that…
Also adam when trump asked Jacinda what could he do she said said reach out to Muslim communities with love and sympathy
Indeed, our PM was all class.
I want ,… my Prime Minister to enact gun laws against semi automatics and to relegate them only into the hands of our Police and Military.
I want , our Prime Minister to require all responsible NZ firearms owners who wish to own and train with pistols, carbines and hybrid firearms including semi automatics to use designated and legitimate and NZ Police vetted gun clubs as the only fit and proper place to use , train with and store and retain under safe storage practice the aforementioned arms.
Automatics and semi automatics have no place in the sporting , hunting or pest control endeavors of the civilian population of New Zealand. They are , by definition, only the preserve of tactical military application and in the case of the NZ Police , a means of suppression of offenders until such time as apprehension.
I move that all such firearms and their variants and hybrid capacity excepting those used for legitimate hunting or pest control and eradication or used under strict ad vetted sports activity’s be removed from sale and banned for use by the general New Zealand public.
Blerta – Dance All Around The World – YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN8kVlUIxSs
Can’t work out if your running for office, or just expecting 5,000,000 Kiwi’s to just bow down to your demands because “you want”
‘Hey hey Woodie Guthrie I know that you know’d, all the things that I’m [we’re] saying and a million times more.’
If you think people quietly praying at a mosque in a peaceful country are your enemy, then you have a very long way to go.
My thoughts and prayers are with those who have had to go through this heartbreaking tragedy.
At least you offered “thoughts and prayers” which is more than our PM could offer.
Our religion hating atheist PM could only offer “thoughts”.
Yet it’s well noted in today’s media, that our atheist religion hating PM was wrapping herself up in a Muslim headscarf for a photo opportunity with Muslim families.
So what is it PM, full time atheist unless there is some shallow photo opportunity…pathetic
There is a thing called respect. You might need to use a dictionary as you obviously have no idea of this concept.
This PM has no respect, just blatant media opportunism.
And clearly if she understood Islam, she would know that faith regards her lifestyle and morality far more judgementally than other mainstream religions. Moderate followers of Islam would laugh at her as a joke, hard liners however would be considerably more critical in there critique of her donning a religious headscarf.
Hey, I personally don’t care what her lifestyle choices are, but just don’t insult people with hapless disingenuous gestures for a photo opportunity in front of the media.
These people has lost family and friends, they need private time to grieve loved ones, not impromptu visits from Comrade Princess with the press gallery in tow.
I think what they need most is love and support. I am really proud that as a country we are providing that and that we have a PM who is actually capable of these things.
In the darkest night, the stars shine brightest.
FFS.
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1106671054708187136
Well, tonight’s tv news was full of coverage of Tarrant and his background. The efforts by a couple of folks here to deter discussion of that due to some criminologist not liking it obviously died a swift death. Grafton, the NSW town he was born in, features the family as a local institution: the camera showed a large sign saying Tarrant Bridge to illustrate this.
Yesterday’s narrative that he was the product of the Chch skinhead scene evaporated. First, he actually lived in Dunedin, they interviewed his neighbours (who called him friendly). Second, Oz coverage had him growing up there, so the prior report that he grew up here seems wrong. They said he’d travelled to many different countries in the past seven years since his father died. Inheritance explains that lack of need to work.
Now the cops reckon he was both shooters. No explanation of why the other people were arrested, so we await clarification of Paul Buchanan’s reference to a cell of ten. The cops will check that out in regard to adding the charge of terrorism to murder. Whether his manifesto advocated shooting of muslims is a key question re evidence.
If info on Shatpant’s background assists in rooting out more terrorists, then fair enough franky. No doubt industrious polce will look closely into the inheritance/funding issue.
There now appears to be some questions as to whether the alleged shooter has posted the online material himself.
More questions being raised as to how he could pull this off himself in just over 30 minutes at two seperate locations.
Christchurch central police station is under a kilometre from the mosque, what was the delay in responding???
Conflicting Witness statements in the media don’t all marry up with the suspect currently before the courts
This whole event is really becoming as questionable as it is tragic
Go on, you can cut straight to the end-game of all this JAQing off. I’m kinda curious what it’s going to be. A Soros-controlled false flag? Something to do with Hillary trying to undermine the Queens Rufous Loofah-faced Shitgibbon? The Illuminati?
Can’t be sure, but apparently Elvis was also seen in the vicinity
The headcam show the journey around HP and down bealy
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17FE1/production/_106037289_christchurch_mosque_attacks_map04_976-nc.png
Sadly disturbed individuals of all stripes will always be with us BUT if we continue to create the conditions that increase their prevalence we can do nothing but expect increased tragedy.
Why no state of emergency or counter-terror measures invoked? Black bag, intern & render anybody remotely connected to the toxic little man. Soldiers should be guarding all public facilities forthwith. Emboldened neo- Nazis are paying $1.10 to go again
Because that would be simply moronic.
The best way NZ can react is by living life as we always have, not by becoming a fearful, undignified and reactive nation like the US did after 9/11.
As part of our solidarity with our Muslim brothers and sisters we should be insisting on a far more rigorous inquiry into the unlawful killing of Muslims in Afghan villages
The Hit and Run saga is state sanctioned terrorism
From what i have read Brenton Tarrant was from a poor family in Australia where his father was a ‘bin collector’ so he died before his son was to finish school obviously to support his mother and sister, and worked at a fitness coach at the local gym so he had issues then.
We do know from NZ school admin’s here that the study they made recently showed children need some government assistance to complete school curriculum to get a real career, so he probably was failed here by the system after his father died of asbestos cancer it says in his history.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/16/asia/new-zealand-suspect-brenton-tarrant-about-intl/index.html
Tarrant’s family in Grafton, Australia
Tarrant’s father, Rodney Tarrant, died of cancer at age 49 in April 2010, according to an obituary The Daily Examiner in Grafton. He was described as a “dedicated family man” and “competitive athlete.” According to the obituary, Tarrant’s father separated from his mother when he was young.
Tarrant’s family is currently “assisting and cooperating” with investigations from Grafton, nearly 400 miles north of Sydney, local police told CNN.
Apart from the gun control aspect, Australia owns this atrocity as far as I’m concerned. The guy was an Australian citizen, not in the country very long, and not radicalized here.
Maybe we should be considering our diplomatic relations with them especially in context of their deportation policy towards us.
This is a copy of a post I also posted as a comment elsewhere and thought it needed to be said here also:
The so-called Muslims Terrorists who commit Murder are actually just Right-Wing Fascists flying a false flag. The so-called Cristian Terrorists who are committing murder are also Fascists flying a false flag. It is time that the war on Terror is targeted against the true enemy that is these Fascists no matter what false flag they are flying and religious groups they claim to belong to. Arrest all those who facilitate and radicalize all these Fascists.
This Saintarnuad clown seems like another Tarrant in the making.
I’ve just had my dentist’s assistant cancel an appointment because my dentist is in Christchurch to help identify bodies. She is a forensic expert. Such a hideous thought that this is necessary.