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Daily Review 01/03/2017

Written By: - Date published: 5:30 pm, March 1st, 2017 - 25 comments
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This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

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  1. More fires – jeepers the new norm will be difficult

    Eight helicopters are battling several fires burning out of control near Hanmer Springs.

    … the main highway through the upper South Island between Culverden and Springs Junction, State Highway 7, is closed.


    What will happen when the fuel is harder to come by – let them burn? Go old school and leave it to the locals to sort?

    • millsy 1.1

      Digging fire breaks through the bush/scrub/forest seems to be a tried and true way to prevent a fire spreading if one breaks out. In Wellington you can see the hills crisscrossed with fire breaks to ensure that if a fire breaks out, it is contained.

  2. Who pays for the helicopters, farmers? forestry owners?

    • bwaghorn 2.1

      if a farmer has caused it you bet he’ll be getting a bill . if he’s lucky his public liability insurance will cover it , but farmers have gone broke for an ill timed burn that went wrong.

      • Thanks –what if no one knows how it started?

        • bwaghorn

          i guess the government, just like they would if the hills of wellington went up

      • millsy 2.1.2

        From what I understand, if you light a fire without a permit, then you are billed for the costs of fighting it. Not too sure about the situation if there is a permit.

    • Sabine 2.2

      council will take care of the helicopter cause most of the time its rural (usually its always a forest fire which is rural and council controlled.)
      they will try to claw the expense back if criminal negligence / wrong doing. IF the farmer has a permit for a fire he/she should be good, but if he has not got a permit then it would be oncharged.
      So really its not that easy to say, as more would need to be known about the circumstances of the fire.

      • Sabine 2.2.1

        and which is also a bit strange as NZ Fire Services are reluctant to call for Helicopters as then they would have to pay for it, so they wait for a rural fire office to arrive and order / call reinforcement.

  3. Draco T Bastard 3

    Programmers are confessing their coding sins to protest a broken job interview process

    This interview style, widely used by major tech companies including Google and Amazon, typically pits candidates against a whiteboard without access to reference material — a scenario working programmers say is demoralizing and an unrealistic test of actual ability.

    Thing is, I see this type of stupidity in exams for coding as well. They take all of the tools (IDE, Google, email, etc) necessary to code in today’s environment away from us and then tell us to code. We spend all that time learning to use IDEs and searching the web because they’re necessary to do the job.

    This is just another example of where employers and education are still stuck in 19th century thinking.

    • tc 3.1

      Stupidity in the recruitment process seems to be widespread nowadays.

      • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1

        It’s like employers have a very narrow idea of how things should be and won’t accept anything outside of that. That very narrow view is reflected in National’s ‘National Standards’.

        The real big problem is that those narrow views are almost completely disconnected from reality.

    • lprent 3.2

      Half of my programming brain is in the net. I remember how to find it. There isn’the enough storage in my head to remember it…

      FFS: that was why programmars built the damn net in the first place. It was too frigging hard to get info. We had to build and use Bix, gopher, uucp, use net, etc.

      • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1

        Half of my programming brain is in the net. I remember how to find it. There isn’the enough storage in my head to remember it…

        That’s what I’m finding as I get more into coding.

        Think about what’s needed, find a solution on the net and then adapt it to the app you’re working on.

        It’s not about having everything memorised because you simply can’t memorise everything.

  4. This feels big for me

    The Supreme Court has ruled the government must honour a land deal struck in 1830s between the New Zealand Company and Māori in the Nelson region.

    …Wakatū Incorporation, representing about 4000 shareholders descended from the original Māori customary landowners, argued in court that a promise that Māori would retain one tenth of land purchased by the New Zealand Company was never upheld. The trust was also meant to exclude the iwi’s pā, urupā and cultivations from the land purchases.

    Four of the five Supreme Court judges found the Crown owed fiduciary duties to the trust, which was to reserve the land for the benefit of the Māori customary owners.

    The Supreme Court ruling overturns previous High Court and the Court of Appeal decisions.

    Chief Justice Sian Elias said there was “overwhelming evidence on the historical record that the Crown intended to and did deal with the reserve land as a trustee”.

    The Supreme Court sent the case back to the High Court to determine a remedy.


    “The Supreme Court ruling overturns previous High Court and the Court of Appeal decisions.” – I suppose that is the role of the Supreme Court – I’m not a lawyer and it seems significant.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 4.1

      Yay for the rule of law.

      National Party trash will hate this, because they hate the rule of law. The notion that their word is their bond is an inconvenience: they’ll pay lip service when it suits them.

    • weka 4.2

      That does seem significant. Weren’t the tenths also part of the deals in the rest of the SI and likewise also broken?

      • marty mars 4.2.1

        Indeed that is true – but not sure of the ramifications of this decision on that – but I’m sure some lawyery types will be looking at it very closely.

        • weka

          Looks like it might have been a factor in the Ngāi Tahu settlement.


          • marty mars

            yes not sure how it got sorted or addressed in the settlement – but it was well known.

            “The Crown undertook to set aside adequate reserves to have been approximately 10% of the 34.5 million acres sold – but this was never done. There were also disputes over boundaries, and the Crown’s failure to establish schools and hospitals, as promised. In addition, the tribe lost its access to its mahinga kai, or food gathering resources, and other sacred places such as urupa. Ngāi Tahu made its first claim against the Crown for breach of contract in 1849.”

            “These “grave injustices” based on the “unconscionable theft” by the Crown were the basis of the claim which Ngāi Tahu pursued. As well as stolen land and food sources, fisheries and forests, the claim also relates to hospitals and schools, which Crown agents had promised would be built and provided for iwi in each area when the land purchases were made.
            Dozens of breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi provisions are identified in the Tribunal’s three separate reports on Ngāi Tahu claims.
            These reports detail clear fraud and theft by the Crown, which deliberately used every available process and loophole to alienate Ngāi Tahu from its land and resources, for minimum payment.”

            Nice to have another read of the info – thanks weka

    • AsleepWhileWalking 4.3

      It still astounds me all the injustice that Maori are subjected to even today. Like…ahem…those power/utility companies who don’t pay lease agreements for putting their polls and wires over Maori land in the Kapiti area a few years back.

      Any other land owner would be approached and negotiated with, but they don’t even respect our people enough to do that. Hope y’all get a massive bill + interest.

  5. joe90 5

    Interesting times.

    Resting military coup face? pic.twitter.com/X2gns3tzIl— Jason Bainbridge (@WhileInTheWild) March 1, 2017

  6. mosa 6

    Its not drugs but SHIT WAGES that are the problem.

    But lets NOT have a national discussion about that ! it may upset people.

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