On a similar topic (crap) here's Quentin Tarantino defending Roman Polanski's rape of a 13 year old girl. My point is don't see the movie because you will support a rape apologist.
most of the reviews seem to be very positive about the movie.
Watched a trailer. Looks entertaining.
[Good evening, James. Have you figured yet who that Green MP is you were thinking about yesterday? I just checked and as it so happens, there is a spot available on the TS naughty step – Incognito]
Facts, eh! Who needs 'em! Little wonder people dismiss your claims reflexively, James. Get your act together if you want to be part of a worthwhile discussion; stick to the facts, don't put words in the mouths of others, back up your claims. Easy. Fun.
Of course it could be that very few people have visited Daily Review tonight, skewing the result. I also notice that Pucky was straight into mention of a ponytail, again, muddying the sample. Have you guys not done this sort of thing before?
Ah! The famed Billiard Ball Bat, you'll be thinking of! That bald bat. Chris T could well be a woman, of course, if she was playing on the sound of her real name: Christy. Therefore, probably not bald and maybe ponytailed. Perhaps.
You know before I even checked in here having seen this on another site, I wish I could bet mega bucks that and how this was raised. Expect more of it IMHO and I would make an offer to the National Party to show them when they show theirs which hasn't happened yet after quite some time.
Now Twyfords looking shaky with allegations at the CAA
Cant someone from Labour explain to its members that sexual harrassment is not ok, that it's a big deal, that it's not perks of the job and shouldn't be swept under the carpet
We think it might be Chris's breath, McFlock. That, along with the supposed baldness, makes him/her seem an unfortunate character; still, it's all conjecture, like his story about Labour.
Not all good, obviously but that office is not that of my leader and your description of it as a den, etc. is just silly. As for not "addressing" it, I've done so plenty of times already tonight; are you reading any comments other than your own?
There's a group of them that "hang" together elsewhere who never raised a peep about the non-existent (?) failured to appear inquiry into stuff inside the National Party, the "Tova" at the top of the story was equally predicatable and along that line there appeared to be a couple of women who were always out for a gloat re anything that coule possibly be reflected badly on the PM but then misogyny was never just an aspect solely of male behaviour.
I'm not pointing that at any of the complainants or their complaints just those carry chips on their shoulders whose sole passion is to gloat.
You know, I can't read where Labour were forced to review their investigation. It says so in the headline, but not in the article, so far as I can see; Pucky? Chris T?
Is it really that difficult for people in Labour to not sexually harass someone, I've successfully managed to not sexually harass anyone over the 45 years of my life without really even trying
Imagine how godly you'd be if you did try, Pucky! How much safer everyone would feel!
You're underselling yourself. Settling for merely not doing something is easy enough. I don't admire Judith Collins and find that an effortless thing to do but I don't expect credit for it.
Oh, one thing at a time, James. I'm firstly interested in the claim that Labour was forced to review, James. Can't find anything to back up that claim, can you??
Says you read your too much into the comments of others, Chris T.
Best you pin down exactly what other people say and mean before you fill in the gaps with your own prejudice. You've got form doing that, as has James. You mates?
Maybe so, if they are, or are not, I think some of this is the overflow from the notification from the Disqus site that "private" chat groups will be discontinued from Sept 1st – there was a strong "tradition" for a "fake" headline on there followed by general gloating via the fake "debates" that often ensued – I'll butt out now but in a few days you may recognise that I may be right.
How soon we forget the frantic denials anything was wrong in the PM's office back in 2014, when it was revealed one of his staff had been running a dirty politics operation therefrom. Cruel of you to cast us back to those unpleasant times, especially since no frantic denials anything is wrong in the current PM's office have been reported (at least, not that I've seen).
No they don't, Rosemary. "They" haven't commented on the substance of the issue, which is something very different from what you claim. James and Chris T are running the same line. What the "stalwarts" have done here is test the voracity of the claims made by the visitors from the Right who have come, glistening with gloat, to make unsubstantiated claims with the intention of whipping up anguish based on an article that seems, to my mind at least, lacking in rigour. I imagine if the matter was posted in the usual way, it would be addressed in the way you indicate wyou'd find more appropriate. James and Chris T don't quite fit the profile of respected commenters here, hence the teasing they received. In my opinion.
Sadly Robert seems to be an enabler – quite happy to ignore the sexual assaults and focused on everything and anything else trying to change the subject.
Ignoring the victims- exactly the behaviour that they are complaining about.
You run that line so often, James: if someone chooses not to discuss the aspect you want them to discuss, you attack them for what they haven't said; it's an idiotic ploy and I can see why you favour it, using it over and over, delighting only yourself (Chris T too, I suppose). James, I don't expect you'll be able to fathom what I mean, but others watching might.
Oh really, I didn't realise there was a benchmark on the continuum of shit we were supposed to reference in order to meet your required level of outrage. Obviously "a bit shit" was too low. My mistake, I'll make sure to calibrate my shitlevel properly next time and go straight to "completely apeshit" at the first glimpse of an exclusive report that has allegedly been researched for "nearly a month" and yet has no indication of approaching the people who actually conducted the investigation being complained about.
I struggled with the sight of a bunch of men politicising rape culture and using it to have a go at each other and cracking jokes. I saw it and walked away. There are reasons why women find it hard to comment here, and this thread is one of them. Not that all the comments from the men were bad. Just the general tenor of the conversation.
(btw, I thought Rosemary was pointing to your comment as the nineteenth that finally said Labour's handling was shit).
Hi, weka. It risk of further irritating you and Rosemary and any other women who "walked away" from this thread, I think it's worth exploring the tensions here. This has happened many times before and never resolved, so far as I've seen. While I see what you mean when you say the tenor of the conversation was "bad", I think others here will not have found that to be the case. That badness you perceive relates to the claims made in the article linked-to by Chris T. Therein lies the problem. The "stalwarts" here, I think, question the validity of the article and the motivations for Chris linking to it, as well as the inappropriateness of "requiring" everyone to respond to the claims made therein on a late-evening "general" thread, simply because an easily-recognised troll/irritant demanded that we did, aided by James and Puckish Rogue; need I say more? That several "stalwarts" chose instead to wait for an author from the site to post on the issue, should they deem it important enough to do so, when serious commentary would be worth investing in. Teasing and frustrating the likes of Chris and James over details of their claims isn't the same as 'politicising rape culture', though I can see that it feels that way to those sensitive to such behaviour. At least, that's my opinion. I'm sorry that the situation arose where people felt aggrieved, but I think further exploration of the thread would show that something else happened and was misconstrued, unintentionally. Does this help, weka?
(btw, I thought Rosemary was pointing to your comment as the nineteenth that finally said Labour's handling was shit).
Thank you Weka. You read that perfectly.
I struggled with the sight of a bunch of men politicising rape culture and using it to have a go at each other and cracking jokes. Me too.
There are reasons why women find it hard to comment here, and this thread is one of them. Not that all the comments from the men were bad. Just the general tenor of the conversation. Give credit where credit is due weka, it was a successful derail.
Sorry to disappoint that “Standard stalwarts” don’t meet your expectations and don’t get your approval. However, you make a grave mistake concluding from this that they think a certain way about a serious topic.
Nobody is forced here in Daily review to address points raised by others in a certain way. People can ignore issues altogether if they wish or raise their own points. Further, everybody has different ways of letting off steam at the end of a long day.
With that out of the way, I like to point out that the exclusive article linked @ 2 was not about “bullying, sexual harassment and sexual assaults” per se but about the internal review process of the Labour Party into these alleged actions. They are two different things and it is false equivalence to treat them as equal or even one and the same thing; they clearly are not.
Lastly, if we were to jump every time some click-baiting headline appears in MSM with accompanying sensationalism, we would spend more time up in the air than on the ground. With an ‘exclusive’ like this, there are basically two options: 1) wait for more info, or 2) challenge the speculative elements and demand answers and facts. A third option could be to accept it as Gospel and put your hands in the air.
The ‘exclusive’ is not an opinion piece but apparently an investigative story/report by a journalist or team of journalists. It fails on two journalistic counts: 1) balance, and 2) fairness. In addition, it is poorly written; one sentence appeared twice, for example.
Please read my comment to James @ 2.4.3 and please be careful how you choose your words here on TS. I have edited your comment to show you what I mean.
Do you know what allegations are and what alleged means? It is even in the headline so it is obviously an important distinction and qualifier and it appears 10 times in the piece. I wonder why that might be.
Women who walk away – are probably very wise. Sometimes there is more heat than light. Banning James and Chris T and some others who are not interested in thinking about the problems of our time and trying to find solutions, but just stirring and upsetting, would be a useful action. And women who think as victims and want sympathy and agreement with everything they say, they may still walk away with feelings hurt, but not so often and not too stay away feeling doubly victimised.
There would be less of this whirlpool of attacks, yah-boo child stuff at the level of you've got nits, which take up a lot of the time of earnest, sincere commenters (and moderators). Why do you allow such people to do this when you could give them bans for a decent length of time encouraging the commenters who despise what goes on as above, to come back? I miss them, and their range of opinions that were worth reading unlike the dedicated deadheads of the RW that we foster so they fester. When a long-term commenter like me makes a request for change that seems reasonable and effective, I get treated like just another RW stirrer. There seems a lack of respect for commenters, despite the avowed rules and regs.
Hard to disagree. I'll except a single point made by Trotter: the GP leadership cabal as a cult of zealots. Groupthink makes it seem true, yet James has clearly been more of a moderate centrist in his practical politics this year. Gareth & Marama disagreeing with Jack's purist leftism is another sign that realpolitik is prevailing over the groupthink.
So although Trotter's point is my own perennial complaint about them in different words, over-stated, perhaps the primary symptom of a problem is the `closed to media' signal. The gloss James put on that seemed unconvincing.
As if he is tacitly conceding that there's a centrist vs leftist war going on at the grass-roots membership level that the cabal doesn't want the media to discover. I doubt the Greens are capable of such intensity of political motivation – I've never seen such evidence in them that they have any natural tendency to ideological warfare whatsoever.
There is, however, a natural division between idealists & pragmatists. The latter build consensus, whereas the former can't handle the test and default to their tacit narcissism to evade reality.
"I've just heard police have sent in around 60 cops into the fields and into Ihumātao Quarry Road. Kaitiaki sitting at the front lines are currently sandwiched in, while kaitiaki at the ātea are being blocked from bringing food and blankets in. #ProtectIhumātao"
"Police have waited for the cover of darkness to swarm in and terrorise a dozen freezing land protectors who have been holding the front line. If you can get to Ihumaatao, go now!"
I dont have a lot of time for Mr Woodford's usual take on CC related issues but on this one I have to agree….this is looking more and more like a poorly designed policy that should have been a walk in the park.
"If New Zealand is to plant large areas of trees, beyond the ten to twenty-hectare woodlots that farmers might plant on lower quality land within their pastoral farming enterprises, then that planting needs to happen in a considered way using land where forestry is indeed the most appropriate long-term land-use.
Those areas of suitability need to be officially designated as such, using ecological and socio-economic criteria. The assignment process needs to be led by central government."
"It is also ironic that planting trees for carbon trading is a short-term activity tied to the length of the first rotation" but I wonder if the real value of millions and millions of trees being planted here is that over the next 30 or so years, they'll be becoming forests and forests are not trees, they act on the climate in a way that's unique to …forests. We might all benefit enormously from that and who knows, those forests might never be felled; they might be augmented with diverse plantings to create "real" rather than plantation forests – in 30 years, 20 years, 10 years time the whole situation could be very different. I say, plant, plant, plant!
The real value is the habitat but his point is valid, my preference is for forest and permanent in the main (no problem with some plantation for harvest) but the areas to be planted SHOULD be designated based on best outcome and the investment (and returns) should be NZ sourced…..it appears little thought has gone into this policy.
After NZ's own cesspool, Whale Oil, has been shut down, Kiwiblog's sister site, 8chan has crashed.
There had been calls to terminate the forum before, which had become home to a cesspool of extremist imagery and bigoted rhetoric.
Sound familiar?
even the site's founder (Fredrick Brennan) said it provided a "receptive audience for domestic terrorists" and should be shut down.
Why so surprised Fredrick?
"The rationale is simple: they have proven themselves to be lawless and that lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths," Cloudfare chief executive Matthew Prince wrote in a blog post.
Duh. They are white supremacists and Jordan Petersen groupies, you fucking idiot.
From a story I read the Whale Oil site just moved server and address, but the liquidators are after them claiming asset-stripping as the user database seems to have been copied over and posts starting from around a month back are mirrored on the new server.
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Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
The National Government’s proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act will mean tenants can be turfed from their homes by landlords with little notice, Labour housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty said. ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson is calling on all parties to support a common-sense change that’s great for the planet and great for consumers after her member’s bill was drawn from the ballot today. ...
A significant milestone has been reached in the fight to strike an anti-Pasifika and unfair law from the country’s books after Teanau Tuiono’s members’ bill passed its first reading. ...
New Zealand has today missed the opportunity to uphold the right to a clean, healthy, and sustainable environment, says James Shaw after his member’s bill was voted down in its first reading. ...
Today’s advice from the Climate Change Commission paints a sobering reality of the challenge we face in combating climate change, especially in light of recent Government policy announcements. ...
Minister for Disability Issues Penny Simmonds appears to have delayed a report back to Cabinet on the progress New Zealand is making against international obligations for disabled New Zealanders. ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions. “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says. “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today. “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
“China remains a strong commercial opportunity for Kiwi exporters as Chinese businesses and consumers continue to value our high-quality safe produce,” Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. Mr McClay has returned to New Zealand following visits to Beijing, Harbin and Shanghai where he met ministers, governors and mayors and engaged in trade and agricultural events with the New ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
I was initially resistant to the idea often suggested to me that the Government should deliver an arts strategy. The whole point of the arts and creativity is that people should do whatever the hell they want, unbound by the dictates of politicians in Wellington. Peter Jackson, Kiri Te Kanawa, Eleanor ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Beaumont, Election Analyst (Psephologist) at The Conversation; and Honorary Associate, School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Melbourne The Queensland state election will be held in October. A YouGov poll for The Courier Mail, conducted April 9–17 from a sample ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Naeni, PhD candidate at Alfred Deakin Institute for Citizenship and Globalisation, Deakin University There’s been much talk in recent months about what a possible second Donald Trump presidency in the United States could mean for Europe, Russia’s war in Ukraine, the ...
A brief round-up of submissions on the controversial proposed law. This is an excerpt from our weekly environmental newsletter Future Proof. Sign up here. Last week, submissions on the controversial Fast-track Approvals Bill closed just hours after the government released a list of stakeholder organisations who were sent letters advising how they could ...
A poem from Robin Peace’s new collection Detritus of Empire: feather / grass / rock. Cereal giving I see a woman’s hands, see her curious hands break a stalk as she walks through the tall prairie, the savannah, the steppe, wherever it was. See her idly bite the grass that ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Hemingway’s Goblet by Dermot Ross (Mary Egan Publishing, $38)A handsomely produced (debossed cover, lovely ...
The Commissioner's decision validates the longstanding efforts of the local community and ensures that Awataha Marae will be managed to serve the needs of the local community, particularly for hosting tangihanga. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tristan Salles, Associate professor, University of Sydney Examples of Australian landscapes.Unsplash Seventy thousand years ago, the sea level was much lower than today. Australia, along with New Guinea and Tasmania, formed a connected landmass known as Sahul. Around this time – ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Felicity Castagna, Lecturer, Creative Writing, Western Sydney University Day Day Market, ParramattaPhoto: Garry Trinh I live on the edge of Parramatta, Australia’s fastest-growing city, on the kind of old-fashioned suburban street that has 1950s fibros constructed in the post-war housing boom, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael Ryan, Teaching Fellow in Economics, University of Waikato GettyImagesfatido/Getty Images There is an ongoing global debate over whether the high inflation seen in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic can be lowered without a recession. New Zealand is not ...
The ‘Wicked Game’ heartthrob is in his late 60s now. That didn’t stop him putting on a lively, goofy and very sparkly show. Apart from ‘Wicked Game’, which graces a sultry playlist of mine simply called 💋, my last sustained Chris Isaak listening session took place when I was about ...
Analysis - Two ministers were stripped of portfolios in a warning to Cabinet, drama broke out at the Waitangi Tribunal, and the gang patch ban bill ran into opposition. ...
Tara Ward makes an impassioned plea for some vital pop culture merch. In April 1999, I became obsessed with a new reality television show called Popstars. Every Tuesday night, five strangers transformed into music royalty before my very eyes as Joe, Keri, Carly, Erika and Megan were chosen to form ...
PNG Post-Courier In the early hours of ANZAC Day, aerial photographs captured an impressive gathering of Australians and Papua New Guineans at Isurava in the Northern (Oro) Province. The solemn dawn service yesterday was held at a site steeped in history, where some of the fiercest battles of World War ...
The PSA is shocked that Oranga Tamariki has used the cost cutting drive to downgrade its commitment to Te Ao Māori and remove many specialist Māori roles. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Kemish, Adjunct Professor, School of Historical and Philosophical Inquiry, The University of Queensland There can be no more powerful symbol of the relationship between Australia and Papua New Guinea than the prime ministers of these neighbouring countries walking together on the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sharon Robinson, Distinguished Professor and Deputy Director of ARC Securing Antarctica’s Environmental Future (SAEF), University of Wollongong, University of Wollongong Andrew Netherwood Over the last 25 years, the ozone hole which forming over Antarctica each spring has started to shrink. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Viktoria Kahui, Senior Lecturer in Environmental Economics, University of Otago Getty Images/Amy Toensing Biodiversity is declining at rates unprecedented in human history. This suggests the ways we currently use to manage our natural environment are failing. One emerging concept focuses on ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Timothy Colin Bednall, Associate Professor in Management, Swinburne University of Technology marvent/Shutterstock Finding the best person to fill a position can be tough, from drafting a job ad to producing a shortlist of top interview candidates. Employers typically consider information from ...
Wondering where to host your next BYO? Whether its a small gathering or a massive party, we’ve got some recommendations. I was first introduced to the concept of BYOs at Dunedin’s India Gardens, a legendary but sadly defunct establishment, which purveyed enormous quantities of mango chicken to Aotearoa’s drunkest future ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Julien Cooper, Honorary Lecturer, Department of History and Archaeology, Macquarie University Julien Cooper The hyper-arid desert of Eastern Sudan, the Atbai Desert, seems like an unlikely place to find evidence of ancient cattle herders. But in this dry environment, my new ...
The sector says it’s hopeful her replacement Paul Goldsmith will be able to throw it a lifeline, after six months with a minister deemed missing in action, writes Catherine McGregor in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign ...
The government can't just rely on axing public sector jobs and has to do more to cut spending, says the chief economist at a free market think tank. ...
Rock The Vote NZ, known for its advocacy for minor party unity and its role within the Freedoms NZ Coalition during the 2023 General Election, celebrates this merger as a strategic enhancement of its operational strength and outreach. ...
Nearly everyone has experienced the frustration of something you use breaking and being difficult or expensive to fix. Proposed legislation could change that. It’s been raining on and off all Sunday afternoon but people are lining up outside a building in a corner of Gribblehirst Park in Sandringham, Auckland. In ...
What does a forever relationship look like when you don’t believe in marriage? And how do you celebrate it? This essay is part of our Sunday Essay series, made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.I’m going to do it, right now. I’m going to say ...
FICTION 1 Take Two by Danielle Hawkins (Allen & Unwin, $36.99) There’s commercial fiction, like this book, and then there’s quality fiction, quality writers, quality literature; the forthcoming Auckland Writers Festival is full of quality, and ReadingRoom has two tickets to give away to the following events: Paul Lynch (Dublin ...
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You can’t have missed the Gallipoli story as the movies, documentaries, essays and books capture what it was like for New Zealand troops in their eight-month campaign on the Peninsula. But this Anzac Day the Auckland War Memorial Museum has published a book that sheds light on a little-known aspect of the ...
The Prime Minister has committed to resuming direct flights to Thailand. But it’s not a promise he will be able to deliver on anytime soon. The post Prime Minister jumps the gun in Thailand appeared first on Newsroom. ...
It’s not that long ago Eliza McCartney was seriously wondering if the Paris Olympics would be her pole vaulting swansong. After years of being hounded by injury after injury, the Rio Olympics bronze medallist was still confident she would compete at her second Olympics in Paris in July, unless something ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra In the free-for-all between the Australian government and Big Tech boss Elon Musk this week, the government had to be on a winner. Most people would have little sympathy with Musk’s vociferous opposition to ...
Asia Pacific Report Chief Mandla Mandela, a member of the National Assembly of South Africa and Nelson Mandela’s grandson, has joined the Freedom Flotilla in istanbul as the ships prepare to sail for Gaza, reports Kia Ora Gaza. Mandela is also the ambassador for the Global Campaign to Return to ...
Pacific Media Watch Journalists who report on environmental issues are encountering growing difficulties in many parts of the world, reports Reporters Without Borders. According to the tally kept by RSF, 200 journalists have been subjected to threats and physical violence, including murder, in the past 10 years because they were ...
Analysis by Dr Bryce Edwards, Democracy Project (https://democracyproject.nz)Political scientist, Dr Bryce Edwards. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has surprised everyone with his ruthlessness in sacking two of his ministers from their crucial portfolios. Removing ministers for poor performance after only five months in the job just doesn’t normally happen in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Hawkins, Senior Lecturer, Canberra School of Politics, Economics and Society, University of Canberra BagzhanSadvakassov/Upsplash, CC BY-SA Australia’s inflation rate has fallen for the fifth successive quarter, and it’s now less than half of what it was back in late 2022. ...
ACT's Rural Communities and Veterans spokesman Mark Cameron responds to cancellations and protests of ANZAC Day commemorations in Wellington. He says, "These pitiful attempts to detract from ANZAC Day are not at all indicative of the feelings of mainstream ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Meighen McCrae, Associate Professor of Strategic & Defence Studies, Australian National University American and Australian stretcher bearers working together near the front line during the Battle of Hamel in 1918.Australian War Memorial While the AUKUS alliance is new, the Australian-American partnership ...
Pōneke based peace activists staged a silent protest at the ANZAC day service to highlight New Zealand’s complicity in war and genocide, and urge the government to take concrete steps to stop the genocide in Palestine. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Magdalena M.E. Bunbury, Postdoctoral Researcher, James Cook University Burial with a horse at the Rákóczifalva site, Hungary (8th century AD).Sándor Hegedűs, Hungarian National Museum, CC BY How do we understand past societies? For centuries, our main sources of information have been ...
Amanda Thompson doesn’t really do Anzac Day. But what she does do is remember the people she knew who had a lifetime to remember stuff they didn’t really want to, because of a war they didn’t ask for. And she does make Anzac biscuits.First published in 2021.All my ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kathryn Willis, Postdoctoral Researcher, CSIRO Xavier Boulenger/Shutterstock In the two decades to 2019, global plastic production doubled. By 2040, plastic manufacturing and processing could consume as much as 20% of global oil production and use up 15% of the annual carbon ...
With our collective remembrance, and steadfast belief in our common humanity, we strengthen our hope and resolve to do what we can to foster dialogue and understanding, and to heal divisions in our pursuit of peace. ...
Principal reasons for the opposition is the loss of the public’s democratic right to have “a fair say” and the vital need for a government free from corruption, said Casey Cravens of Dunedin, president of the New Zealand Federation of Freshwater ...
Never mind the scoreboard – in the 2000 Bledisloe Cup decider, the real trans-Tasman battle was won before kickoff.First published in 2016. The dawn of the new millennium was a dark time for the All Blacks. Their final game pre-Y2K was a 22-18 loss to South Africa in the ...
I’m on the wrong side of 40, I never pursued creative work and now my job is killing my soul. Help! Want Hera’s help? Email your problem to helpme@thespinoff.co.nzDear Hera,May I start with the least original conversation opener you’re likely to hear around the motu at the moment, particularly in Wellington: ...
“Never again - No AUKUS” was the message of the wreath laid at this morning’s national ANZAC Day commemorative service at Pukeahu National War Memorial Park this morning by the Stop AUKUS group. ...
Until this month, Auckland swimmer Hazel Ouwehand had never met a qualifying time in an Olympic event for a New Zealand team, even as a junior. Now she’s very likely off to the Paris Olympics after swimming well under the qualifying standard in the 100m butterfly twice – both in ...
While Anzac Day has experienced a resurgence in recent years, our other day of remembrance has slowly faded from view.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand. Original illustrations by Hope McConnell.First published in 2022.The high school’s head girl and ...
Australian and New Zealand volunteers fought together in the Waikato War, yet still its place in the Anzac tradition is unacknowledged by our defence forces or Returned Services Association.First published in 2018.When I was a boy cub I attended Anzac Day services in the South Auckland suburb of ...
A poem by Wellington writer Tayi Tibble.Hoki Mai She kisses him goodbye with her eyes still wet and alight from their last swim in the Awatere river. At the train station celebration, she leads the Kapa Haka but her voice keeps breaking under and over itself like waves. ...
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Sounds crap. Here's 20 mins of review of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2lSj-0_cxI
On a similar topic (crap) here's Quentin Tarantino defending Roman Polanski's rape of a 13 year old girl. My point is don't see the movie because you will support a rape apologist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhVPwen3pk0
Check out Chris Stuckmann movies on YouTube, hes very accurate
most of the reviews seem to be very positive about the movie.
Watched a trailer. Looks entertaining.
[Good evening, James. Have you figured yet who that Green MP is you were thinking about yesterday? I just checked and as it so happens, there is a spot available on the TS naughty step – Incognito]
See my Moderation reminder to you @ 7:20 PM.
yes – I stand corrected- it was not a MP. Still a snr member in the Green Party.
And my comment above is accurate- happy to link to the good reviews if you wish.
Not a Green MP?
Facts, eh! Who needs 'em! Little wonder people dismiss your claims reflexively, James. Get your act together if you want to be part of a worthwhile discussion; stick to the facts, don't put words in the mouths of others, back up your claims. Easy. Fun.
Thank you, James, for self-correcting a silly mistake. Please don’t make a habit out of it.
I am not interested in that movie or its reviews but thanks nonetheless; undoubtedly, there are others who may feel differently about it.
This might not go so great for Labour
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/08/exclusive-labour-forced-to-review-investigation-into-bullying-sexual-assault-allegations-against-staffer.html
And counting down to a ponytail reference in 3.2.1…
Lol
I am picking that, or ignoring the issue.
Looks like you win
Christy .v. Pucky – battle of the giants!
Of course it could be that very few people have visited Daily Review tonight, skewing the result. I also notice that Pucky was straight into mention of a ponytail, again, muddying the sample. Have you guys not done this sort of thing before?
Judith would never wear her hair in a pony tail …
Perhaps… but have you noticed SHE'S NEVER PHOTOGRAPHED FROM BEHIND!!
There might be an easy explanation for that 😉
She'll be wearing it however she likes when she ascends to the throne
She's immigrating to England???
I believe it's made of swamp kauri and is somewhere in China
Chris T wears a ponytail?
Crikey! I thought he was as bald as a bat.
Ah! The famed Billiard Ball Bat, you'll be thinking of! That bald bat. Chris T could well be a woman, of course, if she was playing on the sound of her real name: Christy. Therefore, probably not bald and maybe ponytailed. Perhaps.
Ok, fair point. BTW, women can go bald too in which case I’d feel bad for Christy …
You know before I even checked in here having seen this on another site, I wish I could bet mega bucks that and how this was raised. Expect more of it IMHO and I would make an offer to the National Party to show them when they show theirs which hasn't happened yet after quite some time.
Baggy Marry might be relieved to see the focus shift puckers.
Might not? Hardly likely to add to their allure. Is that gloat I smell on your breath, Chris T?
Lol
It was always going to be one or the other.
Ignoring beats whataboutism on the day.
Now Twyfords looking shaky with allegations at the CAA
Cant someone from Labour explain to its members that sexual harrassment is not ok, that it's a big deal, that it's not perks of the job and shouldn't be swept under the carpet
Nobody is ignoring you, Christy, but what about Pucky?
It's a bit shit, really.
Seven complaints and no action? Something stinks.
We think it might be Chris's breath, McFlock. That, along with the supposed baldness, makes him/her seem an unfortunate character; still, it's all conjecture, like his story about Labour.
The report makes some specific claims about process, though. Easy enough to outright reject.
Not to mention all talking about the same dude.
As you point out, the headline is a bit overkeen. And the local tory salivating is a bit shit. But this should still have been handled better
It is all good Robbo'
I completely understand how awkward it must be to face the realism of having your leaders office, in reality being a den of debauchery and perversion.
I doubt I would want to address it either.
Not all good, obviously but that office is not that of my leader and your description of it as a den, etc. is just silly. As for not "addressing" it, I've done so plenty of times already tonight; are you reading any comments other than your own?
A den on the ninth floor of the Beehive!? Well, strike me down with a bald bat.
There's a group of them that "hang" together elsewhere who never raised a peep about the non-existent (?) failured to appear inquiry into stuff inside the National Party, the "Tova" at the top of the story was equally predicatable and along that line there appeared to be a couple of women who were always out for a gloat re anything that coule possibly be reflected badly on the PM but then misogyny was never just an aspect solely of male behaviour.
I'm not pointing that at any of the complainants or their complaints just those carry chips on their shoulders whose sole passion is to gloat.
You know, I can't read where Labour were forced to review their investigation. It says so in the headline, but not in the article, so far as I can see; Pucky? Chris T?
Is it really that difficult for people in Labour to not sexually harass someone, I've successfully managed to not sexually harass anyone over the 45 years of my life without really even trying
Imagine how godly you'd be if you did try, Pucky! How much safer everyone would feel!
You're underselling yourself. Settling for merely not doing something is easy enough. I don't admire Judith Collins and find that an effortless thing to do but I don't expect credit for it.
I recall you saying something about not taking no for answer in regards to a spinster aunt so I'll bow to your greater knowledge on the subject
It's the insidious infiltration of the patriarchy into all communities. No organisation is above rape culture, sadly.
I think you just holed Puckish Rogue below the waterline…
Baggy Marry might be relieved to see the focus shift puckers.
Interesting that having read the article with multiple complaints including sexual assault the wording of the headline was your takeaway.
Couldn't find evidence that Labour was forced to review either, James?
You and me both. Nothing to support that claim. Probably fake.
and the seven complaints about the labour staffer – think they are fake as well Robert?
Oh, one thing at a time, James. I'm firstly interested in the claim that Labour was forced to review, James. Can't find anything to back up that claim, can you??
Lol. Typical focus on a minor detail and ignore multiple complaints of a serious nature.
It’s Behaviour like that that allow things like this to go on.
Well, James, if you can solve my riddle, I'll move on to attend to your issues, m'kay?
Nah – you go on ignoring sexual assaults.
you seem to prefer that.
Can't do it, huh? Me neither; it seems to have been made up! It pays to look closely at the claims journalists and editors make, eh, James!
The frantic denial anything is wrong in the PMs office is quite funny, well it would be if people weren't being abused in it.
Who made the frantic denial, chris T?
Apologies. Peoples lack of acknowledging the actual issue lead me to think this was happening.
Since when is absence of evidence evidence of absence? Logical fallacy.
Sorry, I just had a terrible flashback to 2014. But, yes – who made the frantic denial, Chris?
I don't know what you mean.
Is it the 26 odd year old's waitresses ponytail pulling?
Interesting you think the issues are at the same level of seriousness.
Says a lot really.
Says you read your too much into the comments of others, Chris T.
Best you pin down exactly what other people say and mean before you fill in the gaps with your own prejudice. You've got form doing that, as has James. You mates?
I am not going to go trawling back through news reports from 2014 to get a posters point when they could have just said it.
Just ignore it then. Get on with trying to argue constructively.
Maybe so, if they are, or are not, I think some of this is the overflow from the notification from the Disqus site that "private" chat groups will be discontinued from Sept 1st – there was a strong "tradition" for a "fake" headline on there followed by general gloating via the fake "debates" that often ensued – I'll butt out now but in a few days you may recognise that I may be right.
How soon we forget the frantic denials anything was wrong in the PM's office back in 2014, when it was revealed one of his staff had been running a dirty politics operation therefrom. Cruel of you to cast us back to those unpleasant times, especially since no frantic denials anything is wrong in the current PM's office have been reported (at least, not that I've seen).
Seven complaints and no action? Something stinks.
Well, stap me, The Standard stalwarts think bullying, sexual harassment and sexual assaults amount to shits and giggles and lols.
More than a 'bit shit'. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Really disappointed it took nineteen comments before someone actually pointed out how shit this is.
No they don't, Rosemary. "They" haven't commented on the substance of the issue, which is something very different from what you claim. James and Chris T are running the same line. What the "stalwarts" have done here is test the voracity of the claims made by the visitors from the Right who have come, glistening with gloat, to make unsubstantiated claims with the intention of whipping up anguish based on an article that seems, to my mind at least, lacking in rigour. I imagine if the matter was posted in the usual way, it would be addressed in the way you indicate wyou'd find more appropriate. James and Chris T don't quite fit the profile of respected commenters here, hence the teasing they received. In my opinion.
Sadly Robert seems to be an enabler – quite happy to ignore the sexual assaults and focused on everything and anything else trying to change the subject.
Ignoring the victims- exactly the behaviour that they are complaining about.
You run that line so often, James: if someone chooses not to discuss the aspect you want them to discuss, you attack them for what they haven't said; it's an idiotic ploy and I can see why you favour it, using it over and over, delighting only yourself (Chris T too, I suppose). James, I don't expect you'll be able to fathom what I mean, but others watching might.
I'm not going to mention that I'm off to bed now.
Oh really, I didn't realise there was a benchmark on the continuum of shit we were supposed to reference in order to meet your required level of outrage. Obviously "a bit shit" was too low. My mistake, I'll make sure to calibrate my shitlevel properly next time and go straight to "completely apeshit" at the first glimpse of an exclusive report that has allegedly been researched for "nearly a month" and yet has no indication of approaching the people who actually conducted the investigation being complained about.
🙄
I struggled with the sight of a bunch of men politicising rape culture and using it to have a go at each other and cracking jokes. I saw it and walked away. There are reasons why women find it hard to comment here, and this thread is one of them. Not that all the comments from the men were bad. Just the general tenor of the conversation.
(btw, I thought Rosemary was pointing to your comment as the nineteenth that finally said Labour's handling was shit).
Hi, weka. It risk of further irritating you and Rosemary and any other women who "walked away" from this thread, I think it's worth exploring the tensions here. This has happened many times before and never resolved, so far as I've seen. While I see what you mean when you say the tenor of the conversation was "bad", I think others here will not have found that to be the case. That badness you perceive relates to the claims made in the article linked-to by Chris T. Therein lies the problem. The "stalwarts" here, I think, question the validity of the article and the motivations for Chris linking to it, as well as the inappropriateness of "requiring" everyone to respond to the claims made therein on a late-evening "general" thread, simply because an easily-recognised troll/irritant demanded that we did, aided by James and Puckish Rogue; need I say more? That several "stalwarts" chose instead to wait for an author from the site to post on the issue, should they deem it important enough to do so, when serious commentary would be worth investing in. Teasing and frustrating the likes of Chris and James over details of their claims isn't the same as 'politicising rape culture', though I can see that it feels that way to those sensitive to such behaviour. At least, that's my opinion. I'm sorry that the situation arose where people felt aggrieved, but I think further exploration of the thread would show that something else happened and was misconstrued, unintentionally. Does this help, weka?
I walked away too – not cool imo
(btw, I thought Rosemary was pointing to your comment as the nineteenth that finally said Labour's handling was shit).
Thank you Weka. You read that perfectly.
I struggled with the sight of a bunch of men politicising rape culture and using it to have a go at each other and cracking jokes. Me too.
There are reasons why women find it hard to comment here, and this thread is one of them. Not that all the comments from the men were bad. Just the general tenor of the conversation. Give credit where credit is due weka, it was a successful derail.
Sorry – I read it as saying "a bit shit" was inadequate enough to keep me in the y'all category.
One or two commenters seemed to be treating the news with unabashed glee.
It made me quite angry.
Me as well.
Sorry to disappoint that “Standard stalwarts” don’t meet your expectations and don’t get your approval. However, you make a grave mistake concluding from this that they think a certain way about a serious topic.
Nobody is forced here in Daily review to address points raised by others in a certain way. People can ignore issues altogether if they wish or raise their own points. Further, everybody has different ways of letting off steam at the end of a long day.
With that out of the way, I like to point out that the exclusive article linked @ 2 was not about “bullying, sexual harassment and sexual assaults” per se but about the internal review process of the Labour Party into these alleged actions. They are two different things and it is false equivalence to treat them as equal or even one and the same thing; they clearly are not.
Lastly, if we were to jump every time some click-baiting headline appears in MSM with accompanying sensationalism, we would spend more time up in the air than on the ground. With an ‘exclusive’ like this, there are basically two options: 1) wait for more info, or 2) challenge the speculative elements and demand answers and facts. A third option could be to accept it as Gospel and put your hands in the air.
The ‘exclusive’ is not an opinion piece but apparently an investigative story/report by a journalist or team of journalists. It fails on two journalistic counts: 1) balance, and 2) fairness. In addition, it is poorly written; one sentence appeared twice, for example.
Yes, Incognito, you explain the situation very well. Cool heads, eh!
It is and will be happening more and more, and not just here on TS. I’m thinking of doing a post on this.
Including sexual assault.
Here is hoping they involved the police right at the outset on this one.
But I’m guessing they didn’t.
Wonder why ? Seems repeated behaviour.
James! With a bit of luck there'll be some unsavoury words you can repeat ad nauseum!
What a night!
James would be so lucky indeed.
Still better than the Labour members
actuallyallegedly committing those unsavoury and illegal acts thoughImpressively high character test you set, there. /sarc
Please read my comment to James @ 2.4.3 and please be careful how you choose your words here on TS. I have edited your comment to show you what I mean.
Here is hoping they involved the police right at the outset on this one.
Involved the Police in what? And do the alleged victims get a say in that, or have you decided it for them?
Have you actually read the link provided @ 2?
Do you know what allegations are and what alleged means? It is even in the headline so it is obviously an important distinction and qualifier and it appears 10 times in the piece. I wonder why that might be.
Concerning.
Women who walk away – are probably very wise. Sometimes there is more heat than light. Banning James and Chris T and some others who are not interested in thinking about the problems of our time and trying to find solutions, but just stirring and upsetting, would be a useful action. And women who think as victims and want sympathy and agreement with everything they say, they may still walk away with feelings hurt, but not so often and not too stay away feeling doubly victimised.
There would be less of this whirlpool of attacks, yah-boo child stuff at the level of you've got nits, which take up a lot of the time of earnest, sincere commenters (and moderators). Why do you allow such people to do this when you could give them bans for a decent length of time encouraging the commenters who despise what goes on as above, to come back? I miss them, and their range of opinions that were worth reading unlike the dedicated deadheads of the RW that we foster so they fester. When a long-term commenter like me makes a request for change that seems reasonable and effective, I get treated like just another RW stirrer. There seems a lack of respect for commenters, despite the avowed rules and regs.
Dude in the top left of the picture totally looks like Logan
Bryce Edwards has extensive reckons about the Greens conference that none of the writers he cites actually attended https://mailchi.mp/criticalpolitics/political-roundup-have-the-greens-done-enough-to-be-re-elected
Pretty much all twaddle.
Hard to disagree. I'll except a single point made by Trotter: the GP leadership cabal as a cult of zealots. Groupthink makes it seem true, yet James has clearly been more of a moderate centrist in his practical politics this year. Gareth & Marama disagreeing with Jack's purist leftism is another sign that realpolitik is prevailing over the groupthink.
So although Trotter's point is my own perennial complaint about them in different words, over-stated, perhaps the primary symptom of a problem is the `closed to media' signal. The gloss James put on that seemed unconvincing.
As if he is tacitly conceding that there's a centrist vs leftist war going on at the grass-roots membership level that the cabal doesn't want the media to discover. I doubt the Greens are capable of such intensity of political motivation – I've never seen such evidence in them that they have any natural tendency to ideological warfare whatsoever.
There is, however, a natural division between idealists & pragmatists. The latter build consensus, whereas the former can't handle the test and default to their tacit narcissism to evade reality.
The call has gone out for local people to head out to Ihumātao again as the police have upped their numbers and are moving on the land.
https://twitter.com/search?q=ihumatao&src=typed_query&f=live
"I've just heard police have sent in around 60 cops into the fields and into Ihumātao Quarry Road. Kaitiaki sitting at the front lines are currently sandwiched in, while kaitiaki at the ātea are being blocked from bringing food and blankets in. #ProtectIhumātao"
"Police have waited for the cover of darkness to swarm in and terrorise a dozen freezing land protectors who have been holding the front line. If you can get to Ihumaatao, go now!"
https://twitter.com/yardsoflenin/status/1158275521739780096
Hard to see how this is not going to destroy a lot of trust. Really bad move by the police.
Yep – live feed good – love seeing all the flags – hope it stays cool and calm
just seen the FB feed, cheers.
video
https://twitter.com/Te_Taipo/status/1158277355091087361
I dont have a lot of time for Mr Woodford's usual take on CC related issues but on this one I have to agree….this is looking more and more like a poorly designed policy that should have been a walk in the park.
"If New Zealand is to plant large areas of trees, beyond the ten to twenty-hectare woodlots that farmers might plant on lower quality land within their pastoral farming enterprises, then that planting needs to happen in a considered way using land where forestry is indeed the most appropriate long-term land-use.
Those areas of suitability need to be officially designated as such, using ecological and socio-economic criteria. The assignment process needs to be led by central government."
https://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/101032/keith-woodford-calls-government-rethink-its-forestry-policies-so-favour-all-new
Pat, Woodford says,
"It is also ironic that planting trees for carbon trading is a short-term activity tied to the length of the first rotation" but I wonder if the real value of millions and millions of trees being planted here is that over the next 30 or so years, they'll be becoming forests and forests are not trees, they act on the climate in a way that's unique to …forests. We might all benefit enormously from that and who knows, those forests might never be felled; they might be augmented with diverse plantings to create "real" rather than plantation forests – in 30 years, 20 years, 10 years time the whole situation could be very different. I say, plant, plant, plant!
The real value is the habitat but his point is valid, my preference is for forest and permanent in the main (no problem with some plantation for harvest) but the areas to be planted SHOULD be designated based on best outcome and the investment (and returns) should be NZ sourced…..it appears little thought has gone into this policy.
Live Feed of the police escalation at Ihumātao. Looks like a long night. Protectors are still calling for people to go out.
https://www.facebook.com/protectihumatao/videos/2385691018181970/
After NZ's own cesspool, Whale Oil, has been shut down, Kiwiblog's sister site, 8chan has crashed.
Sound familiar?
Why so surprised Fredrick?
Duh. They are white supremacists and Jordan Petersen groupies, you fucking idiot.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/08/website-8chan-crashes-hours-after-announcement-that-network-services-would-be-terminated.html
From a story I read the Whale Oil site just moved server and address, but the liquidators are after them claiming asset-stripping as the user database seems to have been copied over and posts starting from around a month back are mirrored on the new server.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/companies/liquidators-stamp-brutal-message-on-whaleoil-site-claiming-misappropriation/ar-AAFkMCq?li=BBqdg4K
the ability for Cameron and his wife to make everything even worse for themselves with everything they touch is amazing to behold.
Vile makes money.
https://splinternews.com/meet-the-man-keeping-8chan-the-worlds-most-vile-websit-1793856249
i wonder with the escalation at Ihumātao this evening- is Jacinda going to personally try and stop reporters asking about it again ?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/07/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-tried-to-prevent-media-asking-about-ihuma-tao.html