Daily Review 06/12/2016

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1. Rosemary McDonald 1

   6 December 2016 at 5:41 pm

   Oh, this is just sooo inspiring….

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/87253496/National-MP-Nikki-Kaye-returning-to-full-duties-after-breast-cancer-treatment

   Nikki Kaye is going back to work after undergoing treatment for breast cancer.

   Gets all teary about her Departing Leader, waxes positively lachrymal about how
   ..
   ” “He’s [Key] just been the most incredible person and he’s been a great friend, but also he’s just given me so much space to be able to get well.”

   Well, that’s just fine and dandy Nikki .

   How about those ‘other courageous cancer sufferers, you remember, the hundreds who were put on the Jobseekers Allowance….

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/80593373/cancer-patient-told-to-find-job-by-work-and-income

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/75373823/Leukaemia-patient-told-by-Work-and-Income-to-find-a-job-or-risk-his-benefit

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11528825

   http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/295580/cancer-sufferer-loses-employment-fight

   http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/286914/jobseeker-benefit-for-cancer-patients-'ludicrous‘

   Take a little wander over to the Givealittle site Nikki…read the begging stories of those not so lucky, those without a nice Boss like John Key who’ll give them the ‘space ‘ to get well…

   But I’m guessing that you didn’t have to stand in line for treatment through the Public Health system and encounter the sort of folk for whom a diagnosis is devastating in every facet of their and their families’ lives.

   https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/case-private-care-unclear

   https://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/read-the-journal/all-issues/2010-2019/2011/vol-124-no-1334/view-fenton

   http://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/in-print/2015/february-2015/18-february-2015/private-cancer-treatment-centre-provides-vital-public-service.aspx

   All fine for those who can afford medical insurance…

   https://www.amp.co.nz/personal/news/insights/2016/march/kiwis-confronting-
   rising-cancer-rates-and-treatment-costs

   Brighter Future for the Privileged…
   • James 1.1

     6 December 2016 at 6:34 pm

     Yeah let’s hate on a cancer survivor simply because you don’t like who she works for and her politics.

     You are truly graceless.
     • AsleepWhileWalking 1.1.1

       6 December 2016 at 7:00 pm

       Behind those headlines are actual people who suffer far worse fates than a highly paid MP ever would.
     • Rosemary McDonald 1.1.2

       6 December 2016 at 7:04 pm

       Clearly you seem to think it is perfectly OK for one of the privileged to gloat about the wonderful support she got when battling cancer when so many others have to beg?

       Are hounded and threatened by the agency our taxes fund to support people when the chips are down.

       http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/75373823/Leukaemia-patient-told-by-Work-and-Income-to-find-a-job-or-risk-his-benefit

       “”I rang and said Jason has cancer, and they said it has to be done like that because there is no such thing as a Sickness Benefit.”

       The Sickness Benefit was merged into the Job Seekers Benefit as part of welfare shake-up July 15 2013.

       “It really upset me, and I didn’t want him to see this and get upset. It’s ridiculous.”

       Then the second letter came, claiming that even though the agency had now seen Leger’s medical certificates, he still needed to be “actively seeking work”.

       Leger said the suggestion of sending out CVs from his hospital bed sounded like a bad joke.

       “It’s that extra stress that you don’t need at this time going through the treatment,” he said.

       He had worked full-time since leaving school, and had never been on a benefit, with doctors even questioning how he had survived working up to the day of his diagnosis.”

       You think this is OK, James?

       or….

       http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/295580/cancer-sufferer-loses-employment-fight

       “A woman whose job was given to someone else while she received cancer treatment has lost her case for unfair dismissal, and must also pay her former company $3000.

       When Auckland administrator Corinne Tribe found out she had mouth cancer, she sent an email to her employer at J Scott and Company Timber saying she hoped to stay, but would understand if she was replaced.

       Later she wrote…””I am concerned that my ability to speak clearly, whilst not hindering the job itself, may make it difficult for a new employer to take a chance on me so if it was at all possible for me to keep in touch with the hope of anything that may come up at JSC I would be very grateful.”

       She was asked to confirm her resignation in writing but refused.

       She sent another email days later: “I look forward to being back in the work place as the valuable employee that I have been this far.””

       No ‘space to get well’ from this employer…no siree…then they go for costs because she fought for her job.

       Yet Nikki gloats….almost as if she was oblivious to those who have gone before down this road.

       Much better for her just to turn up and shut up, or if she wished to be graceful she could have said….

       “I understand how lucky, how incredibly privileged I am to have a job that pays very well, that allows me months off (on full pay?) for treatment and recovery as well as the personal support of my boss. I apologise sincerely and from the bottom of my heart for the dreadful and cruel policies that the government I am a part of have put in place that have made the already unbearably difficult lives of other cancer sufferers even more intolerable. My very first mission when I return to work will be to beg my colleagues to repeal any and all policies and legislation which were enacted to kick New Zealander’s when they are already down.”

       Sob.
       • Grey Area 1.1.2.1

         6 December 2016 at 7:23 pm

         Rosemary, don’t waste your time or your energy. You’re giving him exactly what he wants.
         • Rosemary McDonald 1.1.2.1.1

           6 December 2016 at 7:43 pm

           No worries Grey Area…if feeding this particularly nasty little troll gives me the opportunity to put a spotlight on the real damage this Mob has done…then bring it on chum.

           Kicking Kiwis on the Ground…a sport for Key and Crew since 2008…
       • Ethica 1.1.2.2

         6 December 2016 at 7:25 pm

         Thanks Rosemary. I don’t think people realise there is no Sickness Benefit anymore and that people with serious illnesses and having treatment for them are considered to be Jobseekers and must go out and search for jobs, go to courses to write CVs etc. This includes those who have been forbidden from working by their doctors because of such conditions as temporary blindness, or the effects of chemotherapy or suppressed immune systems. A National Party MP even referred to the option of the Sickness Benefit recently. No it does not exist. And that is cruel.
         • Rosemary McDonald 1.1.2.2.1

           6 December 2016 at 7:40 pm

           “A National Party MP even referred to the option of the Sickness Benefit recently. ”

           Sadly, this does not surprise me.

           To be honest, I suspect that Nikki Kaye also might be idling under the illusion that all New Zealander’s have such a positive cancer experience.

           That the safety nets are there and fully functional.

           So, I might, just might have been a tad harsh on Ms. Kaye…maybe she’s simply ignorant rather than heartlessly cruel.
           • Anne 1.1.2.2.1.1

             6 December 2016 at 10:28 pm

             So, I might, just might have been a tad harsh on Ms. Kaye.

             No. Even if she IS ignorant of the truth… that makes it worse. That a Cabinet minister no less doesn’t have a clue what’s going on under her nose maybe par for the course with this lot, but its beyond disgraceful. Good on you for having the guts to tell it like it is.
     • b waghorn 1.1.3

       6 December 2016 at 8:11 pm

       oh poor little james is offended again , well guess what james , get fucked ,your cunt leader and his mates have fucked the health system in this country, 60 plus days for most cancer patients before they get treatment, i know a fulla can’t get a new knee because of his high bmi supposedly except when he asked if it would be done if he had the money they said yes it would, get a fucking spine you sad git.
       • James 1.1.3.1

         6 December 2016 at 8:56 pm

         Perhaps he should lose weight. It might be what fucked his knee in the first place.
         • b waghorn 1.1.3.1.1

           6 December 2016 at 9:04 pm

           oh mister offended thinks people that are overweight don’t deserve help, has the thought crossed your mind that part of why he’s heavy is because pain has lowered his mobility. and 40 years of farming fucks most people s joints , their wouldn’t be many 65 year old cockies that haven’t got a steel knee or hip
         • Muttonbird 1.1.3.1.2

           6 December 2016 at 9:05 pm

           Fat-shaming now? I thought that was a personal bug-bear of yours.
           • Banjo 1.1.3.1.2.1

             6 December 2016 at 11:05 pm

             Yes a surprising comment from someone who recently spoke out against fat-shaming ….. and claimed that their concern was consistent and sincere …..

             James 5.1
             23 September 2016 at 8:16 am
             ” Whats his weight got to do with it. Think you can make comments without going on the persons weight? Or is that only acceptable if you are insulting a man or someone with different political views?”

             James …
             23 September 2016 at 4:48 pm
             “I have commented on this several times – from women being called a bitch – to references to peoples weight …. So – I can back up my sincerity by being consistent”
         • Rosemary McDonald 1.1.3.1.3

           6 December 2016 at 9:21 pm

           My, my, my, James, What a little potty mouth you’re turning out to be.

           Bad knee-hard to excercise-gain weight-knee worse-less excercise-more weight gain….vicious circle.

           Solution? Fix the fucking knee.
       • Rosemary McDonald 1.1.3.2

         6 December 2016 at 9:17 pm

         “…except when he asked if it would be done if he had the money they said yes it would, ”

         And there b waghorn is that nail hit squarely on the head….

         Those handwringing specialists who say ’60 day wait for treatment’ in the Public Health system because ‘we’re all so overworked and we haven’t got enough expert specialists to treat you madam’, are the very same ‘doctors’ who peculiarly have the time to treat your wealthy arse within days if you are privileged enough to be able to stump up the dosh.

         I went to a follow up appointment with a friend who had been through rather grueling treatment for leukaemia. The doctor was thorough, caring and respectful and showed a genuine personal interest in the life of my friend…not just their health. There had been trouble at the hospital recently….largely to do with waiting times for treatment….This doctor noted that many of his colleagues also had private practices so they were not full time at the Public Hospital. This doctor could not understand how they could split their time and attention two ways…’serving two masters’. I suggested that the salary paid by the Public Hospital to secure a full time specialist was insufficient….this doctor said, “I have a nice house and a nice car. My children go to good schools and I can afford to take my wife and children back home (to Bangladesh) every year to see my mother and siblings. what more do I need?” All this with a humble and self deprecating shrug.

         The steady privatisation of the health system has been a long term goal of the right since…well…the Public health System was developed.
     • Whispering Kate 1.1.4

       6 December 2016 at 9:02 pm

       Get a life James, Nikki is very fortunate to have had time off from a lenient public service who earn their living off the hard working PAYE taxpayer. She is more than likely to have private insurance and yes, its a piece of cake for the wealthy to access care for cancer treatments than the not so well off.

       How miserable can you be to call Rosemary graceless – she is just stating a fact and by the way I wish Nikki Kaye a successful recovery from Breast cancer – you are just a muck raking troll.
   • Naki man 1.2

     6 December 2016 at 9:48 pm

     Recently i had a skin cancer cut out at Waikato Hospital. I waited six weeks for them to see me and have a look, they were seeing patients in the weekend to reduce the waiting list. Just over a week later they were operating on me.
     My partener just had a foot xray that was a two week wait.
     I think the service is pretty good.
     • Molly 1.2.1

       7 December 2016 at 7:19 am

       Why would you think that your personal fairly positive experience, negates the likelihood that others have a negative one?

       BTW, your procedures sound fairly minor and easily dealt with. I have watched a friend – over the last several years – battle with ACC and the MoH over injuries received during a public surgery. The case continues, but not without the immense stress and harm inflicted by institutions intent on denying liability.

       Also, at least you were not in the position of having to go on Jobseekers allowance as well. The anecdotes that Rosemary outlines above should have you wondering about the efficiency of sanctions policies, and the cold heartedness of such a system.
2. Macro 2

   6 December 2016 at 5:45 pm

   And they call it a “Democracy” 🙄
   Broken Machines, passwords “admin”, “abcde” , No problem with the count – Yeah Right!
   • alwyn 2.1

     6 December 2016 at 6:02 pm

     If this story is correct it would seem the place where the errors are likely to have occurred is one where Hillary “Won in a landslide”.
     It would appear that the number of over counted votes is likely to be proportional to the number of genuine votes cast, if the error was due to jammed papers ending up being counted twice. It is hardly likely that there is a pattern of jammed papers that favours Trump who would have less votes in the area. The machines aren’t that smart.
     Thus it seems that Trump may have won the State by more than the reported 10,000 or so.
     Bad luck Hillary
   • AsleepWhileWalking 2.2

     6 December 2016 at 7:05 pm

     I heard that in Michigan the votes are all paper. They get added to a computer later on.
3. Psych nurse 3

   6 December 2016 at 6:09 pm

   Just noticed Paula Bennett on TV, she’s looking very orange, hints of Trump. A winning move.
4. Draco T Bastard 4

   6 December 2016 at 6:29 pm

   US Lawmakers Move to Criminalize ‘Fake News, Propaganda’ on the Web

   The witch hunt for “fake news” and “Russian propaganda” has been kicked up a notch, after the House passed a bill quietly tucked inside the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017, designed to crack down on free speech and independent media.
5. joe90 5

   6 December 2016 at 6:48 pm

   Consequences.

   On Sunday, a man walked into a pizzeria in Washington, DC, with an assault rifle and fired one or more shots.

   The scene, thankfully, was not another example of a mass shooting — no one was injured or killed. Instead, it was the result of a fake news story about Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign that proliferated on social media in the weeks before Election Day.

   The totally false conspiracy theory claims that Hillary Clinton and her former campaign manager, John Podesta, ran a child sex ring at a pizzeria in DC, Comet Ping Pong. Over the past few weeks, Donald Trump supporters and white supremacists on social media have pushed the conspiracy theory — leading to headlines like “Pizzagate: How 4Chan Uncovered the Sick World of Washington’s Occult Elite” on fake news websites

   http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/5/13842258/pizzagate-comet-ping-pong-fake-news

   #pizzagate
   • AsleepWhileWalking 5.1

     6 December 2016 at 7:09 pm

     Curiously customers leapt to defend the pizzeria, rather than describe what occurred during what must have been a terrifying scene (refers to comment made by Doug Hagmann in the video below).
     • McFlock 5.1.1

       7 December 2016 at 1:01 pm

       Curiously, these two fuckwits use dime-store pop psychology to ignore that fact that their lies caused some nutbar to “self investigate” using firearms.
6. AsleepWhileWalking 6

   6 December 2016 at 7:24 pm

   http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-05/website-raising-money-fund-assassinations-trump-pence-uncovered-dark-web

   “He’s actually just a little scammer, but now he’s calling to murder the president-elect. I don’t see how anyone could sit back and watch someone doing that. I actually planned to send an email to the United States Secret Service about him, but I can’t find an appropriate email address of the USSS, so I’ve to post this here. The message is signed: “The kind Austrian citizen, 1k4.”
7. nom 7

   6 December 2016 at 8:02 pm

   So, the dead eyed lizard king is dead, long live the lizard king!

   Any bets on where John is going to end up slithering off to?
8. Muttonbird 8

   6 December 2016 at 9:09 pm

   Don Brash on Judith Collins as PM: ‘She has the integrity’

   Sadly, despite being morally corrupt, the National caucus will not fall for this shit. Could Collins have a worse endorsement than from Don Brash?

   http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/don-brash-on-judith-collins-as-pm-she-has-the-integrity-2016120619
9. swordfish 9

   6 December 2016 at 9:26 pm

   I wonder if the timing of Key’s announcement inadvertently reveals something about National’s expectations surrounding the Mt Roskill By-Election ?

   Key says he made his decision to step down in September, in early October he / the Govt confirm the By-Election date, and he, no doubt, decides at this point that he’ll make his resignation announcement a few days later.

   Despite all the ex post facto nonsense about Mt Roskill’s alleged status as one of the great Labour strongholds, it must have looked potentially winnable to Key and Joyce back in Sep / Oct … National ahead in the Party Vote there at the 2014 General Election, the Right Bloc ahead of the Left 48 / 46 (albeit, the broader Opposition slightly ahead of the Right 52 / 48).

   Yeah, it may have turned out more like Christchurch East and Mt Albert in the end, but from the perspective of Sep / Oct (with nationwide Polls tentatively beginning to suggest a swing back to the Right), the audacious idea of poaching a rare By-Election win off the Opposition (with all the associated MSM headlines), thus setting up the new National Leader / PM for a great Election run next year – must have seemed eminently do-able.

   At the very least, the timing suggests they were hoping for a 2010 Mana – where the Nat candidate slashed Labour’s majority.

   Ah, but the best laid plans of mice and men, eh … after a week of bad press inspired by the opportunist Leggett, Mt Roskill sees Labour end very much on the front foot – just when National least wanted it.
   • Muttonbird 9.1

     6 December 2016 at 9:45 pm

     Yes, at the very least they were set on a significantly reduced majority and even had ideas of winning the seat.

     But they got man-shamed. Michael Wood’s win and the massive effort put in by his supporters and the wider Labour campaign outfit surprised and crippled National and Key in equal proportions.

     I’m not saying this resignation was due to the result of the Mt Roskill by election (I did intimate that a day or so ago but I’ll retract and agree that Key would have quit yesterday win or lose), but you are right that the resignation was tied to the Mt Roskill by election.

     As it happened National got dicked and the furore around Key quitting has really squashed any immediate momentum Labour might have taken into the new year.

     As always quite deceitful of John Key and his machine.
10. Muttonbird 10

    6 December 2016 at 9:56 pm

    Shares in wrap around sunglasses manufactures plummeted today with the news John Key’s security detail could be looking for other work.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/87256428/what-will-happen-to-keys-security-detail
11. Rosemary McDonald 11

    6 December 2016 at 10:06 pm

    And now for something completely different…

    This nasty little piece of police work that has seen four police officers charged with assault in the Napier District Court.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/319193/tasers-and-dogs-used-on-suspect-in-car,-court-told

    Four police officers have been accused of using excessive force when they fired tasers and set dogs on a wanted man, who died at the scene, in Napier last year.
    Crown prosecutor Ben Vanderkolk said police were called to Raymond McPeake’s home in Hastings in March 2015 after reports the 76-year-old had been beaten by his son, armed with what was described as a cosh.

    Raymond McPeake was taken to hospital but Mr McPeake’s son, 53-year-old Gregory McPeake, was nowhere to be found.
    Mr McPeake as “a huge chronic alcoholic and a previous drug user”. It said he “might be parked up somewhere drinking and contemplating suicide and there was a suggestion that he might want to kill his father and brother”.

    Mr Vanderkolk said an officer found Mr McPeake’s two-door hatchback SUV parked up at Napier’s Westshore. He put road spikes down before calling for back-up.

    The officers called to Mr McPeake to get out of the car and when they got no response from the 179kg man, they decided to break the car’s windows and use pepper spray.

    Mr McPeake lashed out at the police and kept the doors locked, despite efforts to get him out.

    Two officers fired tasers through the passenger’s and driver’s windows and two police dogs were also let loose in the car.

    “He somehow managed to get one of the dogs tangled up in the wires of one of the tasers, or the cables, and he held the other dog by the muzzle very firmly.”

    When the officers finally got the door open, Mr McPeake fell out of the car and landed face down. He was unresponsive and, despite attempts by the police officers and ambulance staff, later died.”

    That was on the 29th November….

    Today http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/319770/'you-can-negotiate-for-as-long-as-it-takes‘

    An officer from the AOS testifies…

    “Police officers had no justification for using tasers on a wanted man who refused to get out of his car, an Armed Offenders Squad (AOS) senior manager has told a Napier court.

    Canterbury AOS manager Inspector Bryan Buck said today the officers had contained Mr McPeake in his car, by sealing off exits with road spikes, and they should have called the AOS.

    “I have the view, the strong view, that if staff truly had the PCA [perceived cumulative assessment] of death/GBH [grievous bodily harm] and believed Mr McPeake posed that level of threat with a crossbow, then a vehicle assault was not the appropriate tactic, at all.”

    The officers did not have to act, he said.

    “In a case where this person, the sole occupant of a car, parked in front of a beach as it was, containment achieved through the positioning of road spikes and other staff that could be deployed to cut off points of exit – I was happy that containment was achieved, therefore time is your friend. In other words, you can negotiate with this person for as long as it takes.””

    This just might be one of those cases of police brutality where justice might prevail.
12. adam 12

    6 December 2016 at 11:18 pm

    how about that trump, not even in office and he’s aiming to take Native american land. Oh look, the committee into native americans has 4 out of 5 people who are tied to the oil industry. Now Colonial Viper, now you believe he is as evil as h.r.c? Now you think he is a corporate shrill and a elect for the 1%? What excuse are we going to get this time I wonder?

    And As I said after he was elected and the appointment of corporate clowns, this is just going to keep rolling with this muppet. So yeah you picked it, still does not stop trump from being a evil sob.
13. Ad 13

    7 December 2016 at 6:52 pm

    John Key, President of the International Monetary Fund, has an appropriate ring to it don’t you think?

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