Daily Review 09/05/2017

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1. joe90 1

   9 May 2017 at 6:55 pm

   Just a clown singing Pinball Wizard, to the tune of Folsom Prison Blues, of course.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfPwtUTP4k&feature=youtu.be
2. Pete 2

   9 May 2017 at 7:14 pm

   I just saw Minister Jonathan Coleman rubbishing a petition presented about mental health. Not because of the issue but because some of the people giving it were well-known protestors or somesuch.

   Does that mean, using the same logic, that every single thing he says or does can be rubbished by people because they think he is an arsehole?
   • BM 2.1

     9 May 2017 at 7:30 pm

     What do people with mental health issues actually want? what do they think is lacking in the current way we approach mental health?
     • the pigman 2.1.1

       9 May 2017 at 7:48 pm

       “What do people with mental health issues actually want? what do they think is lacking in the current way we approach mental health? (emphasis my own)

       Resources/staff, but of course your question is purely rhetorical and is supposed to insinuate something along the lines of, “what do these crazies want and why should we give it to them if they’re crazy?”

       Base as ever.
       • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1

         9 May 2017 at 9:41 pm

         +1
     • joe90 2.1.2

       9 May 2017 at 8:00 pm

       What do people with mental health issues actually want? what do they think is lacking in the current way we approach mental health?

       Oh I don’t know, proactive rather than reactive service, more acute beds, closer community supervision, timely intervention to head off potentially fatal crises……things like that.

       https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/otorohanga-family-attack-mothers-fears-mentally-ill-son-brewing-in-days-before-her-fatal-stabbing

       http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/81644071/mental-illness-of-son-behind-killing-of-helen-silverwood-in-wellington

       http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/78366259/Questions-over-care-of-mentally-ill-woman-who-stabbed-Wellington-man-to-death
     • Tautoko Mangō Mata 2.1.3

       9 May 2017 at 8:01 pm

       @BM Here is just one example of what people with mental health issues have complaints about,

       Lakes District Health Board information received through an Official Information Act request shows 25 per cent of youth patients from October 2014 to September last year waited longer than eight weeks for a second face-to-face appointment.

       http://www.nzherald.co.nz/health/news/article.cfm?c_id=204&objectid=11735319ppointment.
     • Whispering Kate 2.1.4

       9 May 2017 at 8:27 pm

       Go down to the coal face BM for a month or so – experience front line how the responders and the unwell cope with diminished resources and too many people sick for the resources that are available. You are heartless and a jerk.
     • michelle 2.1.5

       10 May 2017 at 9:17 am

       BM you obviously know nothing about mental health do you. So I think you should do some homework instead of putting weak naive comments like this on this forum
   • james 2.2

     9 May 2017 at 7:37 pm

     “Does that mean, using the same logic, that every single thing he says or does can be rubbished by people because they think he is an arsehole?”

     It would seem to be the case
     • mickysavage 2.2.1

       9 May 2017 at 8:34 pm

       They think he is an asshole because the decisions he makes are so appalling and he then tries to suggest that mental health care should be denied to left wingers.
   • keepcalmcarryon 2.3

     9 May 2017 at 7:54 pm

     Yes Pete. That is exactly what it means.
3. JC 3

   9 May 2017 at 7:15 pm

   Fuck Me! What a day!

   An open letter signed by over 12,000 people has been handed over to MPs, calling for an urgent review of the mental health system.

   “However Health Minister Jonathan Coleman has shut down the idea, saying the group behind the letter, Action Station, is a left-wing anti-government group.”

   http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/330422/mental-health-review-letter-signed-by-over-12,000

   Whanganui MP Chester Borrows, who has been found not guilty of careless driving causing injury at a protest, says his driving was “completely reasonable” given the circumstances.

   The minister, who was in the car with Mr Borrows, said she was aware of an aggressive social media post targeting her and feared a sex toy would be thrown at her.

   “I think I was probably most expecting that they would throw the sex toy at the car and I didn’t really want a photo or to be in the news with this thing near me.”

   Solid Energy CEO Tony King says he’s disappointed no one has been held to account”
   And states that” it’s about the willingness to accept risk”

   http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201843229/solid-energy-ceo-on-safety-accountability-and-video-of-pike-river

   FFS! Like most I get up in the morning and accept risk!

   Did Helen Clark, or Hillary consider that….(Ed), or Neil Armstrong or Yuri Gagarin, or VALENTINA TERESHKOVA, and or so many others who accept, and manage that as all part of their daily life!
   • JC 3.1

     9 May 2017 at 7:27 pm

     Fuck Me! What a day!

     An open letter signed by over 12,000 people has been handed over to MPs, calling for an urgent review of the mental health system.

     “However Health Minister Jonathan Coleman has shut down the idea, saying the group behind the letter, Action Station, is a left-wing anti-government group.”

     http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/330422/mental-health-review-letter-signed-by-over-12,000

     Whanganui MP Chester Borrows, who has been found not guilty of careless driving causing injury at a protest, says his driving was “completely reasonable” given the circumstances.

     The minister, who was in the car with Mr Borrows, said she was aware of an aggressive social media post targeting her and feared a sex toy would be thrown at her.

     “I think I was probably most expecting that they would throw the sex toy at the car and I didn’t really want a photo or to be in the news with this thing near me.”

     Solid Energy CEO Tony King says he’s disappointed no one has been held to account”
     And states that” it’s about the willingness to accept risk”

     http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201843229/solid-energy-ceo-on-safety-accountability-and-video-of-pike-river

     FFS! Like most I get up in the morning and accept risk!

     Did Helen Clark, or Hillary consider that….( Ed) or Neil Armstrong or Yuri Gagarin, or VALENTINA TERESHKOVA

     http://rocket-women.com/2015/06/valentinas-day-celebrating-the-day-valentina-tereshkova-became-the-first-woman-in-space/
4. mpledger 4

   9 May 2017 at 7:27 pm

   Can the women who got hit by Coleman’s car take him to court?
   • james 4.1

     9 May 2017 at 7:38 pm

     For what – its been proven that he was not guilty of careless driving.
     • mickysavage 4.1.1

       9 May 2017 at 8:23 pm

       Yes she can. The civil test (balance of probabilities) is less onerous than the criminal test (beyond reasonable doubt).
       • james 4.1.1.1

         9 May 2017 at 8:54 pm

         What would be the “charge” be? would they be able to take a civil case for a criminal charge that they have been found not guilty of?

         Or do they have to come up with a seperate “charge”?
         • The decrypter 4.1.1.1.1

           9 May 2017 at 9:05 pm

           Whatever james .Coleman would deny any charge.
           • james 4.1.1.1.1.1

             9 May 2017 at 9:14 pm

             Well of course he would – he was not guilty. Would ‘you’ not deny a charge esp if you had previously been found not guilty?

             But I was serious on the question – I dont know how the system works for civil action.
             • Draco T Bastard …

               9 May 2017 at 9:49 pm

               Well of course he would – he was not guilty.

               Except that he really did do what he was charged with as the video shows.

               What we’re seeing here is a typical misapplication if the law that happens everyday as some people get off charges because of who they are while others get the book thrown at them because of the colour of their skin.
               • James …

                 10 May 2017 at 8:23 am

                 The courts have found him not guilty of what he was charged with.

                 He did something (as did the protesters) – but he expressly did not do what he was “charged with” because he was found not guilty of it.
                 • Draco T Bastard …

                   10 May 2017 at 9:27 am

                   Read what I said again.
                   • james …

                     10 May 2017 at 9:54 am

                     I did – you should as well:

                     “Except that he really did do what he was charged with …”

                     No he was charged with ‘careless driving’. And he has been found not guilty of that – so therefor he didnt do what he was charged with.

                     The fact that you disagree with the decision without having in the court and heard all the evidence just shows you have a predetermined result that you wanted. Hard luck.
     • McFlock 4.1.2

       9 May 2017 at 9:56 pm

       If I understand the verdict, he carefully drove into people because he was afraid of a dildo, and this was right and proper.

       Sigh.
       • mauī 4.1.2.1

         9 May 2017 at 10:39 pm

         heh, you wouldn’t read about it! Time to replace the crown car fleet with dildo proof glass.

         Breaking news, crown car gear sticks to be replaced due to close similarities with a sex toy security threat.
       • james 4.1.2.2

         10 May 2017 at 9:56 am

         And indeed a leftie who tweeted a article with the headline about “a little bit of sexual abuse never heart anybody” – then a photo of the dildo with Paula Bennets name on it and the caption “your’e next bitch”.

         then the guy is there at the protest with a dildo gave no reason for concern at all?
         • McFlock 4.1.2.2.1

           10 May 2017 at 12:12 pm

           Well, not enough to run someone over, in my opinion. although the courts disagreed. Oh well, so it goes.

           BTW, just because I think burrows is a cock doesn’t mean I think that some protestors can’t be massive cocks, too. I just reckon that phallusphobia is a memorable excuse for running someone over.
     • mpledger 4.1.3

       9 May 2017 at 10:28 pm

       Assualt with a vehicle.
5. The decrypter 5

   9 May 2017 at 7:30 pm

   J C. Paula didn’t want really want photo or to be in the news with this thing near me ? I Understand the sex toy said that –typo I suspect.
   • JC 5.1

     9 May 2017 at 7:35 pm

     Quote ex RNZ… http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/330392/deputy-pm-takes-stand-at-borrows-trial

     But yer I could understand the reluctance…
6. Andre 6

   9 May 2017 at 7:36 pm

   Kids these days…telling it like it is.

   https://twitter.com/PresidentShow/status/861279966536896512

   Shame it was only a Trump impersonator.

   http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/05/video-of-girl-calling-trump-a-disgrace-is-a-fake.html
7. mauī 7

   9 May 2017 at 9:02 pm

   To lighten the load John Key appears in first Air Nu Zillind video:
   https://youtu.be/vIOrQi8vJJo
   • mickysavage 7.1

     9 May 2017 at 9:19 pm

     That deserves a post of its own …
     • mauī 7.1.1

       9 May 2017 at 10:43 pm

       Take your pick, theres a plethora of material now on youtube.
8. Draco T Bastard 8

   9 May 2017 at 10:02 pm

   Kiwis’ private debts put the country at risk

   As Ireland’s GDP soared to stratospheric heights, the country’s homeowners enjoyed a massive property bubble. By 2005, the Economist ranked Ireland’s property market as among the world’s most overvalued (a distinction the magazine bestowed on New Zealand earlier this year), yet prices still went up, fuelled by indulgent lending.

   Irish banks saw the total stock of mortgage loans blow up from €16 billion in the first quarter of 2003 to a peak of €106 billion by the third quarter of 2008, about 60 percent of Ireland’s GDP for that year.

   As, one by one, private banks began to falter, the Irish government issued a guarantee of the debt on their books — an urgent measure designed to preserve the system’s liquidity and the solvency of the banks. This guarantee became a €64 billion bailout, which combined with falling tax revenue as a result of the contracting European economy, saw net government debt skyrocket to 119.5 percent of GDP in 2012, from just 23.9 percent in 2007.

   Ireland’s mounting debt became too much to handle. In 2010, it conceded the banking crisis was too large for it to handle alone. It applied to the IMF and EU for an urgent loan to prop up the banking sector and its own government spending. An urgent €85 billion bail out was granted within a week. Ireland entered an era of punishing austerity, and ceded control over certain budgetary decisions to its creditors. Its national debt remains high at 78.6 percent of GDP.

   If any moral can be drawn from this Gaelic parable it is that despite a government’s discipline, bad private debt can quickly become public debt in the midst of a financial crisis. This is a problem that should give Joyce pause for thought, had he not had many months to contemplate it already. The Economist is not the only authority to point the finger at New Zealand’s housing market, the IMF and even the Reserve Bank of Australia have also expressed misgivings.

   Where we’re headed, especially under a National government, is towards a massive meltdown of the economy due to private individuals being too far in debt but we shouldn’t just blame National for this as it was 4th labour that brought in the ideology that causes such bubbles and 5th Labour continued it.
   • adam 8.1

     9 May 2017 at 11:44 pm

     You should look at the looming crisis in the US around student loans, and what they doing with them. I wonder if they are on sell the debt here in NZ as well, probably as they desperate for profits – even if it undermines economics and peoples lives.
   • DoublePlusGood 8.2

     9 May 2017 at 11:46 pm

     Shouldn’t Ireland just have let the banks fail. That would cause far less long term damage, surely. No use just selling out your country so it can be looted for decades by the IMF.
     • Draco T Bastard 8.2.1

       10 May 2017 at 12:16 am

       Shouldn’t Ireland just have let the banks fail. That would cause far less long term damage, surely.

       Yes they should have and the NZ govt should have let all the finance companies and banks lose as well.

       The rich, who would have lost everything if the banks had failed, wouldn’t allow that to happen and the politicians work to what the rich want and so entire countries get placed into hock to keep the rich rich.

       No use just selling out your country so it can be looted for decades by the IMF.

       It’s good for the rich who get the money that they loaned out back – not so good for everyone else.

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