Daily Review 18/08/2016

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  1. Anne 1

    NZ intelligence and Security Bill – First Reading;

    Andrew Little – http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/44820

    Kennedy Graham – http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/44824

    I hope the select committee hearings will take place in public. I, for one, would wish to watch proceedings.

  2. joe90 2

    A plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel!

    .

    Proportionally speaking, Americans living in poverty pay more for basic necessities. On energy bills, the poorest 20 percent of Americans spend more than seven times the share of their income than do the wealthiest. Dividing American incomes into three, households in the bottom third spend twice the portion of their incomes on transportation than the top third. High housing costs are hurting everyone—but they’re hurting poor Americans the most.

    […]

    It might not need to be. Urban poverty could be cut—rather drastically— through a basic principle of finance, according to the Center for Neighborhood Technology, a Chicago-based urban policy think-tank. On Thursday, the CNT released the “Urban Opportunity Agenda,” with a central premise so simple that it’s sort of stunning it’s not talked about more: Reducing the cost of living for low-income citizens.

    http://www.citylab.com/cityfixer/2016/08/poverty-reduction-cost-of-living-center-for-neighborhood-technology/494348/

  3. ScottGN 3

    So according to Claire Trevett’s rather disjointed and incoherent efforts in the Herald today it’s a perfectly legitimate tactic for a government to clog up the private member’s bill ballot with bogus bills that are doled out to backbench MPs by the Attorney-General?
    Is this really the best the Herald can do as far as political opinion pieces go?

  4. Garibaldi 4

    Bit of a heavy day of right wing trolls. Big of them to point out that it’s better to be taught how to fish than to be given one. I would challenge them to walk a mile in another man’s shoes rather than sling off from their position of privileged upbringing. However I guess it is better not to respond to them at all.

    • Halfcrown 4.1

      Got to agree with you there. I really don’t believe that there are people out there who are so callous. The bit that really gets to me is, they don’t realise how lucky they have been dealt a decent hand. If only they stopped and thought for a minute and adopted an attitude ” There for the grace of God goes I”
      I sometimes wonder if the comments by these people is piss taking or a wind-up.

  5. joe90 5

    Most recent wingnut meme-

    .

    MUST SEE: Photos of Hillary Clinton Propped Up on Pillows

    […]

    Notice anything about the image?

    Hillary is being propped up by a pillow, and it’s hardly the first time this has happened. In fact, the former secretary of state used to include propping cushions on her list of demands during her lucrative time on the paid celebrity speaking circuit.

    http://archive.li/viFKD

    edit: for giggles – #sayswho?

    • Colonial Viper 5.1

      Dr Drew Pinsky says he is “gravely concerned” about Hillary Clinton’s health

      Board-certified medicine specialist and TV personality Dr. Drew Pinsky has come out and said that he is “gravely concerned” about presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s health, pointing out that treatment she is receiving could be the result of her bizarre behaviors…

      Appearing on KABC’s McIntyre in the Morning, Pinsky said he and his colleague Dr. Robert Huizenga became “gravely concerned….not just about her health but her health care,” after analyzing what medical records on Hillary had been released.

      Pinsky pointed out that after Clinton fainted and fell in late 2012, she suffered from a “transverse sinus thrombosis,” an “exceedingly rare clot” that “virtually guarantees somebody has something wrong with their coagulation system.”…

      “So the very medicine doctors are using may be causing this problem and they’re using an old fashioned medicine to treat it – what is going on with her health care?” asked Pinsky.

      Pinsky described the situation as “bizarre,” and said that Hillary’s medical condition was “dangerous” and “concerning”.

      Dr. Drew also went on to add that it was a sign of “brain damage” when Hillary had to wear prism glasses after her fall.

      Easy win Trump November 2016.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-17/dr-drew-pinsky-says-he-%E2%80%9Cgravely-concerned%E2%80%9D-about-hillary-clinton%E2%80%99s-health

      • Garibaldi 5.1.1

        This “concern” about Hillary’s health has been around for a while. I can’t help wondering if isn’t mainly coming from those nice empathetic Republicans….

        • Colonial Viper 5.1.2.1

          What do you think about the MD’s suggestion that her need for prism glasses suggests that Clinton is suffering relevant brain damage from her blood clot in 2012 (presumably damage to her visual or oculomotor functions)?

            • Colonial Viper 5.1.2.1.1.1

              Sure joe90, if you’re right, Clinton will last through the physical rigours of the final months of the campaign just fine.

              By the way, any idea why if Clinton is in such good health, that she is only doing 1 to 2 campaign events a week (which are usually small scale fund raising functions) at the moment while Trump is doing one or two 1000+ person public rallies a day?

              Between August 21 and Sept 13 inclusive (a 24 day span) Clinton has just 5 public events on her campaign schedule. There are city councillors here in Dunedin doing harder campaigning than she is.

              And its been approx 260 days since she has held a sit down press conference. If her health is good, why doesn’t she front up?

              • There could be many valid reasons apart from illhealth. This latest health focus is such a crock.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Sure. What are the 3 most likely reasons for Clinton only doing 5 campaign events in 24 days this close to the election, apart from ill health?

                  • McFlock

                    Not wanting to distract from what trump says.
                    Clintons campaign chances leap when trump opens his mouth.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Sure, if that’s what you think, all is well.

                      Edit – will do a post on this in the next day or so which will suggest why you are incorrect.

                    • McFlock

                      lol

                      hot off the RT press,eh…

            • joe90 5.1.2.1.1.2

              Well she probably does owe it to voters to give a press conference at some point soon but it’s most certainly not a political mistake to give fewer than Trump.

              • Colonial Viper

                Her ill health will be apparent in any all media press conference which lasts longer than 15 minutes.

                Thats why she has been avoiding them.

                • weka

                  You’ve seen the West Wing CV. You know that health issues don’t equate with incompetence or debilitating weakness. The line you are running is ableist, meaning that you are assuming that her illness is a disability and that disability is an incompetence. People with disabilities have spent decades working against those kind of prejudices. Seeing them in a left wing space is bizarre.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    What is bizarre weka is that you can refer to that story line in the West Wing yet still fail to understand its implications Weka.

                    The problem wasn’t that Bartlet had multiple sclerosis. The problem was that him, his spouse and his senior advisors LIED TO THE ENTIRE COUNTRY about it.

                    The line you are running is ableist, meaning that you are assuming that her illness is a disability and that disability is an incompetence.

                    Fuck that is stupidly missing the point. See above. The point is the LIE and the DECEPTION ffs.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      For those interested this is from the West Wing episode in question

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQoGfOBTx6E

                    • Rosemary McDonald

                      “Fuck that is stupidly missing the point. See above. The point is the LIE and the DECEPTION ffs.”

                      Fuck that is a stupid thing to say….whose business is it anyway if a person has a disability or medical condition?

                      Eh? Eh?

                      If they can do the job….so fucking what?

                      Trump? Clinton?

                      Who really gives a toss…one as bad as the other and the US of A richly deserve either…or hey…both.

                      But CV…leave a person’s health and disability status out of it…

                      Unless its fucking relevant.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Sure, you seem like someone who wants to be kept ignorant by the candidate, Rosemary.

                    • weka

                      No, the ableism is you deciding that someone you perceive as having an illness or disability is lying, when you really have no idea. That shit damages people’s lives. It’s the same prejudice and arrogance that leads people to question the right’s of ill and disabled people to benefits. It’s also the same dynamic as an insurance company denying someone cover for chronic illness because their facebook page has a picture of them at a party dancing. Or someone deciding that a person on a sickness benefit seen painting their roof is really a lying bludger and instead of making a speech about it they ring the fraud line at WINZ which reigns a whole heap of shit down on that person despite them having done nothing wrong.

                      The only difference is that Clinton is writ large a million fold because of who she is.

                      No-one has the right to diagnose people online and use that misdiagnosis for their own ends (it looks like your anger against Clinton is a part of this). It’s discriminatory and creates a culture where people who are ill and disabled get active prejudice directed at them.

                      The people who have a legitimate right to discuss Clinton’s medical status are her, her family, and her medical practitioners.

                      As for Bartlet, I took a different moral to the story. Which was the dilemma of having a disability in a country which is prejudiced against illness, and having to make decisions about what is fair and useful to disclose when in a position of power. Had Bartlet disclosed he had MS he would have been discriminated against and never have become president despite his disability not affecting his ability to do the job. You think that the issue is the lying, I think the issue is that disability doesn’t equate to incompetence and yet we live in a society that too often thinks it does.

                      I actually don’t care if Clinton has a health issue that she isn’t disclosing. I do care if she has a condition that affects her ability to be president. Both those statements apply to anyone running. But we have no way of knowing if she has an illness that affects her ability, and you trying to guess in such a politically charged way sanctions that being done to anyone. That’s fucked.

        • One Two 5.1.2.2

          Joe, your one sided posts create an inpression that you desperately wish to see a Hillary Clinton presidency

          Why is it that you defend Clinton so feverishly?

          What is in it for you that has created this obsession, via your posts deriding Trump or anyone who may take up an opinion against Clinton?

          Do you even know?

          • joe90 5.1.2.2.1

            In short, ABT. As for posts deriding Trump – the narcissistic draft dodging racist misogynist lying bully boy deserves derision.

            • Colonial Viper 5.1.2.2.1.1

              Ahh yes the copious liberal sneering and falling for the MSM memes of the day, replacing actual thinking and insight.

              Easy Trump win Nov 2016.

              • joe90

                As opposed to the copious sneering and falling for the alt-right memes of the day, replacing actual thinking and insight.
                //

                • Colonial Viper

                  huh? You’re the one who has been sneering against Trump with stupid name calling in this exchange.

                  • joe90

                    Trump is a thin skinned narcissistic draft dodging bully boy with allegations both public and private, of racist misogynist behaviour and sexual impropriety swirling about in the ether.

                    And then there’s his lying, cheating financial skullduggery

            • One Two 5.1.2.2.1.2

              Can’t fault your honesty

              Critical thinking and evaluation are not for everyone

              So how about the decades of ‘allegations’ against The Clintons and The Clinton Foundation including sexual violence, fraud, corruption etc?

              ABT provide you with a big enough curtain to hide all that behind?

      • miravox 5.1.3

        So how is Trump’s dementia?

        Although the Democrats can’t put out any false memes about that. His doctor’s letter clears up any doubts about his health.

        • Colonial Viper 5.1.3.1

          Trump is doing one to two public appearances a day in front of crowds of between 1,000 and 10,000.

          Hillary has got 5 campaign events scheduled across 24 days, all small, non-public event fund raisers.

          You do the math on who can keep up the pace.

      • McFlock 5.1.4

        BTW, has Dr Drew bothered to apply his magical diagnostic powers to Trump as well?

  6. whispering kate 6

    Can anybody explain to me why there has to be Terms of Reference for a Government inquiry. Tonight Dr Jonathan Coleman has announced there will be an independent inquiry into the contaminated water in Havelock North and now Hastings by the look of the news this evening. He said once the Terms of Reference have been sorted out they do this inquiry.

    Surely if you have experts in the field presumably to conduct this inquiry then surely they will be totally adequate, experienced and knowledgeable enough to know what to do and be left to get on with it. It looks to me like the Government like to steer these inquiries to a conclusion to their liking, not very democratic if you ask me.

    Why are Terms of Reference always included in any Government inquiry.

  7. Halfcrown 7

    “Why are Terms of Reference always included in any Government inquiry.”

    They are there to make sure when the brown stuff hit the revolving thing, none of it sticks to the government or their tory mates. and to make sure that it is Labours fault

  8. whispering kate 8

    Thanks guys, I thought it was pretty obvious why they set Terms of Reference. Democracy as it is today is totally wrecked. Terms of Reference have to be the most cynical ploy and so openly practiced. Why bother with these expensive enquiries in the first place. They now need to declare it is a State of Emergency but its obvious that the Government doesn’t want to have to give compensation and that is the reason they are declining to do so – cynicism of the highest order. What a ghastly lot we have sitting in power today.

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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • BRIAN EASTON:  Peters as Minister
    A previous column looked at Winston Peters biographically. This one takes a closer look at his record as a minister, especially his policy record. Brian Easton writes – 1990-1991: Minister of Māori Affairs. Few remember Ka Awatea as a major document on the future of Māori policy; there is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Cathrine Dyer's guide to watching COP 28 from the bottom of a warming planet
    Is COP28 largely smoke and mirrors and a plan so cunning, you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel? Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: COP28 kicks off on November 30 and up for negotiation are issues like the role of fossil fuels in the energy transition, contributions to ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Top 10 news links at 10 am for Monday, Nov 27
    PM Elect Christopher Luxon was challenged this morning on whether he would sack Adrian Orr and Andrew Coster.TL;DR: Here’s my pick of top 10 news links elsewhere at 10 am on Monday November 27, including:Signs councils are putting planning and capital spending on hold, given a lack of clear guidance ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the new government’s policies of yesteryear
    This column expands on a Werewolf column published by Scoop on Friday Routinely, Winston Peters is described as the kingmaker who gets to decide when the centre right or the centre-left has a turn at running this country. He also plays a less heralded but equally important role as the ...
    3 days ago
  • The New Government’s Agreements
    Last Friday, almost six weeks after election day, National finally came to an agreement with ACT and NZ First to form a government. They also released the agreements between each party and looking through them, here are the things I thought were the most interesting (and often concerning) from the. ...
    3 days ago
  • How many smokers will die to fund the tax cuts?
    Maori and Pasifika smoking rates are already over twice the ‘all adult’ rate. Now the revenue that generates will be used to fund National’s tax cuts. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The devil is always in the detail and it emerged over the weekend from the guts of the policy agreements National ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • How the culture will change in the Beehive
    Perhaps the biggest change that will come to the Beehive as the new government settles in will be a fundamental culture change. The era of endless consultation will be over. This looks like a government that knows what it wants to do, and that means it knows what outcomes ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago
  • No More Winnie Blues.
    So what do you think of the coalition’s decision to cancel Smokefree measures intended to stop young people, including an over representation of Māori, from taking up smoking? Enabling them to use the tax revenue to give other people a tax cut?David Cormack summed it up well:It seems not only ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
  • 2023 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #47
    A chronological listing of news and opinion articles posted on the Skeptical Science  Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, Nov 19, 2023 thru Sat, Nov 25, 2023.  Story of the Week World stands on frontline of disaster at Cop28, says UN climate chief  Exclusive: Simon Stiell says leaders must ‘stop ...
    5 days ago
  • Some of it is mad, some of it is bad and some of it is clearly the work of people who are dangerous ...
    On announcement morning my mate texted:Typical of this cut-price, fake-deal government to announce itself on Black Friday.What a deal. We lose Kim Hill, we gain an empty, jargonising prime minister, a belligerent conspiracist, and a heartless Ayn Rand fanboy. One door closes, another gets slammed repeatedly in your face.It seems pretty ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • “Revolution” is the threat as the Māori Party smarts at coalition government’s Treaty directi...
    Buzz from the Beehive Having found no fresh announcements on the government’s official website, Point of Order turned today to Scoop’s Latest Parliament Headlines  for its buzz. This provided us with evidence that the Māori Party has been soured by the the coalition agreement announced yesterday by the new PM. “Soured” ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • The Good, the Bad, and the even Worse.
    Yesterday the trio that will lead our country unveiled their vision for New Zealand.Seymour looking surprisingly statesmanlike, refusing to rise to barbs about his previous comments on Winston Peters. Almost as if they had just been slapstick for the crowd.Winston was mostly focussed on settling scores with the media, making ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • When it Comes to Palestine – Free Speech is Under Threat
    Hi,Thanks for getting amongst Mister Organ on digital — thanks to you, we hit the #1 doc spot on iTunes this week. This response goes a long way to helping us break even.I feel good about that. Other things — not so much.New Zealand finally has a new government, and ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    5 days ago
  • Thank you Captain Luxon. Was that a landing, or were we shot down?
    Hello! Here comes the Saturday edition of More Than A Feilding, catching you up on the past week’s editions.Also in More Than A FeildingFriday The unboxing And so this is Friday and what have we gone and done to ourselves?In the same way that a Christmas present can look lovely under the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • Cans of Worms.
    “And there’ll be no shortage of ‘events’ to test Luxon’s political skills. David Seymour wants a referendum on the Treaty. Winston wants a Royal Commission of Inquiry into Labour’s handling of the Covid crisis. Talk about cans of worms!”LAURIE AND LES were very fond of their local. It was nothing ...
    6 days ago
  • Disinformation campaigns are undermining democracy. Here’s how we can fight back
    This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article. Misinformation is debated everywhere and has justifiably sparked concerns. It can polarise the public, reduce health-protective behaviours such as mask wearing and vaccination, and erode trust in science. Much of misinformation is spread not ...
    6 days ago
  • Peters as Minister
    A previous column looked at Winston Peters biographically. This one takes a closer look at his record as a minister, especially his policy record.1990-1991: Minister of Māori Affairs. Few remember Ka Awatea as a major document on the future of Māori policy; there is not even an entry in Wikipedia. ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    6 days ago
  • The New Government: 2023 Edition
    So New Zealand has a brand-spanking new right-wing government. Not just any new government either. A formal majority coalition, of the sort last seen in 1996-1998 (our governmental arrangements for the past quarter of a century have been varying flavours of minority coalition or single-party minority, with great emphasis ...
    6 days ago
  • The unboxing
    And so this is Friday and what have we gone and done to ourselves?In the same way that a Christmas present can look lovely under the tree with its gold ribbon but can turn out to be nothing more than a big box holding a voucher for socks, so it ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • A cruel, vicious, nasty government
    So, after weeks of negotiations, we finally have a government, with a three-party cabinet and a time-sharing deputy PM arrangement. Newsroom's Marc Daalder has put the various coalition documents online, and I've been reading through them. A few things stand out: Luxon doesn't want to do any work, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Hurrah – we have a new government (National, ACT and New Zealand First commit “to deliver for al...
    Buzz from the Beehive Sorry, there has been  no fresh news on the government’s official website since the caretaker trade minister’s press statement about the European Parliament vote on the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement. But the capital is abuzz with news – and media comment is quickly flowing – after ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • Christopher Luxon – NZ PM #42.
    Nothing says strong and stable like having your government announcement delayed by a day because one of your deputies wants to remind everyone, but mostly you, who wears the trousers. It was all a bit embarrassing yesterday with the parties descending on Wellington before pulling out of proceedings. There are ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Coalition Government details policies & ministers
    Winston Peters will be Deputy PM for the first half of the Coalition Government’s three-year term, with David Seymour being Deputy PM for the second half. Photo montage by Lynn Grieveson for The KākāTL;DR: PM-Elect Christopher Luxon has announced the formation of a joint National-ACT-NZ First coalition Government with a ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • “Old Coat” by Peter, Paul & Mary.
     THERE ARE SOME SONGS that seem to come from a place that is at once in and out of the world. Written by men and women who, for a brief moment, are granted access to that strange, collective compendium of human experience that comes from, and belongs to, all the ...
    6 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 23-November-2023
    It’s Friday again! Maybe today we’ll finally have a government again. Roll into the weekend with some of the articles that caught our attention this week. And as always, feel free to add your links and observations in the comments. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    6 days ago
  • Geoffrey Miller: New Zealand’s strategy for COP28 in Dubai
    The COP28 countdown is on. Over 100 world leaders are expected to attend this year’s UN Climate Change Conference in in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), which starts next Thursday. Among the VIPs confirmed for the Dubai summit are the UK’s Rishi Sunak and Brazil’s Lula da Silva – along ...
    Democracy ProjectBy Geoffrey Miller
    7 days ago
  • Coalition talks: a timeline
    Media demand to know why a coalition government has yet to be formed. ...
    My ThinksBy boonman
    7 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to Nov 24
    Luxon was no doubt relieved to be able to announce a coalition agreement has been reached, but we still have to wait to hear the detail. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / Getty ImagesTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political economy that we wrote and spoke about via The Kākā ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    7 days ago
  • Passing Things Down.
    Keeping The Past Alive: The durability of Commando comics testifies to the extended nature of the generational passing down of the images, music, and ideology of the Second World War. It has remained fixed in the Baby Boomers’ consciousness as “The Good War”: the conflict in which, to a far ...
    7 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #47 2023
    Open access notables How warped are we by fossil fuel dependency? Despite Russia's invasion of Ukraine, 35-40 million cubic meters per day of Russian natural gas are piped across Ukraine for European consumption every single day, right now. In order to secure European cooperation against Russian aggression, Ukraine must help to ...
    7 days ago

  • New Zealand welcomes European Parliament vote on the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement
    A significant milestone in ratifying the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement (FTA) was reached last night, with 524 of the 705 member European Parliament voting in favour to approve the agreement. “I’m delighted to hear of the successful vote to approve the NZ-EU FTA in the European Parliament overnight. This is ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Further humanitarian support for Gaza, the West Bank and Israel
    The Government is contributing a further $5 million to support the response to urgent humanitarian needs in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel, bringing New Zealand’s total contribution to the humanitarian response so far to $10 million. “New Zealand is deeply saddened by the loss of civilian life and the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago

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