I’d phone a friend but they’re all Young Nats too

Written By: - Date published: 12:30 pm, July 23rd, 2010 - 113 comments
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Halfcaste interviews a selection of Young Nats at their recent conference.

Interviewer: “What’s your favourite tribe?”

Young Nat: “To be honest I don’t have a favourite Maori tribe”

Interviewer: “Top three?”

Young Nat: “Ahh… I don’t think I know…”

Interviewer: “Don’t know any Maori tribes?”

Young Nat: “Noooo… No, hang on, Maori tribes… no sorry…”

The clip below’s just a teaser, you can watch the whole thing here including cameos from Nikki “Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome” Kaye and Simon “A hand up rather than a hand out” Bridges.

113 comments on “I’d phone a friend but they’re all Young Nats too”

  1. This is really good satire. Labour youth must be involved in this.

    It is satire isn’t it? You mean …

  2. Jim Nald 2

    Those two would make fantastic National cabinet ministers for a fresh, ambitious New Zealand future.

  3. Lew 3

    Outstanding. Made my day.

    L

  4. Maggie 4

    Don’t dis the Young Nats, their parties are legendary!

    • blueboy 4.1

      I beleive their parties are legendary, at least they pay for their own booze unlike young Labour who tend to steal their booze.

      • loota 4.1.1

        Nah blueboy, I don’t think Young Nats have to pay for their own booze. that’s disengenuous, just grab the glenfiddich from the folks’ liquor cabinet. And aren’t these the kinds of parents who are quite happy to supply their teenage kids with shedloads of alcopops for their after ball bashes?

      • Ari 4.1.2

        Bah, the Young Nats have effectively stolen theirs through class warfare anyway :p

  5. vto 5

    ha ha, just like the msm, pick out the best/worst and abandon all sense of balance.

    but seriously those two came across as lacking some basic basics.

    • Fisiani 5.1

      But what a stupid question. What is your favourite tribe? How about asking what is your favourite town council ? What is your favourite company? What a total non story.

      • BLiP 5.1.1

        Yours would have been a better response than what those spotty brats came up with. Its actually a great story in that it exposes the youth within National Ltdâ„¢ as the pig ignorant white trash rejects that they are. Even if you can’t perceive that, it was still full of lols which, in my book, makes it a very worthy story.

  6. just saying 6

    Cheers for that.

    Just can’t have too many laughs out-loud in a day!

    I recommend watching the whole thing to anyone with ten minutes to spare, though it is kind of disturbing……

  7. felix 7

    Watching these Mouseketeers contrasted with the child-stars Nikki and Simon and further comparing them to the full grown Nats there’s a disturbing realisation that these people never grow up, never change, and never learn anything. Except their lines. They do get slightly better at the lines. But not that much better.

    • Tigger 7.1

      Was Simon Bridges actually speaking English? I could not understand a word he said. And who on earth told Kaye to emphasise that she doesn’t stand for equality of outcome? She makes a huge point of saying she believes in equal opportunity but NOT equal outcome. It’s the dumbest right wing spin I’ve heard in ages.

      • Richard 7.1.1

        I imagine it is because equality of outcome is communism, or something.

        • Rosy 7.1.1.1

          That would be funny if it wasn’t so horrifying. Should have asked them what their ideas for equal opportunity were given people start from different places …

  8. BLiP 8

    And these people want a say in the running of Aotearoa? And that woman is from South Side?? I despair.

  9. george 9

    Felix, that’s because they don’t need to grow up. They’re cossetted by privilege and never have to face the realities that force most people to grow. The irony is they then tell people who have a lot of real world experience like nurses, teachers and union members that they don’t understand the “real world”.

  10. djp 10

    answer: “Visigoths!”

    If it is ok to have a favourite tribe is it ok to have a favourite race?

    • george 10.1

      Are you asking that because you prefer whites to non-whites and would like to be able to say so?

      • djp 10.1.1

        No georgie I am just wondering if there is a double standard there.

        I could have just as easily said Olkhunut.

        Am I the only one who thinks it is weird to expect all NZ’ers to have a favourite Maori tribe? None of the Maoris I have known (not huge numbers but still) have ever mentioned any of the particulars so I am unaware of what differences there are between Maori tribes… this makes it hard to pick a favourite.

        • Richard 10.1.1.1

          As Lew says, the point is that it isn’t a sensible question.

          The question is a joke. The young Nats are the punchline.

          But this goes totally over the heads of the young Nats.

          • felix 10.1.1.1.1

            … and others apparently.

            Next djp will be saying it’s not fair ‘cos they didn’t go and ask any young maori what their favourite celtic clan is.

            • djp 10.1.1.1.1.1

              I dont care about fairness.. the interviewer can ask whatever he likes.

              It doesnt seem obvious that it is a joke question either (esp considering the channel). Plenty of people get asked these kind of questions and the answers have a real effect.

        • BLiP 10.1.1.2

          Am I the only one who thinks it is weird to expect all NZ’ers to have a favourite Maori tribe? None of the Maoris I have known (not huge numbers but still) have ever mentioned any of the particulars so I am unaware of what differences there are between Maori tribes this makes it hard to pick a favourite.

          This comment is wrong on so many levels. At least we have a clear illustration of the level of deliberate ignorance out there. Trouble is, how can anyone make these people *want* to know.

          • djp 10.1.1.2.1

            good on you then.. if it is wrong on so many levels you should be able to come up with some substance rather then just trash talking

            • Harry 10.1.1.2.1.1

              Now you want substance? You right-whingers abandoned the substance high-ground years ago. And now you only clamour for it when you’re beat. Suck it up loser.

              • djp

                I am not a right winger and your argument amounts to “neener neener”

                Unfortunately there are no winners in this level of discourse

            • BLiP 10.1.1.2.1.2

              The plural for Maori is Maori. How can you say you “know” a Maori if you don’t know their iwi affiliation? If none of the Maori you say you know haven’t told you their affiliation means you can’t answer the question then that indicates you have never bothered to find out for yourself. Etc etc etc . . .

              • djp

                My best friend for a couple of years was my half cast neighbour named Winara, his tribe never came up as a part of conversation. Either he wasnt a real Maori or you are full of it when you say you cant know a Maori if you dont know their tribe.

                I did learn a new way to pronounce Taupo though

                • Harry

                  Some of my best friends are maoris.

                • BLiP

                  That it didn’t come up in conversation or that you weren’t interested enough to ask fits nicely with your use of the term “half caste”. I note you didn’t respond the fact that you need a Maori to tell you which tribe is best because you can’t be arsed checking it out for yourself. Tell me, what’s the first five lines of the national anthem in Maori?

                  • djp

                    well I guess a white dude chilling out with a brown dude just isnt good enough for you is it?

                    You are right though, I cant be bothered learning about Maori tribes and similar topics because smug assholes like you turn me off the subject altogether.

                    • Harry

                      Some of my best friends are maaaoris. We chill out together all the time. Man.

                    • BLiP

                      You’d better hurry up and join the YoungNats, then.

                    • djp

                      piss off Harry… you never once asked me my tribe, Im just starting to think you dont care enough

                    • felix

                      Maaaaris are alright as long as they keep all that maaaaari stuff to themselves.

                    • djp

                      Seriously.. you guys all seem like weirdo PC freaks to me.

                      If not looking at the world through brown colored glasses makes me a racist prick then so be it.

                    • Harry

                      Oh noez djp has been turned off! It’s not all about you little fella. Despite what your mum told you.

                    • BLiP

                      heh! classic!!

                      Funny how “PC” has gone from being a bit of an in-joke amongst lefties to a pejorative term bandied about by RWNJ trolls. Even more amusing is the fact that the trolls can’t explain what “politically correct” actually means when they use it except to describe it as some kind of mind-control mechanism the supah-sekrit Socialist planetary overlords have stuffed down their throats via the panty waisted liberal media so that they can’t use the word n1gger any more.

                      djp – why don’t you and your imaginary maaaari friend go to your room. Its past your bedtime.

                    • Ari

                      PC is still an in-joke among lefties, the righties just don’t realise it yet. 🙂

    • Lew 10.2

      If the hapless young Tory had responded with something like “that’s a weird question, tribes aren’t something you just pick as favourites” it would have been to her considerable credit. But that would have required her to have actually thought about the topic.

      L

      • djp 10.2.1

        Fair enough.. they did seem like muppets

      • Rex Widerstrom 10.2.2

        Fair point I guess, but as I was reading down the transcript my first thought was “Isn’t that some obscure question about hiphop music? Are they trying to show the young Nats are un-hip?”.

        I’ve faced all sorts of live interviews on all sorts of topics in my time and that question would have thrown me completely because it is so weird and there’s no right answer. And human nature is such that no one wants to say “I have NFI what you’re talking about” only to realise they’ve misheard or misunderstood and then come off loking like a prat.

        Even asking “Please explain?” didn’t exactly do wonders for the politician who resorted to it 😉

  11. outofbed 12

    An observation

    Young Greens? Not a black brown or yellow face amongst them, all Vote Green
    Young Nats? Not a black brown or yellow face amongst them, most Vote Act
    Young Labour? A few brown black or yellow faces, most Vote Green

  12. loota 13

    These Young Nats are going to become fast friends with Maori Tv, I can see it now. Don’t they even bother to read the news about Key and Tuhoe?

    Bizarrely uninformed and unaware for aspiring young politicians.

    captcha: CLEARLY

  13. tc 14

    Just like the senior nat’s….don’t let knowledge/rational thought/evidence and logic get in the way of your ideology….blinkers on and off we go into the wild blue yonder.

    Reminds me of that young ones episode where Emma Thomson/Stephen Fry and Ben Elton played the footlights college toffs on University Challenge……just with a kiwi 21st century twist.

  14. Mostyn 15

    Shouldn’t make fun of the kids I suppose, but that was very, very funny.

  15. Jim Nald 16

    Ok, I watched that longer version and was blinking so much in disbelief that my contact lenses nearly both fell out. Is the clip for real??

    Comments after watching it … what to say?

    An embarrassment of riches

  16. Brett 17

    What is this Maori nation the interviewer speaks of ?
    Also favourite Maori tribe ?
    WTF.

    • Lew 17.1

      No comment thread about ethnic politics is complete without Brett turning up and utterly misunderstanding everything about it.

      L

      • Brett 17.1.1

        Just watched the whole vid
        Jeez what a wanker that guy from Maori TV is, what an ego.

        • Richard 17.1.1.1

          Yay!

          That’s nearly(!) as funny as the original.

          Well done Brett.

        • loota 17.1.1.2

          Mate, I guess its tough not to feel superior when you’re shooting fish in a barrel.

    • Bill 17.2

      That really does take the biscuit Bret.

      At least the kids on the vid have a bit of an excuse insofar as they were in front of a TV camera being interviewed and had to offer instant responses in an unfamiliar situation.

      You, though, have no excuses. Maybe you really do need to sue your parents?

  17. The point is Brett that if you live in Aotearoa and expect to be a leader and cannot name even one Maori tribe then you have a serious hole in your knowledge that should be justification for preventing you from ever holding office …

  18. Brett 19

    Yes I agree you should be able to name at least one Maori tribe, but what’s your favourite tribe,honestly how do you answer that?.
    I like Tuhoe because they always have heaps of piss owww ?

    • Richard 19.1

      Brett, how would you answer the question:

      “What is your favorite magazine to read?”

    • fraser 19.2

      brett “but what’s your favourite tribe,honestly how do you answer that?.”

      how about something like – “well i wouldnt want to pick a favourite but [insert tribe] has done some good things”

      that would suffice surely?
      (of course, thats in hind site – and im sure anyone of us could easily look like a bit of a twit when put on the spot)

    • felix 19.3

      Thing is, Brett, a question in an interview (as opposed to a quiz) is really just an invitation to speak briefly on a subject.

      If you have nothing – nothing at all – to say on that huge, huge subject (or just something stupid like your comment above) then that in itself speaks volumes about you.

      Gee I wish Brett Dale were here – at least he’d be amusing for while. This other Brett is just sad.

    • what’s your favourite tribe,honestly how do you answer that?.

      The thing is the future of the National Party obviously could not name any tribe. They should have come out with anything like Nga Puhi, Ngati Porou, Tainui, Ngai Tahu or any other tribe.

      It was a great question. It was far worse not to answer than to answer.

      • comedy 19.4.1

        How about if they’d said Ngati benephiti, Ngati tai troughy, and Parekura’s tribe Ngati phery phati

        • Harry 19.4.1.1

          haha – you’re a racist! Got a few self-respect problems you’re compensating for there racist?

          • comedy 19.4.1.1.1

            Yes like this guy.

            • Harry 19.4.1.1.1.1

              No. More like a sad racist you. Be proud and own it. Or alternatively keep digging. It’s the funniest thing I’ve seen from you so far, “comedy”.

        • BLiP 19.4.1.2

          Playing the race card again, Comedy? I would have expected higher standards from you given your wee tanty the other day.

          • comedy 19.4.1.2.1

            I hear you lurve the cock

            • Harry 19.4.1.2.1.1

              I’ve hear you haven’t even got a cock to speak of. Seems about right.

            • BLiP 19.4.1.2.1.2

              Which particular cock are you referring to – John Key?

              • comedy

                He’ll do, or anyone on the other side of the house, or Felix or Harry who appears to have joined the happy group of tame trolls.

            • Ari 19.4.1.2.1.3

              You know, some of us who comment here actually are queer, (or even straight women :P) Comedy. 😛

              • comedy

                And most like yourslf and Uroskin are intelligent

                • Ari

                  What does that have to do with the inappropriateness of implying that being GLBTQI is somehow insulting?

                  If you respect queers, (in specific or in general) you shouldn’t do it. >:(

                  • comedy

                    What is insulting about lurving the cock ?

                    Don’t plenty of people lurve the cock ?

                    I don’t disrespect or respect queers – most of the time I wouldn’t have a clue who was or wasn’t queer.

  19. Luke 20

    Woo, bunch of lefties bagging on national supporters.
    You’re not adding anything to NZ politics by sitting on your computer dissing these guys. Everybody knows Maori tribe names but in an interview situation I’m sure it’s hard to think.

    If it were Young Labour in this interview, everyone here would be saying ‘oh hey don’t be mean to them, it was a bad question’ or ‘they were under pressure’ or something. So don’t go acting all sanctimonious.

    • Lew 20.1

      Woulda shoulda coulda. Leave it out, chap, they were asked a sharp question and choked.

      L

      • IrishBill 20.1.1

        Everybody knows Maori tribe names but in an interview situation I’m sure it’s hard to think.

        That sounds a bit nanny state liberal to me. Whatever happened to standing on your own merits and taking personal responsibility?

    • felix 20.2

      Luke,

      When you’re the butt of a joke that you don’t get, it doesn’t help to cry foul.

  20. Cnr Joe 21

    Toi Iti is it?
    He’s great, Tamas son I suppose?

  21. DS 22

    How hard is it to say: I’ve really admired how Ngai Tahu/Tainui/Ngati Porou have done great work in [x].

    Eg – being a South Islander I (hope) I would have said ‘I’m impressed by the work Ngai Tahu have put into furthering tertiary education by their intelligent use of redevelopment of land etc’

    Failing that: All of them.

  22. RedFred 23

    funny

  23. BLiP 24

    Sorry – but I just can’t over this video. I called a couple of my nephews aged 12 and 13 on the pakeha branch of te whanau and asked them the same question. The older one said: “they’re all good, why’s that?” Good Answer. The younger one, although he got it completely wrong, said “Parihaka because of what happened”.

    Remind me to buy my sister a bunch of flowers – I might even shout her National Ltdâ„¢ voting husband a beer next time I see him.

    • Anne 24.1

      Watched video 3 times now. They fascinate me. So thick! I’m picking they went to private schools where they learnt bugger-all about Maori. Standard of education below par… yet the private schools are exempt from National Standards!

      As for the loony mantra “I believe in equality of opportunity but not equality of outcome”. What’s it supposed to mean? That everyone should have the opportunity to learn to read and write, but only the privileged few (such as themselves) should be able to go on to have successful, fulfilling and lucrative (emphasis on lucrative) careers? It beggars belief.

      • BLiP 24.1.1

        Those vapid cretins seem to live in an alternate universe where everyone is like them, or wants to be, and all they have to do is recite their rote-learned lines without the application of thought. In fact, the application of thought would be detrimental to any acceptance they might receive from their peer group.

        The mantra is the epitome of the blame culture thinking whereby: you deserve what you get because you had same the opportunity. It is also a classic example of the primary failure in economics: namely, in establishing any model the primary assumption is that “all things being equal”. Thus, its possible to postulate that if everyone goes to school, everyone has the same chance of success provided they make the same effort. Trouble is, how does that account for the fact that some of the kids arrive at school barefoot and hungry, or others have dyslexia, some have computers and some don’t, and so on. To see re-framed economic babble spouted in relation to the social areas of politics by youth is a frightening glimpse into the future of Aotearoa.

  24. RedFred 25

    Although someone just got banned for posting another sketch by Halfcaste over at Red Alert.

  25. Descendant Of Smith 26

    Sorry but it’s hard not to feel embarrassed when young people who aspire to be leaders can’t even play a simple word association game and name at least their local tribe, let alone any of the well known tribes in NZ.

    Sure some of that simply reflects urbanisation – city folks huh but for goodness sake what country do they think they are living in?

    These kids are going to have to face a NZ with all the baby boomers dead and 50% of the workforce non-white.

    They ain’t got a hope in hell.

    • loota 26.1

      That’s why they’re all going over to Oz to do university or careers.

    • Gosman 26.2

      Because the names of tribes come up a lot in the average workplace.

      LOL!

      • Harry 26.2.1

        And so do classical economic theories. Lol!

        • felix 26.2.1.1

          I like the way you roll, Harry.

          • Harry 26.2.1.1.1

            yeah but they be hatin. (theirselfs mainly).

          • Descendant Of Smith 26.2.1.1.2

            “Because the names of tribes come up a lot in the average workplace.”

            I’ve worked in a few workplaces from working in the bush, to abattoirs, to retail, to the disability sector, community organisations and banking.

            The only normal workplace that had no discussion about Maori and Iwi and what was happening on a particular marae was in the banking industry – which was predominantly white and in terms of management almost exclusively male – I remember when the ANZ bank appointed the first female accountant in Australasia.

            I guess your definition of a normal workplace and mine are poles apart. As I noted earlier I suspect urbanisation plays a significant part but for us country boys it was just part of everyday life born out of a commonality of living in the same community.

            • Ari 26.2.1.1.2.1

              Even being an urbanite is no excuse. I live in an almost entirely white suburban “paradise”, but I could name three or four tribes off the top of my head.

              It’s a matter of putting in some effort to your social education. Out in the country you have to do that, but privileged people in the cities seem to think it’s optional to be aware of the wider community.

  26. Kevin Welsh 27

    Now I know what Tim Nice But Dim, did when he left school.

  27. ak 28

    “No hang on…. Maori tribes….”

    Watch it a dozen times and weep for the future.

    As the grotesque, Mauler Benefit/Thatcherite “confident woman” tory appropriation of progressive feminist gain attaches the equally-obscene GrinnyKey “love me for my ignorance” appropriation of respect for the simpleton – and crystallises, fatally, into classic pathos.

    Morbid fascination, with a word for the wise:

    Ae, Tariana, this is how they’re raised.
    Deliberately.
    And determinedly.
    Hone’s right.
    Be advised.

    Ano. Play it again – and again and again, Haami.

  28. Lew 29

    Sure lends a bit of context to the finding of UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights James Anaya — that the status of te reo Māori is somewhat hollow, since it’s an official language which isn’t actually taught.

    L

  29. vto 30

    This is a classic re-run of Dr Suess’s “Butter Battle Book”.

    • comedy 30.1

      You’ll like this then.

    • felix 30.2

      The Butter Battle was about two parallel societies, each equally ignorant of the other.

      This really isn’t like that at all, v.

    • vto 30.3

      Yes I do like that mr comedy.

      Felix, perhaps its not in the wider context but it certainly is when it comes to young pollies buttering up each others buttering bits.

      btw, anyone ever try buttering their toast butter-side down? Clearly one society is all upside-down about things…..

      • felix 30.3.1

        Ok then. This is just like Mullholand Drive, maybe not in any specific way but there’s people and a party and dialogue.

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    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    4 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    6 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • The obvious question
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    7 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago

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