Key’s green mask slips

Written By: - Date published: 9:46 am, May 19th, 2008 - 32 comments
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Last year John Key announced National’s ‘Blue-Green’ Strategy. It contained the first shadow of acknowledgment from National that climate change is a serious issue: a target to reduce greenhouse gas emission to 50% of 1990 levels by 2050. Of course, setting a target for a time when most of your MPs will be dead is easy; the hard part is coming up with an actual policy to get there, and the Blue-Green strategy provided no hint of how National would go about making reductions happen.

Now, there is a reductions policy going through the legislative process. The Emissions Trading Scheme is late in coming and weak but will start a reduction in New Zealand’s emissions, sufficient to save New Zealand half a billion dollars off the cost of buying carbon credits for failing to meet the reductions target we pledged in the Kyoto Protocol. And National, after yet another flip-flop, now opposes the ETS.

In fact, National has opposed every concrete measure to reduce greenhouse emissions. First, the livestock levy (hilariously nicknamed the Fart tax), then the carbon tax, and now the ETS. Sure it has an excuse: ‘the ETS is being developed too hurriedly’ (we’re six years into its development) but what this really comes down to is that National will always put the short-term interests of big business (= big emitters) first, ahead of doing anything to reduce emissions. It’s all very well to speak of halving emissions by 2050 but, when push comes to shove, National has shown it will always do nothing.

Key talks a big game on climate change (and on incomes, emigration, infrastructure, health, education, and productivity) but his words are hollow. When it comes time to actually do something, to get behind real work that will make a difference, Key is always missing in action.

[The Greens should support the ETS, to ensure it passes. It is flawed but now it is clear that there will be no serious emissions reductions policy under a National government. The ETS is the only game in town, and the Greens owe it to the environment to play. In return for their support, the Greens should demand more Government funding for helping households transition to low-carbon technologies.]

32 comments on “Key’s green mask slips”

  1. gobsmacked 1

    There’s an excellent summary by No Right Turn:

    http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2008/05/climate-change-national-on-emissions.html

    Breathtaking stuff from Key, really.

  2. higherstandard 2

    Good on Key for rejecting this crappy piece of legislation in it’s current form.

    SP your comment that “The Greens should support the ETS, to ensure it passes. It is flawed but now it is clear that there will be no serious emissions reductions policy under a National government. ”

    I find bizarre – perhaps those that are keen for the ETS should perhaps vote for the Greens rather than anyone else as if anyone’s green mask is slipping surely it’s the current government receiving hollow international awards while their actual record is less than spectacular.

  3. rjs131 3

    Hold on, are you suggesting that Key is wrong for not supporting a piece of legislation that you admit is flawed?? If something is flawed, isnt their a duty for MPs to fix those flaws? If there are to be changes isnt then a duty for those MPs to consult those who will be drastically affected by it? What is wrong with not wanting to rush this through or are you confident that the law of common sense, which has worked so well inthe EFA will prevail in this instance.

  4. They oppose it in its current form. Get your shit straight Steve. It’s a piece of shit legislation that deserves to be rejected.

  5. The ETS is too timid and it is late (the EU has had carbon trading for several years) but at least it is a start.

    It is not being rushed through, it is the result of 6 years of policy work.

    National will find a reason to oppose any climate change legislation.

    No need for the language, infused.

  6. There is when everything you post is misleading. They are trying to rush it now, just the the EFB.

  7. higherstandard 7

    And would you say the EU ETS has been a blinding success SP ?

  8. Finally there is a politician who just doesn’t jump on the climate change bandwagon because its popular.

    Hopefully we will finally get a proper debate about Climate change in this country and not one that just preys on peoples emotions.

  9. erikter 9

    “The Greens should support the ETS, to ensure it passes.”

    Of course they will support the ETS. The Greens are suckers for punishment at will do whatever Labour tell them to do.

    Wait for Russell and Jeanette to utter the words agreeing to support this bill. Ah, the watermelon Greens!

  10. Brett.

    The scientific debate on climate change has been settled for 40 years.

    180 nations signed the Framework Convention on Climate Change in 1992. Now is the time to actually start doing something, rather than always looking for excuses for inaction.

    HS. Emissions are falling in Europe and GDP growth is been unaffected. I’d call that success.

  11. TomS 11

    The business elites in New Zealand are amongst the most unimaginative and mediocre in the world and they cling to outdated new right economic mantras. Given that, its not surprising they are obstinate andeluvian climate change deniers. Their strategy has been clear for some time now: In public accept that climate change is happening and reluctantly agree something should be done whilst in private and via their various lobby groups oppose tooth and nail any initiatives at all in the hope that if they stall long enough they’ll get a National government who will park the whole thing for at least three and hopefully six years. Then they’ll can forget about the whole thing and when the chickens come home to roost blame the government for inaction.

  12. Lew 12

    The question here is whether an imperfect scheme soon is better than a perfect scheme at some unspecified point in the future. There’s a sliding-scale here: material considerations are how imperfect, and at what point in the future. Both the Greens and the maori party have major misgivings about the bill, but if they fail to support it as drafted it won’t pass before the election, and they’d risk leaving it to an incoming National government.

    If they don’t support it the quality of the scheme rests on the outcome of the election. If Labour wins, the scheme would probably be better (from a Green perspective) than it is now because if they win, they’ll almost certainly need both parties (current polling 14 seats) for support, and that means compromise. However its implementation would be delayed about a year. The stronger scheme would likely result in better Kyoto compliance overall despite the delay in implementation, so this represents a small net win for the Greens amd maori party in terms of policy and a large net win for them in terms of their influence in government.

    If National wins, the year’s delay is a minimum figure; given the weakening economy, I believe National would be inclined to delay further. In addition, the resulting bill would probably be worse (from a Green perspective). Significant net loss in terms of both the quality of the policy from their perspective and their influence in government.

    Applying the precautionary principle, there is no question that the Greens and the maori party should support the ETS bill as drafted for passage before the election. To do otherwise shows a recklessly high degree of confidence in Labour to win the election.

    L

  13. higherstandard 13

    SP

    From Swedish Green MP Max Andersson regarding the EU ETS

    ?There has so-far been limited questioning of the hazy assertion that the EU is good for the environment. This new study from Open Europe attempts to challenge this claim, arguing that real environmentalists should be very sceptical indeed of the EU?s record on this area.?

    ?The EU doesn?t need an Constitution to fight climate change – it simply needs the political will to develop policies that work.?

    Almost everyone acknowledges that the first phase of the system – running from 2005 to 2007 – has been a failure: more permits to pollute have been printed than there is pollution. The price of carbon has collapsed to almost zero, creating no incentive to reduce pollution.

  14. gobsmacked 14

    “Finally there is a politician who just doesn’t jump on the climate change bandwagon because its popular.”

    You aren’t referring to John Key are you? He’s been on the bandwagon since he saw Al Gore’s movie! And only because THAT was popular.

    Quiz time: what was John Key’s first question in Parliament to Helen Clark, after he became National leader? Guess …

  15. T-rex 15

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10510954&pnum=2

    At the bottom of the page shown above is a series of questions posed by Key and addressed by Parker.

    I’m appalled by the recent swing in public opinion. Global warming is only a fraction of the issue, the ETS will change investment and development strategies for the better regardless of the accuracy of the climate change predictions. Regardless of whether we’re warming the globe, increased energy efficiency is still beneficial, oil based transport is a dead end tech, coal is a lousy power source, dairy is a horrendous polluter…
    To think that all it takes is a spike in petrol price and interest rates to make people abandon rational thought and lunge for the false security of short term cost reductions. The ETS certainly won’t kill our economy, but it might save it.
    At the end of the day, the ETS is an R&D incentive. Which is the only thing that’s going to get us out of the hole we’re digging at present.
    By moving to abandon it, we’re only proving ourselves to be the short sighted suckers corporate strategists have always been able to count on.

  16. Peter Nelson 16

    SP – climate change science has not been settled for 40 years. 40 years ago we were heading for an ice age was the ‘consensus’.
    Science is not settled at all. Just the UN IPCC and the idiots who are paid by this scare that say it is ssttled.

  17. In fact, National has opposed every concrete measure to reduce greenhouse emissions

    You missed a few – notably, you missed National’s opposition even to measures they have proposed themselves.

    In 1992 National decided they would use the RMA to control emissions. The plan was effective, and in 1994 saw the Taranaki Combined Cycle gas turbine forced to offset its emissions in order to gain resource consent. National suddenly decided that wasn’t a good idea, and introduced a new proposal: get business to sign Negotiated Greenhouse Agreements to reduce emissions, and threaten a carbon tax if they didn’t. Busines signed the agreements and continued to pollute; National obediently backed down on the carbon tax at the last minute. In 1999 (based on policy work done in 1995) they floated a plan for a comprehensive emissions trading scheme to be introduced in ~2002. It would cover all gases and all sectors (sound familiar?) with auctioned permits and international tradeability. They pulled the plug at the last minute.

    This is a party pathologically unable to deal with climate change. In that context, their backflip over the weekend isn’t exactly surprising.

    Higherstandard: And would you say the EU ETS has been a blinding success SP ?

    The EU ETS had two major flaws. Firstly, countries overallocated – they gave out too many oermits in the name of “protecting competitiveness”, which reduced the effectiveness of the scheme. That has been fixed by central allocation. The second problem was that they grandfathered, which saw the scheme deliver large windfall profits to polluters. That has been fixed now by requiring all permits to be auctioned.

    Labour’s ETS would have avoided most of these mistakes. Permits were only grandfathered where prices could not be passed on – so our petrol and electricity companies would be laughing all the way to the bank. And there’s no internal bidding war for permits. Unfortunately, national’s consistent line of criticism has been to demand greater allocation and more grandparenting. It is they who want to repeat the EU’s errors, not Labour.

    Lew: The question here is whether an imperfect scheme soon is better than a perfect scheme at some unspecified point in the future.

    Having looked at this question in some detail, the answer is that it is better to have an imperfect policy which reduces emissions than a nonexistent perfect policy which doesn’t. Unfortunately, NZ policymakers have disagreed, and so we have repeatedly delayed policy and not had anything as backup while waiting for “the bugs to be ironed out”. The perfect has been the enemy of the good.

  18. Lew 18

    Peter Nelson: I agree – science is not settled. In science nothing is final – there are just things which haven’t been proven yet. That said, I hear this statement that only the IPCC believes in climate change quite often, in apparent denial of the fact that the IPCC represents the professional opinions of the vast majority of the world’s climate scientists. If you’re aware of another survey so broad-ranging which contradicts or even significantly challenges the IPCC’s findings, I’d love to see it.

    Saying `only the IPCC believes in climate change’ is like saying `only doctors believe smoking causes cancer’. Even if it were true, it’d be meaningless.

    L

  19. I/S. Thanks for the background on the 1990s, really interesting to see they looked at much of the same stuff but lost their nerve each time.

    It’s also interesting that during the 1990s there was a seriousness, an acceptance of climate change as a real problem to be dealt with, even if they didn’t actually do anything. It’s only once they went into opposition that their head in the sand denier traits came forward.

    Peter nelson. Talk to a scientist – people working on climatology since the 1950s have known that pumping all these gases into the atmosphere would enhance the greenhouse effect, they were actually confused because they didn’t see it happening – in fact what was happening was a general warming but over industrialised countries (where most temperature recording devices are) there was a lot sulphur dioxide, which creates acid rain and smog but also blots out the sun lowering temperatures. Once sulphur dioxide was brought under control the underlying increase in temperatures due to greenhouse gases became more apparent. No serious scientist, in fact no serious person, denies the fact of climate change.

  20. roger nome 20

    Peter:

    40 years ago we were heading for an ice age was the ‘consensus’.

    That isn’t true. The ice age theory was never mainstream science.

    Science is not settled at all. Just the UN IPCC

    You’re forgetting all of the National science academies of the industrialised world. 99% of the sceptics aren’t climate scientists, but property developers and the like.

  21. r0b 21

    The science certainly is settled. The basic anti-climate change arguments are well known and well refuted:

    http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/mg19426041.100
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/629/629/7074601.stm

    The effects are tangible and they are happening now. Arctic ice has retreated so much that new shipping lanes have opened up, and there are looming international debates over newly accessible mineral, oil and fishing rights:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/10/science/10arctic.html
    http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/arctic.html

    As well as Arctic (and Antarctic) ice melt, glaciers (one of the most sensitive indicators of global warming) are receding world wide – see dramatic images here:

    http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/glaciers.html

    The overwhelming body of scientific evidence is now agreed by the overwhelming majority of scientists:

    http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier

    On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is “unequivocal,’ and that human activity has “very likely’ been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had “likely’ played a role.

    The scientific argument is as close to over as science gets. That’s why governments all over the world (and many individual states in America) are taking action to combat climate change.

  22. Luke C 22

    The true face of National and Key is really starting to show up in the last few days. The anti MMP statements and the turnaround on Climate Change shows they are really are being controlled by the business elite. Hopefully the public will starty to realise this. This is why the election is far from over.

  23. Phil 23

    “No serious scientist, in fact no serious person, denies the fact of climate change”

    I recall that in the 1600’s no serious person believed that the earth orbited the sun. They all thought it was the other way around. Oh, they also thought the earth was flat. Then along came Copernicus and shook things up.

    No serious scientists in the late 1800’s thought there was anything left to discover – we had atoms, and there couldnt be anything smaller than that! Then along came our own Rutherford, split one open, and all this otehr crap came flying out…

    As far as I am concerned, there is no such thing in science, or economics, or climateology, as “certain”. Only varying degree’s of “maybe”. To do otherwise makes you a cheap salesmen.

  24. Lew 24

    Phil: Of course, but lacking 20/20 hindsight, would you have sided with Copernicus before he’d proven it? Or Rutherford before he’d split one?

    L

  25. Phil.

    “I recall that in the 1600’s no serious person believed that the earth orbited the sun. They all thought it was the other way around. Oh, they also thought the earth was flat. Then along came Copernicus and shook things up.”

    a – that’s stupid, it had been known since ancient times that the earth was a sphere orbiting the sun, it just didn’t fit with Christian mythology.

    b – that’s stupid, just because once a upon a time people believed something and it was wrong doesn’t mean that everything people believe now is wrong. You have to present evidence in the present case. You can’t do that, that’s why you’re resorting to pathetic comments about a flat earth.

  26. Phil 26

    I probably wouldn’t have, and neither would you.
    =)

    Of course, if we choose to learn from the lessons of the past, we won’t threaten to burn anyone at the stake just becasue their ‘non-believers’ or ‘deniers’.

    Actually, I’ve just had a disturbing thought; is it possible the persecution of opposers to climate change could become our generations McCarthy trials?

  27. AncientGeek 27

    Peter Nelson:

    40 years ago we were heading for an ice age was the ‘consensus’.

    Bullshit. What you are talking about was a couple of people in the northern hemisphere looking at their local temperature records from the late 60’s and early 70’s. The media picked it up as headlines.

    It had nothing to do with any science. It was an observation of a local aberration in northern europe and north eastern US. The numbers from this area of the world did not show similar effects.

    In the end they tracked it down to mainly being due to the particulate matter being tossed out from smokestacks. After the clean air legislation caused particle scrubbers to be installed in chimney stacks, the temperatures started tracking with the rest of the world again.

    So what you just described was an early local instance of human instigated climate change. Just like the pea-souper fogs in london earlier in that century.

    If you’re going to argue about stuff in one of my areas of knowledge – how about bringing yourself up to the point of knowing the urban myths.

  28. AncientGeek 28

    Phil:

    Actually, I’ve just had a disturbing thought; is it possible the persecution of opposers to climate change could become our generations McCarthy trials

    Personally I wish that they’d just learn enough science to be worth the effort of arguing with them.

    As far as I can tell, I’ve never seen a person trained in earth sciences or climatology disagree with the proposition of human induced climate change. They just argue about how far the effects will go.

    What I see are engineers, chemists. physicists, and various other disciplines talking about things they don’t appear to understand. Then a pile of untrained idiots grabbing it as justifications for their gut-feelings.

  29. darryl p 29

    What I find ironic is that the government are annoyed at the main government opposition for not supporting one of the governments key policies. I’ve read in this blog time and again how Helen is such a master of MMP, and yet she can’t get her own supply partners to push the ETS through. If anything Labours frustration should be aimed at them not National.

    If the Greens have misgivings about the changes that Labour have made to the ETS I think that’s fair enough, afterall they are the Green party and enviromental matters are what they have built their party on. If Labour want the Greens to play ball then they have to have a policy that the Greens are happy to sign off on – not change it without consulting them.

    If Labour try and push through a policy that their own partners are not happy with – in the hope that their main opposition will support them – then they are mad!

  30. Well, Labour wanted to build a consensus on the ETS, recognising it is a long-term policy with major economic imapcts. National had agreed to be part of it. Unfortunately, when push comes to shove National will always back way from doing anything about climate change.

    the weakening of the ETS that Labour made two weeks ago was really to try to shore up support from the centre parties (NZF and UF). It pissed the Greens off and rightly so but Labour has to try to make the numbers.

    I suspect that Labour can get both the Greens and NZF on board with some further policy deals and I think UF would have ended up opposing the scheme anyway because they’re hollow, just like National.

    it would also be very disappointing if the Maori party opposes the ETS.

  31. darryl p 31

    Fundamentally I still think all parties would want to support some sort of scheme that reduced the impact that we have on the environment.

    However, what Labour propose is different to what the Greens propose which is different to what National propose which is probably different again to what ACT, the Maori Party and UF propose.

    I can’t see this being anything but a lenghty process, one which is also unavoidable, but most likely worth it in the end.

    My personal verdict is out on whether there is such a thing as global warming or not – but that doesn’t change the fact that we are still morally bound to not trash the planet.

  32. Ari 32

    Steve- The Greens would support it if it were merely flawed. (and that was their opinion of the stronger ETS before Labour starting trying to engage National on it) However, the state that Labour was trying to pass it in was actively harmful to the environmental economy.

    The issue is essentially that it needs someone to cross the left-right divide of our parliament to get this legislation through, as it can’t be done by just the centre parties, (labour/NZF/UF) it can’t be done by the left parties, (labour/greens/maori) and it can’t be done by the right parties. (national/act/UF)

    The problem is that the left coalition would likely want an ETS that pushes change through at a respectable, if not particularly fast speed. But the centre and the right actively want to subsidise polluters by leaving them out of the ETS and stalling other anti-emissions measures as long as possible. (with them merely varying on exactly how much stalling and subsidising they want)

    The issue is essentially that this has already been 6 years in the making, and the unwillingness for even weak action on climate change is astounding, especially given that only Act and National have any public climate deniers in their parties.

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    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Contempt
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    6 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    6 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    7 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    7 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
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    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
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    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
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    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago

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