web analytics

Lockdown decision – which way will it go?

Written By: - Date published: 9:00 am, September 20th, 2021 - 171 comments
Categories: auckland supercity, covid-19, health - Tags:

Cabinet meets today to decide on the future of the lockdown levels in Aotearoa and more specifically on Tamaki Makaurau.

Yesterday I thought it was on a knife edge.  Numbers of cases had plateaued and most new infections had been quickly linked to existing cases.  The virus is that spreadable that households with 7 or 8 people were succumbing and the numbers were being affected by these results.

And, take a bow Aotearoa, the vaccination rates have surged, particularly in Tamaki Makaurau.  Latest reports are that 73% of the eligible population have had at least one vaccination shot.

There is some resistance to the lockdown. Wealthy people are struggling with the concept that a lockdown means no movement and no contact unless it is for limited purposes.  Reports of trips to Wanaka, Taupo and Wellington have surfaced and there has been some right wing indignation that no contact means not even having drinkies with your wealthy friends in your car port.

The rest of us are getting on with it.

I was cautiously confident that the increased vaccination levels and the decline in community cases with no clear source could mean that Tamaki Makaurau could go to level three.

But news this morning of an infection in the Waikato suggests that not only will level 4 be maintained but the geographical area may be extended.  From the Herald:

A leading expert says Waikato may have to move up an alert level following three positive cases in the region – including two school children, one of whom was symptomatic while in class.

Epidemiologist Michael Baker says the three new positive cases are “very frustrating” and now complicates things as Auckland waits to see if it will come out of alert level 4.

Speaking to TVNZ’s Breakfast on Monday, he said the cases – contacts of an on-bail Auckland prisoner who tested positive for the virus late last week – now threatens that move down in alert levels.

Baker added that officials may also now look at whether the Waikato region may have to move up to alert level 3, at least, as a result of the new positive cases.

When the response to the single initial Delta case appearing in Auckland a month ago it is difficult to see how the Government could do anything but the same to the Waikato.  And while there are any Auckland cases who have been infectious in the community the same approach would mean that the same level of caution will be required.

I am sorry people but I would be very surprised if Tamaki Makaurau’s levels were moved downwards today.  Although I expect the Cabinet will want to review the decision in the near future, presumably in a week’s time.

171 comments on “Lockdown decision – which way will it go? ”

  1. Ad 1

    Sure hope the Minister of Justice Andrew Little picked up the phone to the Chief District Court judge and gave them a bollocking for the fool judge who allowed the prisoner to be released on bail outside of the Auckland Level 4 area.

    And same goes for the lawyer who applied for such release in the first place.

    You would have thought the District Court bench had learned from the last covid breach from one of their children to keep it tight.

    • Muttonbird 1.1

      the fool judge

      District Court judge Mary Beth Sharp, perhaps?

      Why were these kids at school, one being symptomatic? Have people learned nothing?

      The PM was happy to put the blowtorch on families at the centre of the February outbreak, warning of consequences for not doing the right thing.

      Why the shift in policy? Too much pressure from the media?

      • McFlock 1.1.1

        Someone on twitter had the point that if the parents are both low-wage "essential", wtf can they realistically do if a kid has a slight sniffle? Sure, and the school should have immediately sent the kid home, but what if there was nobody at home?

        Upshot being that the country's vulnerabilities to covid are the long term structural problems we've done fuckall about for forty years.

        • Muttonbird

          No argument about long term structural problems, but there is support available for exactly this scenario, ie caregivers staying at home with sick kids.

          The message clearly isn't getting through.

          You can tell I'm angry and upset. With every passing week my whole industry is increasingly under threat. Once gone it might never return. I have people depending on me.

          • weka

            but there is support available for exactly this scenario, ie caregivers staying at home with sick kids.

            What support is there for that?

            • Muttonbird

              The Unite against Covid-19 website says:

              If you are sick

              If you have cold, flu or COVID-19 symptoms, stay home and call your doctor or Healthline on 0800 358 5453 for advice about getting tested.

              By getting a test, you are helping keep your community safe. Testing is always free for everyone.

              Staying at home if you are sick is one way to stop any possible spread of COVID-19.

              So the correct thing to do is to stay at home and call the healthline.

              Financial support

              COVID-19 Short-term Absence Payment

              If you are waiting for the results of a COVID-19 test, it is important you stay home until you get a negative result.

              If you cannot work from home, your employer can apply for the COVID-19 Short-Term Absence Payment for you so you can continue to get paid.

              With regards to the message getting through I accept that info on a government website it's going to reach everyone. That is where private sector employers in essential worker industries have to step up. Support is there, but it is driven by employers. Vulnerable employees need to know exactly what to do in each circumstance during a pandemic.


              • weka

                that's for people with covid or waiting for a test. I'm asking what support there is for someone with a child with respiratory symptoms when that person can't stay home and look after them.

                • Muttonbird

                  The correct thing to do is to call the healthline or doctor who would then advise to go get a test. You are to stay at home until the test result. There is financial support available for that.

                  • weka

                    You said,

                    Why were these kids at school, one being symptomatic? Have people learned nothing?

                    I'm asking what the parents of those kids should if they are unable to stay home from work to be with the kids so the kids don't go to school. In the first instance it's not anything to do with any of those people having covid.

                    What financial support is there for those parents in that situation? Be specific. And include financial support for parents who cannot stay home with the kids as well as those that can if they'd still get paid.

                    • weka

                      Because it sounds to me like NZ has learned nothing.

                    • alwyn

                      "Because it sounds to me like NZ has learned nothing".

                      Wo do you mean when you say NZ Weka? Everyone, or do you mean The Government and Officialdom?

                      Personally I think it quite fair to say that it is the Government and its Departments but not all the people in the country.

                    • weka

                      I was just riffing off Muttonbird's intolerance. You don't need to take it personally or universally. But obviously poverty in a NZ is a factor in the challenges to our covid response and much of NZ votes in the governments we have that have let poverty develop to this extent.

            • KJT

              As child care workers don't want to look after sick kids, and employers generally take a dim view of staying away from work, to look after sick kids, many parents face a no win situation, if their kids are sick

          • McFlock

            I agree, and sympathise. I'm also waiting for a fairly stable employer to start announcing staff cuts if this all goes on too much longer.

            But maybe the message on what services are available isn't getting through, or maybe there was nobody available in that area, etc etc etc.

            This isn't necessarily someone just assuming everything will be fine and ignoring the rules like someone running to their holiday home (but sure, it might be). It could be that people are again being left hanging while being "essential".

            • weka

              what support is available for workers who can't stay home with a sick kid?

              • McFlock

                yeah I wondered that. A quick google early suggested that they can get a free caregiver for kids up to 13, but doesn't mention sick kids and said something about caregivers being restricted to one per bubble. So if one isn't available in your area, sounded like you might be screwed.

                Only found a press release, though, not like an application form or anything. So that's an issue, too.

                • weka

                  people I know are managing this via extended bubbles eg families whose kids get on doing shared care, but even when we were under L4 there was no local transmission. And they weren't getting financial or structural assistance.

                  • weka

                    which highlights a gap in the system, but maybe some people could hold back on the judgemental approach given the long term issues and the immediate ones.

    • Sabine 1.2

      i agree the Minister of Health should pick up the phone, to call the Minister of Corrections and the Minister of Justice – at haste – to create a legal frame work in regards to remand prisoners, bail applications, etc. As todays news show, how ever it is handled atm seems to have a colander effect, and puts the community and the health sector at great risk. And for what its worth, i am sure they are frantically trying to fix it now.

    • That judge needs to be arrested under the Health Orders for breaching the border.

      And he/she needs to be struck off

      • Ad 1.3.1

        At very least both judges need to be recused from any sentencing concerning border breaches.

      • Incognito 1.3.2


        The Judge’s job is not to undertake nasal swabs but to decide matters before the Court. The person was bailed on 8 September and tested on 16 September, which returned a positive test result. The judge would have been so lucky to know the Lotto numbers in advance.

      • Craig Hall 1.3.3

        The Bail Act does not refer to epidemics or Covid as reasons for setting bail conditions. Schedule 5 of the current Covid Public Health Response Order regarding alert level requirements (https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2021/0237/latest/LMS545109.html) provides for permitted reasons for travel into, out of or through a level 4 area, some of which relate to people complying with court orders and leaving prison ("detention") and include a person picking them up.

        11 Leave or change their home or place of residence as required by—

        (a) a court order (other than a parenting order, an interim parenting order, or an order to settle a dispute between guardians); or

        (b) anyone exercising a power under any enactment to—

        (i) order the person to be detained; or

        (ii) order the person to change their place of detention; or

        (iii) determine the person’s place of residence:

        Example of power

        A direction of the New Zealand Parole Board or a probation officer

        12 Leave or change a home or a place of residence after a period of requirement, detention, or determination described in item 11

        13 Collect a person referred to in item 11 or 12 for the purpose of accompanying them to their home or place of residence (or intended principal home or place of residence) in New Zealand

    • Sanctuary 1.4

      Angry minister dumps on chief district court judge.

      Angry chief district court judge dumps on district court judge.

      Angry judge dumps onto some hapless 25 year old legal aid lawyer, who gets the blame from everyone and eventually moves to Sydney.

      Everyone senior goes back to BAU.

      Thus the world is, and thus it always shall be…

      • Ad 1.4.1

        Bail isn't a right, it's a privilege. And the world is pretty weird right now. Even judges have to learn.

        • Craig Hall

          Not being locked up is a right, and being charged with something, but not convicted, shouldn't abrogate that right without some serious safeguards. Bail is legal recognition of that right.

          • Andre

            Not being locked up is a right

            I wonder how many of us Aucklanders read that and immediately thought "if only".

            The public health emergency we're labouring under and the risk of prolonging that emergency and spreading it to other parts of the country seems pretty good grounds to restrict that right. Temporarily.

  2. Andre 2

    It's time to start serious talk about vaccine mandates and passports. Vaccine mandates work:




    We're now at the stage where most of those that haven't yet had their first jab are avoiding it. We've got capacity well beyond what we had just after lockdown where 90,000 a day were getting jabbed. But rates have dropped to about 60,000 a day. Most people in NZ could get a jab as a walk-in or drive-in today, tomorrow, anytime this week. Anything to lift those numbers is a good thing. People that feel coerced will mostly get over it fairly quickly.

    It's also time to communicate a bit more about the difference in expected transmission between level 3 and level 4. By any objective assessment, level 3 is still a harsh lockdown. Basically it's level 4, but with work for those that can distance at work plus takeaway KFC and coffee. There should even exist data from previous level 3 lockdowns.

    • Poission 2.1

      Lets look at a jurisdiction where there is heavy vaccination,high quality health care,mandatory mask wearing and miq controls.

      Here with a similar population to NZ,Singapore has over a 1000 cases for the second day,showing the risk of high density urban areas.


    • weka 2.2

      "We're now at the stage where most of those that haven't yet had their first jab are avoiding it."

      Citation needed.

      • Andre 2.2.1

        Apologies – I should have added a weasel word to make it "are probably avoiding it".

        Evidence for that is the declining rate of first jabs even as there's massively increased availability, and the Horizon Research polls that say around 20% of New Zelanders are "definitely not" or "very unlikely" to get vaccinated, which also lines up with only 81% of New Zealanders saying it is important that everyone that can get vaccinated does so.


        As of midnight Thursday we were at 72% eligibles had had their first jab, by now we're probably roughly 75%. There's not many left between that 75% and that 80% threshold where we get into the "probably nots".

        • weka

          it's only a weasel word if you believe your reckons are fact.

        • weka

          Your link says 10% of respondents definitely won't get a vaccine. Why you would want to lump probably won't in with them I have no idea, other than that you are fatalistic and refuse to look at why people are vaccine hesitant, instead prefering your hive mind, judgemental, punitive view.

          Meanwhile, as I mentioned the other day, the number of hesitant people who are disabled is a huge concern. It's almost like there's are groups of people in NZ who have good reason to not trust mainstream medicine or the government. Chickens coming home to roost there alongside the poverty and housing crisis ones. Neoliberalism is eating itself at this point. Ooops.

    • weka 2.3

      "People that feel coerced will mostly get over it fairly quickly."

      Fortunately for NZ public health, the MoH and the government understand that coercing people creates both resistance to the thing being coerced, including in other people, and creates greater division in society making public health harder going forward.

      • Andre 2.3.1

        If people really want to reject all the advice and evidence from actual experts that spend their lives studying and developing stuff,and reject one of the most thoroughly tested, safest, cheapest, and most effective medical treatments ever devised, to go with their feels and reckons and other ways of knowing, all I ask is that they keep to themselves and don't be a willful health and safety risk to the rest of us.

        And that when it turns to shit on them, that they keep their faith in their feels and reckons and other ways of knowing, and don't clog up and break the medical system that they have previously rejected. But I doubt they have the decency and integrity to do that.

  3. Leighton 3

    I don't quite understand why the fact that a person bailed to the Waikato has spread it amongst his household contacts should affect whether Auckland moves down an alert level? My prediction is that Auckland comes down to level 3 from Wednesday as planned. The government boxed itself into a corner with the "agreement in principle" announced last week, and in my view nothing sufficiently unexpected has arisen in Auckland over the last week for them to be able to politically justify a change of course. I don't think they will move Waikato up until there is evidence of transmission outside the one household.

  4. tc 4

    L3 for the waikato today I reckon thanks to corrections and the entitled few who game the system, charter flights etc.

    Anything less risks a surge IMO, it is what it is as delta spreads like wildfire.

    • Treetop 4.1

      I to think L3 for the Waikato. I think Auckland will go to L3, tentatively. Unless testing is done for the Delta strain it could be lurking undetected where not expected.

      There are 2 weeks of school left in term 3. The school holidays would help to pick up a rogue case were it to occur in a school in the next 2 weeks.

      There is nothing like an outbreak to increase vaccination numbers.

    • Enough is Enough 4.2

      Practically I am not sure you can do a Waikato lockdown. Where is the boundary and how on earth can we police hundreds of roads? There are multiple ways to exit. We'd need to bring the military in, because the Police couldn't do it on their own.

      It would only work with 100% co-operation from the public – and thats not going to happen.

    • AB 4.3

      The Waikato border is likely to be way more complicated and harder to control than the border into the Auckland isthmus. Waikato connects to the Bay of Plenty, King Country and Central Plateau with (I'd think) plenty of back roads crossing it. There may be some discussion of pushing the whole North Island into L3 – but they probably won't risk the resulting outrage.

      • Enough is Enough 4.3.1

        That's what I think. It would have to be the whole North Island to level 3.

        • alwyn

          It would be quite feasible to leave Wellington out of the area. Then we could go down to Level 1 along with the South Island. Yippee!

          You could put a line across from the sea to the Tararua Range just north of Manakau. That is Manakau, not Manukau for the Aucklanders among us. The only road that would go through it would be SH1. That should provide a pretty good boundary on the West Coast.

          The you would need a different line somewhere on the part of SH2 that goes over the Remutaka Range. Again that is the only road.

          Then we could be free of the pestilence from the North.

          Well I suppose I am allowed to dream, aren't I?

          • Gezza

            (Hi alwyn

            On a separate matter we discussed yesterday – just gonna post you something in the Te Wiki o Te Reo Māori thread.)

      • Treetop 4.3.2

        The whole of the North Island going to L3 would be a preemptive strike.

        More community cases at the end of the week in new North Island regions I would not exclude a L3 North Island lock down.

  5. swordfish 5


    Hard Border north of Taupo … Hadrians Wall-style, with manned watch towers at spaced intervals to stop frantic northerners flooding south. Suppress any signs of a northern outbreak with periodic strafing raids over Auckers, Hamilton & Tauranga by fighter jets loyal to the south. Hedonistic Level 1 party atmos south of the border vs post-war ration coupon Austerity to the north.

    Remember, southerners, loose lips sink ships. Be on your guard against the vile sausage-sucking northern hun & his machiavellian machinations.

  6. McFlock 6

    Some interesting news about possible data (i.e. pop media take on a study, not the paper itself) on PCR tests before flying: 5 in 10,000 passengers still have it either immediately boefore or after travel.

    All well and good when going from plagueland to plagueland, but that's easily 5 people a week coming into NZ under restricted travel, with a piece of paper that some would argue should let them bypass MIQ.

    That goes down to 1 with another test immediately before departure. Still would one person a week through, though.

  7. Jenny how to get there 7

    Good Call MS

  8. Adrian 8

    Has anybody bothered to look up the Auckland Covid Border? Whakatiwai where the house he was sent to is, is inside the border just north of Miranda, the children go to Mangatangi School which is on the border. Nobody fucked up but did not account for the children’s class mates possibly spreading it south of Mangatangi.

    This is gotcha reporting, too fucking lazy and thick to read a map.

    Also take into account that maybe the prisoner was picked up, held in police cells, appeared in court and bailed to Whakatiwai and never went in to a Corrections facility. But I may be wrong, but I can read a bloody map.

  9. Adrian 9

    Although I am slightly disappointed as I would relish Swordfish’s response being activated, it would be strongly supported here in the Republic of Te Wai Pounamu.

    • weka 9.1

      how much of the South Island's food comes from the North Island?

      • roblogic 9.1.1

        No more Pukekohe spuds and onions. No more Ohakune carrots. No more kiwifruit

        • Poission

          None of which are not grown in the SI.

          • Adrian

            You really do need to get out more. South Canterbury probably grows more spuds than Pukekohe or more carrots than Ohakune , plenty of kiwifuit in Te Tau Ihu as well as, now don't go into panic mode, all of the hops and grain for craft beer or any beer for that matter. In other words, we are self sufficient, but where are you getting your cheeky little Central Otago Pinots, or luscious Marlborough Savvies or frisky Pinot Gris's, thats going to put a dampener on those illegal carport knees-ups, eh!

            Aucklanders don't need any more reason to feel smug but the BORDER, has reinforced their conviction that there isn't anything south of the Bombay Hills.

            • Poission

              Read what I said.

            • roblogic

              OK OK. Swap ya 2 crates of Lion Red & Waikato Draught for some of that Marlborough stuff

              • mac1

                Marlborough beers like Renaissance and Moa in exchange for that? My home brews are better……….

                Marlborough grows kumera, potatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers, yams, taro, avocados, bananas, citrus, kiwifruit, peppers, eggplants, hops, garlic, brussel sprouts, leeks, berries, asparagus, broad beans, pears, quinces, apples. I know, because I do (except avocados, taro and bananas which grow near here).

            • weka

              those tomatoes and cucumbers in the supermarket at the moment weren't grown in the SI. Not that it would be a huge hardship to eat seasonally, but I suspect the supply lines we currently have mean a fair chunk of what the SI eats comes from up north.

            • Sacha

              Mainland spuds are still the best I've had. Glad to see some companies turning them into chips now as well.

      • Adrian 9.1.2

        Only that inedible shit that comes out of factories.

      • Sacha 9.1.3


  10. Adrian 10

    The Auckland Provincial border is at Miranda, the Police have a checkpoint just north of Whakatiwai, so anyone looking up where Whakatiwai is will be informed that it is in Auckland Province.

  11. Jenny how to get there 11

    Lockdown decision – which way will it go?

    MICKYSAVAGE – 9:00 am, today

    Mayor Goff makes it very clear which way he wants it to go.

    Covid-19: Auckland Mayor calls for shift to level 3 this week

    9:06 am today

    Auckland's mayor wants the region shifted down to alert level 3 this week, and says the cost to stay at level 4 is too high…….

    "The psychological pressures of the long level 4 lockdown are growing, and the financial pressures on businesses and jobs. Families are separated, there's people who don't have income coming in… there are lot of people who are just on the edge at the moment…..


    Mayor Goff makes a good point about the financial stress on families and small business that will be caused by a continued lockdown.

    Rent and mortgage relief would go along way to ease the financial stress on small busnesses and families.

    A rent and mortgage moratorium is not an unprecedented measure, it is what the First Labour Government did to provide relief to New Zealanders during the Great Depression.

    The great beauty of a mortgage and rent moratorium, is it that it costs the tax payer nothing.

    Also, the Aussie owned banks that take $3.5 billion out of our country every year, can easily afford it.

    • Jenny how to get there 11.1

      Share the burden with the banks.

      While everyone else’s livelyhood has been constrained, and in some cases completely stopped. The banks are still draining New Zealander’s accounts.

      Everyone pays a mortgage. (Renters are just paying someone else’s).

      A rent and mortgage moratorium now.

      …..by 1931, it was clear that further intervention was necessary to prevent widespread foreclosures and mortgagee sales…..

      ….Although mortgage relief was frequently discussed at some length by
      contemporary commentators, and by some historians in the 1950s and
      1960s, it has been relegated to a few lines at most in more recent works.'

      …..This Act also extended to lessees [renters] the same protection
      that had been granted to mortgagors,

      The modification of mortgage conditions was not new in New Zealand. A 'mortgage moratorium' had been imposed as a war measure in 1914,


    • UncookedSelachimorpha 11.2

      Goff makes the usual mistake of ignoring the other side of the equation.

      "the cost to stay at level 4 is too high……."


      What is the cost of uncontrolled spread of Covid?

  12. Incognito 12

    Are the authorities confident enough that they are as close as they can be to the leading edges of the outbreak, e.g., by rapid contact tracing and testing & isolation, in order to deal (i.e. control) with this long hard tail under Level 3 settings?

    Do they have a plan and protocols in place, and the resources, to ring-fence current known clusters more assertively and get ahead of leading edges, i.e., pro-actively prevent them from growing and spreading?

    Each day we seem to have about 25% of new cases who have been infectious in the community. As long as these don’t spread further, it doesn’t give rise to concern, but obviously, the number needs to come down to zero over a number of consecutive days.

    • Cricklewood 12.1

      I'd say they dont, they cant quite keep ahead on it under level 4 given we seem to have a few new cases everyday that have been out in the community.

      If you were to take someone like the bailed prisoner is he going to tell contact tracers everything ie if a mate came to visit perhaps in breach of bail conditions?

      Very hard to trace in communties of people who have very little trust in govt or authority.

      I suspect political pressue will mean a drop in level for Auckland then we'll see a slow uptick in cases and then its either yoyo between levels or it spreads outwards into the regions.

      Only shitty choices really its just a case of picking the least shit one.

  13. Chris T 13

    Any one one want to take bets on how long it takes Ardern to actually say the levels after the usual cliche crap?

    I say 21 minutes 9 seconds

  14. L4 might be the correct thing in an ideal world but L3 is a more practical level which allows some semblance of connection to whanau and a bit of civilisation. If we stay in L4 we will see increased flouting of the oppressive lockdown rules, and I can't blame people for that.

    My money is on L3, it's the pragmatic option, and Jacinda is still a politician

    • observer 14.1

      Broadly I agree, except that the D-G will give health advice to Cabinet and the PM will be asked today if she (Cabinet) followed it. Followed by OIA requests no doubt.

      If Dr B (who is cautious) says keep Level 4 in Auckland, Jacinda will have to be the politician who over-rules … legally no problem, but politically awkward.

      • observer 14.1.1

        Reading between the lines, it looks like Dr B (who is nobody's fool) gave Cabinet the advice they wanted to hear, while preserving a de facto Level 4 under the Health Act, for the latest outbreak in Miranda area.

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 14.2

      We can be confident that the virus will respect pragmatism.

  15. observer 15

    Remember this, from Judith Collins:

    “The evidence from overseas is clear; decisive action to prevent further community spread is what is needed when it comes to the highly-transmissible Delta variant.

    “It is better to act now to stamp out the spread of Covid-19 than to take half measures which do not work and result in it taking longer to shut down the spread."

    (Lockdown Day 1, August 17)

    Let's hope she doesn't call for "half-measures which do not work" after today's announcement.

    • Chris T 15.1

      Who cares what Collins says.

      I get the need for you to grasp whataboutism but it is Ardern and her govt and her it rides on today. No one else

      • observer 15.1.1

        Let's face it, National and ACT have both written 2 opposite versions of their press release already, stating "The decision is wrong because …". They will delete one version and send out the other at 5 pm.

      • Chris 15.1.2

        It matters what she says because if she called for "half-measures that do not work" it'll add fuel to the not-that-well-hidden fire of resentment sitting amongst the business sector. But she's not going to call for that – she's going to say we need to stay cautious etc etc, so that if things go awry she'll have the moral high ground.

  16. Poission 16

    Jacinda is still a politician

    So was Neville Chamberlain,a substantial part of the country will not accept appeasement.

  17. Drowsy M. Kram 17

    I say 21 minutes 9 seconds

    If these pressers are as much fun for the PM as some would have us believe, why not?

  18. Chris T 18

    14 minutes 9 seconds left.

    No team of 5 million yet. Reckon I will win

  19. Chris T 19

    The whole just saying levels thing is hard for them.

    Soray. Just find it funny

  20. Chris T 20

    7 minutes left

  21. Chris T 21

    Ah bollocks.

    18 minutes and 23 seconds.

    Apologies. Kind of quick for her

    • observer 21.1

      You seem to be including the first 10 minutes when the PM wasn't even there. Need to repair your broken stopwatch.

      • Chris T 21.1.1


        Forgot we are supposed to guess how late she will be after saying 4 pm

        Has she thought about replacing her assistants

        • In Vino

          I was listening in my car, and RNZ said they would switch to it at about 4.14, which is pretty much how it worked out. It probably did take about 8 minutes from then, but I would agree that explaining the new situation in Hauraki plains should have had priority, so your beat-up is crap.

  22. Yayyyyy!!! L3 L3 L3… on Wednesday

  23. Andre 23

    So the cage gets a little bit bigger. Now it includes work, KFC, and takeaway coffee, and not much more.

    Still, it's a necessary step in the right direction.

    • Chris T 23.1

      It is basically them admitting finally we lost given the numbers and unknowns.

      Fair play though. Should have done it a wee while ago impo

      • weka 23.1.1

        "It is basically them admitting finally we lost given the numbers and unknowns."

        Ardern just said exactly the opposite.

        • Chris T

          I know she did.

          The numbers are higher than when we moved to 4 nationwide.

          It isn't rocket science to realise they have faced realism.

          • weka

            you're making shit up. If you disagree with their rationales, make the argument. But just saying they've gone L3 because we've lost the fight against zero covid is just your unfounded reckons which don't take into account the strategy and how this outbreak is playing out.

            • Chris T

              It isn't really worth arguing about. All I would say is numbers.

              Maybe I am wrong. I don't know. Above my pay grade.

              In the interim I am happy for Aucklanders. Still shite. But less sHite. Any fast food coupon codes needed let me knowblush

              • weka

                daily numbers is a pretty abstract view of a strategy that takes a really large and complex number of variables into account.

              • Incognito

                Maybe I am wrong. I don't know. Above my pay grade.

                Yes, you are, indeed, you don’t, and correct, it’s beyond you, which is why you make up shit, again, and as usual.

                It appears you’re craving attention today, from Moderators; I’ll let them know that you’re in need of some TLC.

        • weka

          Bloomfield saying the same thing, with more explanation and detail. eg vaccination makes L3 more effective than last year.

      • Andre 23.1.2

        Dunno about shoulda done it a while ago.

        Every day of extra vaccinations makes quite a lot of difference. Even the reduced rate of people fronting up now will help take the edge off the problems coming at the health system.

    • Brigid 23.2

      KFC, and takeaway coffee

      But contactless

      • Andre 23.2.1

        Yeah, nah. I don't actually buy either.

        But when Monday night pizza time rolls around, the delivery boy better just drop that bad boy and run so he doesn't end up as collateral damage in the feeding frenzy.

    • Enough is Enough 23.3

      Not just takeaways – Construction starts again. That's a real risk area on some of the big Auckland projects

    • georgecom 23.4

      a cage gilded with takeaway wrappers and disposable coffee cups

  24. weka 24

    If most of the transmission is happening within households, how are those households getting infected?

    • Muttonbird 24.1

      Loads of people ignoring the rules. Outside my house right now someone has driven up and has hand delivered items to a member of the household down the back. In their bubble? Doubt it. No masks.

      This example is a light breach. Many households/individuals simply don’t understand or don’t care.

      I've turned into a curtain twitcher, ffs. Lol.

      • weka 24.1.1

        lol, all of us. Lots of discussion down south about what would trigger someone to dob someone else in.

        So are they getting all/most of the links between households clear?

  25. observer 25

    People think the press conferences help Ardern because she can give a speech. But what really helps her is the idiot questions. That's when the general audience goes from grumbling about the PM to shouting at the reporters.

  26. Chris T 26

    Famous 5 mate!

    On special. Google kfc vouchers nz.

    And congrats

  27. weka 27

    Ardern has just clarified that the prisoner most likely got covid from people who transported them who had been in Auckland, and that it's very unlikely they got covid from the prison they were in, or from their household.

    • weka 27.1

      they're still waiting for genome sequencing.

    • Craig Hall 27.2

      And that the reason Corrections didn't drop them off is that wasn't in the bail conditions, although she also made the point that would be unusual.

      • weka 27.2.1

        I missed that bit. Corrections didn't do the transport from Auckland to Waikato?

        • Craig Hall

          No, a specified person did – they aren't saying who, but it was part of the bail conditions.

          • weka

            do you mean bail conditions didn't require Corrections to do the transport?

            • Craig Hall

              Bail conditions include the defendant's residential address where the electronic monitoring will be, how they will be transported to that address, and by whom – in theory that could be Corrections, but in this particular case, it wasn't (and it normally wouldn't be Corrections).

  28. rod 28

    Auckland going down to level 3, so get ready folks, for the usual bunch of moaners and whingers in the msm.

    • Andre 28.1

      Richrdson got in even before the presser with a moan that that the government is wrong whichever way it decides.


      And if the government actually did what Richardson suggests in his whine, the population would be even more peeved. 3-way wiener for Richardson!

    • Chris T 28.2

      I realise you may not get this. But while Auckland was shut. So was a lot of everyone else's stock replenishment.

      Yes Auckland had it hardest. But this doesn't mean no one else in the country was screwed.

      • roblogic 28.2.1

        Yep. All the Farmers department stores in NZ were closed because their Auckland operation was closed. Building supplies were not getting sent out. Temp workers were stuck in Auckland and couldn't go where they were needed. Warehouses full of stuff for the rest of NZ were paralysed.

        Let's not do L4 again.

        • Barfly

          "Let's not do L4 again"

          Let's not have to do L 4again fify

        • Graeme

          All of that is more a crippling structural weakness that's been allowed to develop in our economy and society, rather than the Level 4 restrictions.

          There's multiple possibilities that could cut Auckland off from the rest or part of the Country, or restrict / take out completely the Auckland economy. It's beyond stupid to have so much dependant on a single distribution centre in Auckland. The cost to the firms concerned, and the wider economy from this current disruption probably far outweigh any 'efficiencies' gained from centralising everything in Auckland.

          What's going to happen when there's an eruption in Auckland or Central NI

  29. Gezza 29

    I’m still trying to get my head around what a new Level 3 for Auckland actually amounts to, & whether it’s even worth it. Will have to wait for analyses on TV1 & 3.
    … … …

    “Director of General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield said he was issuing a section 70 order requiring people who live or work in the area around Mangatangi, in northern Waikato, to stay at home. Ardern said it was effectively a “bespoke level 4”.

    Bloomfield said the order was for people living in an area north of SH2 centred on Mangatangi.

    “That will effectively extend the road boundary to the east of Maramarua … and also to the southeast of Miranda on the Firth of Thames.””
    … … …

    Is this going to be potentially messy for the police?

  30. georgecom 30

    not just 'rich pricks' flouting lockdown rules. people of all ilk deciding they do not have to abide by them. 2 morons caught on the Waikato/Auckland boarder heading north today with a boot full of KFC, plus $100,000 cash. Looks like P needs to be shipped into Auckland. Self entitled moron if you decide to take a holiday in Wanaka. Self entitled moron if you decide to get your P takings and deliver some KFC. Deliver Peasy/Puber huh.

  31. Chris T 31

    Turns out the parolee dude with covid stopped at 4 different places on the way to his place.

    Was just on the radio news


    Can find link if needed

  32. Tricledrown 33

    Collins and Dr Reti caught on Camera not wearing masks in Queenstown cafe.

    Wow how the gang members are savaged for breaking rules.

    Collins has to go.

    • Gezza 33.1

      Ae. Impossible to see how she can seriously expect to survive as leader beyond the next full National caucus meeting or two in Wgtn.

      She’s a constant embarrassment – & a jinx – for the party. They couldn’t probably have made a worse choice voting her in as leader, as it’s clearly turning out.

Leave a Comment

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Gordon Campbell on the perils of declaring premature victory
    Sure enough, Saturday’s Vaxathon was a barrel of fun and a throwback not merely to the Telethons of the past. It also revived memories of those distant days of early 2020, when we were all carefully wiping down our groceries, not touching our faces, washing our hands for 20 seconds ...
    38 mins ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 18 October 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Kim Gillespie, Editor NZME Newspapers Lower North Island & Communities “I find the daily email great for giving me an overview of each morning’s big issues across the media landscape, and really appreciate the huge amount of work that must go in to compiling it each day.” Anyone ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 hours ago
  • Bryce Edwards: Political Roundup – Celebrating and critiquing 25 years of MMP
    Over the last week, MMP has been in the spotlight, given that it’s now been 25 years since the first general election was held under this proportional representation system. This has produced some important commentary and storytelling about the introduction of MMP and about the various pros and cons of ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 hours ago
  • COVID-19 in Aotearoa: what does public health do now?
    Dr Belinda Loring, Dr Ruth Cunningham, Dr Polly Atatoa Carr* Public health activities have collectively made an incredible contribution to minimising the impact of COVID-19 in Aotearoa. But the work for public health is not over. As the situation in Auckland heralds a transition point in our approach to the ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    4 hours ago
  • 2021 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #42
    Listing of articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, October 10, 2021 through Sat, October 16, 2021 The following articles sparked above average interest during the week: ‘This is a story that needs to be told’: BBC film tackles Climategate scandal, Why trust science?, ...
    14 hours ago
  • Is injection technique contributing to the risk of post vaccine myocarditis?
    Recent misleading media headlines about vaccines being administered incorrectly in the absence of evidence do little to help public confidence in vaccines. Spoiler alert, vaccines are not being administered incorrectly. The topic of this blog is based on what could be an important scientific question – is one of the ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    17 hours ago
  • A Māori health expert reports from the Super Saturday frontlines
    Rawiri Jansen, National Hauora Coalition I write this as I charge my car, getting ready to head home at the end of a pretty good Super Saturday. It started with coffee and checking the news feeds as any good day should. Between 9 and 10 am as I drove to ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    21 hours ago
  • Weddings and Leopards
    Could it be that the Herald is beginning to twig that an unremitting hostility to the government does not go down well with all its readers? The evidence for that is that, in today’s issue, two contributors (Bill Ralston and Steven Joyce) who usually enjoy sticking the knife in, take ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 day ago
  • The Chronicles of Kregsmal and Krunch: Volume I
    As noted previously, my weekly DND campaign with Annalax and Gertrude has been put on ice. I expect it to return eventually, but for now it is very much on hiatus. The remainder of the group have decided to run an entirely new campaign in the meantime. This ...
    2 days ago
  • Super Saturday recap: Patrick Gower doesn’t know what he’s supposed to do
    It was Aotearoa’s first national day of action in over ten years, the first since 2010, when Prime Minister John Key tried to inspire us to clean up our nation’s berms. It didn’t work. Today, New Zealand’s berms are worse than ever. But history is not destiny, and other cliches. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • COVID-19 Worried about getting your vaccine or want a simple explanation?
    Worried about getting your vaccine? Let me tell you a secret. No-one likes getting a vaccine. People do it because they know they’re better off to. Let me tell you another secret, a weird one: the vaccine doesn’t really “do” anything. Confusing? Let me explain… Vaccines are a face at ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 days ago
  • Delta puts workers’ power under the spotlight
    by Don Franks Foremost fighting the Delta virus are workers, especially in health, distribution, service and education sectors. Unionised members of these groups are centrally represented by the New Zealand Council of trade unions ( NZCTU). Political journalist Richard Harman recently noted:“Businesses are caught in a legal tangle if they ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Faster transitions to clean energy are also cheaper
    This is a re-post from the Citizens' Climate Lobby blog Several clean energy technologies like solar panels have become consistently cheaper year after year as the industries have benefited from learning, experience and economies of scale. Falling solar costs are described by “Swanson’s Law,” much like Moore’s Law described the rapid and consistent ...
    3 days ago
  • Abstraction and Reality in Economics
    Sometimes high theory loses the human point of the exercise.One of the joys of teaching is you learn from your students. When fifty-odd years ago, I was at the University of Sussex, a student doing our first-year economics course, Jim, came to me, saying he was pulling out because it ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    3 days ago
  • What Happened to the Team?
    Last year, in the early stages of the pandemic, the Prime Minister’s “team of five million” performed well; team discipline was maintained and we all worked well together. This year, however, has been a different story; team discipline has weakened, and many people have on numerous occasions behaved badly and ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Another legal victory
    Across the world climate change activists have been going to court, seeking to make their governments act to protect future generations. And hot on the heels of victories in the Netherlands and Germany, there's been another one in France: A French court has ordered the government to make up ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Invasion Of The (Covid) Body Snatchers.
    It's Here! They're Here! We're Here! Help! It’s as if we’re all living through a Covid version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. What has become of Jacinda? Where have they taken her closest Cabinet colleagues? The people on the stage of the Beehive Theatrette look the same, but they ...
    3 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 15 October 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Associate Professor Grant Duncan, Massey University, Auckland “The NZ Politics Daily email is very helpful in giving me a quick overview of current events and opinion. It allows me to pick out important or informative columns that I may otherwise have missed. I recommend NZ Politics Daily to anyone ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago
  • Missing From The Anti-Covid Action.
    The Invisible Man: Where has the NZ Council of Trade Unions been during the Covid-19 Pandemic? Why hasn’t its current president, Richard Wagstaff (above) become a household name during the pandemic? Up there with Ashley Bloomfield, Michael Baker, Shaun Hendy and Siouxsie Wiles? WHERE HAVE THE UNIONS BEEN during the Covid-19 ...
    3 days ago
  • “Go West, Young Virus”
    The Auckland Coronavirus Outbreak potters along, not helped by the perception that the Government is disturbingly enthusiastic about “managing the virus” or loosening the border. Health Minister Andrew Little said today he envisages 90% vaccination rates (which we don’t have) eventually leading to 5,000 cases in Auckland a week… ...
    4 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #41, 2021
    How to fill a glass and thereby drink— from a fire hose So far this year, New Research has published listings for 3,291 papers concerning climate change from one aspect or another. Each edition includes two dozen or so articles describing freshly and directly observed effects of global waming. These ...
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: UKanians supports cuts
    The Guardian reports a study on emissions reduction policy from the UK, which found that UKanians overwhelmingly support stronger action than their government: The UK public backs a carbon tax on polluting industries, higher levies on flying and grants for heat pumps in order to tackle the climate crisis, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Media Link: “A View from Afar” on PRC-Taiwan tensions.
    In this week’s podcast Selwyn Manning and I discuss the upsurge in tensions between the PRC and Taiwan and what are the backgrounds to and implications of them. You can check the conversation out here. ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Labour’s 2023 election manifesto
    This morning Health Minister Andrew Little effectively unveiled Labour's 2023 election manifesto: 5,000 cases a week in Auckland alone: Thousands of people will be infected with Covid-19 every week even with vaccination levels at 90 per cent, and hospitals face being overwhelmed once restrictions are eased and borders opened, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Don't Blame James.
    Emissions Impossible! So, don’t be too hard on poor James Shaw. His pathetic little To-Do list is, indeed, totally inadequate to the crisis. But, you know what? He’ll be lucky to get half of the items ticked-off. There’s just too many entrenched interests – not the least of whom are ...
    4 days ago
  • The “Pulpit of Strewth”
    Barry Soper is one half of one of one of those right-wing husband-and-wife duos in which the Herald seems to specialise. In today’s issue, he has a piece that doesn’t quite reach the heights (or depths) of a Hoskings-style anti-government hostility, but which does provide an interesting example of the ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the epic fails of Kris Faafoi
    Ever since Winston Peters first breathed life into this government in 2018, its own branding has been all about social justice and how we all need to be “kind” to each other. Somehow, Kris Faafoi must have missed the memo. His performance in the immigration portfolio (in particular) has neither ...
    4 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 14 October 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Mike Treen, Advocate, Unite Union “Please continue your incredible work compiling these news digests. As someone operating in the fields of advocacy for workers and the broader social justice areas it is invaluable to be able to check what is happening in the media relating to the issues I have to deal ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago
  • Overconfident Idiots: Why Incompetence Breeds Certainty
    This is a re-post from the Thinking is Power website maintained by Melanie Trecek-King where she regularly writes about many aspects of critical thinking in an effort to provide accessible and engaging critical thinking information to the general public. Please see this overview to find links to other reposts from Thinking is Power. ...
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Abandoning ambition
    When Labour was first elected to power in 2017, they promised us "[an] ambitious plan to take real action on climate change". Four years and a lot of foot-dragging later, they've finally released that plan. And its not what was promised. Where to begin? Firstly, they've taken the Climate Change ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Young adults worldwide have blunt message for governments: ‘We don’t trust you.’
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Karin Kirk Elizabeth Marks describes herself as “a psychologist who works on difficult problems.” Her past research aimed at helping people cope with challenging health conditions, apt training, it appears, for taking on climate change issues. A few years ago, she altered ...
    5 days ago
  • Making ‘Second Age’ Hobbits Work: Amazon Series Speculation
    Time for a good old-fashioned fandom furore. The Tolkien fandom hasn’t had a proper one of those since the Great Nudity Scandal of October 2020… so it clearly must be time to pontificate from on-high about a television series we still know vanishingly little about. This time the subject ...
    5 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 13 October 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Dr Lara Greaves, Political scientist, University of Auckland: “I love the NZ Politics Daily emails as they help me to keep on top of current events. It’s incredibly easy to skim through and follow the links. I really appreciate these as it means that I am exposed to a ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    5 days ago
  • The Data and Statistics Bill and the OIA
    The government introduced a new Data and Statistics Bill today to modernise and replace the 45-year old Statistics Act. Part of the Bill re-enacts the existing confidentiality regime (with one exception), which while a secrecy clause isn't an especially controversial one. Another part is aimed at removing "outdated" (inconvenient) limits ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Graham Adams: The debate over the $55 million media fund erupts again
    RNZ’s Mediawatch and a video clip viewed 42,000 times keep the topic of the Public Interest Journalism Fund fizzing. Graham Adams reports.   A week ago, the NZ Taxpayers’ Union posted a short video clip of the exchange in Parliament between Jacinda Ardern and Judith Collins in which the National ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago
  • Multiple sclerosis: the link with earlier infection just got stronger – new study
    Scott Montgomery, UCL For most of the time since the first description of multiple sclerosis (MS) in 1868, the causes of this disabling disease have remained uncertain. Genes have been identified as important, which is why having other family members with MS is associated with a greater risk of developing ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • Hit hard by the pandemic, researchers expect its impacts to linger for years
    Sora Park, University of Canberra; Jennie Scarvell, University of Canberra, and Linda Botterill, University of Canberra   The impacts of COVID-19 on Australian university researchers are likely to have consequences for research productivity and quality for many years to come. According to an online survey of academics at the University ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • Covid and free speech
    by Don Franks Some commentators have likened the struggle against Covid 19 to the world war experience. To those of us not alive in those times, that comparison can only be academic. What the anti virus battle reminds me of much more is an industrial strike. In my twenties and ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • “Angry Blowhards”
    In today’s Herald, their excellent columnist, Simon Wilson, takes to task those “shouty” people whom he further describes as “angry blowhards”. They are those whose prime reaction to the pandemic is anger – an anger they seamlessly (and perhaps unwittingly) transfer from the virus to the government. The basis for ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • Looking Forward To 2022.
    Future Tense? Okay, so that’s where we are in 2022. Living in a New Zealand where all the usual rules of politics once again apply. And, guess what? Jacinda’s government, once again, isn’t doing very well – not very well at all.LET’S PLAY A GAME. Let’s pretend we’re half-way through ...
    6 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on Covid mandates, and the Covid pill
    The cliché about “living with Covid” will not mean life as we’ve known it, Jim. Vaccination is fast becoming a condition of employment, and also a requirement to participate in aspects of social life, such as travel, attending bars, cafes, and concerts etc. These protective measures enjoy a high level ...
    6 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 12 October 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Prof Alan Bollard, Professor of Practice at the School of Government, Victoria University of Wellington; Chair of the Infrastructure Commission: “NZ Politics Daily” provides a great public service – a quick and unbiased way to check policy announcements and analysis every morning.” Anyone can sign up to NZPD ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago
  • Legal Beagle: A submission on the COVID-19 Public Health Response Amendment Bill (No 2)
    I have made a submission on the COVID-19 Public Health Response Amendment Bill (No 2).In preparing it, I looked at the Hansard for the first reading debate, and got name-dropped as someone likely to make a submission. So, of course I did. I focus on a small bit of the ...
    6 days ago
  • Hard News: More tales from the Medicinal Cannabis Scheme
    You may have read last week that two years after the publication of regulations for medicinal cannabis – and three years after the enabling legislation – two local products from a local manufacturer have finally met the minimum quality standards for prescription. You may also be interested to know that ...
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Real action requires government
    Over the weekend someone pointed me at a journal article on "The Poverty of Theory: Public Problems, Instrument Choice, and the Climate Emergency". Its a US law journal article, so is a) very long; and b) half footnotes (different disciplines have different norms), but the core idea is that the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Not doing our bit
    Last month the US and EU announced they would push an agreement to cut methane emissions by 30% (from 2020 levels) by 2030 at the upcoming climate change conference in Glasgow. The good news is that New Zealand is looking at joining it. The bad news is that that won't ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Delta’s Week Of Doom.
    Classic Shot: Are the Prime Minister’s formidable communication skills equal to the task of getting her government’s anti-Covid campaign back on track?IF JACINDA ARDERN thought last week was bad, the week ahead promises to be even worse. Sixty community cases of Covid-19, one of the highest daily totals so far ...
    1 week ago
  • Urgent measures needed to allow the safe re-opening of Auckland schools
    Dr Rachel Webb, Dr Jin Russell, Dr Pip Anderson, Dr Emma Best, Dr Alison Leversha and Dr Subha Rajanaidu* In this blog we describe the range of urgent measures that are needed to facilitate a safe return to schools in Auckland and other regions of the country where there is ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Children live online more than ever – we need better definitions of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ scree...
    Kathryn MacCallum, University of Canterbury and Cheryl Brown, University of Canterbury   The pandemic has fundamentally altered every part of our lives, not least the time we spend on digital devices. For young people in particular, the blurred line between recreational and educational screen time presents new challenges we are ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Putting Aotearoa on the map: New Zealand has changed its name before, why not again?
    Claire Breen, University of Waikato; Alexander Gillespie, University of Waikato; Robert Joseph, University of Waikato, and Valmaine Toki, University of Waikato   Our names are a critical part of our identity. They are a personal and social anchor tying us to our families, our culture, our history and place in ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Yes, of course festival organisers will follow the law on vaccination
    On Tuesday 5 October the New Zealand Government announced that proof of COVID-19 vaccination would be a requirement to attend large events this summer.It took a few days for event owners to absorb the information and understand the implications. By the end of the working week, most of the big ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 11 October 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Jim Hubbard, Cartoonist “NZ Politics daily is a go to for cartoonists, or should be.  Political reporting enmasse like this gives cartoonists and political junkies a smorgasbord to get their teeth into. Essential and I daresay vital reading for those who care about the future of NZ.” Anyone can sign ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • 2021 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #41
    Listing of articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, October 3, 2021 through Sat, October 9, 2021 The following articles sparked above average interest during the week: VFX Artist Reveals how Many Solar Panels are Needed to Power the ENTIRE World, Will you fall ...
    1 week ago
  • The Night of Parmenides: accepted
    A bit of good news on the writing front. My 3900-word short story, The Night of Parmenides, has been accepted by SpecFicNZ for their upcoming Aftermath anthology, to be published in early 2022. This is my first published short story to be explicitly set in my home-town of ...
    1 week ago
  • The Virus, the Politician, and the gang member
    . . . . . References Newshub Nation: Gang leader Harry Tam denies Winston Peters’ claims he helped infected woman breach COVID boundary, sparking Northland lockdown Te Ao News: ‘Apologise!’ Mob leader slams Peters’ Covid, Northland allegations Stuff media: Covid-19 – Search for contact of Northland case ‘extraordinarily frustrating’ CNBC: ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Rapid kits, responses, and openings: watch motivations, or catch something worse with Covid…
    Last week was probably a high point for many armchair “experts”, fresh from their high after some deep inhaling of the various musings and fumings, of an actually very smug, and very insualted John “Things all work for me…” Key, former Prime Minister and FOREX trader, had blitzed the ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • Bollocks
    It would appear we have an unwelcome presence in town.Positive wastewater results had been detected in Hamilton and Palmerston North on October 6 and 7. There are 26 cases in hospital, seven of these are in ICU or high dependency units (HDU).One of the people in hospital is in Palmerston ...
    1 week ago
  • World-leading?
    So, the Herald has found someone, as we can see from today’s issue, who is able to explain why we should not claim to have been “world-leading” in our response to the covid epidemic. It seems that we have been kidding ourselves when we celebrated our low total number of ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Why Is Labour So Frightened Of “Mr Stick”?
    Force Multiplier: Why are Ardern and her ministers so loathe to put a bit of stick about? The “emergency” legislation eventually enacted to authorise the measures needed to combat the Covid-19 pandemic failed to confer upon the New Zealand Government the unequivocal authority that subsequent events showed to be so ...
    1 week ago
  • The Need for an Updated Strategic Approach to Covid-19 Control in Aotearoa NZ
    Prof Nick Wilson, Dr Jennifer Summers, Prof Michael Baker* The NZ Government appears to have drifted into an unclear strategic approach to Covid-19 control. In this blog we outline one potential way forward: a regional strategic approach that considers “regional suppression” and “regional elimination”. To maximise the success of this ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Mairon: The Actual Source for the Blasted Name
    Long-time Tolkien geeks – or those bemused enough to run across a certain internet phenomenon – might know that ‘Sauron’ is not actually the real name of the Lord of the Ring. ‘Sauron’ is just an abusive Elvish nickname, meaning ‘the Abhorred.’ Sauron’s actual name, at least originally, ...
    1 week ago
  • Forced Re-entry
    The elimination of Covid strategy is not so much defeated but changing circumstances means that policy has to evolve. Our elimination stance was never sustainable or at least it would not be until the rest of the world also eliminated Covid-19. Elimination of the virus was a strategy we adopted ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • Repeal this unjust law
    Yesterday the Supreme Court ruled on National's unjust "three strikes" law, and found that the sentence it required was (in the case in question) so disproportionate as to "shock the conscience" and violate the Bill of Rights Act ban on disproportionately severe treatment or punishment: The Supreme Court has ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Preparing for the flood
    The Christchurch City Council has published new "coastal hazards" data, indicating which places are under threat from sea-level rise. And its not good news: Parts of Christchurch and Banks Peninsula are likely to become unhabitable [sic] as the city council figures out how to adapt to sea level ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The Virus, Not The Government
    I wonder if Mike Hosking ever reads the paper in which he appears so regularly? If he does, he might have noticed a report in today’s Herald about the problem that could face churches in Auckland if a vaccine passport becomes mandatory for those wishing to attend church services. The ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 8 October 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Bill Ralston, Media consultant and columnist: “NZ Politics Daily provides an invaluable service for journalists, politicians, businesspeople, decision makers and the public at large by providing an easily accessible, exhaustive, link to every significant political story in the country’s media that day. It’s a gem of a service ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • Open letter to Michael Barnett, Julie White, et al
    . . Congratulations,  Mr Barnett, Ms White, and your business colleagues. It appears that we will end up having to “live” (ie, get sick, end up in hospital, perhaps in ICU, intubated on ventilators, and possibly dying as our lungs fail) with covid19. But at least businesses will open up. ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Introducing Mr Stick.
    MR STICK: You media types think the people of this country have changed, but you’re wrong. We’re the same tough bastards we’ve always been. Put a bit of stick about – and listen to us cheer!JOSEPHINE MUCH-ADOO: Kia ora, everyone, and welcome to “Introducing”. Today we are very pleased to ...
    1 week ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #40, 2021
    "Old" research There's little point in trying to best this excellent article describing the 2021 Nobel Prize in Physics by Ars Technica authors Jennifer Ouelette and John Timmer, each having a gift for concisely on-target, accessible science journalism. Here at New Research we'll punt and quote the The Royal Swedish Academy of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Standing on one leg is a sign of good health – and practising is good for you too
    Dawn Skelton, Glasgow Caledonian University Research shows that people’s ability to stand on one leg is an indicator of health and that getting better at standing on one leg can add to fitness and potentially lifespan. Being able to stand on one leg is linked to increased levels of physical ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: More dishonesty over the CCR
    Last month the Emissions Trading Scheme turned into a farce, when the government flooded the market with credits in a failed and wasteful attempt to Keep Carbon Prices Low. When I asked about the background of this policy Climate Change Minister James Shaw sent me one of the most egregious ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Schrödinger’s Wraith: The Status of the Witch-King of Angmar, 15th-25th March, T.A. 3019.
    My recent re-read of The Lord of the Rings reminded me of one of the vaguer head-scratchers in Tolkien. The status of the Witch-King of Angmar between his death at the Battle of Pelennor Fields and the Destruction of the One Ring ten days later… was he, in the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • How rainbow colour maps can distort data and be misleading
    Philip Heron, University of Toronto; Fabio Crameri, University of Oslo, and Grace Shephard, University of Oslo   The choice of colour to represent information in scientific images is a fundamental part of communicating findings. However, a number of colour palettes that are widely used to display critical scientific results are ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Gordon Campbell on Korea’s march to global cultural domination, plus a K-pop playlist
    So far, South Korea’s culture industries seem to be pandemic proof. They’re also winning huge global audiences, and not merely large domestic ones. In recent years, South Korea’s TV series (Squid Game, Descendants of The Sun) and movies ( Parasite, Oldboy, The Handmaiden) have become global hits. However, it has ...
    2 weeks ago
  • In a lockdown, where does work end and parenting begin? Welcome to the brave new world of ‘zigzag...
    Candice Harris, Auckland University of Technology and Jarrod Haar, Auckland University of Technology   All parents work. The difference lies in the breakdown between their paid and unpaid workloads. That equation is influenced by many things, including education, qualifications, age, ethnicity, financial status, number and age of dependants, gendered and ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago

  • New Zealand increases climate aid contribution
    Government commits $1.3 billion over four years to support countries most vulnerable to the effects of climate change At least 50 percent of funding will go to the Pacific as it adapts to the impacts of climate change The increase means New Zealand now meets its fair share of global ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 hours ago
  • Super Māori turnout for Super Saturday
    Māori have put a superb effort into mobilising to get vaccinated over Super Saturday, with thousands rolling up their sleeves to protect themselves, their whānau and communities from COVID-19, Associate Health Minister Peeni Henare says. “It was absolutely outstanding that 21,702 Māori got vaccinated on this one day alone with 10,825 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Language assists Tagata Niue to thrive
    Despite the uncertain times we face with the challenges of COVID-19, our cultural knowledge, values and language remain constant, helping us progress towards goals in life, said  the Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio. This year, the Niuean community in New Zealand decided on the theme, “Kia tupuolaola e ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • New Zealand Ambassador to France announced
    Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced the appointment of Caroline Bilkey as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to France and the OECD. “Aotearoa New Zealand and France have a shared history, and enjoy a strong, collaborative partnership. This includes a strong trade and economic relationship, a shared commitment to support ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Govt welcomes nurses’ pay settlement
    The Government is welcoming news that a new employment agreement for nurses working in public hospitals has been settled. “I am very pleased that the hard work of the Nurses Organisation and District Health Boards has led to a settlement that both can support,” Health Minister Andrew Little said today. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Judge of the High Court appointed
    Māori Land Court Judge Layne Harvey has been appointed a Judge of the High Court, Attorney‑General David Parker announced today. Justice Harvey graduated with an LLB from the University of Auckland in 1992 and commenced employment as a law clerk with Simpson Grierson in Auckland that same year. In 1997 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Kiwis to have their say on plan to reduce waste
    New Zealanders are invited to have their say on proposals for a new waste strategy and options for new waste legislation. “Reducing waste is one of the issues all New Zealanders – especially younger Kiwis - care deeply about,” Environment Minister David Parker said today “New Zealand is one of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Next steps in action plan for indigenous rights kicks off
    Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson has today meet with more than 30 national Māori organisations in an online hui, kicking off the process to develop a plan for New Zealand to implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (the Declaration). The previous National Government signed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Iwi-led housing solutions build homes for the future
    Whai Kāinga, Whai Oranga will open on 20 October, to receive applications for investment through Te Tūāpapa Kura Kāinga – Ministry of Housing and Urban Development and Te Puni Kōkiri The $730m fund combines investment from Budget 2021 ($380m) and the Māori Infrastructure Fund ($350m) - the largest investment seen ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • E whakarite ana Te Kāwanatanga i ngā tūāpapa mō twhakamaumahara ki Te Petihana Reo Māori ka t...
    I te rā nei, i pānuihia e te Minita mō Manatū Taonga, ko Carmel Sepuloni, rāua ko te Minita Whanaketanga Māori, ko Willie Jackson, ā tērā tau, ka whakanuia rawatia te 50 o ngā tau mai i te whakatakotoranga o te petihana mō te Reo Māori me te huanga mai ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • E whakarite ana Te Kāwanatanga i ngā tūāpapa mō tewhakamaumahara ki Te Petihana Reo Māori ka t...
    I te rā nei, i pānuihia e te Minita mō Manatū Taonga, ko Carmel Sepuloni, rāua ko te Minita Whanaketanga Māori, ko Willie Jackson, ā tērā tau, ka whakanuia rawatia te 50 o ngā tau mai i te whakatakotoranga o te petihana mō te Reo Māori me te huanga mai ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government green lights rapid antigen testing
    Some of the country’s largest businesses have put in an order for 300,000 approved rapid antigen tests for their workforce, after working at pace with the Government on a new scheme unveiled by Associate Minister of Health and Research, Science and Innovation Ayesha Verrall. A coalition of around 25 businesses ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government lays foundations as Māori Language Petition commemorations take shape for 2022
    Taiaha hā! Taiaha hā! - Te kairangi o te reo hoki mai ki taku tikanga, ki taku taumata, ki taku reo, ki taku ao. He reo whai tikanga, he reo whai mana, he reo whai tangata koe. Ki te whāngaihia te reo Māori he ao tēnā, ki te kore he ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Major contract awarded to power NZ Battery investigation
    A consortium of specialist firms has been awarded a major contract to advance the New Zealand Battery Project’s feasibility investigation into a pumped hydro storage scheme at Lake Onslow, the Minister of Energy and Resources Megan Woods has announced. “This contract represents a major milestone as it begins the targeted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Additional Funding for Foodbanks and Social Agencies
    The Government has approved $13.55m from the Covid Response and Recovery Fund to support foodbanks and social sector agencies, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni has announced. “Foodbanks and social agencies across Auckland are doing a great job supporting their communities and the Government is today providing them with more ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Generating a new generation of guardians
    The Government is supporting a Whakatōhea-led project undertaking landscape scale restoration in forests and around vulnerable rivers within the Eastern Bay of Plenty, Minister of Conservation Kiri Allan says. “The Whakatōhea Tiaki Taiao project will employ four people to undertake pest and weed control, ecosystem restoration and monitoring over three ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Parts of Waikato, Northland staying at Alert Level 3
    The parts of Waikato that have been in Alert Level 3 and Northland will remain in Alert Level 3 for a few more days, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. Auckland remains at Alert Level 3, Step 1. “Based on the latest public health information, ministers have decided that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New courthouses for Tauranga and Whanganui
    The Government is moving ahead with new courthouses in Tauranga and Whanganui, which the Justice Minister says provide an opportunity to redesign court facilities that help put victims at the heart of the justice system. “These courthouses are part of the 10-year infrastructure investment plan to restore and modernise Ministry ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech on the launch of the consultation on the development of the Emissions Reduction Plan
    Tēnā koutou katoa. Ngā mihi o te ata. Earlier this month Save the Children wrote to me with their most up to date analysis on the impact of climate change. What they said was that children born in Aotearoa today will experience up to five times as many heatwaves and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Opportunity to shape NZ’s first Emissions Reduction Plan
    The Government is inviting New Zealanders to inform the country’s first Emissions Reduction Plan with the release of a consultation document containing a range of policy ideas to decrease the country’s emissions, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Climate Change Minister James Shaw announced today. The Emissions Reduction Plan will set ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Convention on Biological Diversity COP 15, Virtual High-Level Segment
    Kia ora koutou katoa. I want to thank China for hosting this critically important Conference of the Parties. We are all here for the same reason. Biodiversity loss, and the ongoing degradation of nature, are accelerating at an unprecedented rate. These losses are causing irreparable harm to our planet’s ability ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government books show resilient and strong economy
    The end of year audited Crown accounts released today show the Government’s health led approach to the COVID-19 pandemic has protected New Zealand’s economy. “On almost every indicator the accounts show that the New Zealand economy has performed better than forecast, even as recently as the Budget in May. It ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • ​​​​​​​Health system is ready for assisted-dying law
    The health system is ready for the implementation of the End of Life Choice Act when it takes effect next month, making assisted dying legal in New Zealand, Health Minister Andrew Little said today. The law received 65.1 per cent support in a public referendum held alongside last year’s general ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Taking a lead in threat to curious kea
    Reducing lead poisoning of kea, the world’s only alpine parrot and one-time New Zealand bird of the year winner, is the goal of a two year project being backed by the Government’s Jobs for Nature programme, Minister of Conservation Kiri Allan says.  “Lead poisoning is a serious threat to this ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government provides certainty to working holiday and seasonal visa holders and employers for summer
    The Government will extend Working Holiday visas and Supplementary Seasonal Employment (SSE) work visas for six months to provide more certainty to employers and visa holders over the coming summer period, Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi has announced. “This offers employers and visa holders the certainty they’ve been asking for going ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Lower card fees good for businesses, consumers
    The Bill to help lower the cost of the fees retailers get charged for offering contactless and debit payment options is another step closer to becoming law, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Dr David Clark said today. “COVID-19 has changed the way we spend our money, with online and contactless ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Mandatory vaccination for two workforces
    High-risk workers in the health and disability sector to be fully vaccinated by 1 December, 2021, and to receive their first dose by 30 October School and early learning staff and support people who have contact with children and students to be fully vaccinated by 1 January, 2022, and to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Fund allows more Pacific community led vaccinations
    The Government has made $1.1 million available through ‘The Prepare Pacific Community Vaccination Fund’ to directly support Pacific community-led initiatives towards increasing vaccinations, said Associate Minister of Health, Aupito William Sio. “The best way to protect our communities from COVID-19 is through vaccination. “We need to explore every avenue to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Small business at heart of economic recovery across APEC region
    The Minister for Small Business says support for small and medium enterprises will remain ongoing as the Asia-Pacific region moves through response and recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic. Stuart Nash today chaired a virtual summit from Wellington for the APEC Small and Medium Enterprises Ministerial Meeting (SMEMM). “APEC Ministers responsible ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Restrictions on abortion medication lifted for health practitioners
    Abortion services can now be provided in primary care, meaning people can access this care from someone like their trusted GP and in a familiar setting, Associate Minister of Health Dr Ayesha Verrall announced today. “By lifting some restrictions on the funded medications used for early medical abortions, more health ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Record day for Māori vaccinations
    More than 10,000 vaccinations were administered to Māori yesterday, the highest number in the vaccine campaign so far, Associate Minister of Health (Maori Health) Peeni Henare announced. There were 10,145 doses administered across the motu yesterday this is almost equivalent to the population of Hāwera. The doses are made up ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Statement on Joint Cooperation in Agriculture between Ireland and New Zealand
    8 October 2021 - Dublin, Ireland Agriculture plays an important role in the economic, social, environmental, and cultural wellbeing of Ireland and New Zealand. We are focused on increasing the productivity, inclusivity, and resilience of our respective primary sectors. As agri-food exporting nations, we also share a commitment to a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Northland to move to Alert Level 3 tonight
    Northland will move to Alert Level 3 restrictions from 11:59pm tonight following recent information on the risk presented by the positive case initially tested in Whangarei earlier this week and confirmed in Auckland yesterday, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said. The person is now in an Auckland Managed Isolation Quarantine ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Prime Minister's Christmas Card Competition
    It’s that time of year again! If you’d like to help design the Prime Minister’s official Christmas card, here’s how to take part: Draw, paint, sketch or craft an image you’d like to see on the front of this year’s Christmas card. It can be anything you want – a traditional ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Speech : Pacific Public Sector Fono – Friday 8th October 2021
    Greetings and Acknowledgements and Warm Pacific Greetings to one and all. It’s a privilege to be able to join with you this afternoon and share some remarks on how important you are to our communities throughout Aotearoa, and across the Pacific region. COVID-19 has been described as a one in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Pacific Public Sector Fono – Friday 8th October 2021
    Greetings and Acknowledgements and Warm Pacific Greetings to one and all. It’s a privilege to be able to join with you this afternoon and share some remarks on how important you are to our communities throughout Aotearoa, and across the Pacific region. COVID-19 has been described as a one in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Ruapehu social housing pilot, providing value for generations to come
    Housing Minister Hon Dr Megan Woods today announced the development of six social housing units funded by the Government’s Covid response infrastructure fund, to help work toward resolving Ruapehu's lack of social housing. “The Crown’s investment of $2.1 million in this project will provide value to the community for generations ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Children’s Commissioner Appointed
    Social Development and Employment Minister Carmel Sepuloni has announced  Judge Frances Eivers’ appointment as the new Children’s Commissioner. Judge Eivers, who is currently a District Court Judge in Manukau, will take up the role on 1 November 2021. She has been appointed for two years. The Children’s Commissioner is an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • More support for business available from today
    The third round of the Resurgence Support Payment opened for applications this morning. “The RSP helps businesses with their fixed costs, such as rent. It provides cashflow to businesses and supports them to pay their bills while the country is at Alert Level 2 or above,” Grant Robertson said. “The ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Compelling case made for modernising local government
    Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta today welcomed the interim report on the Future for Local Government Review.  “Our system of local democracy and governance needs to evolve to be fit for the future. New Zealand is changing and growing, and there are some significant challenges presenting not only now with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago