“Mr Slater’s made it quite clear”: Key standup transcript pt1

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1. Mark Derby 1

   19 August 2014 at 1:28 pm

   Do we still have a Minister of Justice? If so, what does she do with her time?
   • One Anonymous Bloke 1.1

     19 August 2014 at 3:32 pm

     Ratfucking.
     • adam 1.1.1

       19 August 2014 at 5:06 pm

       Short and to the point OAB.
2. ghostwhowalksnz 2

   19 August 2014 at 1:42 pm

   Nothing to do with the National Party !

   Yeah right that has to be a Tui billboard
3. Tracey 3

   19 August 2014 at 1:52 pm

   Karol

   You have misspelled slater as salter.

   Alsi the sis have not entirely backed keys story. Key denied the OIA request crossed his desk. SIS says it followed no surprises policy. That policy requires OIAs to hit Keys desk. They do say Key made no comment on the request. BUT he told espiner the request didnt hit his desk… The SIS do not back him on that aspect.
   • karol 3.1

     19 August 2014 at 2:10 pm

     Thanks. Will correct the spelling.

     Good point about the SIS not fully backing up Key. My post was focusing more on the transcript. I was leaving it up to others to examine whether the SIS claim stacks up.

     Updated the post to link to your comment.
4. wonderpup 4

   19 August 2014 at 1:54 pm

   There is a fascinating thing going on here. Repeated phases like “look at the left”. It really reminds me of stuff that Derrin Brown does to influence people – check out
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1f_o7xgvl8 to see his tricks to make people comply.
   • felix 4.1

     19 August 2014 at 9:05 pm

     good observation
5. geoff 5

   19 August 2014 at 2:19 pm

   We’re getting to see the sulky Key now, the guy who isn’t used to losing.
6. geoff 6

   19 August 2014 at 3:00 pm

   I wonder if Key’s refusal to condemn any action by Slater or Collins is because they have personal dirt on him.
   • One Anonymous Bloke 6.1

     19 August 2014 at 3:36 pm

     Follow the money.
     • AmaKiwi 6.1.1

       19 August 2014 at 8:13 pm

       + 100

       Always follow the money!

       That’s what brought down Nixon. It’s the first rule of the IRD, police, SIS, FBI. Follow the money.
7. geoff 7

   19 August 2014 at 3:05 pm

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11311222

   “Judith Collins’ decision to leak information to blogger Cameron Slater was “unwise” and she is now on her last chance, Prime Minister John Key says.”

   Wasn’t she already on her last chance?

   I reckon she’s got something over Key.

   This just looks like weak leadership from Key, he’s not in control of his own caucus or his own office it seems.
8. Te Reo Putake 8

   19 August 2014 at 3:20 pm

   “It’ interesting to compare the guy standing behind Key’s left shoulder in the video …”

   They’re two different people, Karol. I was fascinated by the guy to Key’s left in the standup. He had the posture and eye movement of a DPS security operative, but nodded every time Key got his ‘phrase ‘o’ the day’ or other talking points out. Dunno who he is or what his role is, but he stuck tight to Key (despite arriving late) and tried to keep a poker face throughout.
   • karol 8.1

     19 August 2014 at 8:56 pm

     Thanks, TRP. They kinda looked similar But i was interested in the tweet, anyway.
     • Te Reo Putake 8.1.1

       19 August 2014 at 9:01 pm

       Yep, the tweet certainly shows how little he cares about being associated with the lowest of the low.
9. Te Reo Putake 9

   19 August 2014 at 3:24 pm

   Ps, Karol, hope you don’t mind, but I drafted this up as a post a few days ago. I hope it’s complementary to your work.

   Press Pass Revoked.

   So, it’s come to this. John Key, the darling of the media for seven years, finally knows what its like to be the target of their scorn. This media stand up in Parliament will go down as the worst twenty minutes in the PM’s political life. Dunno about you, but I’ve never seen the Parliamentary Press gallery smirking at his answers before. The disrespect was palpable.

   The nervous swallows, sneaky fart squeaks and help me mummy mumbles are such a stark contrast to his usual relaxed bluster, it’s startling. It’s as if he has forgotten every lesson of his many, many hours of media training. Well apart from the one about calling Nicky Hager a leftwing conspiracy theorist. He remembered that about a dozen times. Oh, and the left don’t want to debate the issues that matter to Kiwis. No, really, we don’t.

   It’s twenty minutes long, but worth watching over and over again. It’s like Dunnokeyo and David Brent swapped minds for the afternoon. Somewhere in Slough, Key’s brain is trying to remember the lyrics to Freelove Freeway, while in Wellington Brent’s brain is trying to work out whether it would be a good idea to just run away.

   If you can’t spare twenty minutes here are the highlights:

   It starts with a couple of minutes of framing (conspiracy theorist, it’s the left that’s dirty etc).

   At 2.20 calls Hager a liar for the first time. Denies that the IP address of the hacker points to the ninth floor, then when it’s pointed out that the IP belongs specifically to his office says ‘I don’t have those details’. That’s all good though, because “Mr Slater” says so.

   3.45: Key says that its fine to go into unprotected websites. No, really, he does actually say that.

   4.40: Claims Hager “has nothing to prove it”. Journalist points out that Hager has the emails and Key replies ‘nah, well, mumble, mumble… making things up’.

   5.30: Journo starts taking the piss. ‘So your enquiry is called Cameron Slater?’

   7.00: Q: if even 5 or 10% is true that’s damning. A: No, it’s not! (It’s only 5 or 10% damning?)

   8.45: Asked more about Ede and at 9.00 yelps the single most revealing answer to a question he has has ever given. Jason Ede sleeps with the fishes.

   10.00: Cameron Slater has nothing to do with the National Party, apparently. They hardly ever speak, maybe four times a year. No, really. If Cam chacks his facebook page, I’m picking he’s just been de-friended.

   14.00: Key can’t be arsed doing anything about Judith Collins being accused of corruption. ‘Lets wait and see’. The journalists are starting to hunt as a pack. He’s asked if he’ll read the book. Key starts to get a rictus grin and a bad case of the tranzrail eyes and says ‘maybe after the election’. He’s a bit busy, apparently.

   14.40: A journalist laughs at Key. At him, not with him.

   16.15: Squeaks like bat when asked if he stands by Jason Ede.

   18.15: One journo appears to be reduced to biting his lip to stop himself laughing.

   Key’s media wonk calls it to a halt at twenty minutes. A mercy killing if ever I saw one. It’s at times like these that you find out who your friends really are, John. Never mind, though, Hoskings is still taking your calls. For now.
10. Dialey 10

    19 August 2014 at 3:28 pm

    To Key’s attempt to deflect his actions, by accusing others of deviousness, I have one comment:
    “When the social contract breaks from above, it breaks from below as well.”
    • One Anonymous Bloke 10.1

      19 August 2014 at 3:52 pm

      Powerful men are well advised not to use violence,
      For violence has a habit of returning;
      Thorns and weeds grow wherever an army goes,
      And lean years follow a great war.
      A general is well advised
      To achieve nothing more than his orders,
      No matter how strong his army;
      To carry out his orders
      But not glory, boast or be proud;
      To do what is dictated by necessity,
      But not by bloodlust;
      For even the fiercest force will weaken with time,
      And then its violence will return, and kill it.

      Lao Tzu c. 5,000 BCE.
11. adam 11

    19 August 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Thanks for the great work Karol!

    I must say reading it, is just as disturbing as watching it. In some ways worse – you can see the propaganda tricks he’s trying to pull, in black and white – and they send a shudder down my spine.
12. feijoa 12

    19 August 2014 at 6:44 pm

    TRP, that media standup link seems to have gone
    Taken down? damage control???
    • Te Reo Putake 12.1

      19 August 2014 at 8:59 pm

      Try here, feijoa: http://www.3news.co.nz/Video-John-Key-talks-Nicky-Hagers-Dirty-Politics/tabid/1607/articleID/356848/Default.aspx
13. Thinker 13

    19 August 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Herald (19 August) has Slater confirming Ede as the person, and putting him down (as only Slater can) for going into hiding and not front-facing the media.

    So, Key wasted his time, a bit, trying to say it was all fiction.
14. ak 14

    19 August 2014 at 8:40 pm

    So the son of a National Party president who pasted Helen Clark’s face to pornographic pictures and broadcast them to the world and who is in regular phone contact with John Key is nothing to do with the National Party? Sure. Great journalists we’ve got: one day their role in this will come out too.
15. SouthDeez 15

    20 August 2014 at 1:24 am

    Key’s clearly trying to infer that all of the left wing party’s in the house are, in one way or another, connected to the F John Key chant, the effigy burning, the National billboard defacing, and the allegations made in the book. So, I don’t get why journalists don’t pull him up on his calls about how dirty politics is coming from the left and how the left don’t want to debate policy, when Hager isn’t affiliated with any political party.

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