National seats at risk in Auckland

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1. Patricia Bremner 1

   3 August 2020 at 2:29 pm

   I am fast running out of popcorn!!
   • Anne 1.1

     3 August 2020 at 3:51 pm

     I have never slurped on so much tea and bickies (while watching the antics) in my life.
     • Incognito 1.1.1

       3 August 2020 at 4:12 pm

       😀
   • Treetop 1.2

     3 August 2020 at 5:31 pm

     I am still trying to work out if the National Party nominee (Wood) for Palmerston North is taking the mickey out of the National Party and will withdraw his name close to the election.
     • Michael 1.2.1

       4 August 2020 at 5:59 pm

       Not after his father put up all that money.
2. RedBaronCV 2

   3 August 2020 at 2:48 pm

   Okaeee what do you know that we don't and how long before we find out – guesses acceptable
3. roblogic 3

   3 August 2020 at 3:42 pm

   Dan Bidois (Nat) must be nervous about Northcote as it's been trending to Shanan Halbert (Lab) and all he talks about is clogging up Onewa Rd with more cars
   • Sacha 3.1

     3 August 2020 at 5:39 pm

     one trick pony
4. Ad 4

   3 August 2020 at 4:33 pm

   It just feels like Labour are coasting.

   I would be more impressed if Labour had a chance at taking out one of New Zealand's regional seats that National dominates.

   I know it's not MMP, but when the rural-urban divide of electoral seats is so stark between Labour in the cities and National across the rest of the map, we're actually perpetuating a massive and growing rural-urban cultural divide.
   • Cinny 4.1

     3 August 2020 at 5:13 pm

     I'm predicting Dr. custard (nick smith) will lose his seat to Rachel Boyak, it's sort of a regional seat.
     • Michael 4.1.1

       4 August 2020 at 6:13 pm

       I'm picking squabbling Labour v Greens candidates will gift him another term. Again.
       • Cinny 4.1.1.1

         4 August 2020 at 6:32 pm

         Not this time.

         Last election it was different due to a generous donation from a deceased local, on the condition they stood a strong candidate in the Nelson seat, it was nothing to do with squabbling.
   • Peter 4.2

     3 August 2020 at 5:34 pm

     Some of the regional MPs like Adams and Falloon are doing their bit. Probably means the National candidates there will have majorities of down towards 10,000.

     What sort of not coasting would Labour have to not do to have a chance in those seats?
   • ScottGN 4.3

     3 August 2020 at 6:08 pm

     Tukituki could fall to Labour if the polls continue as they are currently.

     But ultimately the urban-regional divide in electorates is the product of consolidation in order to make way for MMP and the list seats. Almost all the old provincial safe Labour seats based on smaller cities have been swallowed by their surrounding, extremely safe National rural seats. Even Dunedin hasn’t been immune, the old Dunedin South took on a much bluer tinge in the last couple of boundary adjustments.
     • Muttonbird 4.3.1

       3 August 2020 at 6:20 pm

       Yule has been busted flagrantly breaking the rules by using taxpayer funds for candidate advertisements.

       Paywalled, but you get the picture.

       https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12350754

       The Labour-led government recently set up a water quality body to to oversee councils who like to cut corners. It has been created to ensure Yule’s water poisoning debacle doesn’t happen again.

       If I were the Labour candidate there I would be highlighting it is Labour which looks out for your health, not National.

       Even though this is patently obvious with our gold standard Covid-19 response.
       • roblogic 4.3.1.1

         3 August 2020 at 10:10 pm

         Labour should not be complacent, as Bomber rightly notes we are only one fuckup away from a renewed COVID outbreak. Our health system remains chronically underfunded in the middle of a pandemic and border management are so stretched (again lacking capability due to neoliberal cost cutting mentality) that they had to call in the Army to help.

         Hardly any businesses or public facilities have bothered with the QR code thing and the government’s contact tracing app is only used sporadically. This is not good enough, there should be nationwide campaigns to take this shit seriously. There should be advice on where to get a proper mask if you feel sick. The government Covid updates should still be a regular feature in the media, but it feels like they have slacked off.

         Oh yeah and why are we letting thousands of permanent “residents” into the country who never really lived here, ahead of NZ citizens? Our visa and immigration rules are as effective as toilet paper in a hurricane. Time to batten down the hatches and rethink our slackarsed exploitative hypertourism and hyperimmigration economy
         • RedBaronCV 4.3.1.1.1

           3 August 2020 at 11:16 pm

           Agree about the PR's and no doubt some passport holders where it is a second or subsequent passport. I've been over on pen mike We can't keep them out legally but legally I'm sure we could run a points system to ration the quarantine places. Bottom of the list would be those who have never bothered to live here- at the top single passport holders with no visa's to live anywhere else
   • Scott 4.4

     3 August 2020 at 8:06 pm

     Here what you mean –

     Am looking at Kiritapu Allen in the East Cape, don't know if that's in play but would like to think so; Nelson a good shot; Perhaps Whanganui?; Wairarapa should go to red; and it would be good to see us push one of the Hamilton seats as they were the old FPP battleground, but don't think they're likely to be in play.

     Of course we do hold the Maori seats, and saw there was a big launch, and looking like a big campaign to keep those.
   • Maurice 4.5

     4 August 2020 at 12:36 am

     Indeed – we would do well to remember that both food and water comes from those rural areas.

     Some rurals are laughing their (wooly!) socks off watching Auckland beg for the sewage flowing down the Waikato – for DRINKING water!
   • Michael 4.6

     4 August 2020 at 6:03 pm

     Why does it matter? Under MMP a vote in the cities is worth the same as one in the sticks. If the gumboots want to vote for reactionary racists let them. Provided enough people in the cities vote for decent human beings (well, politicians) Aotearoa can survive the throwbacks. OTOH, a Labour candidate who appealed to hillbillies isn't worth having (Labour's had a few over the years, affirming my judgment of their worth). Farming is controlled by corporations. Farmers are irrelevant.
5. Patricia Bremner 5

   3 August 2020 at 6:50 pm

   You picked what would happen re Nuwanthie and other candidates. Wow.
6. novacastrian 6

   4 August 2020 at 6:34 am

   Many here are calling it coasting, but really the strategy appears to be a simple but effective "Shut up and say nothing".

   Labour has made virtually zero policy releases, yet still riding high in the polls, whereas Nationals and Greens are making policy announcements and getting torn to shreds.

   Think Jacinda has taken the penguins of Madagascar approach…just smile and wave boys

   Same strategy appears to be working for Biden in the US, the less he says the better his Polling gets. With Trump and Biden as the US hopefuls, it's sort of like watching a rerun of the movie Dumb and Dumber. Makes you glad to live in NZ.
   • Muttonbird 6.1

     4 August 2020 at 7:40 am

     Bless. You just wrote down what Heather Duplicity-Allan told you last night.
     • Michael 6.1.1

       4 August 2020 at 6:19 pm

       Not quite what she broadcast last night. Far more critical of Labour than Novocastrian's fairly mild analysis. FWICS, Labour's heavyweights are busy running the government and doing all sorts of things that could be seen as "election campaign" if Parliament had risen earlier. As it is, this narrative of busy, competent delivery seems to be going down well with voters still amenable to reason. Not sure how many of them there are: my bandwidth is swamped by Crusher's Natzis making all the noise.
   • mickysavage 6.2

     4 August 2020 at 9:01 am

     Budget 2020 has all the policies that you need to know about. Have a read if you want to see the direction Labour wants to move the country into.
     • Michael 6.2.1

       4 August 2020 at 6:21 pm

       True. Reckon Labour campaigners need to make more use of it rather than assume every voter's memorised every word by heart.
   • observer 6.3

     4 August 2020 at 9:47 am

     The Greens have announced a full policy on the economy, including tax and benefits, followed by even more detailed policy at their conference/launch last weekend.

     National have re-announced some roads. Nothing is costed at all. Their policy pages are blank.

     Lumping them together is nonsense.

     As for Labour, they launch their campaign on Saturday. If you'd been paying attention at all, you'd know that this is the last week of Parliament, and policies are being introduced (hopefully passed) by the government. Then the House rises, and we focus on the different parties. Which are not the same as the government.

     This is really basic stuff, it's MMP for beginners. Is this your first election here?
     • Muttonbird 6.3.1

       4 August 2020 at 9:50 am

       I hope Ad reads this.
     • Michael 6.3.2

       4 August 2020 at 6:22 pm

       Patronising and smug – the very attitudes from Labour insiders that drive away voters who are not fanatics in their droves.
       • observer 6.3.2.1

         4 August 2020 at 7:27 pm

         Novocastrian has made a series of previous comments which have been wrong on the facts. I have previously pointed out his/her errors (on numbers, history etc) and provided links to facts and figures, but s/he has never responded, or engaged at all. At some point patience runs out with trolling. So yes, patronising and smug if this were a discussion in good faith. But it isn't.

         Assumptions can be smug too. I am not, and never have been, a Labour insider, or party member at all. I was previously a member of the Greens and will give them my vote, in 2020 as in 2017.

         Anyone who genuinely thinks National and the Greens have announced similar policy detail only needs to go to their websites to see the difference:

         https://www.greens.org.nz/policy_election_initiatives_2020

         https://www.national.org.nz/policy

         A stark difference. But only if "Novocastrian" wants to be informed.
7. Enough is Enough 7

   4 August 2020 at 10:31 am

   What scandal are you referring to?

   We have two words starting with "D" and "P" that we use when National infers there is something scandalous about to break in the Labour party.

   Lets get out of the gutter and talk policy
   • mickysavage 7.1

     4 August 2020 at 3:47 pm

     This site talks policy all the time. Dirty Politics would be leaking and smearing someone with allegations that have not been made public. There is no smear here and it does not even refer to any scandal. It just points out that a major scandal could make a major difference to the campaign.
8. Michael 8

   4 August 2020 at 5:58 pm

   Samarakone is certainly photogenic. I know that shouldn't matter to sober voters but not everyone approaches their political deliberations with the wisdom of Pericles. This woman may appeal to red-blooded types. I've heard [deleted uncalled for and potentially defamatory – MS].

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