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NZ’s climate change guinea pigs

Written By: - Date published: 12:10 pm, July 21st, 2017 - 56 comments
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Last week RNZ covered a conflict between residents of a coastal village and their local council over climate change action (video below). The Whakatane District Council wants to evict 34 households because it believes they are no longer safe in extreme weather event floods. They’ve offered to buy out the residents but for well below previous market values (less than half). Some of the residents are wanting to stay, others are saying the buy-out isn’t enough. Where the council and residents appear to agree is that Matata is about to set a precedent for the whole country.

This is hugely significant for NZ. While South Dunedin has been wrestling with floods and impending climate change issues for a while, it hasn’t yet gotten to the point where people are having to move and where the big, ugly issues of lost financial housing assets comes into play. So no-one has yet solved this problem. What’s fair when your home is about to be lost? And how much should financial investment also be considered in what is fair?

I feel for the residents. I’d probably be one of the people who would want to stay for as long as possible. For people that have a connection to place, being able to stay can outweigh financial considerations. The residents in the video strike me as good kiwi blokes and blokesses, of the kind I’ve known in many different coastal communities. I look at where they live and completely understand why they want to be there and why they want to stay.

However if it was a place I didn’t feel a deep connection with, I’d probably be ok with taking what compensation I could and moving on. My sympathy starts to wane a bit when I hear the complaints about not being paid enough and not being able to afford to buy the equivalent elsewhere. Yes, that sucks, especially for people that have been working hard to get free of a mortgage and will need to spend much more time doing that. But we’ve known about climate change for a very long time. This is a community highly vulnerable to climate change. If not the flood issue, then eventual sea level rise.

Many of the houses were rebuilt after a massive flood and slip in 2005. The council is being blamed for allowing that rebuild, and in hindsight it does look like a significant error on their part (at the least all the rebuilt houses should have been moveable), but perhaps it was just a deferral of the inevitable, and in the end we’re all going to pay.

In a capitalist society where housing is a commodity eventually someone is will lose out when there is an end to the pass-the-parcel property values game. Who should be left holding the dud? At what point do councils start notifying that areas will have to be abandoned, and then the asset value of the land and buildings becomes useless? Are the people in Matata the fortunate ones because in the decades to come the council probably won’t have enough money to pay out anything for the other sea level communities that will by then be facing inundation or their own flooding/slips? Maybe we need to rethink putting all our eggs into the financial investment basket.

We’ve got some tough years ahead, and this is where we need to be at our most creative and think laterally rather than seeing everything through the money lens. If the people residing there, who’ve made their lives there, want to stay, why not give them a cash payment and let them stay. It opens up their choices. Rezone the land, don’t let any new builds happen, or sales, put in additional civil defence protections for when the next flood comes, but let them stay. Those people can then make better use of their time, their homes, their income and their working lives.

This is congruent with Powerdown thinking, where we make use of existing resources and where the currency of highest value isn’t the NZ$ but community and the ability to work with what we’ve got. Bulldozing ten year old houses that are still sound is a profligate waste in a world at the limits of growth and in a country in the midst of a housing crisis with immense change on the horizon. Forcing locals into legal action is likewise a squandering of community right at the time when we need it most.

Beyond that there are serious questions about what councils are doing to prepare for climate change. In 2008 the Ministry for the Environment produced a series of guides for local bodies on how to assess and prepare for climate change,

Thus, councils and communities should be giving serious consideration to the potential future impacts of climate change on their functions and services. Particularly important are infrastructure and developments that will need to cope with climate conditions in 50–100 years’ time. Examples include stormwater drainage systems, planning for irrigation schemes, development of low-lying land already subject to flood risk, and housing and infrastructure along already eroding coastlines. Climate change may also bring opportunities (eg, growing new horticultural crops in a particular area) to which councils may wish to pay attention.

It’s past time that we stopped thinking this is a problem for later generations to deal with. We’re here sooner than expected and things are likely to move faster than we think we need to be prepared for. I find it bizarre beyond belief that 6 years after Christchurch NZ still doesn’t have an integrated tsunami warning process in place. Maybe it’s always like this with change that’s too big to take in properly. But I can’t help wondering if NZ’s apparent complacency isn’t simply inability to act due to shock at what our country has become. Everywhere I look at the moment I see stress and fractures in our natural ability to do the right things. But I also fractures in the forces of neoliberalism. That along with our innate resiliency and the willingness to push back gives me some hope.

56 comments on “NZ’s climate change guinea pigs ”

  1. Bill 1

    Global warming kills capitalism. It’s that simple.

    When the likes of settlements like Matata and the 1001 other likely affects of warming are stacked up against solving or over-coming problems through the medium of finance, it doesn’t and won’t pan out.

    I don’t expect people to abandon the habits of lifetimes easily. There is a huge amount of psychological and emotional investment placed in how we do things, and in the various pathways to reward and meaning that come from all of that.

    Essentially we are like monkeys with their fists clenched around ‘bounty’ that they grasped by way of slipping an open hand through a hole fashioned in a tethered coconut. The only way to extract that hand is by unclenching and letting the ‘bounty’ drop. That’s not happening willingly – it’s a simple life saving sacrifice that won’t compute, even though the hunters with the big clubs are approaching.

    I’ll predict many, many people will be thrown under the bus (the hugely populated supporting layers of capitalism’s ‘wealth’ pyramid) before we finally relinquish our grasp on liberal capitalism. That’s assuming we ever even do before the mighty club of global warming swipes everything away.

    We worked and sacrificed for what we’ve got dammit! We’re entitled to this! And with out this, then what?

    Failure of imagination and the addiction of habit. A wonderful combination in extremis.

    • weka 1.1

      Nice monkey grabbing fist analogy.

      I’d be interested in what those people thinking about climate change. They’re saying that the flood risk isn’t as high as the council makes out (and one guy got full insurance on his house). What about the sea level stuff? Especially in light of what Macro is saying below.

  2. Macro 2

    And just down the road …..
    Ohope.
    Anyone with an eye to the future who has visited these lovely beaches on the Bay of Plenty coastline will have observed that many of the houses – and some are very substantial – are built little more than a few centimetres above high tide level on a a sand spit protected only by sand dunes.
    Enjoy these beaches now because in a few years they will be gone. A 10cm rise in sea level on shorelines such as these can cause a 15 metre inland erosion.

    • weka 2.1

      Broken link.

      • Macro 2.1.1

        It’s a pdf.
        The relevant section is summarised thus:

        Sea Level Rise Shown
        to Drive Coastal Erosion
        PAGES 55-57
        Our research has shown that an important
        relationship exists between sea level rise and
        sandy beach erosion.The link is highly
        multiplicative, with the long-term shoreline
        retreat rate averaging about 150 times that of sea
        level rise. For example, a sustained rise of 10 cm
        in sea level could result in 15 m of shoreline erosion.

        Such an amount is more than an order of
        magnitude greater than would be expected from
        a simple response to sea level rise through inundation
        of the shoreline.
        Sea level is certainly only one of many factors
        causing long-term beach change.Shoreline revisions
        from inlet dynamics and coastal engineering
        projects are more pronounced in most areas
        of the US. east coast and tend to mask the effect
        of a rise in sea level even over extended
        intervals.The implication is that sea level rise is a
        secondary but inexorable cause of beach erosion
        in such areas.

        my bold
        http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1029/00EO00034/asset/eost12721.pdf;jsessionid=BD28755C97BFD1933A4F8D159AA602D6.f04t03?v=1&t=j5d6glkh&s=4496de82d6e8fcb547115ce714d75a8132738bca
        that might work.

    • esoteric pineapples 2.2

      Sea level rises are currently 3cm a decade so at the very least, the level will be 9cm in thirty years

  3. “We’ve got some tough years ahead, and this is where we need to be at our most creative and think laterally rather than seeing everything through the money lens.”

    Yes indeed. And someone will pay – this is the truth of trickle down – someone pays and as it gets passed down the line the people who end up paying are the people less likely to be able to pay – eventually the people due to pay, can’t pay. The compensation isn’t enough, my insurance doesn’t cover it, the council says it isn’t liable, you were warned about this 20 years ago and so on.

    And still councils block multiple dwellings and alternative ways of living on land – including the old ways of tangata whenua.

    • weka 3.1

      I’d love to see more creative discussion around land sharing and multiple dwellings. We really need to reconstruct our whole approach to that. I get that councils have concerns about their infrastructure load, and there are perceived issues about rural land use, but this would be part of solving the housing crisis too.

      I’m not a fan of infill because I think open space has value and because we’re going to need it for food and resource growing eventually, but I also recognise that we are blocking a whole bunch of viable solutions by stopping people living on land together.

      Agreed too that tangata whenua can teach us much.

  4. One Anonymous Bloke 4

    “Why not give them a cash payment and let them stay?”

    Because we will also foot the bill – via the civil defence budget etc. – for their inevitable rescue, repeated all over the country.

    I say invest a few of those inevitable ongoing costs of doing nothing and offer proper compensation. It’ll probably turn out to be a long-term saving, for those who are precious about the surplus.

    This is not something that local authorities can manage alone.

    • weka 4.1

      How much would it cost to have an evacuation plan for severe weather events?

      Proper compensation doesn’t solve the don’t want to move issues.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 4.1.1

        How much would it cost to have an evacuation plan for severe weather events?

        Civil Defence are responsible for implementing such plans, and the weather events would be on-going, so the effective cost to the CD budget is infinite.

        And yes, you’re right, no-one wants to move. I think compensation should be generous, which is a lot less than infinite.

        • weka 4.1.1.1

          Making a plan is a one off, not an ongoing cost.

          I think lots of people will be ok to move. But the ones that want to stay where the situation isn’t that clear, I don’t have a problem with this provided the boundaries are clear on safety and no more compensation down the road.

      • Sabine 4.1.2

        always remember, your ’emergency dudes and dudettes that will come and save you are volunteers for the most and sadly, not many want to volunteer anymore or can as firefighter volunteers have to live in proximity to their station and with our housing precariat that has started to be a recruitment issue.

        so the question is not “how much will it cost’, but rather will we have the ‘manpower’.

        Cause once you have multiples emergencies you might find that the last bake sale to raise funds for an ambulance or a firetruck just did not cut it.

        other then that the question would be

        a. how many will need evacuating. – how many of those will require assistance
        b. how easy or hard can you get to those needing to be evacuating
        c. can people self evacuate or would that risk another emergency
        d. do you have any other emergencies gong on at the same time
        e. do you have life stock to evacuate
        f. time of evacuation

        but generally, sorry we don’t quite have the resources i am afraid, and the lack of preparedness showed when we had that cyclone come through and all sorts of crap went wrong. so if you have issues on more then one front you might find that a. we are short staffed, and b. the human resources might have to leave work first before they can get started helping to evacuate people.

        disclaimer: my partner is ’emergency services’ volunteer and yes, i have provided baked goods to raise money for a fire station.

        essentially if you live in an are that you might have to evacuate, have your survival bag (papers, cash, bank cards, photos, stuff) ready, have a 5-10 gasoline tin to take, have torches, have your animals chipped and registered, find out your nearest evac centre (good luck with that in AKL – as the civil defense will let people know where to go in case of – yeah, not making that up) and have a plan ready with your whanau on how to meet up should you all be in different parts of town due to work/school etc.
        Also find out if there are shelters that will take pets, as a lot of time that is not allowed.
        If you worry that you might not be at home at time of an emergency set up a system with locals to check on pets, but also to check on people who might be housebound.

        • weka 4.1.2.1

          All good points. Personally, I don’t assume that the services where I live will function optimally for the reasons that you state.

          In this situation, if the council rezones the land but allows people to stay, I think there should be self-evacuations much earlier than normal. The community could even designate a local person to trigger that warning. This isn’t a suggestion I would necessarily make for lots of places in the country, but for a community that wants to stay, has already lived through one very large emergency, and is likely to have skills in dealing with shit, I think it’s ok to look at not treating them like city folk.

          So I’m not suggesting adding further burden to the services once an emergency is underway, but instead allowing people to keep living there, conditionally, and have a different plan for them. If they want to live there, in a big rain event they need to leave before the shit hits the fan, and that may mean abandoning their homes.

        • weka 4.1.2.2

          Sabine, I used that paragraph about evacuating in the SI state of emergency post. Let me know if you’re not ok with that and I’ll take it out.

    • roadrage 4.2

      The solution is simple. It has to maximize freedom. Agree council/state were at error, that residents who never heard of climate change were fools. Let them stay, pay them half, for the error, half of half from central govt. Then let them maximize… …oh wait then the fools might just spend the money reinforcing their homes.

      So yeah if pay them out they have to leave, if they whine tell them they have to pay for the cleanup of the site. Now institute a nz right to a warm dry home for everyone. Cover the social harm.

      • weka 4.2.1

        What’s wrong with them staying?

        • roadrage 4.2.1.1

          If paid out they might use the money to buyt lots of rocks. Which could exasperate erosion for others.

          • roadrage 4.2.1.1.1

            I do not agree with then notion that emergencies services will be put out saving home owners since its a slow erosion. Home owners do need to maximize their position and living in the home makes sense while using a payout to buy building land. But you know that stupid people exist, they don’t believe in climate change and so will use the money to fortify rather than flee.

            • weka 4.2.1.1.1.1

              The risk isn’t slow erosion, it’s a landslide in a bit rain event. Happens reasonably fast. Have just replied to Sabine above, if people want to stay, they need to accept a different level of CD/emergency service.

              Not really understanding your point about the rocks.

              • roadrage

                The beach homes being washed away… …sure the homes under a muddy hill,but wait! That’s most of nz. Loose volcanic soils getting wet. The council thought its okay to let them rebuild ain’t like mud prone slips aren’t the norm. Our major highways cant be kept clear what hope homes! So if the question is what’s the standard it should be warning people and getting them to move and not make matters worse for themselves. Pay outsmustbe conditional on.

                Take the over hanging rock problem in Littleton? And council saying some homes were under threat when they were being overly cautious. Its such a common nzproblem that has to be a cheap method to decide matters, like home owners allowed to take in some of the risk if they don’t exasperate the problem (andcounbcil don’t either). A case for the local govt ombudsman.

                • weka

                  I don’t think councils have enough money to pay out on all properties now at risk. I guess lots are still insured for acute events, but I suspect we are approaching a time when it won’t be possible to fully insure in many places.

  5. Denis Tegg 5

    You mention the 2008 guidelines which are now almost 10 years out of date. Even these are not being complied with by local councils.

    New guidelines have been finalised and have been on Minister’s desks for several months. It now seems almost certain they will not be released before the election. Why is that? Because the government does not want the content of the new guidelines to be made public in the run-up to the election – problem is the guts of the new guidelines has been inadvertently released. – http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11868570

    A Ministry PowerPoint – https://teggtalk.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/copy-of-the-presentation.pdf — confirms that under the new guidelines local councils will have to “stress test” new greenfield subdivision and major infrastructure projects against a sea level rise of 1.9 m and with a timeframe out to 2150. No doubt there are dozens of major subdivisions and infrastructure projects (including some major housing developments in Auckland?) which would fail a 1.9 m stress test. Best not to upset voters and more particularly developers and coastal property owners with some harsh climate change reality aye?

    Apart from the Herald , the mainstream media has been totally missing in action on this issue.

  6. esoteric pineapples 6

    First people deny climate change, and then they expect others to pay for their loss.

    • Gristle 6.1

      The Dunedin City council tried to put information about potential flooding on council property records so that they would show up in a LIM report. See ODT

      Community reaction (read land owners and real estate agents) got up in arms about this. Presumably on the basis that it impeded their ability to flick the property onto to others.

      Steps to take now:
      1. Place severe limitations on building below the 5m or 10m (above sea level) contour, for example no development, or, only with relocatable buildings, or go for it at your own risk (sign here………………………)
      2. Introducing LIM notification
      3. Councils to set up decent monitoring of areas prone to sea level incursion.
      4. Have the conversation with all rate payers about the level of responsibility that the local government should have with regard to compensation of affected properties.
      5. Get the insurance companies involved. (I was told by an insurance actuary that premium rates were going up and cover coming down on South Dunedin properties.)

  7. greywarshark 7

    2005. The houses were rebuilt. The Council should have known better and not allowed it. And wouldn’t the residents have fought them tooth and nail! Wouldn’t the Council have been accused of being redtape bound, pie in the sky, barriers to progress with their pettifogging demands and concerns. It is hard for Councils to go againsstrong lobbies, especially smaller ones.

    But the people who should have known and been able to help these local bodies are those in Local Government NZ. They probably did something in 2005, but it wasn’t enough. (I want to underline that but am not sure the thing will work.) They need, of course, major interaction and help from central government, which is in USA mode – over in the USA have admitted severe neglect of much of their infrastructure and of governmental oversight of it.

    LG has been trying:
    http://www.lgnz.co.nz/news-and-media/2017-media-releases/lgnz-election-manifesto-calls-for-joint-approach-to-managing-risk-and-resilience/
    Local Government New Zealand is urging an incoming government to commit to a collaborative approach and urgent action to manage the risks posed to New Zealand communities from extreme weather and seismic events.
    Recent events like the Kaikoura earthquake and the Edgecumbe flooding further put the spotlight on the need to improve readiness for hazardous events to reduce community and economic risks.

    In its election manifesto to be released at this weekend’s LGNZ Conference in Auckland, LGNZ says given the substantial risks New Zealand faces, including from climate change, a more strategic and comprehensive approach across the country is needed.
    The manifesto also reiterates the need for a Government supported Local Government Risk Agency to increase local capacity and develop a consistent standard of risk management.

    and
    New Zealand local government leaders join global community to …
    http://www.lgnz.co.nz/…/new-zealand-local-government-leaders-join-global-community-to-...
    Dec 1, 2015 – LGNZ President Lawrence Yule says New Zealand has much at stake and much to gain by adopting strong leadership on climate change and …

    Leading the Leaders – Waking up local government to NetZeroNZ …
    pureadvantage.org/news/2017/05/25/leading-the-leaders/
    May 25, 2017 – In addition, thirty-one New Zealand local authorities are signatories to the 2015 Local Government Leaders Declaration on Climate Change, …

    And the local officials and bureaucrats are trying to keep up professional standards; presumably they will be doing a better job than the Transport Authority and their caravan of bullshit. (Interesting, if you can’t find it I’ll put it up if you want to know more – just ask.) But whether the high gloss of professionalism includes rolling their sleeves up and sweating under the stress of hard but fair decision making on climate change, costing the changes and getting everyone to bear a fair proportion of it, and making constant reports to the people they so closely connect with – well there’s the rub.

    About Us : SOLGM
    http://www.solgm.org.nz/Category?Action=View&Category_id=1069
    SOLGM is the national membership organisation for local government professionals. … Our focus is on providing professional leadership, promoting innovation and … As at 30 June 2017, we had 615 members and all councils in New Zealand are … Simpson Grierson, as soon as possible following any legislative changes.

    A recent survey for local government showed this startling feature, /sarc
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503438&objectid=11888900
    A nation-wide local government survey has found many people want better value for money from their councils.
    That was reported in the Rotorua Daily Post. This has been recited by every ratepayer representative group since Adam and Eve!

    Another startling, but anodyne fact ascertained by Colmar Brunton (who wrote the questions – an SOLGM professional in the art of sliding away from the edge of crumbly precipices?)
    Key priority areas for improvement continue to be “sound financial decision making, delivering strong leadership to develop strategies for prosperity and wellbeing, and listening to, and acting upon, the needs of the community”.

    Just FYI here is a list of what control central gummint has over Councils, quite a lot don’t you think?
    https://www.dpmc.govt.nz/cabinet/portfolios/local-government
    Also central government has its own website about its little brothers and sisters
    called Local Council. It might be interesting to compare these to see where they differ slightly to get a feel for tensions and coagulations between the two.
    http://www.localcouncils.govt.nz/

    Local government tenders. It might suit central gummint not to do anything for NZs at all and just sit on the fence, chewing their stalk of grass, and criticising LG for not being perfect. The old adage that ‘Everyone’s an armchair critic’.
    https://www.lgtenders.co.nz/

    • Jeepers grey a lot of info in there. It must take you ages to compile, type up and post. Onya.

      • greywarshark 7.1.1

        Thanx marty mars
        I have just realised how important LG is and how much we need them to go on being there for us doing their service and promotion job for the region and the people who all live on the spot, and not in the heady denizens of Planet Keyless now Clueless.

  8. Ad 8

    Weka that’s a really dumb and cynical title.
    They are not “Guinea Pigs”.
    They are people.

  9. Molly 9

    James Hansen and others have just released a peer-reviewed paper, which does not view the current and future scenario with any optimism.

    Young people’s burden: requirement of negative CO2 emissions

    I’ve only had a quick look at the abstract and conclusion so far, but provided the link for those who may want to look deeper.

    From the conclusion:

    We conclude that the world has already overshot appropriate targets for GHG amount and global temperature, and we thus infer an urgent need for (1) rapid phasedown of fossil fuel emissions, (2) actions that draw down atmospheric CO2, and (3) actions that, at minimum, eliminate net growth of non-CO2 climate forcings. These tasks are formidable and, with the exception of the Montreal Protocol agreement on hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) that will halt the growth of their climate forcing (Appendix A13), they are not being pursued globally. Actions at citizen, city, state and national levels to reduce GHG emissions provide valuable experience and spur technical developments, but without effective global policies the impact of these local efforts is reduced by the negative feedback caused by reduced demand for and price of fossil fuels.

    Our conclusion that the world has overshot appropriate targets is sufficiently grim to compel us to point out that pathways to rapid emission reductions are feasible.


    On the other hand, if large fossil fuel emissions are allowed to continue, the scale and cost of industrial CO2 extraction, occurring in conjunction with a deteriorating climate and costly dislocations, may become unmanageable. Simply put, the burden placed on young people and future generations may become too heavy to bear.

    • weka 9.1

      That’s a reasonably clear and easy to understand position in the quote.

      I doubt that we will get meaningful CCS industrial tech (esp that doesn’t cause other problems), so best we get moving then.

  10. CLEANGREEN 10

    Agreed WEKA,

    These councils are not serious about climate change at all.

    They have all grasped at the government’s own road freight policy of building more roads and letting rail die.

    Rail moves one tonne of freight one km 5 to eight times less fuel used than a truck and emits only a fraction of greenhouse gasses .

    Our beaches in Gisborne are all loosing a metre of beach front every year now so inside five years the road that carries trucks north along the coast State highway 35 will be under the sea!!!!!!!

    Maybe then they will wake up?

    Same in HB where Hastings District Council has it’s beaches facing high erosion is also building link roads for trucks.!!!!!!

    When will they ever learn,
    When will they ever learn.

  11. Jenny Kirk 11

    Good post, Weka.
    But we cannot blame local councils for inaction. Quite a number of them are trying to effect change, but property owners (usually reasonably wealthy and able to argue against change in the Environment Court) won’t let them.
    Our local council, Whangarei, has been investigating the effects of climate change for some time now, but when they finally went around to the coastal areas to explain the likely adverse effects to residents, guess what ? People didn’t want to know, and they object to having their coastal property labelled as being hazardous or subject to erosion or sea flooding.
    Similar response from North Shore residents when I was a councillor there years ago, and did a survey about the likelihood of coastal erosion and went to talk to residents about it. Again, they did not want any “markers” put on their property maps.

  12. Sabine 12

    There is no way local government could pay out all of those that live coastal and in flood plains to move.

    One day its simple gonna be take this money now and leave, or stay for as long as you can/want and get nothing and charged for the cost of an emergency evac should you need one.

    Now, on the other hand, what can be done about all the roads that are build right along the coast line? oh well, thats for another time.

    • weka 12.1

      Slips are going to be one of NZ’s biggest issues. Not just coastline roads, but inland roads that will be unusable with big rain events, or quakes. I see a time coming when we can’t afford to repair them. Fuck National and their idiotic prioritising of resources.

      • greywarshark 12.1.1

        Thank goodness for horses. The darling animals will be back in our hearts again.
        Instead of washing the car in the weekend, it will down to the paddock, climb on a box and brush down the nag.

  13. exkiwiforces 13

    Those poor folks at Matata seem to be on a bit of a hiding ATM. I was reading a about this wee town some mths ago about the ongoing earthquakes in that neck of the woods and boffins were starting to think there maybe a hot-spot developing under or near Matata.

    • weka 13.1

      Is it near Edgecumbe? (I don’t know the NI very well).

      • Macro 13.1.1

        Its about 10km away (in a straight line) or a 15 min drive down the road. So yeah its near Edgecumbe.

      • exkiwiforces 13.1.2

        Sorry if I have confuse you, I was using the map as a reference as it jog my memory on the article that I seen and if my memory serve’s me it also in a the Taupo rift zone. Its a lovely area to visit BTW, but that was back in the 90’s.

        • weka 13.1.2.1

          all good, I was just wondering if it was related to the Edgecumbe quakes.

          • exkiwiforces 13.1.2.1.1

            It didn’t say, but if Matata is in the Taupo rift zone which I think it is, then they are going to have a few problems in the future. In a rift zone what usually happens when the earths crusts stretches was causes the subsidence in the earth crust and if that’s the case, and then you throw in climate change ie rising sea levels then you are going to have problems down the track. If you look at any topo map you would see a lot drainage canals which means they are likely to a high water table and some places are former swamps aka the easting parts of Christchurch. Its a interesting place Geo Tech wise and interesting place to do Tactical Exercise With Troops (TEWT’s).

  14. greg 14

    you wouldn’t want to own coastal property anywhere these days worthless in the era of climate change

  15. JustPassingThrough 15

    And we think we have it bad in Auckland …

  16. Ray 16

    Meanwhile, …

    Back at the ranch and 30 km along the coast is the proposed Te Tumu development at the Kaituna River cut, including marinas, hospitals, medium density housing all on coastal frontal sand dunes;

    https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiojdzTtJ7VAhXBErwKHROxC-gQFgguMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lowerkaituna.co.nz%2Fuploads%2FTeTumuSG_presentationMar15.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHtyUw8Y3rLb3wZB6MEjxZdHG8upQ

    The recent funding announcement from National explicitly mentioned the Te Tumu development.

    Ray

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    The Government has released new guidance to support stronger links between New Zealand’s climate change goals, and local and regional planning. From today, it has become a legal requirement for local governments to consider the Government’s National Adaptation Plan and Emissions Reduction Plan when preparing or changing regional policy statements, ...
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  • World-first bedside blood test good for people, good for health system
    A single blood test that can diagnose heart attacks in minutes instead of hours, saving the health system millions of dollars and getting patients treated faster, is being rolled out in New Zealand hospitals, says Health Minister Andrew Little. “This research, led by emergency doctors at Christchurch Hospital, is ground-breaking,” ...
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    2 hours ago
  • New rongoā workstream announced alongside Therapeutic Products Bill
    A new workstream has been established within government to consider how rongoā might be protected in legislation. This comes as the Therapeutic Products Bill is introduced in Parliament today, Associate Minister for Health (Māori) Hon Peeni Henare said. “Under Te Tiriti o Waitangi, the Crown has an obligation to actively ...
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  • Therapeutic Products Bill introduced
    Legislation to modernise the way medicines, medical devices and natural health products are regulated has been introduced in Parliament today. The Therapeutic Products Bill replaces the Medicines Act 1981 and Dietary Supplements Regulations 1985 with a comprehensive regulatory regime that is fit for the future. Health Minister Andrew Little said ...
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  • New Climate Action Centre to support farmers maintain international edge
    New Climate Action Centre launched to support farmers reduce ag emissions through R&D investment 50:50 joint venture between Government and agribusiness to accelerate product development First Centre projects launched to get farmers the emissions reducing tools sooner Indicative funding commitment rising to $35 million per year by Joint venture partners, ...
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  • Progress on firearms register and safety authority
    The launch today of a new firearms regulator to ensure the legitimate possession and use of firearms, and an online portal to apply for licences, marks a significant step towards modernisation and improvements in gun safety, Police Minister Chris Hipkins says.     Police is moving from being an administrator of ...
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  • Government sets out next steps for on-farm sequestration strategy
    Government to work with primary sector on developing a sequestration strategy Government confirms today it will bring all scientifically robust forms of sequestration into the Emissions Trading Scheme, starting from 2025. This will be done at full value, rather than at a discount, so farmers can realise the true potential ...
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  • Prime Minister concludes bilateral talks with Finnish PM
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin have concluded their first in person bilateral meeting in Auckland this morning. The Prime Ministers reiterated how their respective countries shared similar values and reflected on ways to further strengthen the relationship between New Zealand and Finland. “New Zealand and Finland ...
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  • Plan to boost value & lift sustainability of NZ forestry sector
    Sector ITP to grow domestic processing and low-carbon wood products Grow the wood processing sector by 3.5 million cubic metres (25%) by 2030 Grow export earnings from value-added wood products by $600 million by 2040 Increase the use of domestic timber in construction by 25% by 2030 The Forestry and ...
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  • Government supports more energy-saving projects to help more Kiwis save money
    17 community energy-saving education projects share $1.7 million Builds on success of previous Government projects that have supported more than 13,000 households and 440 energy education events with more than 80,000 LEDs distributed Helping households to reduce their energy bills and make their homes warmer and more energy-efficient, is the ...
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  • Govt funds new 80-bed mental health unit for Canterbury
    The Government has granted final approval for a new 80-bed acute mental health facility at the Hillmorton Hospital campus, Health Minister Andrew Little says. “This is the second stage of Hillmorton’s major infrastructure redevelopment programme and is one of the largest investments ever made in New Zealand’s mental health infrastructure ...
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    10 hours ago
  • Māori education momentum rolls on with new wharekura
    A new Year 1-13 wharekura will extend Māori Medium Education into Porirua West from 2027, Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. “The establishment of Te Kākā Kura o Ngāti Toa Rangatira will over time provide a local option for up to 200 tamariki and rangatahi on the western side ...
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  • Easing administrative burden on farmers through new integrated farm planning projects
    37 new investments to simplify planning and reduce paperwork for farmers and growers Targeted projects for Northland, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Taranaki, Gisborne, Hawke’s Bay, Manawatū-Whanganui, West Coast, Canterbury, and Otago Resources, a digital wallet and template tools to help farmers develop and integrate their farm planning. The Government is ...
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  • New Commerce Commission Chair appointed
    Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Dr David Clark has today announced the appointment of Dr John Small as the new Chair of the Commerce Commission. “Dr Small has made a valuable contribution to a broad range of the Commission’s work in his roles as associate member and member, which he ...
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  • Realising housing dreams for the Kāpiti Coast
    Much needed public housing is on the way for the Kāpiti Coast thanks to the Government’s purchase of a large vacant plot of land at 59-69 Raumati Road in Raumati Beach. “This purchase will ultimately mean more families have a place to call home and demonstrates our commitment to resolving ...
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  • Decarbonisation industry milestone reached in Timaru
    A pioneering boiler conversion project is now up and ready to go, using woodchips to make potato chips, while slashing emissions. “McCain’s newly converted coal boiler will reduce CO2 emissions at its Timaru factory by 95% and is an excellent example of the great climate gains we can achieve through ...
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  • Fiftieth Anniversary of Diplomatic Relations With China
    Chinese Embassy Reception Te Papa, Wellington   Tēnā koutou katoa, Da jia hao Let me first acknowledge Ambassador Wang Xiaolong, thank you for the invitation this evening, it is a pleasure to be here. I would also like to acknowledge current and former Parliamentary colleagues, as well as members of ...
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  • Govt keeps AM on the air in Northland
    Minister of Broadcasting and Media Willie Jackson and Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty today announced a $1.48 million package to fund the repair and replacement of three transmission masts in Northland to ensure AM radio can stay on air in the region. “This funding will secure the reinstatement of ...
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  • Multi million dollar package to tackle retail crime and reoffending
    A multi million dollar package to tackle retail crime and reoffending is the most significant crime prevention financial package in recent memory  New fog cannon subsidy scheme set up. Government to provide $4000 for all small shops and dairies in New Zealand who want a fog cannon installed, with shops ...
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  • Funding boost to support NZ’s game development industry
    New Zealand’s game developers will receive an immediate funding boost to help support the growth of local studios beyond the current Dunedin centre. “New Zealand’s game development sector has been rapidly growing. The latest data from the New Zealand Game Developers Association shows the total revenue for the industry is ...
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  • A new strategy for Pacific housing
    New and existing housing initiatives are being brought together to improve home ownership for Pacific people said Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio. Fale mo Aiga: Pacific Housing Strategy and Action Plan 2030, launched today, is the Government’s targeted response to the housing challenges faced by Pacific Aotearoa. Minister ...
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  • Government takes action on pay parity for healthcare workers
    Thousands of frontline community health workers – including nurses in aged-care facilities - are in for a pay rise as the Labour Government takes action on pay parity in the health sector. “I’m pleased to announce that Cabinet has agreed to on-going funding of $200 million a year so that ...
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  • World’s first algae-based local anaesthetic another step closer to reality
    A partnership between the Government and the Cawthron Institute has delivered a breakthrough in the production of a potent microalgal ingredient for the world’s first algae-based pain medication, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced.  “Scientists at Cawthron Institute in Nelson have developed a reliable and commercially scalable method for producing neosaxitoxin, ...
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    4 days ago
  • Ngāti Mutunga o Wharekauri and the Crown sign Agreement in Principle| Ka waitohu a Ngāti Mutunga o...
    Ngāti Mutunga o Wharekauri and the Crown have signed an Agreement in Principle marking a significant milestone towards the settlement of their historical Treaty of Waitangi claims. Ngāti Mutunga are based on Wharekauri/Chatham Islands and are the second of two iwi/imi to reach agreement with the Crown. “Today’s signing follows ...
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  • Further ACC reforms introduced to Parliament
    New reporting requirements on access to ACC Earlier access to minimum rate of compensation Refinement to ACC purpose to focus on supporting all eligible injured people to access ACC The Accident Compensation (Access Reporting and Other Matters) Amendment Bill which aims to improve access to ACC for all injured people, ...
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  • Government supports Chatham Islands' resilience
    The Government is supporting the Chatham Islands’ resilience to extreme weather events and natural hazards through a grant to secure safe drinking water, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty said. “Many households in the Chatham Islands lack easy access to drinking water and have been forced to get water to ...
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  • New Chief Coroner appointed
    Coroner Anna Tutton has been appointed as the new Chief Coroner, Attorney-General David Parker announced today. Anna Tutton was appointed as a Coroner in January 2015, based in Christchurch, and as Deputy Chief Coroner in 2020.  After the previous Chief Coroner, Judge Deborah Marshall, retired Ms Tutton took on the ...
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  • DIRA Amendment Bill passes third reading
    The Government has passed an Amendment Bill today to support Fonterra’s move to a new capital structure and the continued success of New Zealand’s dairy industry. The Dairy Industry Restructuring (Fonterra Capital Restructuring) Amendment Bill will allow the Fonterra co-operative to make changes to its capital structure, as well as ...
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  • Minister Whaitiri to attend Food Ministers’ Meeting with Australian counterparts
    Minister for Food Safety Meka Whaitiri will attend the Fourth Australia and New Zealand Food Ministers’ Meeting in Melbourne on Friday. It will be the first time the meeting has been held in person since the Covid-19 pandemic disrupted international travel. “The Food Ministers’ Meeting sets the policy direction for ...
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  • New Kiwibank parent appoints directors
    David McLean and Sir Brian Roche have been appointed as the first two directors of the newly incorporated Kiwi Group Capital Limited (KCG), the parent company of Kiwibank. In August, the Government acquired 100 percent of Kiwi Group Holdings, which also operates New Zealand Home Loans, from NZ Post, ACC ...
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  • Defence Ministers meet in Cambodia
    Minister of Defence Peeni Henare attended the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Defence Ministers’ Meeting-Plus (ADMM-Plus) in Siem Reap, Cambodia. “The first face to face meeting of the ADMM-Plus members is an opportunity for me to highlight New Zealand’s position on key regional security matters,” Peeni Henare said.  “In ...
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  • Pay equity extended to thousands more social workers
    The Government will extend pay equity to all community and iwi organisations who employ social workers and receive funding from the Crown, Minister for Women Jan Tinetti announced today. We expect this will improve the lives of approximately 4,600 social workers. “This extension means thousands more social workers will be ...
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  • Taskforce set up to protect construction industry from product shortages & delays
    New ‘Critical Materials Taskforce’ will trouble shoot building materials shortages Focus on maximising productivity & cushioning businesses from supply chain risks Successful ‘Plasterboard Taskforce’ reshaped to include broader sector knowledge and expertise Will provide guidance, data and information to support builders, designers and business owners A new Critical Materials Taskforce ...
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  • Bigger ED, more theatres and more beds in new Whangārei Hospital
    A new emergency department with three times more space will be part of the first stage of a two-stage project to build a new hospital for Whangārei and Northland. The Government has today confirmed funding for stage one of the new hospital – an acute services building and a child-health ...
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  • Finnish PM to visit New Zealand
    Finland’s Prime Minister Sanna Marin, accompanied by Minister for Development Cooperation and Foreign Trade Ville Skinnari and a business delegation will visit New Zealand next week, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. The two leaders will meet in Auckland. “New Zealand and Finland are natural partners. We share similar approaches ...
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  • New recreational rules to support hāpuku and bass fisheries
    The daily limits on recreationally caught hāpuku (also known as groper) and bass will be lowered to a total of two per person in some areas, with a new accumulation limit of three per person on multi-day trips. Oceans and Fisheries Minister, David Parker said the rule changes would take ...
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  • Jobs for Nature enabling Mātāuranga Māori
    Mātāuranga Māori is at the heart of the latest tranche of Jobs for Nature projects set to promote biodiversity and reduce impacts of climate change on Māori land, Minister of Conservation Poto Williams says. Project work will include the creation of an ecological corridor in Tairāwhiti, protecting 60 hectares of ...
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  • Supporting resilient shipping infrastructure in Vanuatu
    The Government has announced further support to Vanuatu to assist in constructing climate-resilient wharves as part of the Vanuatu Inter-Island Shipping Support Project (VISSP). “Aotearoa New Zealand is committed to supporting the economic recovery of our Pacific region in a way that continues to provide growth and supports climate resilience,” ...
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  • Government welcomes High Court ruling on climate case
    The High Court has today confirmed the legality of the advice provided by the Climate Change Commission (the Commision) to inform New Zealand’s nationally determined contribution (NDC) and the first three emissions budgets.  Minister of Climate Change James Shaw says New Zealanders can have confidence in the Commission and of ...
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  • Government introduces changes to mining Act with stronger environmental focus
    ·         Crown Minerals Act will no longer actively “promote” prospecting, exploration, and mining of Crown-owned minerals ·         Will create more certainty around engagement between industry, iwi and hapū. The Government is proposing changes to modernise the Crown Minerals Act 1991 (CMA) to support more environmentally conscious management of resources, says ...
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