Well that pretty much blows Tim clean out of the water. Everything, I mean everything he said was untrue or deceitful. And it makes the Herald look like sleazy lying little grubs.
I can understand Farrar and tyhe likes doing political campaigning on the issue. But the Herald and Tim? They owe us apologies.
The ad is legal because it states his name and residential address along with his opinion. No restriction on free speech under the electoral finance act….
all_your_base
Is it because you are anonymous that you offer no opinion, only a .jpg authorised by somebody else?
Nice one burt . The lefty’s just keep digging a bigger hole for that Liarbour coffin . When lefty’s start turning on each other, as in this case, some would argue that a mutiny has occurred or a division in the socialist ranks .Without solidarity and direction I can rightfully predict that the party is rapidly heading down the political plug hole and all I can say to that is ; good riddance to bad karma.
For anybody to say they are “pro labour ” is beyond belief, because it is a fact that these people are pro corruption .
Labour are criminals and many of them should be in prison .
Good to see someone taking that fool Shadbolt to task for his ridiculous hysterics. Good to see you righties falling for his appalling spin – you lot really are a bunch of suckers.
This shows just how partisan the New Zealand news media is – the fact that the truth about Shadbolt’s bullshit was not investigated by ANY of the newsmedia shows just what a joke they are.
Shadbolt’s the class clown – we should expect this sort of crap from him. The newsmedia should have done some investigation into this rather than swallow Tim’s rhetoric hook, line and sinker.
I think, Insider, that you’ll find the media is not partisan but that it is inept and lazy and that there are structural reasons for that (such as the fact most newsrooms in NZ are driven by profits and the fact that journos are paid very little – the average “communications advisor” gets roughly twice as much as a similarly skilled and experienced journo: why would anyone competent stick around?). Witness the lack of news at the moment (and every silly season) – partly it’s because things are a little quiet but also it’s because the nation’s spindoctors are on holiday.
I’ve been waiting for someone to check out what the hell Shadbolt was saying. It’s incredible that a concerned citizen has to do the research, although a fantastic use of free speech.
Newspapers and TV , WHY AREN’T YOU FACT CHECKING!!!!!!!!!!! ??????
“Andy Moore
Danna, from what you have said, your mother abused you – this is obviously not ok, – a smack applied to a child’s hand or bottom by a loving parent however, is a different thing – and acceptable – http://www.politik.co.nz has march information plus more.”
Do a DNS lookup on http://www.politiks.co.nz – an extremist Christian anti-section 59 website – and lo, its registered in Christchurch (home of Andrew Moore, Christian libertarian)
Sorry to stray off topic, but can you please go on record and tell us if anyone from ‘The standard’ are getting paid or otherwise remunerated to blog? It would be very helpful as there is a lot of speculation right now.
fairfax owned our free speech a long time ago. Murdoch influenced an Aussie election and his type are out to do the same in NZ. A freely thought out vote – what a joke, when we have to rely on far right conservative Nationalowned newspapers and now the Listener to give us objective information for election 2008
Sorry to stray off topic, but can you please go on record and tell us if anyone from ‘The standard’ are getting paid or otherwise remunerated to blog?
Phillp R, as I recall it’s been made quite clear by the site owners that no one here is being paid to blog. The fact blogging duties are shared out among half a dozen or so different people would tend to confirm that.
There’s only one paid blogger in NZ that I know of – his name’s David Farrar and he’s employed at National Party HQ.
Santi, that’s crap and you either know it or are simply too young to have any meaningful knowledge about politics or Hard News. Russell’s clear about his politics but unlike Farrar he is actually a journalist who isn’t dependent upon any political party for his career. You might not agree with him, but he’s no apparachik.
Lucky for Russell that its just the lefties that attack the messenger rather than try to debate the issues (just go to Kiwiblog if you don’t believe me, they said it so it must be true).
Russell Brown is a sell my soul to the highest bidder socialist coward.
I have no doubts that many bloggers on this site are well paid .
Andy Moore is a personal friend of mine and if want a fight please give me a call, as I am only too happy to accommodate any concerns or frustration’s you might have .You all know my details as my blog is often overwhelmed with your cowardly venomous bile. You jellyfish creeps should get a real job .
One last word to the pathetic disgrace to manhood Russell Brown – owner of the Paris Hilton blog theatre . Are you still sacred and frightened of me ?
DPF is not on the Nat payroll to blog… he’s a blogger who happens to also have a job. Much the same, I suspect, a great deal of the members of thestandard.org.
“DPF is not on the Nat payroll to blog. he’s a blogger who happens to also have a job.” A job with the National Party of New Zealand. Just thought I’d mention that bit.
Everyone is frightened of you and for you. You possess a hatred that seems to know no bounds. Why don’t you use your short time on this planet to help people understand you and not constantly seek to intimidate people.By the way never assume you are the only person who has heavy shit to deal with. Do what that Jesus guy suggested for once.
What a bummer that the Nats have come out and disowned the rabid, motley bunch of anti-EFA melcontents. That’s the smartest piece of politics from any side of the past few years.
I’d hoped that they would have been all vocal togther for once the public is made aware of the connected dots of D4J, Whale Oil, Andy Moore and the like and the nature of their vitriolic rantings it will kill any supposed groundswell of support for the right.
The public at large has no idea of how fucked up this rent a mob are. If they are considered to be the voice of the right then ta ta come election time.
No wonder National are distancing themselves for the likes of D4J and Whale Oil can only lose the election for them, not help win it. They are major liabilities despite what their egos tell them.
It will be a right laugh however, if any financial, administrative or strategic lkink is outed between National and any “third party” such as the Hortons. Having now taken the holier than thou position it will kill them once any duplicity is discovered. There is no going back – the rod for the Nat backbone of jelly has just been created.
There is no hyperlink from your name to a blog, I’ll assume that you don’t have one, or that it’s not related to politics and you therefore choose to keep it seperate. So, there’s a difference between someone who chooses to comment in their idle (or not-so idle đ ) time at work, and someone who is in the employ of the National party and clearly devotes a great deal of their time to writing a staunchly pro-National blog.
Your Government Department may not be aware of your blogging, do you think you can say the same for National and Kiwiblog? I think not; it’s disingenuous to suggest a parallel between your commenting, and DPF’s blogging and the commenting he does upon his blog throughout the day.
I’ll accept it was a tenuous link, but I think the point remains relevant.
Does DPF still have that market research business on the side?
Do you think his other clients know about Kiwiblog?
Do you think DPF is, therefore, writing “staunchly pro-client” blogs?
Alternatively, what of those bloggers who also work for the Greens or the Labour Party? Surely there must be a few, and are we to tarr them all with the same biased brush?
“That allows him up to 10 significant posts a day. It’s a good job for some eh.”
Well, he owns the business, he does a lot of his writing early in the morning and times it for release throughout the day. Not only that, he has been blogging for a long time, and comes from newsgroups before that. Its called experience.
“Does DPF still have that market research business on the side?
Do you think his other clients know about Kiwiblog?
Do you think DPF is, therefore, writing “staunchly pro-client” blogs? ”
Given that his blog posts aren’t necssarily related to his Curia clients, I couldn’t say. If he, for example, did volunteer work for the Red Cross I wouldn’t be trying to string a link between them, as there woundn’t be one.
I’m not saying he is a paid blogger per se, (I disagree with that comment for lack of evidence) but that there is a strong link between National party and Farrar, and the National party and the content of his blog; this much is clear.
I can’t think of any other such prolific blogger who is strongly aligned with a political party, but then I haven’t specifically gone out looking or taken an interest. If there are those out there, I would expect them to be strongly representative of the party of which they are a member – you wouldn’t write a political blog that was ideologically opposed to a party you had voluntarily joined!
Going back to your original comment – it’s up to the readers to infer (if they choose to take an interest) to what extent Farrar’s blog is aligned with the National party. I can only say it’s natural to assume there is a strong link given the content, Farrar’s background and current employment.
MP- it’s also worth noting the fact that Farrar’s spin is almost always exactly the same as the party’s. As someone who’s worked inside the party for more than a decade Farrar understands that the key in this game isn’t good analysis, it’s being able to stay on message with the party and repeat the same partisan lines relentlessly – and he does that very well. That’s why I don’t take Farrar seriously. His employment is just the kicker.
“he does a lot of his writing early in the morning and times it for release throughout the day”
wow, you seem to know a lot about it. How many DPF’S are there? I’m sure he posts and writes during the day.
Funnily enough I’m starting to think he fattens up his threads with
various versions of himself. There’s angry conservative businessman, nice “anti socialist” mum, and “i use to vote labour but not anymore” guy . DPF, what a writer.
“there is a strong link between National party and Farrar, and the National party and the content of his blog; this much is clear”
Mmmm lets see. In the past DPF has openly disagreed with National policy. Not just MP misbehaviour, not just statements in the house. POLICY.
Has The Standard?
In the past DPF has complimented the Labour party on its actions and policy.
Will The Standard ever compliment National for anything? The evidence so far doesnt seem to indicate so.
You KNOW who DPF is, you know his background. We dont know anything about the people behind The Standard. And a declaration of independence from someone that remains anonymous doesnt mean too much.
Daveo – I know what you mean but here everything gets taken very literally so I meant that as it’s not his specific contracted job to write kiwiblog, as far as I understand it. Although in truth I don’t know what he does for the Party over and above what is mentioned on his blog. I don’t need to đ
I agree with your latest though, that’s what I meant by ‘there is a strong link between … the National party and the content of his blog‘.
yeh, Kimble , DPF occasionally has a go when National isn’t as right wing as he’d like. It’s hardly the spotlight he torches Labour with.
and obviously Kimble you write to the herald complaining about their anonymous editorials.
Most right wing commentators openly use their ‘freemarket” beliefblogs in coordination with their commerce so using their name actually is of benefit to them. It is difficult to question business practise in this blog country without being presented as a anti-capitalist socialist/communist/ fascist. It’s intimidating and detracts from the message. The abuse is too much. Many of us have very important ties to the infrastructure of business and are very strategic with them.
This channel doesn’t actually require names, it requires rational progresive ideas and debate. That’s why it’s revolutionary.
“Will The Standard ever compliment National for anything? The evidence so far doesnt seem to indicate so.”
Well, if the National Party actually ever does anything commendable I’ll certainly commend them for it. I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for them to do so though.
I’m just pleased National has distanced itself from these mouth-foamers. Really they are the party’s achilles heel. I hate to think what embarrassing thing these people are going to do next.
Probably most here hope they will continue in the same vein đ
The ‘public at large’ is listening right now and will be happy to circulate any new information about D4J, Whaleoil and the like.
Matthew Pilott
From some of the users’ abusive attitudes and given that some of them are in a position to influence any one of our lives I would strongly dissuade anyone from giving their full name.
But what really amazes me is that these are the very people who are screaming out that free speech will disappear and yet they’re trying to take away mine and anyone else’s voice that disagrees with them.
Really it doesn’t make much difference to me who wins this year. Politics doesn’t affect my everyday life, but I enjoy being involved in it – you meet interesting people :-).
Nothing much is going to change if the Nats win – I just think it’s time for someone else to buy the beer – same in the US.
Don’t play victim and make false statements, Jum. Nobody is curtailing your freedom of speech. Quite the contrary.
So why have the anonymous bloggers of the standard stopped blogging about NZ politics, surely not because they would need to provide their full names and residential addresses if they want to express their political opinions…. must be some other reason… either that or the rancid EFB has completely shut them down.
I guess we will know once they resume their anti John Key and anti National party banter. I’m waiting….
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Hey standard anon blog authors – Don’t vote Labour… what have you got to say about that?
From some of the users’ abusive attitudes and given that some of them are in a position to influence any one of our lives I would strongly dissuade anyone from giving their full name.
Precisely. Apart from the obvious fact that people might have very valid reasons why they feel freer to comment if they don’t have to use their real name, there are people on the right who are so damn creepy and abusive you’d have to fear for your safety if they had your full name and address.
So why have the anonymous bloggers of the standard stopped blogging about NZ politics
Possibly because most of then are still on holiday? Just a hunch…
Burt you drunken old prick. I see you’re still not taking your ritalin and you’re still obsessed with bolding random statements. Now, while you’re mouthing Farrar’s lamentably ignorant dog-whistle talking points about anonymity you may wish to consider this: you post anonymously. If you want to bitch and whine about others failing to use their real names then you might want to lead by example. Or alternatively I could find out who you are (I’m getting pretty good at this) and let folk know. Whaddya say Burt? I was hoping you’d’ve asked santa for a bit of self-reflexivity this xmas but it seem we’re gonna have to face another year of your yapping.
I’ve heard DPF mention that he sets up a lot of posts to time-release, so they don’t all pile on to the site at once.
Yeah I saw DPF claiming that as well so I had a look and as far as I can tell there is no facility in wordpress (or plug-in for it) that allows this to be done. I personally doubt that the Nats would use Farrar for polling because he’s simply too stupid to do it properly. There is no way any major party would entrust the gathering of its raw data to him. In my honest opinion he is getting paid to blog via his “Curia contract”. I mean have you seen the curia website? It’s barely a place holder and I’ve not seen him advertise anywhere – that’s because he doesn’t need to. It’s also why he’s responded so badly to the standard and blogblog – his blogging is his bread and butter, it pays his mortgage. The more he’s shown up the more likely the party is to drop him. Here’s to a bloody and vicious 2008…
“Or I could find out who you are (I’m getting pretty good at this)..”
Really Robinson? I didn’t know that to your eloquence and fine writing abilities, you also add the hound-dog touch.
You’d have done well in Germany of the 30’s.
Hey robinsod – you are a abusive wee #### aren’t you . Wonder if your so lippy man to man ? I would love to find out one day ,and j you are that pathetic I know why I call this site the sub standard sewer .
Hey robinsod and you twisted lefty nutbars – Go #### yourselves – you scum of the earth . Russell Brown like you foaming dogs are pure communist filth . You’re selfish gravy train of government funds makes you deluded righteous creeps and in reality you are just up yourself pricks who are going down this time .
Yes I post anonymously and I post about political issues. It was legal last year – is it legal this year ? What changed Robinsod? Oh that’s right some self serving pricks passed some laws that shut down free speech…..
Or alternatively I could find out who you are (I’m getting pretty good at this) and let folk know..
Waaaa hooo – an anonymous blogger threatening to out another anonymous blogger… Such is life under the EFB I guess, unable to debate the issues the highly pissed off anonymous bloggers start to turn on each other and shooting the messenger is all that remains when the message is off limits….
How about we meet for a beer one night and lets see if you still have the balls to call me a drunken old prick ?
Are you threatening me Burt? I mean, I don’t mind if you are but at least have the guts to say it outright rather than hiding behind the old “meet for a beer” line you coward.
Oh and Burt? Of course it’s legal to write about politics on a blog. Only a fool would think otherwise…
I’m not threatening you at all Robinsod – are you paranoid? It’s simple – if you are obsessing about who I really are then it would be much easier if we meet face to face. If you out me it only proves that what you think is OK for you is not OK for me – which is to be expected from a do as I say not as I do Labour supporter.
If it’s legal to write about politics on a multiple anonymous author blog then why have the authors here at the standard stopped doing it since the EFB passed.
Whaleoil (I know you don’t take anything he says seriously – but he can’t be wrong 100% of the time) seems to think that multiple anonymous author blogs are captured by the EFB – If he correct then this certainly explains why the standard have suddenly stopped posting about NZ political issues.
“Only a fool would think otherwise.” – Time will tell Robinsod – if the authors here at the standard get back to their previous form somebody might just want to take it as a test case. Very embarrassing for the standard having defended the EFB if it’s shut them down.
OK Burt – use the old trick of making a veiled threat and then backing out of it if you want but that just shows everyone here what a total coward you are. I’m sure the standard would welcome a test case but let’s face it anything that retarded chimp Whale comes out with is 99% likely to be wrong so I can’t see it happening in the near future.
As far as outing you goes Burt – I have no intention of doing so (though I’ve been doing ok since I was outed by the aforementioned chimp). Oh and Burt? There’s no way you could do as I do – you lack the basic intelligence to even approach what I do.
use the old trick of making a veiled threat and then backing out of it if you want but that just shows everyone here what a total coward you are.
That after: “Or alternatively I could find out who you are (I’m getting pretty good at this) and let folk know..” followed by “As far as outing you goes Burt – I have no intention of doing so”.
Pots and kettles…. Guess you realised what a hypocrite you were posing anonymously threatening to out other anonymous posters.
Oh and Burt? There’s no way you could do as I do – you lack the basic intelligence to even approach what I do.
I do agree I’d need to work pretty hard to make as much of a fool of myself as you just did – but I think it was a lack of intelligence that you didn’t notice you were doing exactly what you were incorrectly denigrating me for doing.
Keep it Robinsod, the short bus will be along shortly to take you to remedial reasoning classes.
I always thought the sub standard ward must have a resident psychiatrist .It is very useful to have a Sigmund loop doctor close by . I’ve got one and she is called my shadow . Cool I can handle that and I hope you don’t stock no hinamanu psychotic wind up drugs in this unit over here? Because I just got a month sin bin over at kiwiblog for threating to punch the ####’# lights out .
Sod that wasn’t bad wit and satire and it is great to see you and burt going for it hammering and tongs . Must go pills to take, another zombie day in Helengrad . Cheers big ears .
If it’s legal to write about politics on a multiple anonymous author blog then why have the authors here at the standard stopped doing it since the EFB passed.
Whaleoil (I know you don’t take anything he says seriously – but he can’t be wrong 100% of the time) seems to think that multiple anonymous author blogs are captured by the EFB – If he correct then this certainly explains why the standard have suddenly stopped posting about NZ political issues.
“Only a fool would think otherwise.” – Time will tell Robinsod – if the authors here at the standard get back to their previous form somebody might just want to take it as a test case. Very embarrassing for the standard having defended the EFB if it’s shut them down.
Burt you don’t understand the EFB, and nor does Whale. Blogs are exempt, in fact specifically so.
And the reason we weren’t posting was because we were on holiday. Some of us still are. Hmmm, when you look back that’s kind of an embarrassing diatribe you’ve got there, eh?
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Henry Kissinger is finally dead. Good fucking riddance. While Americans loved him, he was a war criminal, responsible for most of the atrocities of the final quarter of the twentieth century. Cambodia. Bangladesh. Chile. East Timor. All Kissinger. Because of these crimes, Americans revere him as a "statesman" (which says ...
Buzz from the Beehive Yes, ministers in the new government are delivering speeches and releasing press statements. But the message on the governmentâs official website was the same as it has been for the past several days, when Point of Order went looking for news from the Beehive that had ...
David Farrar writes – 1 News reports: Christopher Luxon says he was told by some Kiwis on the campaign trail they âdidn’t knowâ the difference between Waka Kotahi, Te PĆ«kenga and Te Whatu Ora. Speaking to Breakfast, the incoming prime minister said having English first on government agencies will âmake sureâ ...
There are fears that mooted changes to building consent liability could end up driving the building industry into an uninsured hole. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Here’s my pick of the top 10 news and analysis links elsewhere as of 10 am on Thursday, November 30, including:The new Government’s ...
Well that didnât last long, did it? Mere days after taking on what he called the âawesome responsibilityâ of being Prime Minister, M Christopher Luxon has started blaming everyone else, and complaining that he has inherited âeconomic vandalism on an unprecedented scaleâ – which is how most of us are ...
The first I knew of the news about Tory Whanau was when a tweet came up in my feed.The sort of tweet that makes you question humanity, or at least why you bother with Twitter. Which is increasingly a cesspit of vile inhabitants who lurk spreading negativity, hate, and every ...
Cable Cars, Gondolas, Ropeways and Aerial Trams are all names for essentially the same technology and the world’s biggest maker of them are here to sell them as an public transport solution. Stuff reports: Austrian cable car company Doppelmayr has launched its case for adding aerial cable cars to New ...
Hi,It’s been awhile since I’ve done an Ask-Me-Anything on here, so today’s the day. Ask anything you like in the comments section, and I’ll be checking in today and tomorrow to answer.Leave a commentNext week I’ll be giving away a bunch of these Mister Organ blu-rays for readers in New ...
The cost of living grind continues, and the economic and inflation honeymoon is over before it began. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR:PM Christopher Luxon unveiled his 100 day plan yesterday with an avowed focus of reducing cost-of-living pressures, but his Government’s initial moves and promises are actually elevating ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has confirmed that it will be back to the future on planning legislation. This will be just one of a number of moves which will see the new government go backwards as it repeals and cost-cuts its way into power. They will completely repeal one ...
As the new government settles into the Beehive, expectations are high that it can sort out some of the economic issues confronting  New Zealand. It may take time for some new ministers to get to grips with the range of their portfolio work and responsibilities before they can launch the changes that ...
TV3 political editor Jenna Lynch was among the corps of political reporters who bridled, when Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters told them what he thinks of them (which is not much). She was unabashed about letting her audience know she had bridled. More usefully, she drew attention to something which ...
I have a clear memory of every election since 1969 in this plucky little nation of ours. I swear I cannot recall a single one where the question being asked repeatedly in the first week of the new government was: how long do you reckon they’ll last? And that includes all ...
Whoâs At The Wheel? The electorateâs message, as aggregated in the polling booths on 14 October, turned out to be a conservative political agenda stronger than anything New Zealand has seen in five decades. In 1975, Bill Rowling was run over by just one bus, with Rob Muldoon at the wheel. In 2023, ...
The fear and loathing among legacy journalists is astonishingGraham Adams writes â No one is going to die wondering how some of the nationâs most influential journalists personally view the new National-led government. It has become abundantly clear within a few days of the coalition agreements ...
TL;DR: Here’s my pick of top 10 news links elsewhere for Wednesday November 29, including:The early return of interest deductibility for landlords could see rebates paid on previous taxes and the cost increase to $3 billion from National’s initial estimate of $2.1 billion, CTU Economist Craig Renney estimated here last ...
The day after being sworn in the new cabinet met yesterday, to enjoy their honeymoon phase. You remember, that period after a new government takes power where the country, and the media, are optimistic about them, because they haven’t had a chance to stuff anything about yet.Sadly the nuptials complete ...
Wellington Council hoardings proclaim its preparations for population growth, but around the country councils are putting things on hold in the absence of clear funding pathways for infrastructure, and despite exploding migrant numbers. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Cabinet meets in earnest today to consider the new Government’s 100-day ...
Though New Zealand First may have had ambitions to run the infrastructure portfolios, National would seem to have ended up firmly in control of them. POLITIK has obtained a private memo to members of Infrastructure NZ yesterday, which shows that the peak organisation for infrastructure sees National MPs Chris ...
On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
Whoâs At The Wheel? The electorateâs message, as aggregated in the polling booths on 14 October, turned out to be a conservative political agenda stronger than anything New Zealand has seen in five decades. In 1975, Bill Rowling was run over by just one bus, with Rob Muldoon at the wheel. In ...
Cheers to reader Deane for this quote from Breakfast TV today:Chloe Swarbrick to Brook van Velden re the coalition agreement: “... an unhinged grab-bag of hot takes from your drunk uncle at Christmas”Cheers also to actual Prime Minister of a country Christopher Luxon for dorking up his swearing-in vows.But that's enough ...
Cheers to reader Deane for this quote from Breakfast TV today:Chloe Swarbrick to Brook van Velden re the coalition agreement: “... an unhinged grab-bag of hot takes from your drunk uncle at Christmas”Cheers also to actual Prime Minister of a country Christopher Luxon for dorking up his swearing-in vows.But that's enough ...
One of the big underlying problems in our political system is the prevalence of short-term thinking, most usually seen in the periodic massive infrastructure failures at a local government level caused by them skimping on maintenance to Keep Rates Low. But the new government has given us a new example, ...
New Zealand has a chance to rise again. Under the previous government, the number of New Zealanders below the poverty line was increasing year by year. The Luxon-led government must reverse that trend – and set about stabilising the pillars of the economy. After the mismanagement of the outgoing government created  huge ...
Two articles by Karl du Fresne bring media coverage of the new government into considerations. He writes –  Tuesday, November 28, 2023The left-wing media needed a line of attack, and they found one The left-wing media pack wasted no time identifying the new governmentâs weakest point. Seething over ...
The work beginsPhilip Crump wrote this article ahead of the new government being sworn in yesterday â Later today the new National-led coalition government will be sworn in, and the hard work begins. At the core of government will be three men – each a leader ...
As everyone who watches television or is on the mailing list for any of our major stores will confirm, âBlack Fridayâ has become the longest running commercial extravaganza and celebration in our history. Although its origins are obscure (presumably dreamt up by American salesmen a few years ago), it has ...
Yesterday the Ministers in the next government were sworn in by our Governor General. A day of tradition and ceremony, of decorum and respect. Usually.But yesterday Winston Peters, the incoming Deputy Prime Minister, and Foreign Minister, of our nation used it, as he did with the signing of the coalition ...
Nicola Willis’ first move was ‘spilling the tea’ on what she called the ‘sobering’ state of the nation’s books, but she had better be able to back that up in the HYEFU. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Here’s my pick of top 10 news links elsewhere at 10 am ...
Yesterday Auckland Transport were celebrating, as the most recent Sunday was the busiest Sunday they’ve ever had. That’s a great outcome and I’m sure the ...
Nicola Willis (in blue) at the signing of the coalition agreement, before being sworn in as both Finance Minister and Social Investment Minister. National’s plan to unwind anti-smoking measures will benefit her in the first role, but how does it stack up from a social investment viewpoint? Photo: Lynn Grieveson ...
For the first time "in history" we decided to jump on the "Giving Tuesday" bandwagon in order to make you aware of the options you have to contribute to our work! Projects supported by Skeptical Science Inc. Skeptical ScienceSkeptical Science is an all-volunteer organization but ...
Let’s say it’s 1984,and there's a dreary little nation at the bottom of the Pacific whose name rhymes with New Zealand,and they've just had an election.Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, will you look at the state of these books we’ve opened,cries the incoming government, will you look at all this mountain ...
The Green Party is urging the Government to recognise its commitment to Te Tiriti o Waitangi so our tamariki and mokopuna can grow up in an Aotearoa where their language is celebrated, their health is prioritised, and their whenua is protected. ...
By scrapping Aotearoaâs world-leading smokefree laws, this government is sacrificing MÄori lives to fund tax cuts for the wealthy. Not only is this plan revolting, but it doesnât add up. Treasury has estimated that the reversal of smokefree laws to pay for tax cuts will cost our health system $5.25bn, ...
Figures showing National needs to find another $900 million for landlords highlights the mess this coalition Government is in less than a week into the job. ...
Community organisations, mana whenua and the Greens have written to the incoming Minister of Oceans and Fisheries to call for the progression without delay of the Hauraki Gulf/Tīkapa Moana Marine Protection Bill. ...
"On behalf of the Labour Party I would like to congratulate Christopher Luxon on his appointment as Prime Minister,â Labour Party Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
NZ First has gotten their wish to âtake our country backâ to the 1800s with a policy program that will white-wash Aotearoa and erase tangata whenua rights. By disestablishing the MÄori Health Authority this Government has condemned MÄori to die seven years earlier than PÄkehÄ. By removing Treaty obligations from ...
Te PÄti MÄori have called for the resignation of the Ministry of Foreign and Trade chief executive Chris Seed following his decision to erase te reo MÄori from government communications. While the country still waits for a new government to be formed, Mr Seed took it upon himself to undermine ...
The New Zealand Labour Party is urgently calling for a ceasefire in Gaza and Israel to put a halt to the appalling attacks and violence, so that a journey to a lasting peace can begin, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
A significant milestone in ratifying the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement (FTA) was reached last night, with 524 of the 705 member European Parliament voting in favour to approve the agreement. âIâm delighted to hear of the successful vote to approve the NZ-EU FTA in the European Parliament overnight. This is ...
The Government is contributing a further $5 million to support the response to urgent humanitarian needs in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel, bringing New Zealandâs total contribution to the humanitarian response so far to $10 million. âNew Zealand is deeply saddened by the loss of civilian life and the ...
Protest marches and convoys are being held around the country in response to Te PÄti Maori's call for action against the new government's policies on co-governance and the Treaty. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alice Gorman, Associate Professor in Archaeology and Space Studies, Flinders University NASA In 1963, six years after the first satellite was launched, editors from the Encyclopaedia Britannica posed a question to five eminent thinkers of the day: âHas manâs conquest ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Susan Harris Rimmer, Professor and Director of the Policy Innovation Hub, Griffith Business School, Griffith University Shutterstock 2023 has shattered climate records, accompanied by extreme weather that has left a trail of devastation and despair, according to the World Meteorological ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Cameron Webb, Clinical Associate Professor and Principal Hospital Scientist, University of Sydney Shutterstock The last two summers have been swarming with mosquitoes thanks to near constant rain and flooding brought on by La Niña. With the return of El ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Dalila Gharbaoui, Postdoctoral research fellow , University of Canterbury It has taken decades, but the complex and increasingly urgent issue of âclimate mobilityâ has gradually become central to international climate negotiations. At the COP28 summit currently taking place in Dubai, there are ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Paul Kidson, Senior Lecturer in Educational Leadership, Australian Catholic University Itâs that time of year when it seems the more school fees parents pay, the less time their children spend in school. For example, within a few kilometres of each other ...
Te PÄti MÄori MPs will give two oaths in parliament today as the business of politics resumes following Octoberâs election. The party, which has picked up six seats in the incoming parliament, has raised objections to the requirement of having to swear allegiance to the Crown. A spokesperson told the ...
A call to protest today from Te PÄti MÄori aligns with the opening of the 54th term of parliament, where MPs are required to swear an oath of allegiance to King Charles III, writes Anna Rawhiti-Connell in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoffâs morning news round-up. To receive The ...
In 2009 the then-Prime Minister John Key declared war on methamphetamine with a plan to ban over the counter sales of cold and flu drugs containing pseudoephedrine. Those were the days when ram raids and armed hold-ups were aimed at chemist shops, the perpetrators looking for the main ingredient ...
From old scores to blank canvas, a survey of the most puzzling parts in the NZ First and Act deals with National.Across 28 pages, the two documents born out of several weeks of inter-party negotiations chart the path ahead for the first term of the three-way coalition made up ...
In the first instalment of a two-part series on miscarriage, Zahra Shahtahmasebi speaks to two women about carrying on after tragedy. Michele Trott is a âlive life to the fullestâ kind of person, a lover of the outdoors and martial arts. Sheâs active and energetic, but after her third miscarriage ...
Know you should be across whatâs going on at the global climate conference but daunted by the prospect of a two-week talk-fest? Laura Gemmell, whoâs on the ground in Dubai, has picked out five areas itâs worth keeping tabs on. The 28th Conference of the Parties (Cop28) is under way ...
Opinion: Section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act 1989 was introduced in 2019 by Labour in response to the infamous Hawkes Bay uplift earlier that year, that laid bare what child protection looked like for an unknowing Aotearoa New Zealand public. Iwi and child advocates have expressed strong concern ...
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Unfunded policies and commercially sensitive fiscal risks that weren’t included in the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update total billions of dollars over the next four years, Finance Minister Nicola Willis said on Monday. Within a day of being sworn in, Willis warned that the state of the Government’s books ...
I donât mean to defame the guy because I liked him. He was imperfect, for certain. Some people found him awful and Iâm not here to be his apologist either. I could use a pseudonym like Nill Boble, but context would reveal who I mean: Bill. He ran the ...
Sultan Al-Jaber, the Emirati president of the COP28 climate negotiations, attempted yesterday to allay fears he didnât believe some of the key science of climate change. These were triggered by a recording of comments he made in a recent testy comments to Mary Robinson, a former President of ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says he will provide an update on New Zealand's stance on a global renewables pledge when he lands in Dubai at the end of the week. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrew King, Senior Lecturer in Climate Science, The University of Melbourne Shutterstock After three La Niña summers many of us would have been expecting much hotter and drier conditions this spring and summer after the arrival of El Niño. Instead, ...
Nicola Willis has accused the previous government of finding "workarounds" to hide funding shortfalls. Grant Robertson says it shows she hasn't even read the Budget. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clas Weber, Senior lecturer, The University of Western Australia Shutterstock Imagine brain scanning technology improves greatly in the coming decades, to the point that we can observe how each individual neuron talks to other neurons. Then, imagine we can record ...
Leaked government documents confirm this government will consciously do serious harm to the lives of working people and their whÄnau. âOur lowest paid people deserve a pay increase, not a government that is deliberately deciding to put the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kathryn Bowen, Professor – Environment, Climate and Global Health at Melbourne Climate Futures and Melbourne School of Population and Global Health, University of Melbourne, The University of Melbourne Pakistan experienced severe floods in 2022.Asianet-Pakistan/Shutterstock As global leaders gather in Dubai for ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Leah Mercer, Associate Professor of Theatre Arts, Curtin University Aaron Claringbold/PICA At the End of the Land, a world premiere production by Western Australian interdisciplinary theatre makers Too Close to the Sun, is an experiential encounter with the liminal space ...
The new prime minister says he intends to visit the Waitangi Treaty Grounds for next yearâs annual commemorations. Christopher Luxon said no decisions have been firmly made yet, but he believed it was âimportantâ to attend. âI think the reality for me is weâre going to be a government delivering ...
The governmentâs âmini-budgetâ will be released on December 20, coinciding with the release of Treasuryâs half year economic update. Finance minister Nicola Willis, joining the prime minister at this afternoonâs post-cabinet press conference, said this budget will outline a number of âspecific stepsâ the government will be taking to a ...
The government is starting its 100-day plan with a laser focus on bringing down the cost of living and inflation, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says. ...
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As we settle into the swing of the new government, weâre not going to be live-blogging every single post-cabinet press conference. But we will still be keeping an eye on them and bringing you the top lines. Christopher Luxon will speak to media at 4pm today, ahead of the formal ...
South Auckland is the epicenter of family and sexual violence in New Zealand with police attending to a family and sexual violence incidence every 4 minutes. The Ted Manson Foundation has been funding a successful family violence prevention program ...
TVNZ aired the finale of the much-lauded six-part drama last night. Hereâs what The Spinoffâs two Madeleines thought.EXTREME SPOILER WARNING. DONâT SAY WE DIDNâT WARN YOU.Madeleine ChapmanAnd so, the only show that I considered appointment viewing this year has come to an end. After the Party started ...
The secondary schools teachers union will be asking the new education minister for a please explain over the governmentâs plan to ditch relationship and sexuality education guidelines from the curriculum. As part of the coalition deal between National and New Zealand First, the governing will be axing the guidelines introduced ...
What else do we lose when shows like The Project are taken off the air?Paddy Gower is wearing a blazer and enthusiastically practising a live cross scheduled to happen in 30 minutes. âI donât know why weâre rehearsing,â he yells, to no one in particular. His bossâs boss, Glen ...
Parliament resumes this week, marking the first opportunity for the new government to set out its priorities and be challenged on them by the new opposition. In anticipation of this, Te PÄti MÄori has called for supporters to unite tomorrow morning for a day of protest. According to Stuff, the ...
What are you going to be watching this week? We round up everything coming to streaming services this week, including Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+, Apple TV+, ThreeNow, Neon and TVNZ+.The biggies Shooter (on TVNZ+ from December 8) This series, based on the 2007 film of the same name, ...
Te PÄti MÄori is calling on the community to join in taking a stand against what they say is an "assault on tangata whenua" by the newly-formed government. ...
4 December 2023 â The Royal Australasian College of Dental Surgeons (RACDS) expresses deep concern regarding the recent decision by New Zealand's newly elected government to repeal the Smokefree Amendments Act. This unexpected reversal raises serious implications ...
A popular Auckland cafe that has mysteriously closed its doors is hoping to reopen, but thereâs no timeframe in place yet. The Spinoff reported last week that both Cotto, the K Road pasta bar, and the Leigh Sawmill Cafe north of the city had suddenly stopped taking customers and started ...
Analysis by Geoffrey Miller – Democracy Project (https://democracyproject.nz)New Zealandâs international relations are under new management. And Winston Peters, the new foreign minister, is already setting a change agenda.Geoffrey Miller. As expected, this includes a more pro-US positioning when it comes to the Pacific â where Peters will be picking ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Catherine Fitzpatrick, Adjunct Associate Professor, School of Social Sciences, UNSW Sydney A suite of recent cybersecurity data breaches highlight an urgent need to overhaul how companies and government agencies handle our data. But these incidents pose particular risks to victim-survivors of domestic ...
Scalpers are already out in force for next yearâs Coldplay tour, which will see the band play a record-breaking three nights at Eden Park. Writing for his Boiler Room Substack, Chris Schulz has taken a look at some of the priciest tickets being advertised on websites like Viagogo. One person ...
Responding to reports that film sector lobbyists are crying out for even more corporate welfare, Taxpayersâ Union Campaigns Manager, Connor Molloy said: âTime and time again successive Governments have been warned about falling into the trap of becoming ...
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Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael Ryan, Teaching Fellow in Economics, University of Waikato New finance minister Nicola Willis has claimed she was blindsided by the state of the governmentâs books. Days after stepping into the role, she said: The outgoing government has left us with ...
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Well that pretty much blows Tim clean out of the water. Everything, I mean everything he said was untrue or deceitful. And it makes the Herald look like sleazy lying little grubs.
I can understand Farrar and tyhe likes doing political campaigning on the issue. But the Herald and Tim? They owe us apologies.
The lead article in today’s SDT outlines councillers concerns over his actions and the editorial tells him to pull his wolly head in
So…
The ad is legal because it states his name and residential address along with his opinion. No restriction on free speech under the electoral finance act….
all_your_base
Is it because you are anonymous that you offer no opinion, only a .jpg authorised by somebody else?
Nice one burt . The lefty’s just keep digging a bigger hole for that Liarbour coffin . When lefty’s start turning on each other, as in this case, some would argue that a mutiny has occurred or a division in the socialist ranks .Without solidarity and direction I can rightfully predict that the party is rapidly heading down the political plug hole and all I can say to that is ; good riddance to bad karma.
For anybody to say they are “pro labour ” is beyond belief, because it is a fact that these people are pro corruption .
Labour are criminals and many of them should be in prison .
A Labour supporter supporting less spending on education!?!
Quick, take him out to be slowly drowned.
Good to see someone taking that fool Shadbolt to task for his ridiculous hysterics. Good to see you righties falling for his appalling spin – you lot really are a bunch of suckers.
This shows just how partisan the New Zealand news media is – the fact that the truth about Shadbolt’s bullshit was not investigated by ANY of the newsmedia shows just what a joke they are.
Shadbolt’s the class clown – we should expect this sort of crap from him. The newsmedia should have done some investigation into this rather than swallow Tim’s rhetoric hook, line and sinker.
I think, Insider, that you’ll find the media is not partisan but that it is inept and lazy and that there are structural reasons for that (such as the fact most newsrooms in NZ are driven by profits and the fact that journos are paid very little – the average “communications advisor” gets roughly twice as much as a similarly skilled and experienced journo: why would anyone competent stick around?). Witness the lack of news at the moment (and every silly season) – partly it’s because things are a little quiet but also it’s because the nation’s spindoctors are on holiday.
I’ve been waiting for someone to check out what the hell Shadbolt was saying. It’s incredible that a concerned citizen has to do the research, although a fantastic use of free speech.
Newspapers and TV , WHY AREN’T YOU FACT CHECKING!!!!!!!!!!! ??????
And meanwhile, Russell Brown exposes the lies of Andy Moore…
http://www.publicaddress.net/system/topic,906.sm?p=39172#post39172
Typically, none of the Herald’s “journalists” bothered to do a simple DNS look up.
Ah yes good ol’ Whale – the truth is that info about who’s behind DVL has been kicking around since the first of Jan ( http://kiwiblogblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/contriving-martyrdom/#comment-4156 ) yet eight days later the Herald is still misattributing the site’s ownership. What a fuckin joke.
And since the Herald’s journalists won’t do their job, try this on for size:
From:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/story.cfm?c_id=1501154&objectid=10431152&pnum=0
“Andy Moore
Danna, from what you have said, your mother abused you – this is obviously not ok, – a smack applied to a child’s hand or bottom by a loving parent however, is a different thing – and acceptable – http://www.politik.co.nz has march information plus more.”
Do a DNS lookup on http://www.politiks.co.nz – an extremist Christian anti-section 59 website – and lo, its registered in Christchurch (home of Andrew Moore, Christian libertarian)
registrant_contact_name: mybook
registrant_contact_address1: P.O. Box 8979
registrant_contact_city: christchurch
registrant_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
registrant_contact_phone: 64 3 3574599
registrant_contact_email: *****@gmail.com
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admin_contact_address1: P.O. Box 8979
admin_contact_city: christchurch
admin_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
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admin_contact_email: *****@gmail.com
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Ring the mobile number and lo, one is answered by the voice mail of… Andrew Moore.
Hi Guys,
Sorry to stray off topic, but can you please go on record and tell us if anyone from ‘The standard’ are getting paid or otherwise remunerated to blog? It would be very helpful as there is a lot of speculation right now.
Cheers
fairfax owned our free speech a long time ago. Murdoch influenced an Aussie election and his type are out to do the same in NZ. A freely thought out vote – what a joke, when we have to rely on far right conservative Nationalowned newspapers and now the Listener to give us objective information for election 2008
Sorry to stray off topic, but can you please go on record and tell us if anyone from ‘The standard’ are getting paid or otherwise remunerated to blog?
Phillp R, as I recall it’s been made quite clear by the site owners that no one here is being paid to blog. The fact blogging duties are shared out among half a dozen or so different people would tend to confirm that.
There’s only one paid blogger in NZ that I know of – his name’s David Farrar and he’s employed at National Party HQ.
“And meanwhile, Russell Brown exposes the lies of Andy Moore.”
Who is Russell Brown but a well known Labour operative? His opinion is as important as Tane’s, meaning close to nil.
Santi, that’s crap and you either know it or are simply too young to have any meaningful knowledge about politics or Hard News. Russell’s clear about his politics but unlike Farrar he is actually a journalist who isn’t dependent upon any political party for his career. You might not agree with him, but he’s no apparachik.
Lucky for Russell that its just the lefties that attack the messenger rather than try to debate the issues (just go to Kiwiblog if you don’t believe me, they said it so it must be true).
So have any of the blog authors commented on this advert or is the EFB holding them back?
Russell Brown is a sell my soul to the highest bidder socialist coward.
I have no doubts that many bloggers on this site are well paid .
Andy Moore is a personal friend of mine and if want a fight please give me a call, as I am only too happy to accommodate any concerns or frustration’s you might have .You all know my details as my blog is often overwhelmed with your cowardly venomous bile. You jellyfish creeps should get a real job .
One last word to the pathetic disgrace to manhood Russell Brown – owner of the Paris Hilton blog theatre . Are you still sacred and frightened of me ?
Daveo,
DPF is not on the Nat payroll to blog… he’s a blogger who happens to also have a job. Much the same, I suspect, a great deal of the members of thestandard.org.
“DPF is not on the Nat payroll to blog. he’s a blogger who happens to also have a job.” A job with the National Party of New Zealand. Just thought I’d mention that bit.
D4J ,
Everyone is frightened of you and for you. You possess a hatred that seems to know no bounds. Why don’t you use your short time on this planet to help people understand you and not constantly seek to intimidate people.By the way never assume you are the only person who has heavy shit to deal with. Do what that Jesus guy suggested for once.
“he’s a blogger who happens to also have a job”.
That allows him up to 10 significant posts a day. It’s a good job for some eh.
Do what that Jesus guy suggested for once.
That made me snort with laughter, somewhat to the surprise of my workmates. đ
What a bummer that the Nats have come out and disowned the rabid, motley bunch of anti-EFA melcontents. That’s the smartest piece of politics from any side of the past few years.
I’d hoped that they would have been all vocal togther for once the public is made aware of the connected dots of D4J, Whale Oil, Andy Moore and the like and the nature of their vitriolic rantings it will kill any supposed groundswell of support for the right.
The public at large has no idea of how fucked up this rent a mob are. If they are considered to be the voice of the right then ta ta come election time.
No wonder National are distancing themselves for the likes of D4J and Whale Oil can only lose the election for them, not help win it. They are major liabilities despite what their egos tell them.
It will be a right laugh however, if any financial, administrative or strategic lkink is outed between National and any “third party” such as the Hortons. Having now taken the holier than thou position it will kill them once any duplicity is discovered. There is no going back – the rod for the Nat backbone of jelly has just been created.
j,
I’ve heard DPF mention that he sets up a lot of posts to time-release, so they don’t all pile on to the site at once.
Matthew,
I have a job with a government department. Therefore, anything I might choose to blog MUST be government department spin, right? err…
(Captcha; “Trotter Money”… hehehe)
Phil,
There is no hyperlink from your name to a blog, I’ll assume that you don’t have one, or that it’s not related to politics and you therefore choose to keep it seperate. So, there’s a difference between someone who chooses to comment in their idle (or not-so idle đ ) time at work, and someone who is in the employ of the National party and clearly devotes a great deal of their time to writing a staunchly pro-National blog.
Your Government Department may not be aware of your blogging, do you think you can say the same for National and Kiwiblog? I think not; it’s disingenuous to suggest a parallel between your commenting, and DPF’s blogging and the commenting he does upon his blog throughout the day.
I’ll accept it was a tenuous link, but I think the point remains relevant.
Does DPF still have that market research business on the side?
Do you think his other clients know about Kiwiblog?
Do you think DPF is, therefore, writing “staunchly pro-client” blogs?
Alternatively, what of those bloggers who also work for the Greens or the Labour Party? Surely there must be a few, and are we to tarr them all with the same biased brush?
“That allows him up to 10 significant posts a day. It’s a good job for some eh.”
Well, he owns the business, he does a lot of his writing early in the morning and times it for release throughout the day. Not only that, he has been blogging for a long time, and comes from newsgroups before that. Its called experience.
“Does DPF still have that market research business on the side?
Do you think his other clients know about Kiwiblog?
Do you think DPF is, therefore, writing “staunchly pro-client” blogs? ”
Given that his blog posts aren’t necssarily related to his Curia clients, I couldn’t say. If he, for example, did volunteer work for the Red Cross I wouldn’t be trying to string a link between them, as there woundn’t be one.
I’m not saying he is a paid blogger per se, (I disagree with that comment for lack of evidence) but that there is a strong link between National party and Farrar, and the National party and the content of his blog; this much is clear.
I can’t think of any other such prolific blogger who is strongly aligned with a political party, but then I haven’t specifically gone out looking or taken an interest. If there are those out there, I would expect them to be strongly representative of the party of which they are a member – you wouldn’t write a political blog that was ideologically opposed to a party you had voluntarily joined!
Going back to your original comment – it’s up to the readers to infer (if they choose to take an interest) to what extent Farrar’s blog is aligned with the National party. I can only say it’s natural to assume there is a strong link given the content, Farrar’s background and current employment.
MP- it’s also worth noting the fact that Farrar’s spin is almost always exactly the same as the party’s. As someone who’s worked inside the party for more than a decade Farrar understands that the key in this game isn’t good analysis, it’s being able to stay on message with the party and repeat the same partisan lines relentlessly – and he does that very well. That’s why I don’t take Farrar seriously. His employment is just the kicker.
“he does a lot of his writing early in the morning and times it for release throughout the day”
wow, you seem to know a lot about it. How many DPF’S are there? I’m sure he posts and writes during the day.
Funnily enough I’m starting to think he fattens up his threads with
various versions of himself. There’s angry conservative businessman, nice “anti socialist” mum, and “i use to vote labour but not anymore” guy . DPF, what a writer.
“there is a strong link between National party and Farrar, and the National party and the content of his blog; this much is clear”
Mmmm lets see. In the past DPF has openly disagreed with National policy. Not just MP misbehaviour, not just statements in the house. POLICY.
Has The Standard?
In the past DPF has complimented the Labour party on its actions and policy.
Will The Standard ever compliment National for anything? The evidence so far doesnt seem to indicate so.
You KNOW who DPF is, you know his background. We dont know anything about the people behind The Standard. And a declaration of independence from someone that remains anonymous doesnt mean too much.
Daveo – I know what you mean but here everything gets taken very literally so I meant that as it’s not his specific contracted job to write kiwiblog, as far as I understand it. Although in truth I don’t know what he does for the Party over and above what is mentioned on his blog. I don’t need to đ
I agree with your latest though, that’s what I meant by ‘there is a strong link between … the National party and the content of his blog‘.
“Mmmm lets see. In the past DPF has openly disagreed with National policy. Not just MP misbehaviour, not just statements in the house. POLICY.”
This I gotta see! Got a link?
yeh, Kimble , DPF occasionally has a go when National isn’t as right wing as he’d like. It’s hardly the spotlight he torches Labour with.
and obviously Kimble you write to the herald complaining about their anonymous editorials.
Most right wing commentators openly use their ‘freemarket” beliefblogs in coordination with their commerce so using their name actually is of benefit to them. It is difficult to question business practise in this blog country without being presented as a anti-capitalist socialist/communist/ fascist. It’s intimidating and detracts from the message. The abuse is too much. Many of us have very important ties to the infrastructure of business and are very strategic with them.
This channel doesn’t actually require names, it requires rational progresive ideas and debate. That’s why it’s revolutionary.
“Will The Standard ever compliment National for anything? The evidence so far doesnt seem to indicate so.”
Well, if the National Party actually ever does anything commendable I’ll certainly commend them for it. I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for them to do so though.
“We dont know anything about the people behind The Standard.”
Come up valiant and corageous people from the left. Print your names and addresses ala DPF before you continue berating himm.
At least, he has the balls to do it. Will you?
Come up valiant and corageous santi. Print your name and address ala DPF before you continue berating himm.
santi, DPF may very well be using anonymous posts????
“At least, he has the balls to do it. Will you?”
Pretty much says it all. Santi, it’s not some juvenile pissing-contest.
I’m using my name, you’re not.
By your logic, you have no balls.
Care to take a mature position in this discussion?
I’m just pleased National has distanced itself from these mouth-foamers. Really they are the party’s achilles heel. I hate to think what embarrassing thing these people are going to do next.
Probably most here hope they will continue in the same vein đ
Ruth
Loved your barbecue story. It made me laugh.
It’s a shame you’re National but heh, you can’t be perfect.
Snelly
The ‘public at large’ is listening right now and will be happy to circulate any new information about D4J, Whaleoil and the like.
Matthew Pilott
From some of the users’ abusive attitudes and given that some of them are in a position to influence any one of our lives I would strongly dissuade anyone from giving their full name.
But what really amazes me is that these are the very people who are screaming out that free speech will disappear and yet they’re trying to take away mine and anyone else’s voice that disagrees with them.
WHAT HYPOCRITES
“.. yet they’re trying to take away mine and anyone else’s voice that disagrees with them.”
Don’t play victim and make false statements, Jum. Nobody is curtailing your freedom of speech. Quite the contrary.
Thx Jum!
Really it doesn’t make much difference to me who wins this year. Politics doesn’t affect my everyday life, but I enjoy being involved in it – you meet interesting people :-).
Nothing much is going to change if the Nats win – I just think it’s time for someone else to buy the beer – same in the US.
Santi
So why have the anonymous bloggers of the standard stopped blogging about NZ politics, surely not because they would need to provide their full names and residential addresses if they want to express their political opinions…. must be some other reason… either that or the rancid EFB has completely shut them down.
I guess we will know once they resume their anti John Key and anti National party banter. I’m waiting….
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Hey standard anon blog authors – Don’t vote Labour… what have you got to say about that?
From some of the users’ abusive attitudes and given that some of them are in a position to influence any one of our lives I would strongly dissuade anyone from giving their full name.
Precisely. Apart from the obvious fact that people might have very valid reasons why they feel freer to comment if they don’t have to use their real name, there are people on the right who are so damn creepy and abusive you’d have to fear for your safety if they had your full name and address.
So why have the anonymous bloggers of the standard stopped blogging about NZ politics
Possibly because most of then are still on holiday? Just a hunch…
Burt you drunken old prick. I see you’re still not taking your ritalin and you’re still obsessed with bolding random statements. Now, while you’re mouthing Farrar’s lamentably ignorant dog-whistle talking points about anonymity you may wish to consider this: you post anonymously. If you want to bitch and whine about others failing to use their real names then you might want to lead by example. Or alternatively I could find out who you are (I’m getting pretty good at this) and let folk know. Whaddya say Burt? I was hoping you’d’ve asked santa for a bit of self-reflexivity this xmas but it seem we’re gonna have to face another year of your yapping.
I’ve heard DPF mention that he sets up a lot of posts to time-release, so they don’t all pile on to the site at once.
Yeah I saw DPF claiming that as well so I had a look and as far as I can tell there is no facility in wordpress (or plug-in for it) that allows this to be done. I personally doubt that the Nats would use Farrar for polling because he’s simply too stupid to do it properly. There is no way any major party would entrust the gathering of its raw data to him. In my honest opinion he is getting paid to blog via his “Curia contract”. I mean have you seen the curia website? It’s barely a place holder and I’ve not seen him advertise anywhere – that’s because he doesn’t need to. It’s also why he’s responded so badly to the standard and blogblog – his blogging is his bread and butter, it pays his mortgage. The more he’s shown up the more likely the party is to drop him. Here’s to a bloody and vicious 2008…
“Or I could find out who you are (I’m getting pretty good at this)..”
Really Robinson? I didn’t know that to your eloquence and fine writing abilities, you also add the hound-dog touch.
You’d have done well in Germany of the 30’s.
Ah, another talented left-winger and socialist!
Hey robinsod – you are a abusive wee #### aren’t you . Wonder if your so lippy man to man ? I would love to find out one day ,and j you are that pathetic I know why I call this site the sub standard sewer .
Hey robinsod and you twisted lefty nutbars – Go #### yourselves – you scum of the earth . Russell Brown like you foaming dogs are pure communist filth . You’re selfish gravy train of government funds makes you deluded righteous creeps and in reality you are just up yourself pricks who are going down this time .
Ah, another talented left-winger and socialist!
Yep.
Robinsod
Yes I post anonymously and I post about political issues. It was legal last year – is it legal this year ? What changed Robinsod? Oh that’s right some self serving pricks passed some laws that shut down free speech…..
Waaaa hooo – an anonymous blogger threatening to out another anonymous blogger… Such is life under the EFB I guess, unable to debate the issues the highly pissed off anonymous bloggers start to turn on each other and shooting the messenger is all that remains when the message is off limits….
How about we meet for a beer one night and lets see if you still have the balls to call me a drunken old prick ?
Are you threatening me Burt? I mean, I don’t mind if you are but at least have the guts to say it outright rather than hiding behind the old “meet for a beer” line you coward.
Oh and Burt? Of course it’s legal to write about politics on a blog. Only a fool would think otherwise…
I’m not threatening you at all Robinsod – are you paranoid? It’s simple – if you are obsessing about who I really are then it would be much easier if we meet face to face. If you out me it only proves that what you think is OK for you is not OK for me – which is to be expected from a do as I say not as I do Labour supporter.
If it’s legal to write about politics on a multiple anonymous author blog then why have the authors here at the standard stopped doing it since the EFB passed.
Whaleoil (I know you don’t take anything he says seriously – but he can’t be wrong 100% of the time) seems to think that multiple anonymous author blogs are captured by the EFB – If he correct then this certainly explains why the standard have suddenly stopped posting about NZ political issues.
“Only a fool would think otherwise.” – Time will tell Robinsod – if the authors here at the standard get back to their previous form somebody might just want to take it as a test case. Very embarrassing for the standard having defended the EFB if it’s shut them down.
OK Burt – use the old trick of making a veiled threat and then backing out of it if you want but that just shows everyone here what a total coward you are. I’m sure the standard would welcome a test case but let’s face it anything that retarded chimp Whale comes out with is 99% likely to be wrong so I can’t see it happening in the near future.
As far as outing you goes Burt – I have no intention of doing so (though I’ve been doing ok since I was outed by the aforementioned chimp). Oh and Burt? There’s no way you could do as I do – you lack the basic intelligence to even approach what I do.
Robinsod
You are priceless.
That after: “Or alternatively I could find out who you are (I’m getting pretty good at this) and let folk know..” followed by “As far as outing you goes Burt – I have no intention of doing so”.
Pots and kettles…. Guess you realised what a hypocrite you were posing anonymously threatening to out other anonymous posters.
Robinsod
I do agree I’d need to work pretty hard to make as much of a fool of myself as you just did – but I think it was a lack of intelligence that you didn’t notice you were doing exactly what you were incorrectly denigrating me for doing.
Keep it Robinsod, the short bus will be along shortly to take you to remedial reasoning classes.
You are priceless.
Why thank you Burt – I had thought yoy were completely obtuse but it seems you have some sense after all.
Chicken, chicken, cluck, cluck.
Congratulations burt for unmasking the feeble robinson.
Hey santi and/or Burt – email me at mickyporton[at]hotmail.com we’ll go on a date.
Romance – ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Sorry Michael Porton but I don’t do pinko-socialists.
Oh no – you’re breakin my heart wee man.
Robinsod
So what do you do Robinsod?
I’m a practicing psychiatrist Burt, and Doctor Robinsod says “Burt! Quick! Take your Ritilin!”
I always thought the sub standard ward must have a resident psychiatrist .It is very useful to have a Sigmund loop doctor close by . I’ve got one and she is called my shadow . Cool I can handle that and I hope you don’t stock no hinamanu psychotic wind up drugs in this unit over here? Because I just got a month sin bin over at kiwiblog for threating to punch the ####’# lights out .
Sod that wasn’t bad wit and satire and it is great to see you and burt going for it hammering and tongs . Must go pills to take, another zombie day in Helengrad . Cheers big ears .
Burt said:
Burt you don’t understand the EFB, and nor does Whale. Blogs are exempt, in fact specifically so.
And the reason we weren’t posting was because we were on holiday. Some of us still are. Hmmm, when you look back that’s kind of an embarrassing diatribe you’ve got there, eh?
Ummm, did anyone bother to check on who Carl Pascoe is? A member of the Chch Polytech Council, amongst other things…conflict of interest anyone?
Or does that only apply to anti-EFA supporters?