Open mike 02/10/2023

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  1. Dennis Frank 1

    Watched Winston responding to Ryan Bridge in interview just now on AM. Went well. Load of fun all around. He's totally on the ball at present. Bet it goes down a hoot with the yokels (if they can figure out how to get the re-run online). Kingmaker.

    He even cited an instance of agreeing with Seymour to confound expectations. Doubt if the electorate wants to give him total control though – just enough to spoil the expectations of the two sprats he'll be having to teach a thing or two sometime eventually, after voters deliver murk on the day…

    • pat 1.1

      Winston thrives on 'Don't hate the player, hate the game.'

      Support for NZ First is not an endorsement of Winston or anything he says but rather a protest at the whole nonsense….how large that protest ends up being will depend on how motivated the 'protesters' are to vote….I suspect a larger portion wont even bother to protest, they are resigned.

  2. Dennis Frank 2

    James explains Luxon's fall-back option:

    it's not up to me. It's not up to Marama. It's not even up to our caucus. It is for Green Party members who they will support into Government."

    So Lux would have to prove his ability as a deal-maker. Only viable if Seymour refuses to do what Winston tells him. Lux needs to have an alternative to switch to, which means prior planning for Plan B, which means press the teal button on his option module.

    • PsyclingLeft.Always 2.1

      Are you still pushing that blue/Green BS ? Do you honestly think that would fly? Beside the fact that the Nats arent even..a "teal" Environment group.

      Give it a rest aye?

    • observer 2.2

      Oh, the Teal Fantasy again.

      National and Labour (MPs, if not wider party) could reach a minimalist but just about feasible agreement, if they really had to. Obviously they won't try, but that's for internal political reasons in both parties, not policy reasons.

      National and the Greens are much further apart than that. A non-starter. Only brought up every 3 years by bored commentators.

      • Dennis Frank 2.2.1

        Usually I'd agree with that. Currently it looms as a plausible outcome of negotiation failure. Realistic if the troika is dysfunctional. Since it has yet to function, it's easy to envisage the feasibility of that.

        • Bearded Git

          It might be an option in your mind Dennis, but nobody else with any credibility takes it seriously.

          If the troika Nat/ACT/NZF gains 60+ seats but is dysfunctional we are in for another election.

          • Dennis Frank

            I suspect you mean leftists, but that's cool. I won't be the only non-partisan seeing it this way! I'm enjoying the discomfort on the right that the media are now generating. angel

      • Mike the Lefty 2.2.2

        The Greens and National did work together on the "Warm up New Zealand – Heat Smart programme in the earlier years of the John Key government but things have changed considerably; different leadership plus changed social and political environment.

        • Roy Cartland

          Of course they can work together. They just won't be able to form a government in any way, unless National drastically changes its regressive policies. The GP could still vote in favour of good legislation, were Nat ever to put any forward.

  3. observer 3

    Luxon is all over the place this morning (like most mornings). Open mouth, make it up. He can't even answer basic questions:

    Election 2023: Watch live – National’s Christopher Luxon faces Newstalk ZB’s Leaders Breakfast – NZ Herald

    He's focused on the big issues …

    Luxon was frustrated that the names of government entities were "Māori first and English second". He said he didn't mind having bilingual names but he thought English should be first, given it was the most commonly spoken language in New Zealand.

  4. Dennis Frank 4

    I'd never heard of it but an Auckland councillor mentioned it on the AM show:

    Definitions from Oxford Languages … noun: situationism

    1. the theory that human behaviour is determined by surrounding circumstances rather than by personal qualities.
    2. a revolutionary political theory which regards modern industrial society as being inevitably oppressive and exploitative.

    Makes sense that behaviour responds to situations but I doubt that discounting free will bv implication will ever work in practice, so cross out #1 as unrealistic. Inasmuch as being born into a capitalist society can be typically experienced as oppression and exploitation, fair to say many will rate #2 as realistic.

    However the councillor mentioned it in a third sense: as a type of interactive relationship with another person, with mutually agreed terms. So looks like the meme is trending.

  5. dv 5

    Did Natz calc on tax relief

    We get $4.60 A WEEK WOW.

    sadsadsad sadsadsad​​​​​​​

  6. Janice 6

    Among all Luxon/Williss's statements there are two that I can't understand. Willis is going to get beneficiaries into 'super' community jobs and Luxon is going to make many public servants redundant – replacing one lot of beneficiaries with another. Also in Luxon's first 100 days there doesn't seem to be any allowance for the days needed to negotiate with Winston.

    • AB 6.1

      Hmm. I doubt that "super community jobs" (if they existed at all) would be public servants as we normally understand the term. More likely exceptionally cheap, insecure, casual work allowing the private sector to lower wage costs. But who knows with these people. They are allowed to get away with so much nonsense they aren't even trying to be serious any more.

    • observer 6.2

      The election result is on Nov 3. Seat numbers usually change from election night. Then negotiations have to be concluded, then MPs are sworn in, then Parliament starts. So, next to nothing will be done before Xmas.

      All this "first 100 days" talk is just part of the bluster … "I'm in charge, I'll hit the ground running". It sounds like action, and relies on the media lazily repeating empty claims instead of knowing how the process works.

      • dv 6.2.1

        AND 'negotiations" will take how long?

        1 day 2 days 7 days 20 days ………. 50 days

        • observer

          If Nat+ACT have a guaranteed majority on election night (large enough to be immune from special votes, when Nats have historically lost seats) then negotiations between the 2 parties would take place while waiting for the result.

          So they basically need 63, and even then they would want to talk to NZF, as insurance. The nightmare for National is that NZF are 4.9% on election night but get 5% in the final result, making the negotiations obsolete.

          Not an impossible outcome, at all.

      • Dennis Frank 6.2.2

        I suspect the media will start to focus on Winston's post-election track record sometime soon. That may force him to smarten up – but in physics the three-body orbital problem remains in the too-hard basket and I bet the analog applies to the right of politics here & now! They need time to converge.

      • AB 6.2.3

        For anybody who worked in the private sector during the 90s and was unfortunate enough to have American bosses parachuted in from a parent company, the 100-day thing sounds familiar. The Yanks loved to demand 30-day, 60-day, and 90-day plans and execution timelines. These times weren't even predicated on cobbling together a bogus, over-simplified Gantt chart based on estimates carefully garnered from the nether regions of middle management. No, they came in an unhygienically direct fashion straight from the nether regions of the boss. But all that misses the point – these 30, 60, 90-day fantasies weren't plans at all – they were assertions that "you are all lazy sods and you'll do as you are told". They were statements of absolute power.

      • lprent 6.2.4

        Could make Guy Fawkes night more interesting.

    • Belladonna 6.3

      For most of the people to whom this policy is pitched – the vision of currently highly-paid bureaucrats driving a bus for $30/hr – is not a down-side.

      It's highly unlikely that many, if any, of the people who might be made redundant would be getting the unemployment benefit. Stand down, and mortgage/rent requirements will push them into getting another job (albeit with less salary and benefits) ASAP.

      The long term beneficiaries are not those who've just lost a job, but rather those who have lots of other issues which make getting a job harder.

    • Peter 6.4

      Don't forget the biggies. From their announcements.

      "National will ban cell phone use at school.

      The presumption is cell phones are off and away all day, including during breaks between class,

      The ban will be implemented via regulations the Government can establish."

      Maybe Act will get some of the gurus from their 'Getting rid of Regulations' team to formulate the necessary regulations.

      • bwaghorn 6.4.1

        Just spent an evening with someone working in the education sector with several schools, some teachers have kids using their phs in class , to engage them with topics!

    • psych nurse 6.5

      Redundant = redundancy payments = no savings = employment court backlog = more cost to taxpayer = court costs and penalty payments to plaintif = reinstment= full circle.

      • Barfly 6.5.1

        I seem to remember an ACT statement about removing reinstatements as an employment dispute remedy

  7. Chris Clark 7

    I have an idea.

    How about NZ adopt a federal constitution with our regions becoming Aussie/US style states, Canadian style provinces or Swiss style cantons? Central government would only look after immigration, trade, foreign affairs and defence.

    Some examples could be Auckland could become a city-state province with very few trade restrictions, befitting its position as New Zealand’s major trading centre.

    Wellington could become a federal capital like the ACT in Australia, or Washington DC in America, in which representatives of the provinces would meet to pass federal laws. It may or may not also have a government just for Wellington Province. This would ensure there was a minimum of disruption for Wellington and for the remaining central government in the transition to decentralisation.

    Tuhoe, who have always claimed independence on the grounds that they did not sign the Treaty of Waitangi, could become a self-governing province. They would only be subject to federal law, and would otherwise have the freedom to set their own cultural agenda.

    Nelson and Westland provinces could legalise cannabis and grow it on a wide scale, as well as legalise cannabis cafes that serviced both the local and the tourist markets.

    What do you reckon?

    • Adrian 7.1

      Nelson and the Coast couldnt organise a toke-up in a dope factory, ffs they cant even get water to go where they want it.

    • Dennis Frank 7.2

      Your design was envisaged in GP discussions & policy submissions just over 30 years ago – stuck in my memory. Grass-roots framing was used. Later, bio-regionalism became the focus (in the 1990s I think).

      So I agree that enhanced local govt is feasible, with regions emerging for common -interest decision-making. It would have to be self-organising from the people though.

      There's a way to blend that with top-down elitism if the elite are genuine in caring for the people. Negotiators could proceed on the basis of intelligent design.

  8. Tiger Mountain 8

    Come on acting PM Carmel–make a Cap’n’s Call!

    Announce a Wealth Tax & Basic Income…and win this election…

  9. tsmithfield 9

    Now that Chippy has covid, I wonder what will happen re the remaining leader's debates. The final debate is 12th of October. I think there is a Press debate this week.

    I doubt that Chippy will be able to participate in the debate this week. Technically Chippy will have got through the 7 day Covid isolation period by then. But, I imagine he still might be feeling quite under the weather by then.

    My suggestion is that the leaders debates be replaced with deputy leaders debates. So, Willis vs Davis.

    • Tiger Mountain 9.1

      My suggestion smithy is at #8.

    • Incognito 9.2

      Technically Chippy will have got through the 7 day Covid isolation period by then.

      Nope, that’s incorrect, actually.

      • tsmithfield 9.2.1

        I guess you are right, given that the mandatory isolation period no longer applies. And it is now recommended to isolate for five days. So, point taken.

        But, I guess it is a moot point. I know people who have still felt absolute crap weeks after, even though they have technically recovered from Covid. So, the key thing is how well that Chippy will feel for the last debate, and whether there should be contingency for that in case he doesn't feel up to it.

    • Bryan Dods 9.3

      @tsmithfield Deputy leaders would be Willis vs Sepuloni.

      Carmel Sepuloni has been Labour Deputy since January in case you hadn't heard.

      • Bryan Dods 9.3.1

        Apology for my confusion. Sepuloni is Deputy Prime Minister and a Labour MP, but Davis is Deputy Leader of the Labour Party.

  10. Adrian 10

    Luxons bluster and apparent nervousness and grasping at straws, like the "who's on top language one " and NZF phonecalls, make me think that maybe he knows something that we dont and that their own polling is not as on-track as the media presume. Not by much mind, but just Nat/ Act nowhere near the neccessary. Anybody else get this hopeful feeling?

  11. PsyclingLeft.Always 11

    From the "Who'd have thunk that ? " Files… (but it is good to see the numbers !)

    An RNZ analysis of political donations since 2021 shows people involved in the property industry are giving the most – and almost all of it is going to National, ACT and NZ First.

    RNZ's analysis shows National has received more than $1.3m in donations from people involved in the property industry since the beginning of 2021. The party has made no secret of a series of policies it has that are favourable to the property sector

    We know who are the beneficiaries of NAct policy.

    • Drowsy M. Kram 11.1

      The party has made no secret of a series of policies it has that are favourable to the property sector

      yes Actually, Nat pollies are in it for themselves, and their big donors.
      There will be no ‘trickle down’ for the “bottom feeders“.

      Today’s classroom visitor is Mr Luxon from the National Party
      MR LUXON: If you were naughty you went to boot camp and got scared into being an ordinary hardworking New Zealander. Or you became a bottom-feeder. Don’t become bottom-feeders, boys and girls.

    • Barfly 11.2

      The National Party – for the best laws you can buy. Enquire now about their easy payment plans.

  12. weka 12

    Post up now about Winston Peters and that Jack Tame interview, and why Peters is dangerous.

  13. lprent 13

    Weird. The RSS feeds have almost died. Another task to look at after I get past my current work log jam.

    Ummm. looks like either a data query problem, or a render issue.

    Looks like it must have just happened.

  14. AB 14

    I enjoyed the TVNZ Sunday piece on the Dunedin Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study (aka "Dunedin Longitudinal Study" and "Dunedin Study") and the recent death death of its director, Richie Poulton. John Campbell's elegiac lyricism was exactly right for this topic (sometimes it's not). In line with the "nature loads the gun, nurture pulls the trigger" hypothesis, Poulton mentioned briefly that the biggest thing the study had taught him was that the childhood experience of poverty is extremely problematic, potentially pulling many triggers. It is hard not to believe that many of our social problems would in large part wash away in a couple of generations if we effectively ended poverty. Instead I have to listen to Mark Mitchell wanting to get tough on crime. Depressing.

    • pat 14.1

      Difficult to eradicate poverty if you arnt prepared to redistribute wealth.

      Like you I think many of our social problems would in large part disappear if poverty were ended, however a couple of generations is about 40 years so what is to be done about the mess we have already created meantime…ignoring it is not an option.

      • AB 14.1.1

        "Ignoring it is not an option". Agree Pat. I do think that the short-term interventions (some balance of support and disapproval/punishment) should be influenced by our belief in the long-term approach – and that we might be surprised at how quickly poverty reduction starts to produce small incremental gains.

    • Drowsy M. Kram 14.2

      yes Party Vote Green smiley

      Plenty of wisdom from Poulton in that TVNZ Sunday programme.

      Nat (Willux) policies will (further) entrench poverty in Kiwi society – not just physically, but also in hearts and minds. Actually, NAct pollies are the real "bottom feeders", imho.

      An Ode for .. Baron Luxon

      The Baron found himself repeating his words mindlessly

      In a dull, trance-like state.

      He began to perspire under the hot and fiery sun

      And the silent watchful gaze of a crowd of bottom feeders

      Who gathered by the roadside with their petitions and pleas.

      Tax cuts for everyone!” shouted the Baron with forced cheer

      As he tried to escape through the throng of odorous peasants.

      He edged around a giant hole in the road.

      Help,” he heard a voice cry from the bottomless pit,

      I fell down here looking for The Details.

      The Baron pretended not to hear Lady Nicola,

      For there before him was the Magnificent Castle of State.

      Why poverty in New Zealand is everyone’s concern
      Liang describes poverty as a “heritable condition” that perpetuates and amplifies through generations: “It is also not hard to see how individual poverty flows into communities and society, with downstream effects on economics, crime and health, as well as many other systems. Loosen one strand and everything else unravels.

    • ianmac 14.3

      POVERTY The Dunedin study shows evidence that about 70-80% of children are in future heading to prison or crime or unemployment come from poverty.

      Sign up here. Be in the poverty team and stay on path. Vote NAct to speed up your future prospects.

  15. PsyclingLeft.Always 15

    Not Politics..Just sad…

    Drivers asked to slow down after rare bitterns killed near Dargaville

    Department of Conservation (DOC) senior biodiversity ranger Reuben Booth said it was likely the birds were catching skinks on the roadside when they were hit.

    He pleaded with drivers to keep an eye out for the tall, brown-and-white speckled birds, especially where the road passes wetlands, their favoured habitat.

    Booth said the bittern was so rare, the loss of even two birds could affect the species' chances of survival.

    Colin French, a kaitiaki for local hapū Te Uri o Hau, said the matuku hūrepo was a rare taonga species.

    "Slow down, they won't always run, as sometimes they will stand still like a stick as a defence mechanism to camouflage themselves from predators or threats," French said.

    Its like Pukeko…and Kahu (Hawk) some people either dont care..or want hit them ?

    Geez I always hit the horn button even when I was a truck driver..

    Hawks take a little while to react..(Raptor claws)

    But the Bitterns esp..running them over…just wrong.

    • alwyn 15.1

      Surely it is far more important to save the skinks?

      Why do you think that it is OK for bitterns to murder those friendly little skinks?

      • Drowsy M. Kram 15.1.1

        Surely it is far more important to save the skinks?

        Why? Genuine question.

        Why do you think that it is OK for bitterns to murder those friendly little skinks?

        A bittern's (“Conservation status: Nationally Critical“) gotta eat – or is meat murder?

        Australasian bitterns feed mainly on fish, including eels, but they also take spiders, insects, molluscs, worms, freshwater crayfish, frogs and lizards.

        Phew – no reason then for us non-skinks to fear being bittern wink

      • PsyclingLeft.Always 15.1.2

        I suppose there is something sadder…a puerile right wing troll who briefly emerges from under his bridge…before scuttling back there.

      • AB 15.1.3

        There are native skinks and then there are the Australian invaders (rainbow or plague skinks). They have invaded our place in Auckland and look a lot like native skinks. Kingfisher (kotare) round here seem to account for a few and even a lucky sparrow or two gets in on the act. . Bitterns probably lack either the knowledge or inclination to distinguish between the natives and the Aussies, but are probably eating mostly the latter. I remember seeing bittern in the swampy areas of farmland when camped at Kai-iwi lakes (also near Dargaville) in the mid '70's. The trout in the lakes were in their prime then – plenty in 2.5 to 3kg range and some of the few trout anywhere actually worth eating..

  16. SPC 16

    Journalists are welcome to borrow these questions

    “Given the 100 days programme begins from when a coalition agreement is completed, will it start this year or next year”?

    Follow up question, “are you confident of the coalition agreement holding for 100 days”?

    “How can you guarantee to realise this programme in 100 days before a coalition agreement has been reached”?

    “How many lies have you told about this before today”

    What, if anything, you have said will you stand by, rather than make any changes to form a coalition agreement?

    Do you know what a grifter is?

    “And is the party you lead working for the landlord class, property developer, speculator, real estate industry, the employer class, the climate change denying farming lobby, – the people who donate money to your party”.

    • AB 16.1

      100 days plans are a form of right-wing virtue signalling. They mark the heroic determination to deliver, not be held back by bureaucrats, red tape and ultimately, reality. All we need is an art deco-style poster of Luxon with sleeves rolled up shaking his fist at the sky in defiance, and the historical antecedents will be clear.

  17. Roy Cartland 17

    What could possibly be in it for Nat to pull out of the Press debate? Surely Luxon isn’t that much of a sook?

    • observer 17.1

      It is feeble, but in character.

      He is simply not up to the job he's applying for. As PM you face far more scrutiny than he has ever faced.

      No opposition leader (Nat or Lab) in the MMP era has run away as much as Luxon 2023. Not one.

    • AB 17.2

      He's signaling that the election is a sideshow, he's already won and is calling the shots. Democratic niceties are just holding him back from 'delivering' now, the 100-day plan is on the table, it's all over, get the show on the road, the only game in town, the boss is on the phone, the natural order of things is resumed.

      • Roy Cartland 17.2.1

        You know, that's not a completely stupid tactic if the Nats were up to it.

        It would be pretty risky, and annoy a few people (debate ticket holders etc), but it may enhance the idea they're trying to create that "the contest was over a long time ago".

        Dunno about Luxon, but Slippery John would have thought he could get away with it.

        • AB

          I've heard Big Lux say multiple time that he is not going to be lectured by Hipkins, or take advice from him, or be given lessons on economics by him. The language is suggestive of an imperial mindset – of an authority that comes from some place other than a democratic mandate of the people. That other place might be the heroic status of being a mighty CEO, or (freakily) it might be God.

          • Anne

            It could be a mix of both. Although I have my doubts about his so-called Christianity. Its starting to look more like it was means to an end and nothing more than that. His archaic views on social issues such as abortion, women's rights generally and the quip “bottom feeders” are far more concerning.

            Taking the country backwards needs to be spelt out in detail by Labour and the Greens because I don't think many people comprehend what it will mean for them.

  18. SPC 18

    Have we not just continued with the protection of privilege since the 1984 market reforms? Merely moved from import licensing, tariffs and subsidy to a pampering of the landlord class (mortgage deductability against rent income, no real CGT, no estate or wealth taxation, no stamp duties – there is nothing like it in the rest of the world), the employer class (ECA and no FPA industry awards easy hire of migrants etc – little like it in the rest of the world, or its scale – because holding down wages results in loss to Oz) and otherwise pandering to the industrial scale dairying by volume business.

    The results are in, overpriced land, unafforable homes for underpaid workers and an insufferable party of grifters who work them (National Party).

  19. Adrian 19

    Hes Running Scared, ( wish I could link the sound track) . Nothing worse than being bested by a crook bloke on his sickbed , yes he is a gutless sook.

    • Roy Cartland 19.1

      Chippy said he'd reschedule any other date, provide another debater or even do it via zoom, and Lux still declined. Man, that's as much of a sook out as you can get.

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    The cost of living grind continues, and the economic and inflation honeymoon is over before it began. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: PM Christopher Luxon unveiled his 100 day plan yesterday with an avowed focus of reducing cost-of-living pressures, but his Government’s initial moves and promises are actually elevating ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • Backwards to the future
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has confirmed that it will be back to the future on planning legislation. This will be just one of a number of moves which will see the new government go backwards as it repeals and cost-cuts its way into power. They will completely repeal one ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    1 day ago
  • New initiatives in science and technology could point the way ahead for Luxon government
    As the new government settles into the Beehive, expectations are high that it can sort out some  of  the  economic issues  confronting  New Zealand. It may take time for some new  ministers to get to grips with the range of their portfolio work and responsibilities before they can launch the  changes that  ...
    Point of OrderBy tutere44
    2 days ago
  • Treaty pledge to secure funding is contentious – but is Peters being pursued by a lynch mob after ...
    TV3 political editor Jenna Lynch was among the corps of political reporters who bridled, when Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters told them what he thinks of them (which is not much). She was unabashed about letting her audience know she had bridled. More usefully, she drew attention to something which ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • How long does this last?
    I have a clear memory of every election since 1969 in this plucky little nation of ours. I swear I cannot recall a single one where the question being asked repeatedly in the first week of the new government was: how long do you reckon they’ll last? And that includes all ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago
  • National’s giveaway politics
    We already know that national plans to boost smoking rates to collect more tobacco tax so they can give huge tax-cuts to mega-landlords. But this morning that policy got even more obscene - because it turns out that the tax cut is retrospective: Residential landlords will be able to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • CHRIS TROTTER: Who’s driving the right-wing bus?
    Who’s At The Wheel? The electorate’s message, as aggregated in the polling booths on 14 October, turned out to be a conservative political agenda stronger than anything New Zealand has seen in five decades. In 1975, Bill Rowling was run over by just one bus, with Rob Muldoon at the wheel. In 2023, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • GRAHAM ADAMS:  Media knives flashing for Luxon’s government
    The fear and loathing among legacy journalists is astonishing Graham Adams writes – No one is going to die wondering how some of the nation’s most influential journalists personally view the new National-led government. It has become abundantly clear within a few days of the coalition agreements ...
    Point of OrderBy gadams1000
    2 days ago
  • Top 10 news links for Wednesday, Nov 29
    TL;DR: Here’s my pick of top 10 news links elsewhere for Wednesday November 29, including:The early return of interest deductibility for landlords could see rebates paid on previous taxes and the cost increase to $3 billion from National’s initial estimate of $2.1 billion, CTU Economist Craig Renney estimated here last ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Smokefree Fallout and a High Profile Resignation.
    The day after being sworn in the new cabinet met yesterday, to enjoy their honeymoon phase. You remember, that period after a new government takes power where the country, and the media, are optimistic about them, because they haven’t had a chance to stuff anything about yet.Sadly the nuptials complete ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • As Cabinet revs up, building plans go on hold
    Wellington Council hoardings proclaim its preparations for population growth, but around the country councils are putting things on hold in the absence of clear funding pathways for infrastructure, and despite exploding migrant numbers. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Cabinet meets in earnest today to consider the new Government’s 100-day ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • National takes over infrastructure
    Though New Zealand First may have had ambitions to run the infrastructure portfolios, National would seem to have ended up firmly in control of them.  POLITIK has obtained a private memo to members of Infrastructure NZ yesterday, which shows that the peak organisation for infrastructure sees  National MPs Chris ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago
  • At a glance – Evidence for global warming
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    3 days ago
  • Who’s Driving The Right-Wing Bus?
    Who’s At The Wheel? The electorate’s message, as aggregated in the polling booths on 14 October, turned out to be a conservative political agenda stronger than anything New Zealand has seen in five decades. In 1975, Bill Rowling was run over by just one bus, with Rob Muldoon at the wheel. In ...
    3 days ago
  • Sanity break
    Cheers to reader Deane for this quote from Breakfast TV today:Chloe Swarbrick to Brook van Velden re the coalition agreement: “... an unhinged grab-bag of hot takes from your drunk uncle at Christmas”Cheers also to actual Prime Minister of a country Christopher Luxon for dorking up his swearing-in vows.But that's enough ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • Sanity break
    Cheers to reader Deane for this quote from Breakfast TV today:Chloe Swarbrick to Brook van Velden re the coalition agreement: “... an unhinged grab-bag of hot takes from your drunk uncle at Christmas”Cheers also to actual Prime Minister of a country Christopher Luxon for dorking up his swearing-in vows.But that's enough ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • National’s murderous smoking policy
    One of the big underlying problems in our political system is the prevalence of short-term thinking, most usually seen in the periodic massive infrastructure failures at a local government level caused by them skimping on maintenance to Keep Rates Low. But the new government has given us a new example, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • NZ has a chance to rise again as our new government gets spending under control
    New Zealand has  a chance  to  rise  again. Under the  previous  government, the  number of New Zealanders below the poverty line was increasing  year by year. The Luxon-led government  must reverse that trend – and set about stabilising  the  pillars  of the economy. After the  mismanagement  of the outgoing government created   huge ...
    Point of OrderBy tutere44
    3 days ago
  • KARL DU FRESNE: Media and the new government
    Two articles by Karl du Fresne bring media coverage of the new government into considerations.  He writes –    Tuesday, November 28, 2023 The left-wing media needed a line of attack, and they found one The left-wing media pack wasted no time identifying the new government’s weakest point. Seething over ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • PHILIP CRUMP:  Team of rivals – a CEO approach to government leadership
    The work begins Philip Crump wrote this article ahead of the new government being sworn in yesterday – Later today the new National-led coalition government will be sworn in, and the hard work begins. At the core of government will be three men – each a leader ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Black Friday
    As everyone who watches television or is on the mailing list for any of our major stores will confirm, “Black Friday” has become the longest running commercial extravaganza and celebration in our history. Although its origins are obscure (presumably dreamt up by American salesmen a few years ago), it has ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • In Defense of the Media.
    Yesterday the Ministers in the next government were sworn in by our Governor General. A day of tradition and ceremony, of decorum and respect. Usually.But yesterday Winston Peters, the incoming Deputy Prime Minister, and Foreign Minister, of our nation used it, as he did with the signing of the coalition ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Top 10 news links at 10 am for Tuesday, Nov 28
    Nicola Willis’ first move was ‘spilling the tea’ on what she called the ‘sobering’ state of the nation’s books, but she had better be able to back that up in the HYEFU. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Here’s my pick of top 10 news links elsewhere at 10 am ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • PT use up but fare increases coming
    Yesterday Auckland Transport were celebrating, as the most recent Sunday was the busiest Sunday they’ve ever had. That’s a great outcome and I’m sure the ...
    3 days ago
  • The very opposite of social investment
    Nicola Willis (in blue) at the signing of the coalition agreement, before being sworn in as both Finance Minister and Social Investment Minister. National’s plan to unwind anti-smoking measures will benefit her in the first role, but how does it stack up from a social investment viewpoint? Photo: Lynn Grieveson ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Giving Tuesday
    For the first time "in history" we decided to jump on the "Giving Tuesday" bandwagon in order to make you aware of the options you have to contribute to our work! Projects supported by Skeptical Science Inc. Skeptical Science Skeptical Science is an all-volunteer organization but ...
    4 days ago
  • Let's open the books with Nicotine Willis
    Let’s say it’s 1984,and there's a dreary little nation at the bottom of the Pacific whose name rhymes with New Zealand,and they've just had an election.Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, will you look at the state of these books we’ve opened,cries the incoming government, will you look at all this mountain ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Stopping oil
    National is promising to bring back offshore oil and gas drilling. Naturally, the Greens have organised a petition campaign to try and stop them. You should sign it - every little bit helps, and as the struggle over mining conservation land showed, even National can be deterred if enough people ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Don’t accept Human Rights Commission reading of data on Treaty partnership – read the survey fin...
    Wellington is braced for a “massive impact’ from the new government’s cutting public service jobs, The Post somewhat grimly reported today. Expectations of an economic and social jolt are based on the National-Act coalition agreement to cut public service numbers in each government agency in a cost-trimming exercise  “informed by” head ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • The stupidest of stupid reasons
    One of the threats in the National - ACT - NZ First coalition agreements was to extend the term of Parliament to four years, reducing our opportunities to throw a bad government out. The justification? Apparently, the government thinks "elections are expensive". This is the stupidest of stupid reasons for ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A website bereft of buzz
    Buzz from the Beehive The new government was being  sworn in, at time of writing , and when Point of Order checked the Beehive website for the latest ministerial statements and re-visit some of the old ones we drew a blank. We found ….  Nowt. Nothing. Zilch. Not a ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • MICHAEL BASSETT: A new Ministry – at last
    Michael Bassett writes – Like most people, I was getting heartily sick of all the time being wasted over the coalition negotiations. During the first three weeks Winston grinned like a Cheshire cat, certain he’d be needed; Chris Luxon wasted time in lifting the phone to Winston ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Luxon's Breakfast.
    The Prime Minister elect had his silver fern badge on. He wore it to remind viewers he was supporting New Zealand, that was his team. Despite the fact it made him look like a concierge, or a welcomer in a Koru lounge. Anna Burns-Francis, the Breakfast presenter, asked if he ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
  • LINDSAY MITCHELL:  Oranga Tamariki faces major upheaval under coalition agreement
     Lindsay Mitchell writes – A hugely significant gain for ACT is somewhat camouflaged by legislative jargon. Under the heading ‘Oranga Tamariki’ ACT’s coalition agreement contains the following item:   Remove Section 7AA from the Oranga Tamariki Act 1989 According to Oranga Tamariki:     “Section ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • BRIAN EASTON:  Peters as Minister
    A previous column looked at Winston Peters biographically. This one takes a closer look at his record as a minister, especially his policy record. Brian Easton writes – 1990-1991: Minister of Māori Affairs. Few remember Ka Awatea as a major document on the future of Māori policy; there is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Cathrine Dyer's guide to watching COP 28 from the bottom of a warming planet
    Is COP28 largely smoke and mirrors and a plan so cunning, you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel? Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: COP28 kicks off on November 30 and up for negotiation are issues like the role of fossil fuels in the energy transition, contributions to ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Top 10 news links at 10 am for Monday, Nov 27
    PM Elect Christopher Luxon was challenged this morning on whether he would sack Adrian Orr and Andrew Coster.TL;DR: Here’s my pick of top 10 news links elsewhere at 10 am on Monday November 27, including:Signs councils are putting planning and capital spending on hold, given a lack of clear guidance ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the new government’s policies of yesteryear
    This column expands on a Werewolf column published by Scoop on Friday Routinely, Winston Peters is described as the kingmaker who gets to decide when the centre right or the centre-left has a turn at running this country. He also plays a less heralded but equally important role as the ...
    4 days ago
  • The New Government’s Agreements
    Last Friday, almost six weeks after election day, National finally came to an agreement with ACT and NZ First to form a government. They also released the agreements between each party and looking through them, here are the things I thought were the most interesting (and often concerning) from the. ...
    4 days ago
  • How many smokers will die to fund the tax cuts?
    Maori and Pasifika smoking rates are already over twice the ‘all adult’ rate. Now the revenue that generates will be used to fund National’s tax cuts. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The devil is always in the detail and it emerged over the weekend from the guts of the policy agreements National ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • How the culture will change in the Beehive
    Perhaps the biggest change that will come to the Beehive as the new government settles in will be a fundamental culture change. The era of endless consultation will be over. This looks like a government that knows what it wants to do, and that means it knows what outcomes ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago
  • No More Winnie Blues.
    So what do you think of the coalition’s decision to cancel Smokefree measures intended to stop young people, including an over representation of Māori, from taking up smoking? Enabling them to use the tax revenue to give other people a tax cut?David Cormack summed it up well:It seems not only ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • 2023 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #47
    A chronological listing of news and opinion articles posted on the Skeptical Science  Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, Nov 19, 2023 thru Sat, Nov 25, 2023.  Story of the Week World stands on frontline of disaster at Cop28, says UN climate chief  Exclusive: Simon Stiell says leaders must ‘stop ...
    5 days ago
  • Some of it is mad, some of it is bad and some of it is clearly the work of people who are dangerous ...
    On announcement morning my mate texted:Typical of this cut-price, fake-deal government to announce itself on Black Friday.What a deal. We lose Kim Hill, we gain an empty, jargonising prime minister, a belligerent conspiracist, and a heartless Ayn Rand fanboy. One door closes, another gets slammed repeatedly in your face.It seems pretty ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • “Revolution” is the threat as the Māori Party smarts at coalition government’s Treaty directi...
    Buzz from the Beehive Having found no fresh announcements on the government’s official website, Point of Order turned today to Scoop’s Latest Parliament Headlines  for its buzz. This provided us with evidence that the Māori Party has been soured by the the coalition agreement announced yesterday by the new PM. “Soured” ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • The Good, the Bad, and the even Worse.
    Yesterday the trio that will lead our country unveiled their vision for New Zealand.Seymour looking surprisingly statesmanlike, refusing to rise to barbs about his previous comments on Winston Peters. Almost as if they had just been slapstick for the crowd.Winston was mostly focussed on settling scores with the media, making ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • When it Comes to Palestine – Free Speech is Under Threat
    Hi,Thanks for getting amongst Mister Organ on digital — thanks to you, we hit the #1 doc spot on iTunes this week. This response goes a long way to helping us break even.I feel good about that. Other things — not so much.New Zealand finally has a new government, and ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    6 days ago
  • Thank you Captain Luxon. Was that a landing, or were we shot down?
    Hello! Here comes the Saturday edition of More Than A Feilding, catching you up on the past week’s editions.Also in More Than A FeildingFriday The unboxing And so this is Friday and what have we gone and done to ourselves?In the same way that a Christmas present can look lovely under the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • Cans of Worms.
    “And there’ll be no shortage of ‘events’ to test Luxon’s political skills. David Seymour wants a referendum on the Treaty. Winston wants a Royal Commission of Inquiry into Labour’s handling of the Covid crisis. Talk about cans of worms!”LAURIE AND LES were very fond of their local. It was nothing ...
    6 days ago
  • Disinformation campaigns are undermining democracy. Here’s how we can fight back
    This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article. Misinformation is debated everywhere and has justifiably sparked concerns. It can polarise the public, reduce health-protective behaviours such as mask wearing and vaccination, and erode trust in science. Much of misinformation is spread not ...
    6 days ago
  • Peters as Minister
    A previous column looked at Winston Peters biographically. This one takes a closer look at his record as a minister, especially his policy record.1990-1991: Minister of Māori Affairs. Few remember Ka Awatea as a major document on the future of Māori policy; there is not even an entry in Wikipedia. ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    7 days ago
  • The New Government: 2023 Edition
    So New Zealand has a brand-spanking new right-wing government. Not just any new government either. A formal majority coalition, of the sort last seen in 1996-1998 (our governmental arrangements for the past quarter of a century have been varying flavours of minority coalition or single-party minority, with great emphasis ...
    7 days ago
  • The unboxing
    And so this is Friday and what have we gone and done to ourselves?In the same way that a Christmas present can look lovely under the tree with its gold ribbon but can turn out to be nothing more than a big box holding a voucher for socks, so it ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    7 days ago
  • A cruel, vicious, nasty government
    So, after weeks of negotiations, we finally have a government, with a three-party cabinet and a time-sharing deputy PM arrangement. Newsroom's Marc Daalder has put the various coalition documents online, and I've been reading through them. A few things stand out: Luxon doesn't want to do any work, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Hurrah – we have a new government (National, ACT and New Zealand First commit “to deliver for al...
    Buzz from the Beehive Sorry, there has been  no fresh news on the government’s official website since the caretaker trade minister’s press statement about the European Parliament vote on the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement. But the capital is abuzz with news – and media comment is quickly flowing – after ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 week ago
  • Christopher Luxon – NZ PM #42.
    Nothing says strong and stable like having your government announcement delayed by a day because one of your deputies wants to remind everyone, but mostly you, who wears the trousers. It was all a bit embarrassing yesterday with the parties descending on Wellington before pulling out of proceedings. There are ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago
  • Coalition Government details policies & ministers
    Winston Peters will be Deputy PM for the first half of the Coalition Government’s three-year term, with David Seymour being Deputy PM for the second half. Photo montage by Lynn Grieveson for The KākāTL;DR: PM-Elect Christopher Luxon has announced the formation of a joint National-ACT-NZ First coalition Government with a ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • “Old Coat” by Peter, Paul & Mary.
     THERE ARE SOME SONGS that seem to come from a place that is at once in and out of the world. Written by men and women who, for a brief moment, are granted access to that strange, collective compendium of human experience that comes from, and belongs to, all the ...
    1 week ago

  • New Zealand welcomes European Parliament vote on the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement
    A significant milestone in ratifying the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement (FTA) was reached last night, with 524 of the 705 member European Parliament voting in favour to approve the agreement. “I’m delighted to hear of the successful vote to approve the NZ-EU FTA in the European Parliament overnight. This is ...
    1 week ago
  • Further humanitarian support for Gaza, the West Bank and Israel
    The Government is contributing a further $5 million to support the response to urgent humanitarian needs in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel, bringing New Zealand’s total contribution to the humanitarian response so far to $10 million. “New Zealand is deeply saddened by the loss of civilian life and the ...
    2 weeks ago

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