Open mike 22/09/2010

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  1. NickS 1

    And here’s brilliant post on the South Island’s Alpine Fault, which also deals with the media’s bad habit of saying we’re “overdue” for a big one, when we lack a much longer view of the AF’s seismic history:
    http://all-geo.org/highlyallochthonous/2010/09/all-quiet-on-the-alpine-fault/

  2. ZeeBop 2

    Labour mothballed some planes in the late 1990’s, what don’t the National party
    and its mouth pieces on the morning show know about the reasons. That having the
    planes, the capacity even if not ready, was a defense! With no immediate threat it
    made sense to mothball them, and trying to sell them off and invest in better new
    technology was a GOOD policy. I’m surprised that these supposed experts on
    defense cannot understand that it was a more effective policy – give the lack of
    immediate threats – to have them available to bring into working order.

    Peak oil changes everything, we cannot afford to run them now, National finally
    realize that even having this planes available is no longer important. Globally wars
    will be done much cheaper.

    If any country had started turning out to be a threat to NZ, we’d have UNMOTHBALLED
    them, not have to wait five ten years for new planes to come off the factory line, or
    be pushed to buy inferior or expensive planes from someone else. Labour did right.

    • Draco T Bastard 2.1

      It was the right thing to do. Unfortunately, we still haven’t got around to replacing them (No, I don’t mean getting new planes) and still seem to have no plans to do so.

      • ZeeBop 2.1.1

        Peak oil makes hugely expensive jets even more expensive to make, more
        expensive to run, that no modern aggressor would use them in any number.
        The economist has a story that suggests that smaller nations are gravitating to
        cheaper solutions instead of relying on drones and the lock into the US military.
        If I were going to defend NZ I’d go for over the horizon, robosubs, small
        just below the surface, almost like the sea mine of old. Make it look like
        a patch of plastic flotsum. Sprinkle on top unmanned planes, and missile
        batteries on boats, I sure the militrary can think up better solutions that big
        expensives jet squadans.

  3. Bored 3

    Thanks Nick, is a gripper, good read. Interstingly on earthquakes we have had some noise in the capital re strengthening the most at risk buildings..theres a whole debate to be had around that one.

  4. Jeremy Harris 5

    @felix, didn’t his replacement say she fully supported Rodney..?

    • Armchair Critic 5.1

      The quote that is given as showing evidence of her support is:
      I think it is important, particularly in a small party like Act, that the leader has everyone’s total support.And I would do that unreservedly.
      There are a number of ways that could be interpreted.

  5. prism 6

    Another good read just released. The truth behind James Bond! Real people doing dangerous and mysterious tasks! Sounds riveting – 800 pages of it. Book on British spy network MI6 by Prof Keith Jeffery
    ‘MI6 Ð The History of the Secret Intelligence Service 1909-1949’.

    The first-ever official history of MI6 reveals that Britain’s foreign spy agency debated assassinating Nazi leaders, landed a spy wearing a wetsuit over his tux at a casino by the sea and experimented with exploding filing cabinets – but also wrangled with other government departments and had to make do on a shoestring budget.

    http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2010/09/21/1578066/uk-spies-spill-secrets-in-official.html

  6. prism 7

    Carol yes what style, ironic too. The Avengers, sigh, I’m on a nostalgia binge. I enjoyed Maxwell Smart too. And I remember Sapphire and Steel.

    • The Voice of Reason 7.1

      What about The Prisoner, chaps? I am not a number, I am a free man, dem bones and all that.

      As I recall it was never established who number 6 was spying for or which side kidnapped him when he tried to quit. Which was probably the writer’s dig at how riddled with spies, counter spies and double agents British Intelligence was, and presumably, still is.

  7. Pascal's bookie 8

    Check this:

    It has been demonstrated that finches raised by foster parents of a different species of finch will later exhibit a lifelong sexual attraction toward the alien species. One wonders how a child’s sexual imprinting mechanism is affected by forcible racial integration and near continual exposure to media stimuli promoting interracial contact. The most serious implication of human sexual imprinting for our genetic future is that it would establish the destructiveness of school integration, especially in the middle and high-school years. One can only wonder to what degree the advocates of school integration, such as former NAACP attorney Jack Greenberg, were conscious of this scientific concept. It also compounds the culpability of media moguls who deliberately popularize miscegenation in films directed toward adolescents and pre-adolescents. In the midst of this onslaught against our youth, parents need to be reminded that they have a natural obligation, as essential as providing food and shelter, to instill in their children an acceptance of appropriate ethnic boundaries for socialization and for marriage.
    The sociobiological warfare that our youth is subjected to is likely to be even more diabolical since it appears to deliberately exploit a biological theory of sexual imprinting at the critical period of sexual maturity. Movies like this past year’s spate of miscegenationist titles, Save the Last Dance, Crazy / Beautiful and O, a parody of Othello, appear deliberately designed to exploit the critical period of sexual imprinting in their target audiences of white pre-adolescent girls and adolescent young women.

    There is now afoot a conscious effort to de-Europeanize and to re-Judaize Christianity, through scriptural revision, internal treachery and external pressure.
    The importance of applying eugenic measures in the West becomes evident from Richard Lynn’s recent work on Dysgenics and his just-released seminal work Eugenics: A Reassessment.

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/finch-called-atticus.html

    An official candidate for congress for the party of Lincoln, no less. But there ain’t no racism in the GOP, it’s the liberals that are the real racists, you betcha.

    • Vicky32 8.1

      The stupid it burns! And the scary – that is well scary! How on earth can he say those things in public?
      Please, despite his comments, don’t blame Christianity for a nutjob like him…
      Deb

  8. randal 9

    nothing demonstrates the ineptitude of this national government as the bill proposed to stop incarcerated prisoners from voting.
    it is now found to have serious deficiencies that should have been picked up in the committee stages.
    so we now know that national mp’s cant read and comprehend the written word but even worse was the reaction from sandra goudie last night on teevee who wanted to shoot the messenger, a Professor Geddis and then claimed that he couldnt have a say because he wasn’t at the select committee.
    what sandpit did she emerge from?
    her sort of logic you could expect from the opinion columms of twade me but not from an elected representative.

  9. The Voice of Reason 10

    In the excitement around the SuperCity election, readers may be forgiven for forgetting that there are other council elections on at the moment. If I lived in Welly, this is the guy I’d want wearing the mayoral chains, and not just because of his answer to question no7, which suggests he’d have the get up and go the capital so sorely needs:

    http://wellingtonista.com/al-mansell-answers-our-questions

    • comedy 10.1

      So you’ll be voting for Prast in Auckland then ?

      • The Voice of Reason 10.1.1

        Nuh, huh, Ak voters would be nuts to re-elect Banks and Brown is the only alternative.

        But I know Al and while I don’t share his enthusiasm for pharmaceuticals I do like his commitment to his city and its people. His policies are sound and I reckon he’d make a good addition to the council. And he is both honest and witty; rare attributes around most council tables.

    • ennui 10.2

      Damn, I have already voted ..

  10. freedom 11

    and now with the lives of our commonwealth games’ team in his hands, here is our assertive confident, man with a mission leader unable to have an opinion of his own, again
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10675118

    did anyone ever actually explain his job to him?

  11. Draco T Bastard 12

    Despite massive opposition, NZ’s biggest mall approved

    ACC received over 1100 submissions on the enormous development with 68 percent opposed.

    It’s rather amusing reading the justification as well.

    Plans for New Zealand’s largest mall in central Auckland have won approval in part because usage of the existing St Lukes Mall is low and needs to expand, planning commissioners have told the Auckland City Council (ACC).

    It needs to expand because people aren’t going there? I thought that would be an argument to make it smaller.

  12. Draco T Bastard 13

    David Cunliffe over at Red Alert seems to be asking the right questions about the SCF bailout.

    The Chair of the Financial Markets Authority Eastablishment Board, Simon Botherway, now has no choice but to step aside pending the outcome of the Ombudsman’s inquiry into the mangament of his potential conflicts of interest in placing Allan and Jean Hubbard into statutory managment.

    • ennui 13.1

      .. so Key and Kerr both went to Christs College in Christchurch, and have co-directors in the past ..

      I have heard NZ referred to as “the wild west” overseas, not in a complimentary way.

      Keep it coming, David.

  13. grumpy 14

    So, what’s the story with the voter fraud in Auckland? Surprising not to see any coverage on this site.

    • lprent 14.1

      Just the usual idiots getting over-zealous.

      The right wing equivalent is to try to make sure that people can’t vote. Typically by closing the roll months before the election. Or underfunding the election officials, or reducing the polling stations. I see that some of these are underway again under the thin guise of ‘rationalization’

      You’d care to comment on those?

      • grumpy 14.1.1

        Don’t know anything about what you are talking about but as “DEMOCRACY UNDER ATTACK” featured strongly on these pages, I thought you guys would be right onto this.

        • lprent 14.1.1.1

          Do you mean that you think that a few idiots moving peoples vote from one electorate to another constitutes a attack on democracy? There is an easy way to make it disappear of course – institute a MMP system in local body elections. That immediately drops the impact of all of those rorts to virtually zero.

          Of course funding the electoral commission enough that they can locate such problems also gets rid of most of that type of problem as well. Then they can detect it.

          Perhaps you should look at the electoral shenanigans that National inflicted on the population of NZ in the 1990’s so you know what you’re looking for in attacks of democracy. Disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters through fiddling with the election process is far more important. Well unless you’re an idiot more interested in slogans/spin and the appearance of democracy rather than its actual functioning.

          Are you an idiot?

    • Vicky32 14.2

      What voter fraud? I have heard nothing about that, not even on the Right’s darling, TV3..
      Deb

  14. The Chairman 15

    Desperate residents demand answers
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/canterbury-earthquake/4155231/Desperate-residents-demand-answers

    Many of the residents cannot access emergency funding.

    Housing New Zealand clients being forced to pay rent for properties that were uninhabitable.

  15. Bored 17

    How fucking stupid is Stephen Joyce????? Watching the news he has announced that students who did not for the last two years pass 50% of their courses will be unable to get a Student Loan. This is apparently designed to stop the student loan account blowing out. So far so good BUT where the hell do you think these students who cannot afford to go on with their studies go?

    Its simple, they wont get a job (versus 2000 or so applicants for a supermarket pittance in South Auckland recently) so no job, where to? The dole. Thats where the stupidity of this government comes full circle, we save on loans that might be repaid, and spend as much or more on the dole. Which is not recoverable. Nor is the benefit of an education lost. You would have to say to Joyce and his support team, what a pack of thick as pig shit dipsticks. Economic genii no less!

    • NickS 17.1

      And don’t forget Joyce lying about it being made known much earlier on.

    • ianmac 17.2

      Joyce thinks he is very clever. They wanted to get rid of the Student Loan but were too scared to do that upfront. Soooo lets do it by stealth. Both my sons faltered a bit when starting at Uni, but both now have degrees, one with Honours. They might have got knocked out early on by the Uni as well as loosing their Student Loans.

  16. bobo 18

    Gee thanks National since you got in…

    Im paying more for car registration..
    My ACC levy has gone up.
    I have to upgrade to the latest version of Myob $250 just to implement your crappy (taxcuts for the rich) gst change, nice lil earner for Myob I must say if every business is forced to upgrade…. all the compliance costs of course weren’t included in Bill English’s tax cut calculator…

    National Inc “where you pay more for less”

    • KJT 18.1

      Try “cashbook complete”. NZ software. Just had a free upgrade to the new GST version.

    • NickS 18.2

      Wait, Myob is making business pay for what in effect amounts to something that could be fixed by a patch?

      Ahahahahahaha…

      Tell FairGo, if enough people basically know that Myob is ripping them off, it should backfire on them nicely and result in a free patch. Or some enterprising geek will produce a hack which will solve it.

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    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
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  • Not impressed
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The fallacy of the proximity argument.
    Longer term readers may remember my complaining that, as a political scientist, it is burdensome to have non-political scientists wanting to engage me about politics. No layperson would think to approach an astrophysicist and lecture him/her on the finer details of quarks and black holes, but everybody with an opinion ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Where We Stood: Chris Trotter Replies To Stevan Eldred-Grigg.
    Joining The Fight: Stevan Eldred-Grigg's argument for New Zealand staying out of the Second World War fails not only on the hard-headed grounds of preserving the country’s strategic and economic interests; and not just on the soft-hearted grounds of duty and loyalty to the nation that had given New Zealand ...
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  • Universities back the climate strike
    On September 27, School Strike 4 Climate will be striking for a future to pressure the government for meaningful climate action. This time, they've asked adults to join them. And now, Lincoln University and Victoria University of Wellington have signed on:Victoria University of Wellington has joined Lincoln University in endorsing ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Another constitutional outrage
    Another day, another constitutional outrage in the UK. This time, the government is saying that if parliament passes a law to stop Brexit before being prorogued, they may just ignore it:A senior cabinet minister has suggested Boris Johnson could defy legislation to prevent a no-deal Brexit if it is forced ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ending dairy in Canterbury
    Environment Canterbury has finally proposed nitrogen limits to stop dairy farmers from poisoning Christchurch's water supply. And naturally, farmers are whining about it:A proposed move by Environment Canterbury (ECan) to protect Christchurch's drinking water by setting tough – some would say, draconian – nitrate reductions in the decades ahead and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Is National the party of climate arson?
    The Zero Carbon Bill is currently before select committee. While its targets are weak, its a generally sensible bill that promises to establish a long-term framework to guide emissions reductions. But National hasn't made up its mind on whether it will support it - and according to Andrea Vance in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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