Open mike 29/10/2020

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1. Pat 1

   29 October 2020 at 6:31 am

   "The international team onboard the Russian research ship R/V Akademik Keldysh said most of the bubbles were currently dissolving in the water but methane levels at the surface were four to eight times what would normally be expected and this was venting into the atmosphere.

   “At this moment, there is unlikely to be any major impact on global warming, but the point is that this process has now been triggered. This East Siberian slope methane hydrate system has been perturbed and the process will be ongoing,” said the Swedish scientist Örjan Gustafsson, of Stockholm University, in a satellite call from the vessel."

   https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/27/sleeping-giant-arctic-methane-deposits-starting-to-release-scientists-find

   Feedback loop
2. Andre 2

   29 October 2020 at 6:34 am

   Don't try this at home, kids. It won't work for you.

   But if you've ever wondered how to get let off of paying back $287 million in loans – it's easy. All ya gotta do is be a sufficiently obnoxious Tangerine Nazi Rapeclown with a big enough platform to be abusive from, and they'll decide it's just not worth the aggravation.

   The key line there is this: "Rather than warring with a notoriously litigious and headline-seeking client, lenders cut Mr. Trump slack — exactly what he seemed to have been counting on."

   Which means this: Donald Trump was such a public bully that the lenders preferred to work to eat the debt (or a large portion of it) rather than risk a fight with him because, well, they had made the calculation it simply wasn't worth it.

   Which, judging from Trump's record of litigiousness, wasn't the worst decision.

   https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/donald-trump-loans-debt-new-york-times/index.html
   • Treetop 2.1

     29 October 2020 at 8:35 am

     Will Trump sue people for what they will say about him when he is voted out from the White House?

     The list will be long and he will be kept busy.
     • Ad 2.1.1

       29 October 2020 at 9:26 am

       Depends how effectively you can sue from jail.
     • Tricledrown 2.1.2

       29 October 2020 at 9:50 am

       Trump is bankrupt again he has frittered away his vast inheritance and only ran for presidency to bolster his brand name in order to resurrect his failing businesses.

       He is going to be indicted on sex crimes treason corruption.

       How many of his close aides have been prosecuted and put in jail.
       • Treetop 2.1.2.1

         29 October 2020 at 1:12 pm

         Morally bankrupt for years and addicted to his own personal causes without any regard for others.
3. Tricledrown 3

   29 October 2020 at 11:20 am

   Marcus Rashford for UK PM
   • greywarshark 3.1

     29 October 2020 at 11:33 am

     Who what why? This one? https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/oct/28/marcus-rashford-petition-to-end-child-food-poverty-signed-by-over-1m-people
4. greywarshark 4

   29 October 2020 at 11:23 am

   Scud will be watching this no doubt. It's a summing up of Ron Mark's ministerial role and farewell to him.

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/429383/uncertainty-around-billions-in-defence-force-spending

   But the army veteran had a busy three years, introducing a $20 billion capability plan and confirming two major aircraft purchases worth billions of dollars to replace fleets from the 1960s.
   • Scud 4.1

     29 October 2020 at 12:40 pm

     Well if NZ Labour do delay the 1st of the 2 New Landing Ships which well be fitted with a Docking Well, which will allow the NZDF to conduct ship to shore transfers up to Sea State 7 as the current Landing Support Ship L421 (Canterbury) can only do Ship to Shore transfers up to Sea State 1 and even its dependant on the wind especially in expose coastlines like the West Coast in the SI and the East Coast from Gizzy to Whakatane.

     And the new Southern Ocean Patrol Vessel, because the current 2 in service OPV's are no longer fit for purpose to undertaking Southern Ocean Patrols these days due to CC as the sea conditions down Sth are getting rough and more dangerous every yr. Even the Navy says you need a ship that is at least 115m long and a beam of 25-30m with a Polar Sea rating of 4 or greater to safety operate in the Southern Ocean these days. The Navy tired to explain this to the last Labour Alliance Government with Protect Projector in the 2000's and they were told to piss off.

     Expanding the Army will allow any NZG of the day to mount two concurrent missions for example a Timor like Peacekeeping Missions which was a Chap7 UN Peacekeeping Mission and a HADR within NZ or in the Sth Pacific Region. Without causing manpower and equipment shortages as what happen with the NZDF deployment to East Timor back in 99 early 2000's.

     If NZ Labour does delay the next step in the NZDF $20B Capability Plan, then we know that NZ Labour doesn't give a shit about CC, Regional NZ if they are hit with a CC weather event or the Sth Pacific Region or the Antarctic/ Southern Ocean and Peacekeeping Operations
     • greywarshark 4.1.1

       29 October 2020 at 2:11 pm

       It seems to me in this time of lunacy that we need to get teenagers working and living away from homes that are degenerate. We can't admit how bad they are, because we don't want to care about people really. Pick youngsters early like the sports people are doing already, and send them for training during school hours to an educational entity that provides them with high standards of care and a balanced education.

       Job in the navy 99% sure if they can train and prove themselves. It will be 100% better than most of the youngsters will have now. That will provide the young recruits who will sign up for at least five years or buy themselves out. That will give them great technical skills and the Navy ready to deal with CC. Quite an adventurous life.

       Their training can be informed by Rob Hewitt, who is the redoubtable character who remained in the sea for three days and says he has changed his life and thinking after recovery.

       Oct.2019 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/where-are-they-now-rob-hewitt-the-man-who-survived-75-hours-alone-at-sea/EIIIMKCOJSVCUJS2RTX7CLHHKY/
       Hewitt is now on the board of Water Safety New Zealand and works for the body as a Māori water safety advocate and educator.
       His role is all about connecting health and wellbeing around the water to Maori and Pacific Island people. His goal – to prevent drownings any way he can.

       "I talk to them about putting on their spiritual lifejacket before their actual lifejacket," he explained.
       "That could be saying a karakia before going into the water, telling someone where you're going, checking your gear, checking the environment, the weather before you put that actual lifejacket on.
       "I'm alive and everything is good – if you're got a story to tell then people are going to listen."

       Sep.20 https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/122849436/ocean-survivor-rob-hewitt-says-you-never-want-to-give-up

       Dec 2019 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rob-hewitt-involved-in-cook-strait-rescue-of-struggling-diver/OND2MG54I62VXDZLI6JUWVUAE4/

       So that's the personnel idea. You've got the heavy stuff worked out – NZ should start now I think.
5. ianmac 5

   29 October 2020 at 11:24 am

   I watched a report of people from within the White House publishing the inside story. Dis function, mismanagement, lies etc The senior person spoke of the work that the insiders do to prevent some of the Trump errors and his stupid actions. For example one person whisked a paper ready for signing from off the President's desk. It was to act against South Korea. The President never noticed that it was missing.

   The article pointed out that there were some honourable conscientious people working there who were working to minimise the Trump harm.

   (I stumbled on it on You Tube but don't know how to find it again.)
   • greywarshark 5.1

     29 October 2020 at 11:30 am

     Going back to Reagans days there were jokes? about him pushing the red button to start off nuclear arming by accident. And later there were reports of commander/s withholding action and not following procedure till further confirmation which saved inflammatory hostile attack/s from happening. The USA deserves a better system of government. The old one is past its use-by date.
     • UncookedSelachimorpha 5.1.1

       29 October 2020 at 1:17 pm

       Not just jokes! At about 5:05

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBIa8z_Mts
       • Gabby 5.1.1.1

         29 October 2020 at 3:10 pm

         What?
       • Phillip ure 5.1.1.2

         29 October 2020 at 4:19 pm

         Aural-alert..!..it's genesis..(shudder..!..)..with Phil collins doing vocals..(double-shudder..!)..best to watch with sound on mute..I find ..
6. greywarshark 6

   29 October 2020 at 11:26 am

   Detail and background information about coastline effects of climate change sea rise etc and RMA. Great interview from Kathryn Ryan,

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018770420/climate-impact-how-will-the-new-government-deal-with-managed-retreat
7. Pat 7

   29 October 2020 at 11:30 am

   A soundly reasoned argument for the Greens accepting a deal by Chris trotter, though it is predicated on the specific policy action Labour subsequently enacts this term….hopefully that disclosure is not too far in the offing.

   https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2020/10/29/a-leap-of-faith-in-labours-direction-of-travel/
   • Phillip ure 7.1

     29 October 2020 at 4:33 pm

     I often disagree with chris trotter..but he makes perfect sense here…how a working arrangement will be best for both labour and the greens…especially looking forward to 2023. .which is what they must do..and as for those advocating the greens sit in opposition…shouting at labour ..this is ill thought-out…the time for political posturing is over…(the opposition-case could have been made for times in the past and I would have supported it then)..but this is the time/opportunity for meaningful action…on many issues dear to the greens…I would prefer they just get on with it (there is so much to do)..and re any moves to block/stop that by the party-membership..?…please don't..(think ‘ill thoughtout’..)(disclaimer:apart from one election..when I voted for Mana..I have voted for the greens from day one ..)
     • Pat 7.1.1

       29 October 2020 at 6:36 pm

       I too would wish they just get on with it….but that depends on what the 'it' is
8. greywarshark 8

   29 October 2020 at 4:01 pm

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/429422/man-who-filmed-woman-in-kmart-changing-room-sentenced-to-community-work
   Perhaps he can get a job packing women's bras and pants. That may satisfy his desires to feel closer to the female body.

   and
   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/429423/man-to-appear-in-court-after-five-women-attacked
   What punishment will this guy get?
9. greywarshark 9

   29 October 2020 at 4:25 pm

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/429394/greater-wellington-regional-council-approves-fare-increase-on-public-transport
   A 1.5 percent price hike will be imposed on Wellington public transport users from February next year.

   So how much in Wellington now. This on google.
   How much does the bus cost in Wellington?
   If you don't catch the bus or train often you can pay by cash, however paying in cash is at least 25% more expensive than Snapper; discounts and concessions do not apply to cash except for child fare.
   Cash fares.
   Number of zones travelled –
   AdultChild 1 $2.50$1.50 . 2 $4.00$2.00
   3 $5.00$2.50 . 4 $5.50$3.00

   and there are more zones. So travel home/work/home for 4 zones $11 per day and for 5 day week $55. That's a burden for a low paid worker. Multiplied for a working couple with children to get to school, what a burden.
   • Patricia 2 9.1

     29 October 2020 at 9:17 pm

     Here in Auckland you now cannot travel using cash ; produce the AT Hop Card or walk. When travel was free during lockdown if you did not have an AT Hop Card then no bus or train travel. However some train managers and bus drivers took pity on the customers and turned a blind eye.
10. DS 10

    29 October 2020 at 7:58 pm

    A wee worry, to put it mildly:

    In the West Coast section of West Coast-Tasman, National won the candidate vote 43%-40%. In 2017, Labour had won it 49%-34%… which makes for a 9% swing to National. In an election where there was a 10% nationwide candidate swing to Labour.

    Damien O'Connor survived because the Tasman part of the seat swung to Labour by 5%… but what the hell happened on the Coast these past three years?

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