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RNZ: The 9th floor – Shipley

Written By: - Date published: 10:22 am, April 28th, 2017 - 85 comments
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Guyon Espiner’s excellent RNZ series The 9th Floor, consists of interviews with five ex NZ PMs: Geoffrey Palmer, Mike Moore, Jim Bolger, Jenny Shipley, Helen Clark.

Here’s Jenny Shipley:

The Challenger – Jenny Shipley

In part four of The 9th Floor, Guyon Espiner talks to Dame Jenny Shipley about being the first woman Prime Minister, plus coups and coalitions, welfare reform and Winston Peters. And, above all, her commitment to change.

Jenny Shipley evoked strong responses from New Zealanders during her time in politics and I suspect that, with her new comments about “middle class welfare” and working with Winston Peters, she is about to do so again.

During the day we spent with Shipley she said New Zealand needs to take the “blowtorch” to middle class welfare, with student allowances and healthcare areas where middle and higher income earners should pay more. She finds it “morally bankrupt” that the country doesn’t have an honest discussion about this and that she personally feels “sick” that on her income she can’t opt out of subsidised health care.

“Winston could have been Prime Minister but for want of himself. His complexity often got ahead of his capability. Watching him on a good day he was brilliant,” she says. “He was an 85 percent outstanding leader. And the 15 percent absolutely crippled him because he would get so myopically preoccupied with a diversion that it took away his capability and intent on the main goal.”

There is one hint of a regret towards the end of the interview – and it’s a critical one – but largely Shipley is unrepentant and puts the case for her legacy forcefully. Her argument for many of the toughest cuts National made in the ’90s boils down to this: “We can’t squander a future generation’s chance, just because we are lazy or it is hard”. …

Check out RNZ for the full interview.


85 comments on “RNZ: The 9th floor – Shipley ”

  1. greywarshark 1

    Get ready you middle class. You used to be the best thing since sliced bread and the money grabbers gravitate to the gravy train of the growing middle class of foreign developing nations. But will strip their own middle class down to their patched undies.

    First they came for the poor and struggling.
    Then they came for the and semi-low skilled workers.
    Then they came for the students trying to acquire the required skills.
    Then they came for the graduates looking for a job paying sufficiently
    for living and repayment of debt.
    Then they increased GST and lowered higher salary income tax.
    Then they encouraged business to help itself to assets.
    Then they encouraged foreign investment/migration and house
    purchases as foreigners’ asset sinks.
    Then they increased education costs for children’s learning.
    Then they introduced alternative schools with few standards or checks
    (but provision of cheques.)
    Then they cut back on the health budget.
    Then they refused dignified dying of choice and encouraged private
    provision of retirement homes.

    Then they start diminishing the middle class access to health care and
    other universal government services.
    And the reptilian female politician type, even deadlier than the male,
    says with forked tongue that as she is doing all right, let’s pull the plug
    on the rest of the country. There is good business for private entities
    still available catering to those who actually can afford a life.

    I don’t think there are huge numbers earning at the middle class level anyway.

    (Remember: http://www.stats.govt.nz/Census/2013-census/profile-and-summary-reports/quickstats-income/personal-income.aspx
    Those receiving over $50,000 were in 2013 about 25% of NZ population. So 75% were on less total income. $40-$50,000 were at 8%, $25-$40,000 were 20%, .)

    2015 – However, CTU economist Bill Rosenberg said jobs advertised on Seek were high paying and not typical of the workforce, as illustrated by offical job figures released last week.
    “Statistics New Zealand shows the average wage annualised would be approximately $49,000 – [Seek’s data] is considerably above what the accepted general survey shows.
    “Even the average wage or salary is a bit misleading in itself because it tends to [be] biased upwards by the very high salaries that some people get.”
    According to Statistic New Zealand’s labour market statistics showed the average average ordinary time hourly earnings was $29.01 for the June quarter, up 0.8 percent on the previous quarter.

    KFC protest:
    KFC Supervisor are also expected to train KFC cooks and to be able to do the cooks job if needed. Last year the company decided (without consulting the union) to pay cooks and extra $2.50 an hour allowance and the result is that the Supervisors, who are mostly women, end up being paid $1.80 an hour less than the cooks, who are mostly male, despite Supervisors being more qualified and having far more responsibilities.

    Restaurant Brand Workers strike

    • Gosman 1.1

      Ummm… you are aware that she USED to be the PM. She isn’t even in politics any more.

      • North 1.1.1

        Yeah. She was. Never elected. The prime ministerial remnant of an internecine madness to shame CV. Can’t believe a word of her. Pious. Of positive/admirable legacy she has none. She’ll come out flat in support of things we all know her innards were never with……..she’s a former PM seeking relevance in the ‘today’. And you reckon she’s no longer ‘in’ politics Gosman ? Get real Burton…….!

      • WILD KATIPO 1.1.2

        Interesting that at the same time we were lambasting the Fijian coup we had a coup of our own occur right under our noses when Shipley rolled Bolger . From memory she waited until he was out of the country.

        She was an illegitimate Prime Minister and among some of the most viscous neo liberal perpetrators this country has ever known barring other individuals such as Ruth Richardson. That title ‘ Dame’ should be stripped from her and instead she should be among a number dragged before our courts on charges of criminal conspiracy to commit economic sabotage and grand theft of the Commons wealth.

        That’s who Jenny Shipley is and what she was ever about.

        • red-blooded

          Jenny shipley was awful, and a terrible PM. She didn’t lead a “coup”, however – she lead a successful leadership challenge. There was no disruption to government or to our constitution (such as it is). We had elected a National government (ergh!) and we continued to be ruled by National until the election that saw us dump them in 1999. The election wasn’t delayed and normal processes were followed.

          In NZ we don’t have presidents, ewe have prime ministers. A PM isn’t directly elected in a personal endorsement by the general public, like a president; we elect a political party and they (the caucus or – in the case of the modern Labour Party and The Greens – the wider party membership) are the ones who decide who their leader is.

          While we sometimes use the word “coup” as a metaphor for a leadership challenge, we shouldn’t get carried away with silly comparisons like this. The leaders of the two coups in Fiji around that time deposed legitimately-elected governments, seized power by force, suspended the country’s constitution…etc. (BTW, you do know that there was no coup in Fiji while Shipley was PM? The ’87 coup had largely run its course and Fiji was re-admitted to the Commonwealth in ’97 – the same year Shipley became PM, and the 2000 coup occurred the year after she was dumped.)

          • WILD KATIPO

            True about the NZ public doesn’t ‘ elect’ a PM , … following along with the Westminster tradition, yes. The Governor General gives the final tick of official approval if its proven the individual concerned has the numbers.

            However , a peaceful coup is still a coup. And there are countless numbers of political party’s who had the same thing happen to them yet still remained intact and in power…And I believe it was quite rich to have been criticizing the Fijians at the time and waving our fingers in self righteousness while we had a usurper such as Shipley right under our noses.

            Also , the fact Shipley timed her bid after Bolger left the country – still not ”illegal’ per se’ but definitely demonstrating the lack of scruples and her personal attributes regards her character.

            I also recall that this country had ongoing tensions over the military leaders of Fiji for most of that time and criticized them for their undemocratic assuming of power. Fiji went through several leaders over that time period and relations were more often and not frosty with them.

            A few years back there was almost a spate of what were dubbed’ waka jumpers’. Moves were made to prevent that sort of behavior because it undermined the public’s confidence in who they had voted for. Essentially this was the same sort of undermining of the public understanding of who they assumed would be leading the party they voted for.

            Shipley grossly undermined the public confidence and its perception of stability in Govt by rolling Bolger.

            • red-blooded

              “A coup d’état (/ˌkuː deɪˈtɑː/ About this sound listen (help·info); French: [ku.de.ta]), also known simply as a coup (/kuː/), a putsch (/pʊtʃ/), or an overthrow, is the illegal and overt seizure of a state by the military or other elites within the state apparatus.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

              Shipley’s act was not illegal. She convinced the majority of her caucus that she would be a better leader than Bolger, and they elected her. She was a member of an “elite within the state apparatus”, but only because she was elected – first by the voters in her electorate and then by her fellow members of the National Party caucus.

              It wasn’t a coup when Moore replaced Palmer, and it wasn’t a coup when Shipley replaced Bolger.

              And yes, there had been ongoing tensions with the military-based (but, by then, elected) Figian government led by Rabuka and Mara. Not surprising, as they had deposed a democratically elected government, introduced a constitution that gave precedence to indigenous Fijians over others and created a climate of fear that saw thousands of Fijian Indians flee the country. Having said that, by the time Shipley took over they were being accepted as the new government and normal diplomatic ties were being resumed.

              As for the “waka-jumping” issue, my recollection is that this related to people who were elected on party lists, but then changed parties. They had no personal mandate to be in parliament and by changing parties they were altering the percentage of MPs aligned to the various parties, thereby undermining the outcome of the most recent election. Not particularly relevant to Shipley. NZ had elected a national government and continued to have one. The percentage of MPs aligned to the various parties stayed the same.

              • Some good points.

                I think we could look at Italy and even Australia as other examples of deposed leaders being rolled yet the party’s staying the same. I daresay Shipley did have the numbers, and I seem to recall some attempts were made against Muldoons position as well before that.

                But there is a world of difference between widespread and popular dislike by the citizenry and the intervention by the Governor General to either dissolve a govt or replace a PM. In this country it has been far too easy for people to usurp a leader simply because they have their own motives or agendas to push for doing so.

                This was the case with Shipley.

                Bolger was seen as more moderate and Shipley was growing increasingly frustrated with Bolgers moderate leadership. Shipley , – by contrast , – wanted to push through her hard right wing neo liberal dogma – a dogma that ultimately – was
                demonstrated that was not what the people wanted in the first place at all.

                Indeed , it was as a direct result of the huge social turmoil introduced by the 4th Labour govt that caused the swing to National in the first place. People did not want these so called ‘ reforms’ and assets sales driven by Rogernomic’s.

                And by and large – they still don’t. It is still being foisted on us under the tenuous mandate quoted simply because a govt gets voted in.

                And just because they are voted in does not give them an automatic public endorsement of all their policy’s either.

                John Keys unpopular state owned housing sales are a case in point.

                And in that , … even though we may not be able to define it currently as being an ‘ illegal ‘ usurping of power , – if it had been put to the democratic vote of the citizenry in the first place as it should have been , – chances are Bolger would have remained in power and Shipley would have been demoted.

                • It is also something feared by many of these subversive types pushing their agendas that run contrary to the popular opinion that they fear a certain thing called :


                  Binding Citizens Initiated Referenda.

                  What this country currently sorely lacks is an easily accessed Constitution and the regular use of Binding Citizens Initiated Referenda to ensure opportunists like Shipley cannot just simply assume power and start perversely ramming through unpopular and ideologically driven initiatives that serve the interests of only a small clique to the detriment of the majority.

                  • red-blooded

                    The majority voted to repeal the “anti-smacking legislation”. Would you have wanted that to be binding?

                    • I think you will agree that constitutional issues are of a different nature altogether than pieces of legislation introduced by an MP such as the anti smacking bill by Sue Bradford.

                      The ‘ anti smacking bill’ does not directly affect our parliamentary processes in the same way that was demonstrated by Shipleys actions.

                    • KJT

                      That is the stupidest argument yet against BCIR.
                      One referendum didn’t go my way so I am against them.
                      Why allow voting on anything, then.
                      Obviously “the majority cannot be trusted to be sensible”.

                • red-blooded

                  Hey, let’s remember that it was Bolger who appointed Richardson and ushered in the Mother of All Budgets and the Employment Contracts Act, plus selling off state housing. He was actually pretty damn extreme and the only reason that he pulled back a bit was that he had to rely on a coalition in his second term. Plus, he’d done a lot of the big stuff by then.

                  As for your “tenuous mandate simply because a govt gets voted in” line, I guess that could be seen as reasonable when a government is voted in and then flip flops on big issues or acts on an agenda that wasn’t revealed before the election (and yes, I am thinking of the first term of the 4th Labour government, although I also know that they were confronted with a series of realities that hadn’t been revealed to them before the election and I think there was a certain amount of panic motivating some of their big decisions), however there was nothing secret or unexpected about the policies of the Bolger-Shipley government. NZers knew what they were voting for and the majority voted for the Nats and their policies. Anyone who didn’t know what that would entail hadn’t been paying attention.

                  • ”Bolger who appointed Richardson and ushered in the Mother of All Budgets and the Employment Contracts Act, plus selling off state housing. He was actually pretty damn extreme and the only reason that he pulled back a bit was that he had to rely on a coalition in his second term. Plus, he’d done a lot of the big stuff by then.”


                    Indeed he did appoint Richardson. And under the influence of the Business Roundtable and such other groups , … the Employment Contracts Act was drawn up.

                    As a side note , – and a very pertinent one indeed , – both Roger Douglas AND Ruth Richardson were active sitting board members of the Mont Pelerin Society at the time. The relevance of that is tremendous to come to terms with because it was from the Mont Pelerin Society that we had such influential neo liberal economist luminaries such as Milton Freidman.

                    Anyone who does not take those facts into account is certainly not paying attention even now to gain a full historical context of the extreme motivations of these people and their assault on our Keynesian based Social Democracy .

                    It must be remembered that the distaste which so many of the general public felt against Rogernomic’s led many to vote National not from a continuation of those policy’s – but in hope of slowing down or lessening them or even eradicating them.

                    To say otherwise would be to say the country wasted several millions on a pointless political exercise holding a general election when they could have saved all that waste of resources and simply retained the Labour govt and carried on with the ‘ reforms’ of Roger Douglas…

                    • Mont Pelerin Society Board Members.

                      2016-2018 Board of Directors
                      Officers of the MPS

                      Peter J. Boettke, United States

                      Vice President
                      Pedro Schwartz Giron, Spain

                      Eamonn Butler, United Kingdom

                      J.R. Clark (Jeff), United States

                      Executive Committee

                      Peter J. Boettke, United States
                      Eamonn Butler, United Kingdom
                      J.R. Clark (Jeff), United States
                      Pedro Schwartz Giron, Spain

                      Yuko Arayama, Japan
                      Jeff Bennett, Australia
                      Gabriel Calzada, Guatemala
                      Allan Meltzer, United States
                      Nils Karlson, Sweden

                      Ruth Richardson, New Zealand <————————————————

                      John Taylor, United States
                      Margaret Tse, Brazil


                      An excerpt from this website …

                      New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?

                      Roger and Ruth, more in common than just finance
                      National's Ruth Richardson's New Right policies were exactly the same as Labour's Roger Douglas' New Right policies because they were policies driven by the Mont Pelerin Society. It should have been no surprise, in 1989 a Mont pelerin front group the Centre for Independent Studies organised a conference in Christchurch to review progress of deregulation and privatisation of New Zealand. The keynote speaker was Roger Douglas and he was warmly supported by Ruth Richardson: so there they were together, Labour's Roger and National's Ruth united in their New Right faith.
                      Roger Douglas was a member of the Mont Pelerin Society, as was Roger Kerr of the Business Roundtable. However Ruth Richardson was not, as late as 1996 in the words of Lord Harris, longtime head of the Mont Pelerin's main think tank the Institute of Economic Affairs in London. "But Ruth Richardson isn't a member, but she used to come over here and extract ideas and so forth" This has all changed, when she was replaced as finance minister by Bill Birch, Ruth Richardson left National and joined the ACT party which had been started by Roger Douglas, She became, not only a Mont Pelerin Member, but a director of that society.
                      The ACT party is at this time, trying to convince New Zealanders to vote for them and get Roger Douglas back into Parliament, preferably as finance minister in a National/ ACT coalition government. The New Right NEVER GIVE UP!
                      Back in the 2005 New Zealand General election, the leader of the National Party was the former Reserve Bank governor, Don Brash who had been introduced to politics by Roger Kerr of the Business Roundtable. Don Brash was looked on as a rather honest if naive politician but was ousted when leaked emails showed he had dealings with a group of Exclusive Brethren Millionaires who were waging a campaign against the Greens even though he denied he had. In a speech in London in 1996, Don Brash said "I was involved with Roger Douglas from the beginning of the reforms …and they were never completed. The New Right NEVER GIVE UP! Who have they chosen THIS TIME?
                      The average New Zealander can't possibly know who the next New Right puppet will be, but one thing they can be sure of, is that that person will be saying anything, offering everything to ensure they get elected and once the New Right get into power, it will be 1984 all over again.

                      No more "Left" versus "Right"
                      National's Ruth Richardson's New Right policies were exactly the same as Labour's Roger Douglas' New Right policies because they were given to them by the Business Roundtable who in turn had received them from the Mont Pelerin Society, a London based group of the very rich who have descended from the land owning nobles who had peasants farming their lands while they lived the high life, and they kept the peasants in their place by ensuring they never had the means to improve their lot. Unfortunately for them, the industrial revolution gave these peasants the chance to improve their lot, which took a huge amount of power from the ruling class. The aim of this society is to destroy the middle class (or the middle income earner) and bring back the two-class society. The Rich get Richer and the Poor get Poorer is no myth, it is by design and it is happening!

                      Keep the New Right out of power
                      The New Right have lost their grip on New Zealand since the Election of the fourth Labour Government in 1999, but they have never given up, why would they? They have too much to gain. Out of $15.322 billion worth of privatised former New Zealand state assets, companies connected with the Mont Pelerin Society's main New Zealand front, the Business Roundtable, bought an astounding $12.542 billion, or about 82% of the total. No wonder they are fervent believers in Mont Pelerin's "free market" which has so handsomely lined their pockets, while destroying the nation
                      The MMP voting system has made it harder for single political parties to have an overwhelming majority and this has made it harder for the New Right to implement their agenda.
                      Watch out for new moves to re-introduce 'First past the post' voting again.

                      Who Is The Mont Pelerin Society ?
                      This looting and destruction of the nation-state of New Zealand was planned and implemented by the London-based Mont Pelerin Society.

                      In 1947, Mont Pelerin founder von Hayek lamented that the war had drastically strengthened nation-states, which must be replaced, he said, with the classic, anti-state free trade "liberalism" of eighteenth and nineteenth century Britain.

                      Many of those continental Europeans present, like von Hayek, carried the prefix "von" before their surnames, signifying that they came from the noble families which had governed Europe for centuries.

                      Mont Pelerin shared the same "conservative revolution" philosophy as the Nazis. It also shared some of the same personnel. For instance, Max von Thurn und Taxis was a sponsor of von Hayek and his new society. Thurn und Taxis' family had founded another society in southern Germany before World War 1, which was composed entirely of aristocrats, known as the Thule Society. Thule in turn formed a special "workers division" known as the "National Socialist German Workers Party" (NSDAP). The NSDAP, into which an Austrian corporal named Adolf Hitler was recruited, later became better known by the abbreviated version of its name, the "Nazis." In 1989, Max von Thurn und Taxis attended a meeting of his Mont Pelerin Society in Christchurch, New Zealand, to judge, first hand, the results of the "worlds most radical free market revolution."

                    • You have seemed to have disappeared, Red- blooded.

                      I would say that you are nothing more than an apologist for the new right.

                      Either that or are a naive useful stooge for them.

                      And that has been your motivation on this blogsite. It mildly annoys me that you have a penchant for dredging up minor points to put down others and blandly rant on about peripheral subjects yet when confronted with an historical set of facts that contradicts your right wing views you hide.

                      Don’t do that again , please . Unless you estimate you have what it takes to present a proper case against moderate nationalism and Keynesian economics and the reasons you have for opposing it.

                      In which case present your case if you can.

                      I resent your insulting implications that I am somehow some sort of closet totalitarian.

  2. Enough is Enough 2


    Bolger seems to have mellowed in his old age while Shipley if anything is more of rabid right wing dog than she was in 99

  3. keepcalmcarryon 3

    Horrible [r0b: deleted] is horrible.
    Nothing to see here.

    • keepcalmcarryon 3.1

      Fair enough rob I should have said “horrible rabid right wing dog”, that being acceptable.
      No verbal abuse she gets compares to what she did to my country.

  4. Another hypocrite ex PM – seems like they are all like that – do as I say not as I do. Relegated to the footnotes of history is probably generous for her.

  5. gsays 5


    • Tarquin 5.1

      Exactly. You would think she would be too embarrassed to show up after that debacle. Worst prime minister of a generation.

      • Gosman 5.1.1

        I thought that was reserved for John Key?

        • DS

          Nah. Key’s merely mediocre, even for a Nat. Worse than Holyoake, Bolger, and Muldoon, better than Marshall, Shipley, and Holland.

          • WILD KATIPO

            But Key , like Shipley ,… was still a neo liberal. Personal quality’s aside – its what all these subversives maintained as an ideological and political consensus that marks them all out as being as bad as each other.

            I am surprised these criminals are even getting serious air time complete with an almost misty haze soft camera lighting to aid them in helping to pull on peoples heartstrings to garner a sympathetic nostalgic hearing for them.

            You could apply the same sort of principles to people like Jeffrey Dalmer and manage to soften the profile for public consumption.

            These neo liberals were criminals and nothing more and this whole series of interviews smacks of someone using them to bolster a dying ideology and shore up against public sentiment and 33 years of evidence of the abject failure of neo liberalism and its exponents.

            And was and still is nothing more than an ideology designed to plunder the unearned wealth of the Commons from formerly wealthy country’s such as New Zealand.

            Therefore individuals such as Shipley and her colleagues responsible should be dragged before our courts on charges of national economic sabotage – not paraded around like some teary eyed elder states-person with anything of value to say about the nation she helped to wreck.

            • red-blooded

              WK, we can’t make up criminal charges retrospectively and prosecute people for things that weren’t actually against the law. You and i might both disagree with the policies of Shipley and others, but we don’t get to jail people for having and acting upon different political viewpoints from us. That smacks of totalitarianism. Dial it back a bit, eh?

              • Laws change and and so too can the retrospective charging of that law.

                The fact that the policy’s enacted did not appear at first to cause anyone any direct physical harm , doesn’t mean to say harm wasn’t present as a direct result of those policy’s.

                And while it may be more difficult to prove direct correlation , we can easily point to two recent examples where people did suffer harm. One was a small toddler in a state house who died of totally preventable causes more attributable to third world conditions” , and the other was a security officer who died also because of the same damp conditions and as a result of poverty.

                It is hypocritical to criticize many of the excesses of the historical monarchy’s of Europe and their callous disregard for the population and then to turn a blind eye to modern examples which in effect are exactly the same.

                And while this didn’t happen under Shipley but under Keys govt , it was the same ideology that ultimately contributed largely that situation . As it does now with family’s sleeping in cars and many other instances of poverty . If you are quite happy to not work at outlawing facets of this ideology and more content to simply constantly bleat about it and provide no real answer on an online forum then fair enough.

                But as I said above , a definition needs to be officially drawn up and any political party’s attempting to introduce or practice that ideology outlawed. If not , at least many of the extremes of that ideology to be regulated to prevent the sort of societal harm neo liberalism has caused for the last 3 decades.

                • red-blooded

                  Sorry, but this is:
                  1) Ridiculous, and
                  2) Dangerous.

                  If Trump manages to make abortion illegal again in the US, will you see it as OK for doctors who’ve performed abortions and women who’ve had abortions in the decades in which it’s been legal to be prosecuted and punished?

                  How about punishing atheists? After all, plenty of conservative Christians believe that atheism and Satanism are pretty much the same thing, and do significant damage to society. After that, who should be punished next? Muslims? Jews? Communists?

                  Are you a fan of McCarthyism, WK? Witch hunts? The Cultural Revolution? Pol Pot? Because your “let’s root out those who believe in evil and punish them for their beliefs” line sounds eerily familiar…

                  (And no, I’m not a fan of neo-liberalism, but I’m not a fan of totalitarianism either. Can you say the same thing?)

                  • If you persist in supporting moves that do not check the movement of people like Shipley and Douglas and their ilk , then you become an unwitting tacit supporter of totalitarianism through ignorance of totalitarianism and just how it operates.

                    Another word for that is being called an ignorant willing stooge.

                    I certainly hope you aspire to not being that and guarding the fragile democracy we have remaining…

                    Please read this before carrying on implying I am some sort of closet Totalitarian . As I have said before , I am a moderate nationalist and for good reason as well. As you shall see when you read the contents of this link.

                    New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?

                    • red-blooded

                      Really? You link is from the 1990’s. It says the only opposition to the New Right are in The Alliance! Now, as it happens, I used to vote Alliance, but I realise that our political landscape has shifted quite a bit since their time. No mention of the Greens, or Mana, and frankly the ideas about Labour are decades out of date.

                      Also, please note I’m not implying that you’re a closest totalitarian because of your opposition to neo-liberalism: I’m openly stating that you’re espousing totalitarian ideas because you want to punish Thought Criminals and to make retrospective laws to lock people up for doing things that were legal and that were democratically endorsed.

                      Shipley, Douglas etc were certainly ideologues and you and I agree that they did real damage to NZ’s social fabric. They were not totalitarians, though. They may have believed that There Is No Alternative, and they certainly argued this line and tried to get us all to swallow it, but they were democratically elected and they accepted it when they were democratically replaced.

                      I’m calling time on this discussion. If you want the last word, go for it. Just remember, I’m not endorsing anything that Shipley did – I can’t stand the woman and I think her beliefs are awful. I would judge her even more harshly if she had tried to punish people who disagreed with her political philosophy or had made laws to punish people retrospectively, though. After all, if you think it’s OK for one side of the political spectrum to do this, then surely you couldn’t object if the other side were to do the same thing?

                    • Are you quite foolish ?

                      And do you not realize the Mont Pelerin Society still exists and is every bit as relevant now as it was then?

                      Do you have a mental block when confronted with obvious facts and motivations of groups- yet only when it suits your diatribe?

                      ” Thought Criminals ”

                      Interesting term you use . Again. Do you endorse Mont Pelerin thinking? Do you feel comfortable with the type of people who make that organisation up? Do you support Hyecks economic theory’s and his lackey Milton Freideman?

                      I find your term ‘ Thought Criminals ‘ interesting. Where does that stop for you?

                      Are you saying NAZISM is something we should tolerate?

                      I’m sure if you read the article provided you would see supporters of NAZISM in the Mont Pelerin Society in the link I provided. But you’re quite happy with that.

                      Aren’t you.

                      Are you quite happy in being in denial of the existence of this group , their philosophies and their ideology’s that inherently lead to servitude and dominance , both economically and socially?

                      And in that scenario justifying letting their agents spread their perniciousness to the point of subverting our democracy unchecked?

                      You are happy to do that?

                      ”They were not totalitarians, though. ”


                      Really ?

                      Have you truly read and understood the article I provided?

                      And just because it isn’t of a modern context doesn’t mean it isn’t still 100% relevant to the motivations that led to Richardson and Douglas and Shipley doing what they did to the people of this country . Do you not understand who Hyek was and his underlying social philosophies ???

                      And that these ‘ new right ‘ stooges of the 1980’s were nothing more than the little glove puppets of a true totalitarian think tank?

                      You can call time.

                      But there is a point where deceit and guile and viscous agendas needs to be opposed.

                      And I am sure those victims of Nazism would feel the same today if they had a voice.

                      Always remember that.

                  • Anne

                    @ red-blooded
                    Agree with everything you have said between 3:21pm and 6:25pm.

                    Some people need to “dial back” their acrimony.

                    • Just tell that to the victims of family’s who have had suicides as a result of the Douglas reforms… and while your at it – grab a history lesson and at least try and understand who’s been playing you like a violin for the last 3 decades and just WHY they have been doing it.

                      Your at war whether you like it or not and being soft on your enemy and apologizing for their viciousness isn’t going to put a stop to them.

                      They’ll love you for being such gullible fools.

                      Your their best ally’s that they could ever hope for.

                      Wise up.

                    • keepcalmcarryon

                      Its just anger thats all.
                      Lets call it a draw and settle for revoking the Damehood.
                      Hell I’d pay to throw a few rotten veges at her in the stocks, but I doubt the Chinese would allow that to happen to their business investment.
                      We can only dream.

                    • You dont dream , … you learn up on the scum suckers who have been perverting your once great Social Democracy and you learn what it is to hate those bastards who have caused so much ongoing pain for your people and you make the conscious decision to stomp all over their fucking heads .

                      You are whether you like it or not involved in an ideological war with these ruthless bastards and the sooner you realize they don’t give a living breathing flying shit about you and your family’s and what happens to them is the moment you will start to grab some backbone and stop being such a bunch of weak kneed apologistic cowards.

                      Most of you seem to need to have spent some time among cultures who know what its been to oppose ruthless fuckers.

                      All I’ m seeing is a bunch of groaners content to fill these forums with their lame ineffectual bemoaning’s of how bad the world has gotten around them.

                      You have no fire.

                      You have no backbones.

                      You have no knowledge of history and the utilization of its principles.

                      You are weak , cynically minded easily led , cannon fodder for any manipulators who chose to use you.

                      And yet you sneer at the naivety of those who went to fight for ‘King and country’.

                      You are no better than they are.


                    • Anne

                      Are you talking to me WK @ 8:33pm?

                      Good grief. And I only said that I agree with red-blooded. 😯

                    • keepcalmcarryon

                      Undoubtedly some truth in there Wild Katipo but I doubt this forum is where the revolution will start!
                      There is some humour and some political smarts here. Its not all bad.

                    • @ keepcalmcarryon

                      I like your wry humour


                      I had to smile at that.


                      I believe in a militancy that is decidedly lacking in both ‘ Leftists’ and those who frequent these and other such like forums. We are a passive people and we pride ourselves on that. But it has a downside. We are easy suckers for those with corrupt and evil intent.

                      Such a fate should not befall a good people like the New Zealanders. And I would say it is a direct result of never , ever having to be exposed to the same sort of threat of war or depredation that either Europe or Asia has had to endure.

                      And because of that fact , we are easy prey to the likes of global manipulators such as Shipley , Douglas , Key and groups like the Mont Pelerin Society… thusly it would do us well to be schooled up well on just who those people are and the organisations that are planning against us.

                      3 decades of neo liberalism would , … one would think ,… at least motivate us to become vigilant.

                      And sadly , for far too may, due to the timeframe , that being 3 decades… whereby ,… whole new generations who are totally unawares of their own recent political history ,… are easily picked off by these predators ,… we have become lax and let our guard entirely down.

                      I hope to see a militancy in the coming September election.

                      Whereby people have a passion about their country and their children and their futures.

                      We owe it to the future generations.

                    • @ Anne

                      Redblooded is a neo liberal apologist.

                      He skirted all around the data provided and simply gave lightweight modern analogy’s to justify his position. If he had bothered to read , – and furthermore , – adsorb the material provided and see how it directly relates to the last 3 decades of NZ politics , he would have learnt something.

                      He is not interested in learning.

                      Just in bolstering up his arguments. And divulging into accusations and name calling. Water off a ducks back to me , however.

                      He has not yet been able to refute the historical evidence so far.

                      And that’s the great sticking point for the neo liberal apologist. They have no answers when the historical truth is applied .They are laid bare. Just as followers of Thatcher-ism are. And then they are made to feel foolish .

                      I have no mercy on them whatsoever.

                      For in their support of neo liberalism they have participated in the sufferings of thousands. I like to see them squirm.

                      So the call for those on the genuine Left is to cast off all pretensions. Root out all those who have a foot in both camps. Get rid of them as excess baggage.Get rid of them as those that would only seek to muddy the waters.

                      You are in an ideological war and this is no game.

              • KJT

                Criminal conspiracy to steal public assets was against the law back then, also.
                AND. What about “Personal responsibility”. The mantra of the right wing?

              • KJT

                We did that at Nuremberg.
                Remember. Everything the Stalinists, and Nazis did was legal.

                • And yet from Nuremberg we gained a greater sense of need for a body such as the United Nations. Unfortunately , it seems to have degenerated back into the same sort of impotence as the League of Nations did during the 1930’s during the late 1960’s and beyond because of the World Bank and IMF …

                  Again , primarily as a result of the interference of global banking and international treaties and the like which means corrupt govt’s have a standing in the U N that goes unchallenged.

                  Not so very different from the situation prior to WW1 that caused the deaths of millions barring the presence of Monarchy’s ruling Europe.

  6. millsy 6

    The biggest destroyer of living standards in the history of New Zealand.

  7. roy cartland 7

    That was the most painful of the series yet. Totally unapologetic. Completely solopsistic and self-entitled. A white farmer complaining about people getting too much welfare. But no mention of corporate welfare which she proudly championed.

    We should not allow such egotist wreckers anywhere near power.

    Ethnic, gender, sexual preference inequality is an abomination. Economic inequality is fine.

    • ”We should not allow such egotist wreckers anywhere near power.”


      In a nutshell.

      I would like to see a future cross party work done on drawing up the criteria and characteristics of neo liberalism and make it an outlawed ideology – similar as Nazism is in many country’s today – to prevent these sorts of dangerous wreckers from ever being able to gain a political foothold like they did during the 1980’s and 1990’s.

      • WILD KATIPO 7.1.1

        And here’s a wee extract from this site ;

        New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?

        The New Right Take Charge
        The Mont Pelerin Society, through MPS member Alan gibbs and through its assets in Treasury led by MPS member Roger Kerr, had cultivated during the early 1980s a group of up-and-coming young Labour politicians, particularly those around Roger Douglas in the Prince Street, Auckland branch of the Labour Party.
        Douglas and his associates represented a radical break with the working class Labour stalwarts who had built the New Zealand economy from the 1890s on, both through their own physical toil and through their political leadership. Douglas, a vitamin pill salesman, was typical of the new, “service sector”-orientated Labour Party. Like the rest of their generation then emerging to political influence the world, this crowd was hostile to reality-to the agricultural and industrial production upon which New Zealand’s living standards and egalitarian outlook had depended.
        Once in power, they set out to rip it apart.
        A key point of the free-market cabal’s programme was to devalue the New Zealand dollar, an extremely sensitive issue. Several weeks before the July, 1984 election, Douglas, Labour’s shadow finance minister, “accidentally” released a statement which signaled his intent to devalue. Since it was a near certainty that labour, aided by the New Zealand Party’s drawing votes from the Nationals, would win, speculators began to dump the New Zealand dollar, planning, post-devaluation, to cash in each dollar of foreign currency for more New Zealand dollars than previously.
        With Labour’s victory, the simmering foreign exchange crisis exploded. The Reserve Bank’s foreign Exchange holdings quickly ran dry, and Labour demanded, even before the end of the several-week transition period, that Muldoon devalue. After a brief struggle, Muldoon capitulated, and devalued by 20%.
        Speculators made tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars overnight.
        But now, in a pattern which was to repeat itself in later elections, the hard-core free-marketeers led by Douglas demanded, in order to deal with the “crisis” which they themselves had created, that Treasury’s entire Economic Management plan be implemented. This, it should be noted, was not the programme of the Labour Party, and therefore not the programme that New Zealanders had voted for, but that of the Mont Pelerin cabal, which Douglas et. al. had purposely kept from the electorate. Asked why the deceit, Labour Prime Minister David Lange told SBS TV’s dateline programme in 1987, “I guess Roger felt it was worth implementing”-acknowledging that Labours base would never have endorsed such a monstrosity.
        Under cover of “crisis,” the cabal moved with such stunning speed, that no one could stop them. As Douglas himself specified his method of ramming through extremely unpopular “reforms” in his book Unfinished business: “Do not try to advance a step at a time. Define your objectives clearly and move towards them in quantum leaps. Otherwise the interest groups will have time to mobilize and drag you down.”

        The New Right Take Charge
        The Mont Pelerin Society, through MPS member Alan gibbs and through its assets in Treasury led by MPS member Roger Kerr, had cultivated during the early 1980s a group of up-and-coming young Labour politicians, particularly those around Roger Douglas in the Prince Street, Auckland branch of the Labour Party.
        Douglas and his associates represented a radical break with the working class Labour stalwarts who had built the New Zealand economy from the 1890s on, both through their own physical toil and through their political leadership. Douglas, a vitamin pill salesman, was typical of the new, “service sector”-orientated Labour Party. Like the rest of their generation then emerging to political influence the world, this crowd was hostile to reality-to the agricultural and industrial production upon which New Zealand’s living standards and egalitarian outlook had depended.
        Once in power, they set out to rip it apart.
        A key point of the free-market cabal’s programme was to devalue the New Zealand dollar, an extremely sensitive issue. Several weeks before the July, 1984 election, Douglas, Labour’s shadow finance minister, “accidentally” released a statement which signaled his intent to devalue. Since it was a near certainty that labour, aided by the New Zealand Party’s drawing votes from the Nationals, would win, speculators began to dump the New Zealand dollar, planning, post-devaluation, to cash in each dollar of foreign currency for more New Zealand dollars than previously.
        With Labour’s victory, the simmering foreign exchange crisis exploded. The Reserve Bank’s foreign Exchange holdings quickly ran dry, and Labour demanded, even before the end of the several-week transition period, that Muldoon devalue. After a brief struggle, Muldoon capitulated, and devalued by 20%.
        Speculators made tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars overnight.
        that Treasury’s entire Economic Management plan be implemented. This, it should be noted, was not the programme of the Labour Party, and therefore not the programme that New Zealanders had voted for, but that of the Mont Pelerin cabal, which Douglas et. al. had purposely kept from the electorate. Asked why the deceit, Labour Prime Minister David Lange told SBS TV’s dateline programme in 1987, “I guess Roger felt it was worth implementing”-acknowledging that Labours base would never have endorsed such a monstrosity.
        Under cover of “crisis,” the cabal moved with such stunning speed, that no one could stop them. As Douglas himself specified his method of ramming through extremely unpopular “reforms” in his book Unfinished business: “Do not try to advance a step at a time. Define your objectives clearly and move towards them in quantum leaps. Otherwise the interest groups will have time to mobilize and drag you down.”


        Do you even understand this?

        And how it has modern ramifications even today of techniques used at a much earlier time?

        Lets highlight it and walk you through it once again , shall we ? :


        ” But now, in a pattern which was to repeat itself in later elections, the hard-core free-marketeers led by Douglas demanded, in order to deal with the “crisis” which they themselves had created, ”


        How many of you people are aware that that was EXACTLY what Baron Von Rothschild did during the Napoleonic wars during the battle of Waterloo?!!?

        And do you know what Rothschild did to gain his Monarchical title?

        Well , – hell’s bells ! ,… all he did was spread rumors on the British stock exchange that the the armies opposing Napoleon had lost .

        And do you know what he did then?

        All those shares in invested in Europe’s armies and all the landholdings etc plummeted- and Rothschild bought em all up. So much so , – he was given a fucking title by the English royalty .

        And why ??!!??

        Because he now could hold the English Monarchy to ransom and dictate terms of lending to that Monarchy for the support of its armies in South Africa guarding its diamond and gold mines and places like India – aka the East India Trading Company.

        Its time half you wannabe lefties got an education and stopped being so incredibly naive and got a bloody education.

        Do some bloody history lessons and stop being so bloody simplistic.

  8. Mrs Brillo 8

    She can’t opt out of subsidised health care? Now there’s a coincidence.

    Anyone who has been told the bar has now been raised and they don’t qualify even to go on a waiting list for surgery can’t opt INTO the public health system.

    However, cross their palms with silver – big, steaming heaps of silver – and the same surgeon performing the same op can magically do it next week in the private hospital system.

    I’m surprised a woman of Shipley’s acuity hasn’t heard of this wonderful wheeze.

  9. AB 9

    Shipley wants to erode the meagre assets of the NZ middle class so the wealthy (including herself) can continue to enjoy low taxes. When middle class New Zealanders use up their savings and downsize their houses to pay for medical bills and the like, that lost wealth will go into the hands of the 1% of whom Shipley is a member.

    Universality of the benefits of citizenship (e.g. free education and healthcare, a clean environment) accompanied by a properly progressive income tax is both the most efficient and most just way of sharing the wealth that is jointly created by the whole of the community.

    Listening to Shipley was a painful reminder of why she was so hated. To hear someone imbue the greed and selfishness of the rich with some higher moral purpose is puke-making. They are coming after the middle class now.

    • Sanctuary 9.1

      “…Listening to Shipley was a painful reminder of why she was so hated. To hear someone imbue the greed and selfishness of the rich with some higher moral purpose is puke-making. They are coming after the middle class now….”

      OHHHHHHHH!!!!!! NAILED IT!!!! Just had to re-post, QFT and all that.

    • Shipley was – and still is , – a despicable treacherous ideologue that was a key player in the theft of this country’s general wealth.

  10. Tautoko Mangō Mata 10

    For those with me who need some therapy after listening to JS, here is some humour about another of the same ilk.

    • L0L !

      That guy is pure brilliance..

      ” The one thing you can say about Thatcher was her hair was always perfectly manicured ,… beautifully sculptured like Mr Whippy , which ironically , she invented ”

      Hes like John Oliver but far more aggressive and scathing.

      Hes good.

      Too bad he doesn’t do a session on Shipley.

  11. Peroxide Blonde 11

    Shipley was the worse PM (unelected) since Massey.

    Shipley is not actually philosophically right or or center or anything. Shipley puts on a face to impress the faces she meets. Then she deliberately lowers her voice to create effect.
    She is a grubby self serving waste of flesh. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggg

    I joined Labour because of Shipley.

    • marty mars 11.1

      Shipley has the scariest voice of all of them and that’s not by chance.

      • In Vino 11.1.1

        Agree, PB. I was PPTA Chair at a school where she came to plant a celebratory tree. We were introduced: she clicked after a while that I as a union man was not likely to agree with what she was spouting. There was this incredible moment where she became a walking cassette player. She stopped, eyes went blank, she clicked into rewind, went way back and started spouting standard National guff.
        I had nothing to say to her that would not have landed me in court.

      • WILD KATIPO 11.1.2

        If you think the voices of viscous overbearing oafs are something to be scared of. To me its just a red rag to a bull.

    • DS 11.2

      She was better than Sid Holland. But that’s not saying much.

      She is certainly our worst living former Prime Minister.

      (I don’t push the unelected thing on her, since our system does not elect Prime Ministers directly. She’s just as legitimately a PM as, say, Bill Rowling).

      • WILD KATIPO 11.2.1

        ” (I don’t push the unelected thing on her, since our system does not elect Prime Ministers directly. She’s just as legitimately a PM as, say, Bill Rowling).”



        But the back handed way she went about it in waiting for Bolger to be out of the country like some sort viscous snake coupled with her arrogance and colossal sense of her own self importance in thinking she had every right to do as she damn well pleased and to hell with the wishes of either the NZ public or the National party caucus – DESPITE whether she believed she had the numbers or not.

        But it was poetic justice to the great gloating oaf that within a year she was hated by so many of the public and didn’t even serve more than one highly unpopular term.

  12. rob 12

    I can only remember her as a vile piece of work.

  13. adam 13

    When she was PM, I was living in WA.

    I was part of a group trying to get Independence for East Timor, so when President B. J. Habibie turned up, we went to protest. He had a hand full of security guards, and to his credit spoke to us for about 5 minutes about the up coming reforms in Indonesia. He gave the impression East Timor independence was on the table. History proved him a man of his word.

    A few week later Jenny Shipley turned up, I rocked up because family had said how bad she was, and wanted to how she would do in talking to the press on the parliamentary steps. One thing I always like about WA politics. She had dozens of security around, and huge police escort waiting. There were no protesters by the way. If I remember correctly she did not even make the news, she waffled.

    Always thought that summed her up. Paranoid, waffler, into her own privileged existence.

  14. Sir David Henry 14

    A wanna be Thatcher without any class.
    Where the “revolution” tries to go when it’s run out of steam……

  15. Tautoko Mangō Mata 15

    But Dame Jenny said the middle class has assets and they should be using those first before they put their hand in the pocket of someone else, such as the state.
    She said it was not an ideology, but social fairness.


    The Parliamentary Service’s 2015/16 annual report has revealed the latest figures for claims on international and domestic travel as part of a discontinued perk…….
    …..former Prime Minister Dame Jenny Shipley and her husband Burton spent $20,908 on their travels.


    Since Jenny Shipley feels sick when she gets subsidised for a doctor’s visit, then she must have been feeling very poorly on her travels suffering from such a bad case of hypocrisy.

    • gsays 15.1

      Hi tmm,
      Meanwhile in the news, parents with a son with autism needing full time care, get $46 a week support. Roughly $2,400 annually.

      For shipleys travel allowance alone, this family could get $380 a week help.

      Our welfare state has become perverse and offensive.

      • WILD KATIPO 15.1.1

        And to look on the photo of Shipley and her colleagues is to look on the very ones who created our current and past conditions of poverty.

        She needs to be dragged before the courts.

  16. RedBaronCV 16

    JIm Bolger at least had attempted to keep up with society today and the effect of the policies from his government.
    Jenny sounds like she’s talking about planet yesterday – middle class – what middle class they barely exist anymore.
    Hasn’t she read any statistics or anything since she was put on the welfare benefit for life??

  17. Sanctuary 17

    When it comes to lecturing anyone unfortunate to be within range about “leadership” Jenny Shipley has few peers. She couldn’t stop fucking talking about it back in the 1990s either.

    In my experience, the people who talk about leadership most are one who are the least qualified to actually exercise it – when Clark toasted her it was a blessed relief to shut that old Tory windbag up and have a PM who could lead, rather than just talk about it.

    Shipley is a complete sociopath. A dangerous, unreconstructed new-right fanatic whose narcissism admits no doubt. She is also a Quisling, nowadays totally owned by the Chinese who she sees as the next gravy train for self-styled elites like her.

    A truly awful person, who was never elected PM for good reason.

    Oh, and it worth remembering that that snake in the grass Asshole David Farrar was in the PMs office under Shipley, where I am sure he lapped up her brand of hard line Randian fanaticism.

    • AB 17.1

      “In my experience, the people who talk about leadership most are one who are the least qualified to actually exercise it ”
      Or to take this even further – as John Ralston Saul says – isn’t an obsession with leadership an odd concern for a supposedly democratic people to have?
      In my former life I sat through so many workshops on ‘leadership’ that I began to despise the whole concept – or at least came to believe that the language around leadership had become so debased that it was impossible to say anything meaningful about it, and the best thing we could do was just shut up about it for a decade or two. And after that it might be possible to talk about it again.

      • KJT 17.1.1

        Thought they were supposed to be “representatives”.
        Maybe that explains why our “Democracy” went wrong.
        When politicians think of themselves as “leaders” or even worse, “managers”!

  18. Nic the NZer 18

    It appears Shipley’s entire political career is premised on an economic fallacy.

    “A variant of the false analogy is the declaration that national debt puts an unfair burden on our children, who are thereby made to pay for our extravagances. Very few economists need to be reminded that if our children or grandchildren repay some of the national debt these payments will be made to our children or grandchildren and to nobody else. Taking them altogether they will no more be impoverished by making the repayments than they will be enriched by receiving them.” (Abba Lerner 1948).

    • Nic the NZer 18.1

      Bolger doesn’t get any slack here, he (via Richardson) probably caused a large part of the major recession following 1987 and he was completely un-apologetic and un-repentant about it. He plainly didn’t understand how to deal with a recession (which is exacerbated and prolonged, not improved, by ‘sharing the pain’).

  19. keepcalmcarryon 19

    Im still feeling a bit sick after enduring that.
    On a cheerier note, the comment section on the stuff version:
    will warm the cockles of your heart. The woman is despised.
    Its really not a bad thing the public are reminded of what the Nats really stand for, Especially in election year.
    Hopefully RNZ will have a reflective piece on Aaron Gilmore when they’ve finished the PM thing.

  20. Marcus Morris 20

    A much loved (and late) relative of mine once said that Maggie Thatcher had “the voice of a perfumed fart”. I think that could well do for Dame Jenny as well.

    • red-blooded 20.1

      TBH, I always hated her voice too (ditto the whiney tone of Bolger). Having said that, women in leadership often get pushed to lower their voices, so that they don’t sound “girly”.

      • gnomic 20.1.1

        La Blipley … her voice seems to me to be rather like that of the Donald. Mad ravings in a monotonic quite high pitched harangue. Wasn’t her father some sort of clergyman?

        Nothing to say but loves the sound of her own voice?


        Yes dear, just what you would say. But what convinced you of your talent for leadership?

        From a largely flattering interview by one Rosemary McLeod …..

        ‘By now I’m remembering her ability to express herself in fluent sentences that seem to emerge fully punctuated from her lips. Once again I’m asking her to slow down, as I did when she was in politics, and once again she calmly repeats herself, word for word.

        Altogether the effect is strangely colourless – there are no frisky, facetious riffs, and no self-deprecating jokes. Maybe this effect is what’s meant by the term “statesmanlike”. Shipley tells me, in her measured language, that “I track megatrends at the global level”. I think I possibly know what this means.

    • Graeme 20.2

      She was once referred to as “perfumed steamroller”

  21. dukeofurl 21

    Usually those who talk about ‘leadership’ ( as a noun), dont have any ability in that area.
    real leaders talk about what they want to achieve and inspiring others, or listening to the public and putting their hopes into action.

    Leadership for Shipley is about her deciding what is right and everyone else following orders.
    Not at all related to Trust, Integrity, Compassion.

    • greywarshark 21.1

      Leadership when a RW talks about it, and looking behind the words to the speaker and their apparent intent, seems to mean to facilitate new ways of doing profitable business, getting more opportunities to do so, driving the country in a way that enables them specifically. I’ve heard mostly business comment and complaint about needing leadership, and I know it’s not to take us towards the Scandinavian approach to running a country.

    • greywarshark 21.2

      Leadership when a RW talks about it, and looking behind the words to the speaker and their apparent intent, seems to mean to facilitate new ways of doing profitable business, getting more opportunities to do so, driving the country in a way that enables them specifically. I’ve heard mostly business comment and complaint about needing leadership, and I know it’s not to take us towards the Scandinavian approach to running a country.

      Leadership for Shipley is about her deciding what is right and everyone else following orders.
      Not at all related to Trust, Integrity, Compassion.

      Actually Dukeofurl what you say echoes what I read recently from a journalist reporting on an interview with Margaret Thatcher.

  22. BM 22

    A terrible woman who came out of the same factory as Ruth Richardson, ideologues to the core with no regard for the people that got crushed.

    That’s one thing to be thankful about MMP, you’ll never get MPs like Shiply or Richardson again, those sort of people cannot survive in an MMP environment.

  23. peterlepaysan 23

    One of the silliest things I have ever heard from Shipley (and her ilk) is that the so called “middle class” is not entitled to social welfare assistance.

    Without such assistance there would be no so called “middle class.

    All we have now is a very very very few people with a huge amount of money and a huge majority of overworked, stressed strugglers. Thank you jenny for your caring about us hoi polloi.

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    2 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 30 November 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Dr David Bromell, Senior Associate, Institute for Governance and Policy Studies: “While working as a public policy advisor, NZ Politics Daily was a daily “must read” as it alerted me to wider public policy issues than workplace-based media scanning, which generally covered only subject areas that related directly to ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    2 days ago
  • Can genetically engineered seeds prevent a climate-driven food crisis?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Samantha Harrington When John Boelts sows acres of cotton seed on his farm in Yuma, Arizona, he does so knowing that the fields will be free of an invasive pest called pink bollworm. For nearly a century, the small pink striped ...
    2 days ago
  • The Simple Thing That’s Hard To Do.
    What's Not To Like? There’s a reason why the self-evident benefits of a “one world government” arouse such visceral opposition from those with a vested interest in both the local and the global status quo. A world run for the benefit of all human-beings strikes at the very heart of the ...
    2 days ago
  • A Stay of Execution: The National Library of New Zealand Caves to Authors
    Well, well. Looks like Christmas has arrived early, with a victory over vandalism. You may recall this little furore about the future of the National Library of New Zealand’s Overseas Published Collection: https://phuulishfellow.wordpress.com/2021/11/22/lack-of-public-service-announcement-the-national-library-of-new-zealand-internet-archive-and-alleged-digital-piracy/ Well, those outrageous plans to digitise and pirate copyrighted works have got enough negative attention ...
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: We can do it!
    RNZ reports on the other story to come out of the government's emissions budget Cabinet paper: the scale of the changes we need to make: The massive scale of the nationwide changes needed quickly to cut climate gas emissions is laid bare in newly-released government documents. [...] The number ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Cold feet?
    Ministry for the Environment has dumped more cabinet papers related to its recent initial consultation on the emissions reduction plan. The key document is an August cabinet paper on Emissions Budgets for 2022-2025, 2026-2030 and 2031-2035, which made the dubious in-principle decision to increase the first period's emissions budget (which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Rating The Contenders.
    There Can Be Only One: Some might ask why National MPs would install yet another “successful business person” at the helm of their party? Isn’t one Todd Muller enough? Especially when Simon Bridges could become the first National politician of Māori descent to become Prime Minister.LET’S GET SOMETHING out of ...
    2 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on Omicron, and the Bridges/Luxon dilemma
    At this early stage, the Omicron variant seems to be more infectious, and more able to bypass the protection offered by vaccines and by the antibodies generated by previous infection. The fact that it is being spread around the globe by travellers who were all presumably fully immunised and had ...
    3 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 29 November 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Dr Kevin Moore, Associate Professor in Psychology & Tourism, Lincoln University: “For me, the big advantage of NZ Politics Daily is the breadth of opinion and sources it gathers. Together. There is always a mix of news reporting, news analysis, opinion pieces and blog posts. That breadth ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago
  • National is still very much the same Party even without Collins leading it… that’s the real issu...
    Judith Collins regarded Thatcher as “a personal hero” of hers. But like her hero though, it took the UK Conservative Party and their ideological counterparts here to get rid of both of them, from the inside. There’s a sort of bizarre symmetry to that really. Both were rather messy ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    3 days ago
  • 2021 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #48
    Listing of articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, November 21, 2021 through Sat, November 27, 2021 The following articles sparked above average interest during the week: To Breed or Not to Breed?, The Vaccine for Fake News, Ten ways to confront the climate ...
    3 days ago
  • A professor without honour in his own country
    Michael Corballis just three months before his death appeared in an interview on the Hui with Mihirangi Forbes. She made no effort to conceal her disdain for his defence of science and proceeded to lecture him on not knowing enough about mātauranga Maori to comment on it and accused him ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • Businessman – and Political Novice
    The drums are beating – see Heather Du Plessis-Allan in today’s Herald – for Christopher Luxon’s bid to become National’s new (and latest) leader. It is conceded that he is a political tyro but – such is National’s current plight – it is suggested that he is a risk worth ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • No, Elizabeth Stuart Would Not Have Stopped the English Civil War (Probably)
    As you might have noticed, A Phuulish Fellow is a fairly eclectic blog. Even an organic one. I have my interests, and write about them as the fit takes me. And sometimes I stumble across an article I feel the need to comment on. Today, I ran across a ...
    4 days ago
  • Rumour Has It: A Númenórean Character List?
    Today we have another Amazon rumour on our hands. And for a change, it is not coming out of Fellowship of Fans. No, instead we have the following tweet doing the rounds, ostensibly listing (mostly) Númenórean characters and their code names. It’s an interesting leak, if true. And that’s ...
    5 days ago
  • Covid as Warriors
    The book I am currently working on – tentative title ‘In Open Seas’ – looks at the current and future New Zealand. One chapter describes the policy towards Covid using the trope of warfare. It covers an important period in our history but show how policy evolves and why, as ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    5 days ago
  • COVID-19: the B.1.1.529 variant – what do we know?
    There’s a lot of news about a new variant originally reported in southern Africa. Early signs have prompted calls for immediate precautionary blocks on travel from the region to restrict its spread. The WHO has called an emergency conference on this variant. Here’s a round-up of what we know so ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    5 days ago
  • National Party board denies it unanimously agreed to Collins’ Faustian bargain with Satan
    Sources close to party president Peter Goodfellow say he was totally blindsided by Collins’ claims he was party to this particular satanic ritual. National Party president Peter Goodfellow is today issuing a strong denial on behalf of the party’s board, saying they did not, at any point, agree to the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • The cost of optimism
    Yesterday the National Party imploded in a messy knife-fight that cost it its leader and probably one of the contenders. So naturally, the government has taken the opportunity to do a dump of its pandemic advice, including the Cabinet papers on its controversial decisions to repeatedly lower the Auckland alert ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National’s less than stellar choices
    Amid all the jostling in the National caucus ranks, spare a thought for Andrew Bayly. Who? Well might you ask. Plucked from obscurity by Judith Collin, elevated from number 18 to number 3 in the caucus rankings and given the Finance portfolio – a role in which he has been ...
    5 days ago
  • Are New Zealand’s universities doing enough to define the limits of academic freedom?
    Matheson Russell, University of Auckland   The news last week that University of Auckland public health researcher Simon Thornley was retracting a co-authored paper about supposed vaccination risks during pregnancy raised deeper questions about the limits of academic freedom. Thornley’s own head of department had called for the paper to ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 26 November 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Jean Drage, Political scientist specialist in local government: “With 78 local authorities and central government currently intent on reform, local government is a challenging area of research to keep on top of. Thank goodness for Bryce’s NZ’s Politics Daily. It is a gem, especially as it also ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago
  • Josh Van Veen: Bridges is not the one
    Simon Bridges failed to bluff Judith Collins out of the leadership. A campaign to rehabilitate his image began shortly after the election and culminated in the publication of a memoir in August. There were persistent rumours of a deal with rival Christopher Luxon and MPs from the ‘liberal’ wing of ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago
  • Smokefree cars – an important step towards protecting children from the hazards of smoking
    Richard Edwards, Jude Ball, Janet Hoek, George Thomson, Nick Wilson*  On November 28 new legislation to protect children from smoking and vaping in cars will come into force. This blog sets out the background and rationale for the new law, and discusses implementation, evaluation and the next steps to protect ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    6 days ago
  • Judith's Last Stand.
    Going Out With All Guns Blazing: Why didn’t Judith Collins stick with the strategy that had kept her, National’s most improbable of leaders, in power for more than a year? One might just as well ask why Rob Muldoon (that other unforgiving right-wing populist National Party leader) got drunk and ...
    6 days ago
  • Act’s Precarious Ascendancy.
    On The Lookout: It is easy to imagine how closely Seymour has been watching the National Opposition for the slightest sign of a Clark figure emerging. A respected politician, who enjoys broad support across the party and, much more importantly, who impresses the ordinary centre-right voter as having what it ...
    6 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #47, 2021
    104 articles by 574 contributing authors Physical science of climate change, effects Delayed impacts of Arctic sea-ice loss on Eurasian severe cold winters Jang et al. Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres 10.1029/2021jd035286 Observations of climate change, effects Divergent responses of terrestrial carbon use efficiency to climate variation from 2000 ...
    6 days ago
  • Labour’s Eyes Wide Shut To “Unruly Tenants”.
    Not Seeing The Problem: They say there are none so blind as those who will not see. And, right now, Kāinga Ora is studiously not looking. It is clear to everyone that the Minister responsible, Poto Williams, has (like so many of her colleagues) been entirely captured by her officials. ...
    6 days ago
  • Is the mob coming for Charles Darwin?
    Richard Dawkins recently noted the giants of the past are being sanctimoniously judged by nonentities of the present whose only qualification is still being alive to do so. How will the future judge our own time when we are not around? Peter Franklin from Unherd examines whether the woke can ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Blowing a Hole in Your Own Wall: Idiotic Tampering with MIQ
    Managed Isolation/Quarantine has been a fact of life for New Zealand for eighteen months. It’s not popular – there are only so many spaces available at any given time, and the process is famously opaque – but it is the key to saving New Zealand from rampant Coronavirus. That, ...
    6 days ago
  • Now Labour wants secret trials
    Today, the government introduced the Security Information in Proceedings Legislation Bill to the House. The Bill would allow the government to use classified information in civil or criminal proceedings and keep it secret from the other party. So people suing the government for human rights abuses could lose, and defendants ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The end of a toxic leader
    If there's one thing that Judith Collins is usually good at, it's using scandalous information about other people to her advantage. Not above undermining her own political party, Collins has been known to even leak against her own fellow MPs, particularly those who posed a threat to her as the ...
    6 days ago
  • A transformative government in Germany
    Back in September Germans went to the polls, and handed the politicians a tough job, with no easy majorities for anyone. The Social Democrats, Free Democrats, and Greens agreed to work together in a "traffic light" coalition, but given their political differences (its basicly ACT/Greens/Labour), expectations for real change were ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Political Harakiri
    The National party must always have known that they were taking a risk when they elected Judith Collins as leader. There were, after all, good reasons why they repeatedly declined to accept her candidature when she offered herself – as she frequently did. She was always an inappropriate person to ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • Thanksgiving advice, 2021: How to deal with climate change-denying Uncle Pete
    This is a re-post from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists by Richard Somerville “Birds of a feather flock together,” so I am sure that nearly all of those reading this article accept the main findings of climate science. Yet many people don’t. Instead, they believe a variety of climate ...
    7 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the demotion of Simon Bridges
    So Simon Bridges has been bounced from the front bench and stripped of his shadow portfolio responsibilities for the crudely “inappropriate” comments that he allegedly made to a female colleague, Jacqui Dean – and personally apologised for – about five years ago. After years of mocking Labour for its supposed ...
    7 days ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 25 November 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Dr Rosemary Wette, Associate Professor, Applied Linguistics, University of Auckland: “I’ve been browsing regularly through NZ Politics Daily for several months now. It gives me access to a range of views on current issues (helpfully organised by topic) that I wouldn’t otherwise have time to look up, or ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    7 days ago
  • The bizarre case of the Royal Society investigating academics defending science
    The Royal Society has begun a disciplinary investigation against a group of academics. The academics were defending science and in the past would have expected support from the Royal Society. The Free Speech Union has launched a campaign to defend the academics and academic freedom. Māori professor under investigation for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Ian Powell: Unionism and nursing in New Zealand
    In the around 35 years I worked for unions (over 30 with the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists and earlier with the New Zealand Educational Institute) I often cogitated over the distinction between unions and unionism. They are intertwined but not inseparable. I associate unionism with collective consciousness able to ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • Bryce Edwards: Today’s constitutional disgrace in Parliament
    This Government has a problem with urgency. Critics from both left and right have long complained about their lack of urgency on issues such as climate change, housing, and inequality. Likewise, in terms of the Covid response, there’s been a chorus of criticism that Labour has been complacent and sluggish ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • Vaping needs much tighter regulation as we approach Smokefree Aotearoa 2025: Two new studies
    Nick Wilson, Janet Hoek, Jennifer Summers, Driss Ait Ouakrim, Andrew Waa, Richard Edwards, Tony Blakely* Two recent studies provide new insights into the impact vaping may have on public health. The first estimates that use of modern vaping devices could be around a third as harmful to health as smoking. ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Strange Defeat: A Guest Post By Dr. Chris Harris.
    They Did Things Differently Then: And we might still be doing things differently, if the world these "Country Lads" were fighting for, and which endured for nearly 30 years after World War II, had not been supplanted by the world we inhabit now. In spite of its reality, New Zealand's ...
    1 week ago
  • More than 147km – the transformative potential of the Wellington bike network plan
    Feature image by Luke Pilkinton-Ching, University of Otago Wellington   Caroline Shaw, Anja Mizdrak, Ryan Gage* Wellington City Council is currently consulting on a cycle network for Wellington. This is a big deal. WCC are proposing a 147km cycle network around the city, the vast majority of which is new. ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 24 November 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Liz Brown, Senior communications advisor, Association of Salaried Medical Specialists: “The NZ Politics Daily is a fabulous resource providing a comprehensive one stop shop on what’s making news and how stories are being covered. I look forward to seeing it pop into my inbox every morning.” Anyone can sign ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Taking us for a ride
    Agricultural emissions has been an oozing sore in our climate change policy for over a decade. Exempted from the ETS in 2008, farmers were meant to be brought in and start paying for their emissions in 2012. Of course, National put a stop to that, and exempted them forever. When ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: An industry in denial
    Over the past few years it has become clear that coal has no future in Aotearoa. Rising carbon prices, a ban on new boilers and a legislated phase-out for existing infrastructure are going to drive it out of the market. To reinforce this, the government signed up for an anti-coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The “most open and transparent government ever” again
    The government is about to pass new vaccination mandate legislation under urgency. So obviously, they'd want to ensure it gets the best possible scrutiny in the limited time available by releasing the supporting policy documents, right? Of course not: On the eve of legislation to enable vaccination passes being ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Gordon Campbell on farmers playing the victim, plus Chile’s right turn
    Among the farming lobby groups, the good cop/bad cop routine has been working a treat. It suits Federated Farmers to keep daylight between itself and the Groundswell movement. Month in, year out the Federation continues to engage with the government over the very same water degradation/climate change regulations that Groundswell ...
    1 week ago
  • Important People
    The Herald has returned to form with a vengeance. In today’s issue, Barry Soper snipes at Jacinda’s handling of her regular press conferences. It seems that she did not give him an early chance to ask his very important question and took no account of his need to depart immediately ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Parliament, the Courts and the end of three strikes (for now)
    Last week, Parliament embarked on the process of repealing the so-called “three strikes” provisions in the Sentencing Act 2002. Given that Labour, the Greens and Te Paati Māori all supported this repeal Bill at first reading (and that NZ First no longer is in government to block the move), three strikes’ eventual legislative demise seems ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 week ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 23 November 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Martyn Bradbury, Editor, The Daily Blog “’NZ Politics Daily’ is one of the most important news and political resources run in New Zealand. The expert collation of opinion and news makes it an invaluable day to day resource as well as an incredible treasure for researchers in the future. ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand’s Emission Reduction Plan
    By Paul Callister and Robert McLachlan Fifty years ago, on 26 November 1971, the film “Notes on a New Zealand City: Wellington”, directed by Paul Maunder, premiered on Wellington TV. The narrator asks if Wellington’s future will involve suburban sprawl, traffic, motorways, suburban shopping malls, and the decentralization of employment; ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Dissing The Farmers.
    Neale vs The Revolting Farmers: One has to admire the way Capital Government Relations CEO, Neale Jones, covers-off all the bases of the current political zeitgeist. In a masterfully composed tweet, he lambasts the Groundswell protesters as sexists, racists and reactionaries, clinging for dear life to “a purely extractive economic ...
    1 week ago
  • How will carbon pricing impact inflation?
    This is a re-post from the Citizens' Climate Lobby blog Inflation — the decline of purchasing power as prices rise — is currently at its highest level in 30 years. This has led to concern among the public and policymakers about the rising costs of many important products like food, shelter, gasoline, ...
    1 week ago
  • (Lack of) Public Service Announcement: The National Library of New Zealand, Internet Archive, and Al...
    The National Library of New Zealand has not covered itself in glory in recent times. The decision to axe most of the Overseas Collection (some 600,000 books) in order to make way for more New Zealand items (which it collects already, and which amounts to some 3,000 items ...
    1 week ago
  • Game over for the HRPP
    Since its election loss earlier this year, Samoa's Human Rights Protection Party has been pinning its hopes on the upcoming by-elections to regain power. That was a pretty forlorn hope - with 18 seats, they would have had to win all seven by-elections and have two additional women appointed to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Chinese influence and American hate diffusion.
    Over the last decade concerns have been raised about Chinese “influence operations” in NZ and elsewhere. Run by CCP-controlled “United Front” organisations, influence operations are designed to promote PRC interests and pro-PRC views within the economic and political elites of the targeted country as well as Chinese diaspora communities. The ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Good riddance
    Its official: the Marsden Point refinery, source of more than 600,000 tons of carbon dioxide a year, will be closing down from April: Refining NZ has confirmed its decision to close the Marsden Point oil refinery, which will shut down in April. The company announced on Monday that its ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The Real Interests Of The Country.
    Off Message: Into the extremely fraught relationship between Town and Country, the Groundswell organisers have blundered like an Aberdeen-Angus steer in an organic vege-shop. Unreasonably proud of their rural economic virtues, and dangerously forthright in their enumeration of the cities’ political vices, these Kiwi equivalents of America’s “good ole boys” ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ Politics Daily: 22 November 2021
    Today’s NZPD testimonial from Minna Reid, Law student, Victoria University of Wellington “As a Uni student, staying up to date with current affairs is always important. The Daily Politics & Democracy Project by Bryce Edwards is of great service for this. It offers varying news sources I would not have found myself ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • Free speech is a people’s frank confession to itself
    by Daphna Whitmore The government is devising new “Hate Speech” laws to save New Zealand from something that has not been defined. When asked what is hate speech the Prime Minister replied “You know it when you see it”. The Human Rights Commission is supporting the law change and sees ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago

  • New Zealand Response to assist peace and stability in Solomon Islands
    The New Zealand government has announced that it will deploy Defence Force and Police personnel to Honiara to help restore peace and stability. “New Zealand is committed to its responsibilities and playing its part in upholding regional security,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said.  “We are deeply concerned by the recent ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 hours ago
  • Continued growth in volume of new home consents
    In the year ended October 2021, 47,715 new homes were consented, up 26 per cent from the October 2020 year. In October 2021, 4,043 new dwellings were consented Canterbury’s new homes consented numbers rose 31% to higher than post-earthquake peak. New home consents continue to reach remarkable levels of growth, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago
  • Saddle up for summer with cycle trail funding
    New investment will keep the best of New Zealand’s cycle trails in top condition as regions prepare to welcome back Kiwi visitors over summer and international tourists from next year. “Cycle tourism is one of the most popular ways to see the country ‘off the beaten track’ but the trails ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago
  • New Zealand provides additional funding to COVAX for vaccine delivery
    Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced additional funding will be provided to COVAX to support vaccine delivery in developing countries. “New Zealand remains cognisant of the dangers of COVID-19, especially as new variants continue to emerge. No one is safe from this virus until we all are and this ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago
  • COVID-19 Community fund providing support for 160 organisations focused on women and girls
    Minister for Women Jan Tinetti today announced financial support will be allocated to the 160 successful applicants for the COVID-19 Community Fund, to support organisations helping women/wāhine and girls/kōtiro in Aotearoa New Zealand affected by the pandemic. “COVID-19 has had a disproportionate effect on women around the world including in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago
  • Government delivers reactivation package as Aucklanders reconnect for summer
    A new support package will help revive economic, social and cultural activities in our largest city over summer, and ensure those in hardship also get relief. The Social Development and Employment Minister Carmel Sepuloni and the Economic and Regional Development Minister Stuart Nash have announced a Reactivating Tāmaki Makaurau Auckland ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Mobile services and broadband come to Chatham Islands for first time
    World class mobile and broadband services have been switched on for the 663 residents of the Chatham Islands, Minister for the Digital Economy and Communications, David Clark and Minister for Economic and Regional Development, Stuart Nash announced today. “This eagerly awaited network will provide fast broadband and mobile services to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Crown accounts reflect strong economy amid pandemic
    The Government’s financial accounts continue to reflect an economy that has performed better than expected, despite the latest Delta COVID-19 outbreak. The Crown accounts for the four months to the end of October factors in the improved starting position for the new financial year. Core Crown tax revenue was $2.5 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • Applications open for new 2021 Resident Visa
    The first round of applications for New Zealand’s new 2021 Resident visa open today (6am). “This one-off pathway provides certainty for a great many migrant families who have faced disruption because of COVID-19 and it will help retain the skills New Zealand businesses need to support the economic recovery,” Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • More Vietnam Veterans to receive compensation for Agent Orange Exposure
    Minister for Veterans, the Hon Meka Whaitiri announced today that two new conditions associated with Agent Orange exposure have been added to the Prescribed Conditions List. Under the 2006 Memorandum of Understanding signed between the Crown and representatives of Vietnam veterans and the Royal New Zealand RSA. Vietnam veterans in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government commits to international effort to ban and regulate killer robots
    Minister of Disarmament and Arms Control Phil Twyford announced today that New Zealand will push for new international law to ban and regulate autonomous weapons systems (AWS), which once activated can select and engage targets without further human intervention. “While the evidence suggests fully autonomous weapons systems are not yet ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • New freedom camping rules – right vehicle, right place
    Tougher freedom camping laws will be introduced to prevent abuse which has placed an unfair burden on small communities and damaged our reputation as a high quality visitor destination. Tourism Minister Stuart Nash has confirmed that new legislation will be introduced to Parliament following an extensive round of public consultation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government invests to support a classic Kiwi summer
    Vaccinated New Zealanders can look forward to Kiwi summer events with confidence, while artists and crew will have more certainty, following the launch of details of the Arts and Culture Event Support Scheme, Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Carmel Sepuloni announced today. “The Government recognises that the arts and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Grace period for expired driver licences cruises into 2022
    Due to the ongoing Delta outbreak and extended lockdowns, all New Zealand driver licences and licence endorsements that expired on or after 21 July 2021 will now be valid until 31 May 2022, Transport Minister Michael Wood announced today. “This further extension to the validity of driver licenses recognises that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Delivered: 1,000 extra transitional homes
    A further 1,000 transitional homes delivered  New housing development starts in Flaxmere, Hastings  The Government has delivered the next 1,000 transitional housing places it promised, as part of its work to reduce homelessness. Housing Minister Dr Megan Woods is marking the milestone in Hastings at a new development that includes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Traffic light levels announced
    The levels at which different parts of New Zealand will move forward into the COVID-19 Protection Framework this Friday have been announced. Northland, Auckland, Taupō and Rotorua Lakes Districts, Kawerau, Whakatane, Ōpōtiki Districts, Gisborne District, Wairoa District, Rangitikei, Whanganui and Ruapehu Districts will move in at Red The rest of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Financial support to move to traffic light system
    A new transition payment will be made available particularly for affected businesses in Auckland, Waikato and Northland to acknowledge the restrictions they have faced under the higher Alert Levels. Transition payment of up to $24,000 as businesses move into traffic light system Leave Support Scheme and Short Term Absence Payment ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Ambassador to Russia announced
    Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced the appointment of Sarah Walsh as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to Russia. “Aotearoa New Zealand and Russia have a long-standing relationship, engaging on a range of regional and global interests including disarmament and Antarctica issues. We also work together as members of the East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Permanent Representative to the UN announced
    Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced the appointment of Carolyn Schwalger as Permanent Representative to the New Zealand Permanent Mission to the United Nations in New York. “Aotearoa New Zealand is a founding member of the UN and we have worked hard to ensure our stance on human rights, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Further COVID-19 economic support for Cook Islands and Fiji announced
    Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced a further package of support for the Cook Islands and Fiji for COVID-19 economic support and recovery. “Aotearoa New Zealand remains committed to supporting our Pacific fanau and vuvale to respond to the impacts of COVID-19 on their economies, and move towards long-term ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New law will clear the air for tamariki in vehicles
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