Well anyone can put in a contract tender to go and get these trees and do what they want with them, and all the while they have to pay commissions to DOC. Unless there is corruption and the contracts go deliberately to some awful vindictive business entity...
McFlock i think the legislation says it cant happen in a national park, only on conservation land etc
I didnt say they cant clear an area of wind felled trees, what i said is that they cant clear an area if any trees there have not being wind felled. I agree some felled stuff should be left behind. I suppose it will all come down to what happens in the ...
Because it strongly suggests that Labour decision was not in the best interests of those electorate MPs constituents
No unfortunately as ive had a few work emails to get to, am looking at GP website at present
Yes i do see that and yes i did not agree with those roads too. It would be concerning to me if The DG is seen to permit the felling of live trees. If felled live trees do make it out of the forest then i will be very pissed off. However from reading this ...
weka ok thanks il have a read of that next
But thats the impression that has being made by them voting against it. They have being played well and truly again by the torries. They are seemingly become useless at politics; people wont vote forn a party thats giving an incompetent impression. The two...
thanks yes ive seen it now, of course........... Ok il elaborate, you are talking like a Green, real labour people put jobs ahead of voting for rotting trees. Yes the legislation isnt perfect but near enough that i can make out with a quick read so instead...
Thanks am reading the legislation now. Not talkback but i do expect the media and the greens and labour to say that they think this will lead to widespread logging if they think that will happen. All i have heard from the greens on tv3 party is that no one...
No, not me, too many insects around there for me. Whos the director general? There will surely be OIA paperwork trail showing what they permit
weka, no, its downed trees, there is no clear felling of live trees. Unless you are saying they are going to remove a whole lot of upright standing trees in the area- that would be totally against what Nick Smith is saying. I quote him directly here Dr ...
I cant see it, can you? if so what time?
"No, that isn’t my point. For one thing you can’t “harvest” what you didn’t plant in the first place: those resources are “extracted”." Really this comes down to you not liking the use of harvest instead of extracted. Really you should take off to the ...
"Can you please point to where in the legislation it says only single log harvesting is allowed?" That was in regards to a prior comment from someone who said timberlands was only allowed to do single logging but ended up doing pockmarking areas. That made...
where can i read that?
wheres the legislation?
Dont you get it? its not cutting at all....... the trees have fallen over and are dead/dying!!!!!!!
Show me one quote from any politican, green, red or blue that there is going to be felling of living upright trees in these west coast forests? All the contracts which are having expressions of interests put in are for felled trees. You are scaremongering.
i know what single log harvesting is and what pockmarking an area is so settle down. I know that if it was contracted to be single logs and it wasnt then someone needs to be hit up for that. If you dont understand that let me know
You can make money from harvesting downed trees and still value the forests. I think its much better to provide jobs from them rather than let them lie there rotting as i dont give a fig about a few less insects in what will be an already ample abundance ...
if thats me can you tell me what time the "more suited" remark was?
So is your point that since climate change has brought them down they shouldnt be harvested? You may be more of an expert on climate change than me but doesnt rotting wood release carbon and make climate change worse?
I have no concerns for the long term survival of the forest from having some of these downed trees removed. I care much more for the jobs on the Coast then for any concerns into the future which can be addressed then if anything untoward does occur. ...
Whats my behaviour that you make mention of? Whats my complete lack of personal responsibilty too? All im hearing here is that people want a lot of downed trees left behind. The press release from Labour doesnt state that as being the problem. Perhaps you ...
A clear cut is a area of trees all cut down and removed. The only trees allowed to be removed by this legislation are those all ready down from the storm so therefore no clear cutting is going to happen.
Id be really interested if you can tell me why its stupid wondering how it was allowed to be pockmarked when it was meant to be individual logs? So since im stupid and you are so bright tell me was that due to a govt official not supervising properly, ...
Well you tell me what the merits of the bill are? I cant see how removing a few of the multiple fallen trees in a forest is going to lead to its destruction. If you have any proof that it would then let me know. I dont give a toss if theres a few less ...
So are you saying climate pulled them down? hows it do that without wind? yes im not a forest ecologist so please please explain how removing a small percentage of trees is going to lead to the creeping destruction of the forests and doc estate
Theres also red sensation and red fountain to add to that list too. Im not sure which ones are the dwarfs either yet
yes, but not the greens, not national, not nzfirst so just where should he be as id probably go there too
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