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Sunday Reading

Written By: - Date published: 9:30 am, August 26th, 2012 - 60 comments
Categories: equality, interweb, us politics - Tags:

My regular Sunday piece of interesting, longer, deeper stories I found during the week. It’s also a chance for you to share what you found this week too. Those stimulating links you wanted to share, but just didn’t fit in anywhere (no linkwhoring).  This week: Rape, US attitudes to inequality, and, idle or vulnerable?

Rape has been a regular topic this week. The UK Respect MP George Galloway repeated one of the Assange defenders’ legal myths – that having sex with someone while they’re sleeping wouldn’t be rape in the UK. Republican Congressman Akin is refusing to stand down from his Senate race after his claims that a woman’s body can shutdown pregnancy in the case of ‘legitimate’ rape (nicely satirised by The Onion).  So it seems a good time to ask: why has rape become a regular and acceptable comedy topic recently?

There’s another good piece on The Guardian about the Right vs the Left’s concepts and language.  Are the out of work, the unsuccessful, “idle” or “vulnerable”?  Is our lack of success individually and as a country down to laziness and we all just need to suck it up and work harder as some Tory MPs are pushing, or maybe we don’t have complete individual autonomy and other things impact on our ability to achieve…

As NZ’s inequality hits it highest ever, with CEOs getting 9.9% pay rises while almost everyone outside the top 10% saw their average income fall, what does the US think about inequality?  The rest of the world may see the land of the American Dream as incredibly unjust in its wealth distribution, but US citizens don’t realise that the bottom 40% own a mere 0.3% of the wealth, and the top 20% own 84%.  Given the choice of how they’d like society structured, Americans will go for something noticeably more equal than Sweden, but they don’t vote for it.  And figures this week show middle class wealth shrinking as that inequality gets worse.

Makes you wonder why Ayn Rand keeps being so popular over there…

Lastly, for those who fancy some heavy reading on a Sunday: an IMF paper backing full reserve banking is out.  More evidence for those wanting to nationalise the money supply…


60 comments on “Sunday Reading”

  1. kiwi_prometheus 1

    A guy pisses off powerful govenrments and individuals by exposing their lies and power abuses.

    Surprise, surprise, suddenly he is accused of some obscure sex crime under Swedish law.

    The feminists should be on the CIA payroll.

  2. Maui 2

    Maybe they are.

    The ethics of making love to a sleeping partner goes both ways .. and there are such things as nice surprises.

      • Maui 2.1.1

        Can Assange’s affaire be compared to the trust developed in a long-term relationship ? Clearly not.

        Sexual entrapment has a long history in intelligence operations.

        • weka

          Maui, did you read js’ link? The woman describes being raped while asleep (and probably drugged) by a man she knew but wasn’t in a long term relationship with.

      • Maui 2.1.2

        When I click this link I get

        “An unexpected error occurred

        Please contact your system administrator”

          • KJT

            I disagree. The person that raped Laurie Penny was an evil man. No matter how he appeared on the outside.

            Despite her article, men who do things like that are evil.

            Same as those who laugh when they gun down civilians from helicopters, or put a man in solitary confinement for exposing them.

            I am not commenting on whether Assuange is guilty of rape, apart from the fact that the first prosecuter said there was no case. A second prompted by a right wing politician got it re-opened.

            It is obvious that Sweden’s pursuit of Assuange has nothing to do with rape, or they would agree not to extradite him to any place under US control, if he gives himself up for questioning by the Swedes.

            Are we now going to allow Russia, Zimbabwe or Iran to extradite any journalist they are unhappy with..

            • Bunji

              The article linked to in the post makes the point that Sweden cannot agree to that point. Extradition law across the world says every case must be dealt with on its merits. A government cannot agree to a blanket “no extradition for X” as they have no right to – it is up for the courts to decide. Separation of powers and all that.

              It also makes the point that once in Sweden, Sweden agreeing to his extradition is not enough – because he was extradited from the UK, both must to his extradition. Currently only the UK needs to. So it will be by definition more difficult to extradite him from Sweden than from the UK, before you even get into the fact that the UK has an incredibly easy extradition treaty with the US, and Sweden doesn’t.

              • Colonial Viper

                the other party here is the US. The US can come clean and declare whether or not it has already laid sealed (secret) charges against Julian Assange.

                • McFlock

                  If they haven’t laid sealed charges and they issue a denial, I doubt teamassange would believe it.
                  Because if they are evil oppressors who lay secret charges, they’d still deny having laid sealed charges. 

    • kiwi_prometheus 2.2

      “Maybe they are.”

      Well they certainly suck up plenty of tax payer money via the Literature Departments of Universities.

      Gender Studies, Herstory. 🙄

      I remember in the 80s when the Feminists manhaters blamed gay men for AIDS “because of their promiscous lifestyle”.

      The feminist also get into bed with Right Wing Moral Crusaders on issues like porno. That hysterical monomaniac feminist Andrea Dworkin is a good example.

      And don’t forget their suppressed memory recall BS, it was another bender who took it in the arse figuratively speaking, in that Christchurch creche case – one of the child ‘victims’ and her mother had a track record of lying about abuse.

      And lets not forget all the false rape allegations.

      If you object to Feminist ideology they scream “Rape!”.

      • weka 2.2.1

        “And lets not forget all the false rape allegations.”

        There’s an army of commentators who also believe “that’s not real rape” is both a valid defence of a specific political asylum-seeker and objective truth. Women lie, they say. Women lie about rape, about sexual assault, they do it because they’re stupid or wicked or attention-seeking or deluded. The observation that the rate of fraud in rape cases remains as low as the rate of fraud in any other criminal allegation – between 2 and 4 per cent – has no impact. Women lie, and they do it to ruin men in positions of power.

        My emphasis 🙄

        • kiwi_prometheus

          Feminists pump out dodgy stats about rape to push their agenda.

          The manhater Harriet Harman got slapped down for releasing dodgy stats about low rates of successful prosecution in rape cases.

          “The review by Baroness Stern appeared to put an end to years of claims by ministers that laws and criminal procedures for dealing with rape need radical reform because only six per cent of complaints end in a conviction.

          Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257981/Harriet-Harmans-unreliable-statistics-rape-scare-victims.html#ixzz24baWW4pe

          • weka

            The review by Baroness Stern appeared to put an end to years of claims by ministers that laws and criminal procedures for dealing with rape need radical reform because only six per cent of complaints end in a conviction.

            …The six per cent figure relates to reported cases. In fact, the conviction rate for those actually charged with rape is nearly two out of three, higher than comparable figures for other violent crime.


            Your link doesn’t prove anything k_p. I’m guessing that the difference in the rates is because the police and CPS are being much more selective in what they allow to go to trial ie only cases with a higher likelihood of success are prosecuted. This fits with the difficulty of trying rape cases because it relies on the testimony of the woman in a culture that routinely assumes women lie about rape, and that believes that certain kinds of rape aren’t ‘real’ rape.

            If you read the article, they are basically saying that stranger rape should be focussed on. Subtext = aquaintance rape, date rape, etc will have lower conviction rates so don’t focus on them.

            Hardly surprising to see the DM put such a distorted slant on rape stats, and it in no way supports your assertion that women routinely lie or that feminists misuse rape stats. You will have to do better than that.

            “Lady Stern said there should be more help for victims and greater use of police intelligence to track down men who serially attack and rape strangers.”

            Maybe she has been misquoted, but on the face of it she is hardly a credible expert when we know that most rape is done by men known to the victim.

        • kiwi_prometheus

          Lets not forget Weka, this is about an individual who threatens the powers that be, you know the ones you are usually raving on about as being evil.

          Suddenly he’s accused of sexual misconduct.

          Just a little bit suspicious wouldn’t you think?

          But the Feminist show their true colors acting as attack dogs for the Yanks. They are central actors in a trial by media.

          They want Assange forced back to Sweden where they can grab him take him back to Mickey Mouse Land and make an example of him for anyone else who is thinking of standing up to Yank imperial power.

          Some kind of Lefties the anti Assange crowd are. 🙄

          • felix

            “Suddenly he’s accused of sexual misconduct.

            Just a little bit suspicious wouldn’t you think?”

            Given the relatively frequent incidence of sexual abuse in general, no, not at all.

            Why do you find it so unbelievable that this particular man could be capable of sexual abuse?

            • kiwi_prometheus

              Because he pissed off powerful governments then suddenly sexual misconduct accusations pop up.

              Mere coincidence is it?

              You are so ideologically blinded, felix.

              You qualify for CIA Asset status.

              • felix

                Sexual abuse in all its various forms is fairly commonplace k_p, so no; there is no need for an astounding or unlikely coincidence.

                However your answer to my question seems to be that people who piss off powerful governments are less likely to be capable of sexual abuse than the general population.

                Now that would be an amazing coincidence, k_p.

              • RedLogix

                Equally is it possible that people who piss off powerful governments might have ‘politically useful’ sexual misconduct allegations brought against them? Are you characterising such a thing as an ‘amazing coincidence’ felix? Impossible even?

                • felix

                  No, and I’m pretty sure I haven’t suggested any such thing.

                  k_p though seems to be arguing that it would require an unlikely coincidence for someone to both “piss off powerful govts” and to be a sexual abuser as well.

                  I’d like to know why s/he thinks this is so unlikely but I’m not holding my breath.

                  • RedLogix

                    unlikely coincidence for someone to both “piss off powerful govts” and to be a sexual abuser as well.

                    On the contrary I agree with you felix. I think it’s almost a complete certainty that almost anyone who is sexually active could be compromised in this way.

                    Especially as no-one seems to be able to tell me exactly how one should go about establishing consent in Court … for each and every sex act you have ever been involved in.

                    • felix

                      I have no knowledge of or insight into the guilt or innocence in this specific case, so I haven’t commented or even privately formed any sort of opinion on it.

                    • weka

                      RL, do you understand the difference between sexual abuse and sexual activity? Because you appear to be confusing the two things.

                    • RedLogix


                      Given that the difference is largely predicated on consent … then yes that is the simplest way to characterise the difference. What I’m asking is how consent should be established in Court when there are no witnesses or corroborating evidence.

                      That’s a fair and logical question to ask surely?

                    • weka

                      The same way that all other crimes are dealt with in court when the only evidence is the word of the complainant vs the word of the defendant? eg A man physically assaults another man and no-one else sees.  Seriously, have you never thought about that before?
                      But forget about court for now, let me ask you again, do you understand the differences between sexual abuse and sexual activity? Forget about the Assange case, I mean the differences in general.

                    • RedLogix

                      A man physically assaults another man and no-one else sees.

                      In that event there would usually be some medical or physical evidence to corroborate the claims. Certainly a Court would expect such evidence to be presented if it existed.

                      In the complete absence of such evidence and it just came down to one person’s word against another; then such a case would be unlikely to get over the ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ hurdle. (As do many sexual offence prosecutions for exactly the same reason.)

                      But forget about court for now, let me ask you again, do you understand the differences between sexual abuse and sexual activity?

                      Given the enormously broad canvas of sexual activity that consenting adults routinely engage in; then I really cannot see a useful way of defining the difference in terms of sexual acts themselves. One person’s list of taboos is just as likely to another’s faves. Therefore it has to be something else that defines the difference … and the much used word ‘consent’ is the concept we usually fall back on.

                      Of course not all ‘consent’ is good consent. Often it could be elicited under dubious circumstances, or with the exploitation of a gross imbalance of power, or with one’s judgement dulled by alcohol. Often in these situations one person realises afterwards that they been exploited and feel awful about it… but given that they technically consented at the time … how should we make sense of this?

          • weka

            k_p, if you’ve been reading my comments recently you will know that I haven’t said that Assange is guilty, or that it’s not possible the powers of suppression aren’t using the woman complainants.
            It’s you that seems incapable of believing that some things are possible.
            For instance, if the behaviour the complainants claim is true, and if Assange behaves like that normally with women, then I would expect the CIA or whoever to know that and to use it to their advantage. That his behaviour could be used against him doesn’t mean the behaviour is ok or  not true.
            That’s all theortetical btw, I have not idea what went on.
            The fact that you cannot see all the possibilities here says more about your own ideas and attitudes about rape and women. But we knew that anyway from your general anti-feminism rants.

            • kiwi_prometheus

              Go ask the CIA for some pay.

            • RedLogix

              That’s all theortetical btw, I have not idea what went on.

              And indeed only several people do. Which prompts me to ask … exactly what do you mean by ‘consent’? Given that sex in our society mostly occurs in private what are we supposed to make of the plausible situation where one person says “I did have consent” and the other says “Well no I did not give consent”?

              I’m not being flippant. The failure to be able to determine consent in a Court of law means that you should be convicted of rape which is an offence somewhat worse than murder. So this is a serious question.

              • weka

                No, you’re not being flippant. I was going to say that this is a very important question. Much more important than whether Assange is guilty or not (that is also an important question, but one for the courts not public opinion).
                However, I see elsewhere you have made comment, again, about having to give/receive consent for every single sexual act you ever do, including historically. This puzzles me alot. It seems like a complete red herring to me, something that disrupts or distracts good communication about consent, but I can understand why some men start to feel very uncomfortable when talking about rape and realising that their own unclear boundaries may be suspect.
                “What is consent?” is a really big question, and apparently quite complex (although for some of us it is really very simple). I’d love to see a serious, intelligent debate about that here.
                I’ll start by saying that useful discussion about consent cannot be based on what a man needs to not be charged with rape in a court of law. It needs to start with looking at what is ok in terms of sexual behaviour between men and women.
                (and my apologies to all the people who have been sexually assaulted outside that male/female dynamic. Personally I think the core of understanding rape, and consent, is to look at power dynamics and it’s easiest to do that by looking at male rape of women. Once that is understood, other rapes can be better understood too).
                Consent is a baseline concept that exists to protect women in a society that doesn’t inherently allow women control of the bodies. But beyond that, it should be about mutuality. This means that one’s own sexual needs and ideas about sex don’t take precedence over the wellbeing of one’s sexual partner. This means you need to be able to communicate. This means if you don’t know, or if you have any doubts, then don’t do it until you do know. This means that any man reading the debate about Assange now has fair warning that many women do not consider it is acceptable for men to have sex with them when they are asleep. This means you have to ask. Why is that so hard to understand, and to do?
                I also think that there need to be clear societal guidelines about what rape is, and we don’t have anything close to consensus on that yet (thank-you rape culture). In order to understand consent you need to understand rape myths and how they sanction rape despite it being illegal.
                But really, why not listen to the women who say “this is not ok” and then start to think about what that means, for women? ie the people you want to have sex with. Because either women’s needs in this are important or they’re not, and whether you are willing to consider this as an absolute says much about whether you are willing to work with consent at the bottom line.

                • RedLogix

                  Sorry I missed your reply and I’ll carry on from here.

                  This means that any man reading the debate about Assange now has fair warning that many women do not consider it is acceptable for men to have sex with them when they are asleep.

                  But so far we have only had the complainants version of events. Too many people seem to have leapt to a whole lot of guilty verdicts based on just one side of the evidence.

                  And you also only have to look at one of the allegations against Assange which, from memory, was framed as “assault with an erect penis” to wonder exactly how basic male biology has now become a crime. (And what about erect clitoris’s … can they an commit an offence too?)

                  For most people their testosterone levels are highest at around dawn, and having morning sex with the person you had sex with the same evening earlier is pretty normal … and doesn’t feel like it demands another conversation around ‘consent’ or not. Complicating matters is that the difference between asleep, half-awake and fully alert is not always obvious to the other person. And while ‘many women’ may well feel one way about this .. not all do and given that most people don’t communicate honestly about their sexual desires and preferences then is it any wonder you complain of ‘unclear boundaries’.

                  Or putting it more plainly… if this person was happily fucking with me a few hours earlier … what would have realistically changed in the few hours that have passed since to change the basic consent conditions that applied when you got naked into the same bed together?

                  But I can accept you may have different perspective. Fine … but if you are going to demand a legally defend-able consent for every single sex act … then you really need to tell us how you think this can be achieved in practise.

                  • felix

                    Broadly speaking I understand the point you’re making and I don’t really disagree with you, but this is a really odd statement:

                    And you also only have to look at one of the allegations against Assange which, from memory, was framed as “assault with an erect penis” to wonder exactly some how basic male biology has now become a crime.

                    How do you get from a) an erect penis being used to assault someone, to b) having an erection being a crime?

                    Are you saying you don’t know how, say, a person’s hand can be used as a weapon but having hands isn’t a crime?

                    • RedLogix

                      How do you get from a) an erect penis being used to assault someone, to b) having an erection being a crime?

                      ermmm … by being naked together in the same bed?

                  • just saying

                    Or putting it more plainly… if this person was happily fucking with me a few hours earlier … what would have realistically changed in the few hours that have passed since to change the basic consent conditions that applied when you got naked into the same bed together?

                    Who hasn’t been in this situation – male or female? Surely the point isn’t whether your partner wanted to hours before, but whether they want to at a later point. And surely it is of great relevance and importance whether they want to have sex, as opposed to just whether you want to. And surely that is something it would be important to find out.

                    In a longer term relationship maybe you know (or maybe you just assume you know) whether your partner wants to wake up with you fucking him or her (or maybe just doesn’t care enough if you get it over and done with quickly, to insist on their own wishes.) But how could you assume this with a new partner?

                    Would it matter to you if they didn’t want to if you knew you could get away with it? (legalities aside for the moment)?

                    • RedLogix

                      However, I see elsewhere you have made comment, again, about having to give/receive consent for every single sexual act you ever do, including historically. This puzzles me a lot.

                      Let me relieve your puzzlement. If you decide afterwards that you didn’t give consent for a particular act … even if in good faith I had assumed implicit consent at the time… then at the very least I face an unpleasant police investigation, a permanent stain on my reputation … or the possibility of a very long prison sentence. You may consider all this a trifling but excuse me if I do not. But if as you wish we should set legalities aside … at the very least this also implies you have to set aside the word ‘rape’ which is a specific criminal offence.

                      So now this becomes a plain question of ethics. A fundamental problem in all ethics is how to deal with things that are done in secret. Without transparency, without openness, there is no possibility of holding actions to account. This is why all formal organisations keep minutes and records … so that there is a trail of evidence to support their actions.

                      Because we are a property owning culture, and sex is all about property rights to most people, we almost always conduct sex in secret. And negotiations done in secret are thus impossible to hold to account. Anyone else see a problem here?

        • Maui

          Thanks, I managed to read it .. and its all true.

          But it is also true that the image of Sweden and Scandinavia as a sexually and socially liberal nirvana are contradicted by the sort of neo-nazi right-wing underground described in Stig Larsson’s novels (“The Girl With the Red Tattoo”), and the events at Utoya. I find it hard to believe that Breivik had the capacity to do all that on his own.

          The investigative British author Nick Kollerstrom (‘Terror on the Tube’, examining the July 2005 London underground attacks) surmises that Breivik was probably on the island, but cannot be conclusively traced to the explosions in Oslo that same morning. The only proof is in the form of a clearly photo-shopped image of a ‘man in black’ who was purportedly seen by one witness, although it appears that he may have subsequently assumed that it was Breivik, after the enormous propaganda blitz.

          Wikileaks itself has been described as a ‘limited intelligence hangout’. Frankly, I don’t know – but some powerful people had strong motives to neutralise Assange.

          In short, the situation is probably more complex than it appears from the Antipodes.

          • kiwi_prometheus

            “but some powerful people had strong motives to neutralise Assange. ”

            He’s only pissed off the most powerful arseholes on this planet, lol.

            The Poms threatening to attack the Ecuadorean Embassy. They sure are motivated.

            Now there is a propaganda campaign against Ecuador’s Human Rights record. Maybe they can get prominent feminists help again, mouthing some more propaganda about Ecuador promoting “Rape Culture” and the regime being “anti feminist’.

            That will would get you feminist suckers on side.

            • Maui

              Well, some of my best friends are or have been feminists.
              Don’t stereotype us ..

            • Blue

              kiwi_p, have you ever considered counselling?

              Your obsession with feminism is disturbing. All your posts contains angry diatribes about feminism. You seem to turn every single topic into an anti-feminist rant.

              Is there really nothing else you are interested in?

          • Maui

            Probably ..

          • just saying

            Reply to Redlogix at 2.213 above.
            You’ve mixed up two different replies from two different people which confuses things.

            Because we are a property owning culture, and sex is all about property rights to most people, we almost always conduct sex in secret. And negotiations done in secret are thus impossible to hold to account. Anyone else see a problem here?

            I think this is the root of the problem. Sex, to me, has nothing whatsoever to do with property rights, it’s about mutual pleasure. Which is why I asked if it would matter to you if your partner didn’t want to have sex with you.

            • RedLogix

              Sex, to me, has nothing whatsoever to do with property rights, it’s about mutual pleasure.

              In which case … what’s your stance on monogamy? How about if you came home and found your partner in bed with another person … happily indulging in “mutual pleasure”? Would be happy for them? Ask to join in? Or would you react in rage and horror as the standard cultural narrative demands from us? (OK I know nothing about you personally but for the vast majority of people I’m on the money.)

              Or how about if you discovered that one of your children (assuming you were a man) was not actually your own? (In fact about 1 in 7 children does not have the father the mother claims it has.)

              Or how about if as a woman you caught you male partner flirting hard out with a cute young thing?

              Not the slightest trace of possessiveness?

              • just saying

                I’ve never felt I “owned” another person.
                Fidelty, promising to be faithful – whole different thing. Not about “ownership”.

                edit: How does the “ownership” model pertain to a one-night stand anyway?

                • RedLogix

                  I’ve never felt I “owned” another person. Fidelty, promising to be faithful – whole different thing.

                  That’s the story we tell ourselves; but what is ‘fidelity’ if not a form of implicit contract? It’s a deal is it not? “I won’t have sex with anyone else if you don’t”. Which implies a degree control over the other person and vice versa.

                  I wouldn’t labour this point except that virtually every Shortland St sub-plot and at least half of popular culture is built upon this idea.

                  • Carol

                    Ah, yes, soap operas continually use the romantic triangle to drive the drama, providing a fairly accessible way to construct tension/conflict.


                    Some see it as being based in the Oedipal triangle of psychoanalysis. But then, to me psychoanalysis is based in the nuclear family prevalent in western capitalism. I guess that also is linked to the notion of ownership of children.

                    But there are other kinds of love triangles eg between close friends. Many people seem to want to be the “favourite” of a person who is significant to them.

  3. Dr Terry 3

    Of course the unemployed are neither “idle,” nor necessarily more “unsuccessful” than anybody else. (Exactly, how do we begin to define “success”?) Certainly the unemployed are likely to feel vulnerable, (better, “victims”?) of an acquisitive society busily scapegoating them. (Ayn Rand described as desirable “ruthless selfishness” in society, and wow, how we are seeing this! Gore Vidal considered this opinion grossly immoral).

    Britons may well be the “worst idlers” in the world, but that does not apply particularly to unemployed folk as much as it might to the filthy rich, or to certain self-satisfied others.

    As incomes of the middle-classes continue to shrink, there is ever more likely to be a backlash against conservative politics which serve the wealthy and powerful, making future revolutions increasingly possible, if not inevitable.

    • blue leopard 3.1

      The issue regarding “idleness” is simply another case of divide and rule

      And I am repeating a comment I made on another thread because I feel its pertinent here.

      It is of great concern to me when our politicians play into the baser elements of our characters.

      I would like to see a point when this tactic of divide and rule gets seen for what it is, an unnecessary creator of disharmony amongst us and it gets to be such an embarrassment to those caught playing it, that it becomes an obsolete approach.

      I am completely fed up with this bulls** way of “managing” our countries affairs, which creates more damage than anything that is trying to be repaired by peddling such rubbish. Ultimately politics appears to have become NOTHING about moving forward positively together and ALL about politicians saying whatever it takes so that they can get the salary of being in office.

      Ultimately intelligence is our strength and saving grace, we all need to start applying it.

    • blue leopard 3.2

      …and this issue of inequality indicates a COMPLETE FAILURE of all politicians in western countries. (at least)

      While I acknowledge being a politician is not an easy job, I don’t consider that this issue surrounding inequality and the inevitable negative consequences to ALL members of society is so debatable that it need be left unaddressed for as long as it has, nor so difficult to address that it needs to be getting as extreme as it is.

      Inequality in western nations is an utterly inexcusable PROFOUND failure of our governments and the more people that see this, the quicker we will start to see positive progress in a lot of areas of our communities.

  4. Draco T Bastard 4

    (nicely satirised by The Onion)

    Raging Grannies

  5. If Assange gets to Sweden he will disappear suddenly, and guess what, be found again some time later in Guantanamo.
    Why when Assange was interviewed for these rape allegations, he remained in Sweden as no charges were brought – then the new woman public prosecutor arrived in the scene and it suddenly became all on ?
    That’s when the smell began.
    Sweden is playing to the USA like the UK.
    Like New Zealand and Dotcom – but no rape suggestion here.

    • Maui 5.1

      Olaf Palme, R.I.P
      Anna Lindh, R.I.P.

    • Maui 5.2

      Good point.

      • McFlock 5.2.1

        No, it’s not.
        1: Fortran is making categorical predictions about rendition that s/he has no grounds for believing are anywhere near a certainty.
        2: The women’s lawyer appealed the initial “no prosecution” decision, so it was referred to another prosecutor who made a different decision. It’s called “process”.


        • Maui

          Fair enough ..

        • bad12

          A procession of process, sort of a ‘if at first you don’t succeed sort of thing, it ain’t quite at the point of trying someone until you get the verdict you want,but, it’s going that way,

          Sort of like ancient witch trials, if they survive the first dunking underwater that just proves the witchery…

          • McFlock

            Yeah, damned complainants having right of appeal if they think their complaint wasn’t taken seriously.

  6. Maui 6

    “Why when Assange was interviewed for these rape allegations, he remained in Sweden as no charges were brought – then the new woman public prosecutor arrived in the scene and it suddenly became all on ?
    That’s when the smell began.”

    It implies that if Assange had a guilty conscience at that point, he would not have remained in Sweden. It can be interpreted in a number of different ways.

  7. fnjckg 7

    re all this rape
    regrettably, much, much more rape yet to come
    a great sadness

  8. Tom 8

    [lprent: Banned for 3 weeks for idiotic link-whoring across posts ]

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  • Bill to Amend the Greater Christchurch Regeneration Act
    Speeding up the return of Christchurch regeneration activities to local leadership is behind the Greater Christchurch Regeneration Amendment Bill introduced to Parliament today by Minister Megan Woods. “As we approach nine years since the February 2011 earthquake in Canterbury, and with the transition to local leadership well underway, the time ...
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  • Milford Track to partly reopen after storm damage
    Hundreds of New Zealanders and international visitors will be able to get back out into nature with the Milford Track partially reopening next week, after extensive assessments and repairs, the Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage announced today. The popular Great Walk has been closed since 3 February after an extreme ...
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    11 hours ago
  • Government drives low-emissions transport momentum
    Up to 110 new EV chargers nationwide in cities and regions 50 electric vehicles for ride-sharing The Government is helping deliver more infrastructure and options for low emissions transport through new projects, Energy and Resources Minister Dr Megan Woods says. Tauranga, Nelson, Levin, New Plymouth and Oamaru are just some ...
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    18 hours ago
  • Kiwis better off under Coalition Government
    New Zealanders are increasingly better off under this Government as wages rise and families have more disposable income, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. Stats NZ reported today that average household disposable incomes after housing costs rose 4.9% in 2019. This was the highest rise in four years and came as ...
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  • Another step towards restoring rights for screen production workers
    All New Zealanders need to have their voices heard at work to ensure we have an inclusive and productive economy. Today we introduce a Bill to do this for workers in the New Zealand screen industry, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “The Screen Industry Workers Bill will ...
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    2 days ago
  • Enhanced Taskforce Green for Southland and South Otago
    The Government has announced further help for the Southland and Otago regions to speed up recovery efforts from the floods.  “I’ve approved Enhanced Taskforce Green (ETFG), making $500,000 available to help with the clean-up in Fiordland, Southland, and the Clutha district in Otago,” Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni said.  ...
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  • Employers and Industry take the lead to connect students to vocational education
    Following the announcement that more than 340 schools will be funded to run events promoting vocational education, the Government has announced it will fund a further 257 events to be run by employers and industry. “These industry-run events will allow more than 30,000 students to connect with more than 2,000 ...
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    2 days ago
  • Rental reforms a step closer with the introduction of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill
    Today the Government is making progress on a fairer and more secure rental market for renters and landlords with the introduction of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill in Parliament.  “This Bill includes a series of reforms to improve the wellbeing of the 609,700 households that live in rented homes, and ...
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  • Biosecurity Minister announces world first eradication of pea weevil
    A Government programme to wipe out pea weevil has achieved a world first, with Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor today announcing the successful eradication of the noxious pest from Wairarapa. This means the nearly four-year ban on pea plants and pea straw was lifted today. Commercial and home gardeners can again grow ...
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  • Temporary Accommodation Service activated for Southland flooding
    Southland residents hit by flooding caused by heavy rainfall can now access help finding temporary accommodation with the Government activating the Temporary Accommodation Service, Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare announced today. “The Temporary Accommodation Service (TAS) has been activated by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment to help ...
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  • Bridges: Over-hyped and under-delivered
    “Is that it?” That’s Finance Minister Grant Robertson’s response to Simon Bridges’ much-hyped economic speech today. “Simon Bridges just gave the most over-hyped and under-delivered speech that I can remember during my time in politics,” Grant Robertson said. “It’s not surprising. Simon Bridges literally said on the radio this morning ...
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    3 days ago
  • Police to trial eye in the sky in Christchurch
    A trial deployment of the Police Eagle helicopter in Christchurch will test whether the aircraft would make a significant difference to crime prevention and community safety. “The Bell 429 helicopter will be based in Christchurch for five weeks, from 17 February to 20 March,” said Police Minister Stuart Nash. “The ...
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    3 days ago
  • Momentum of trade talks continues with visits to promote Pacific and Middle East links
    The Government has kept up the pace of its work to promote New Zealand’s trade interests and diversify our export markets, with visits to Fiji and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) by Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker. Building momentum to bring the PACER Plus trade and development agreement ...
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    3 days ago
  • Coalition Govt’s investment in Customs nets record drugs haul: 3 tonnes stopped at borders in 2019
    The Coalition Government’s investment in a strong border and disrupting transnational organised crime produced record results for stopping drugs in 2019, says Minister of Customs Jenny Salesa. The illegal drugs were seized at the New Zealand border by Customs, and overseas by Customs’ international border partners before the drugs could ...
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    3 days ago
  • Separated scenic cycleway starts
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today kicked off construction of a separated cycleway alongside Tamaki Drive. A two-way separated cycleway will be built along the northern side of Tamaki Drive, between the Quay Street Cycleway extension and Ngapipi Road. There will be a separate walking path alongside. Phil Twyford said giving ...
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    4 days ago
  • Earthquake-Prone Building loan scheme: eligibility criteria announced
    Owner-occupiers of unit and apartments living in earthquake-prone buildings will have certainty about the financial support they’ll be eligible for with the release of criteria for an upcoming assistance scheme, Minister for Building and Construction Jenny Salesa says. The Residential Earthquake-Prone Building Financial Assistance Scheme will help unit owners facing ...
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    4 days ago
  • Travel restrictions to remain in place as coronavirus precaution
    Temporary restrictions on travel from China will remain in place as a precautionary measure to protect against the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus. The restrictions which prevent foreign nationals travelling from, or transiting through, mainland China from entering New Zealand have been extended for a further 8 days. This position ...
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    5 days ago
  • Over $1 million to help Tairāwhiti youth into employment
    Employment Minister Willie Jackson announced today that Tairāwhiti rangatahi will benefit from an investment made by the Government’s He Poutama Rangatahi (HPR) scheme. The funding will go to the Tautua Village, Kauneke programme and the Matapuna Supported Employment Programme which will fund 120 rangatahi over two years. “Both programmes work ...
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    5 days ago
  • School attendance has to improve
    All parents and caregivers need to ensure that their children go to school unless they are sick, Associate Education Minister Tracey Martin said today. “The school attendance results for 2019 show, across the board, a drop in the number of students going to school regularly,” the Minister says. “Apart from ...
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    6 days ago
  • Crown and Moriori sign a Deed of Settlement
    A Deed of Settlement agreeing redress for historical Treaty claims has been signed by the Crown and Moriori at Kōpinga Marae on Rēkohu (Chatham Islands) today, Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Andrew Little has announced. Moriori have a tradition of peace that extends back over 600 years. This settlement ...
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    6 days ago
  • Waikato Expressway driving towards completion
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today with Māori King Tuheitia Pōtatau Te Wherowhero VII officially opened the country’s newest road, the $384 million Huntly section of the Waikato Expressway. The 15km four-lane highway with side and central safety barriers takes State Highway 1 east of Huntly town, across lowlands and streams ...
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    6 days ago
  • 3400 New Zealanders treated in first year of new hepatitis C treatment
    The rapid uptake of life-saving new hepatitis C medicine Maviret since it was funded by PHARMAC a year ago means the elimination of the deadly disease from this country is a realistic goal, Health Minister David Clark says. Hepatitis C is a blood-borne virus which attacks the liver, proving fatal ...
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    6 days ago
  • Kaupapa Māori approach for homelessness
      Kaupapa Māori will underpin the Government’s new plan to deal with homelessness announced by the Prime Minister in Auckland this morning. “Māori are massively overrepresented among people experiencing homelessness, so, to achieve different outcomes for Māori, we have to do things very differently,” says the Minister of Māori Development ...
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    7 days ago
  • Government steps up action to prevent homelessness
    1000 new transitional housing places delivered by end of year to reduce demand for emergency motel accommodation. Introduce 25% of income payment, after 7 days, for those in emergency motel accommodation to bring in line with other forms of accommodation support. Over $70m extra to programmes that prevents those at ...
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    7 days ago
  • Important step for new financial conduct regime
    Clear requirements for ensuring customers are treated fairly by banks, insurers and other financial service providers are included in new financial conduct legislation that passed its first reading today. “The recent reviews, by the Financial Markets Authority (FMA) and Reserve Bank of New Zealand, into the conduct of banks and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Applications invited for $7 million Regional Culture and Heritage Fund
    Applications are now open for the fifth round of the Regional Culture and Heritage Fund Associate Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Grant Robertson announced today.   “I am delighted to open this year’s fund which has some $7 million available to support performing arts venues, galleries, museums and whare ...
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    1 week ago
  • Law Commission appointment celebrates Māori and women
    The Minister of Māori Development, Hon Nanaia Mahuta today congratulated Associate Professor Amokura Kawharu on her appointment as the next President of the Law Commission.  “Amokura Kawharu will be a standout in her new role, leading in an innovative and forward looking approach to the law reform process. She will ...
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  • Associate Professor Amokura Kawharu Appointed Law Commission President
    Auckland University legal academic Amokura Kawharu has been appointed as the next President of the Law Commission, Justice Minister Andrew Little announced today.    Associate Professor Kawharu will take up her new appointment on 11 May 2020.   “I would like to congratulate Associate Professor Kawharu on her appointment,” Andrew ...
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  • Minister of Employment launches Youth Ready Employer Programme
    A programme for employers to help them engage effectively with younger employees was launched today by Minister of Employment, Willie Jackson. The Youth Ready Employer Programme contains a range of on-line templates that employers can easily access to help with employing and retaining young people in their businesses. The programme ...
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    1 week ago
  • Budget 2020 date announced
    Budget 2020 will be delivered on Thursday 14 May, Finance Minister Grant Robertson announced today. “This year’s Budget will continue the Coalition Government’s focus on tackling the long-term challenges facing New Zealand while also preparing the economy for the future. “Those challenges and opportunities cannot be resolved in one budget, ...
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    1 week ago
  • Prime Minister’s tribute to former Prime Minister Mike Moore
    I move, That this House place on record its appreciation and thanks for the devoted and distinguished service to New Zealand by the late Rt Hon Michael Kenneth Moore, member of the Order of New Zealand, a member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, an Honorary Member of the ...
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    1 week ago
  • Agriculture Minister declares adverse event in Northland
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has today classified the drought conditions in Northland as an adverse event for the primary sector, unlocking $80,000 in Government support. “This is recognition that the extreme and prolonged nature of this dry spell is taking its toll on our farmers and growers and additional support ...
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    1 week ago
  • Police disrupt methamphetamine trade
    The Minister of Police says an operation to smash a trans national drug smuggling ring today will make a significant impact on the methamphetamine trade fuelling harm in our communities. Police have announced 10 arrests and the seizure of up to five million dollars’ worth of illicit drugs after an ...
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    1 week ago
  • Crown accounts in good shape to counter global challenges
    The Government’s books are in a strong position to withstand global headwinds, with the accounts in surplus and expenses close to forecast, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Treasury today released the Crown accounts for the six months to December. The operating balance before gains and losses (OBEGAL) was above ...
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  • Racing Safety Development Fund open for applications
    Race courses can improve safety with this year’s second round of funding from the Racing Safety Development Fund. Minister for Racing Winston Peters has announced the second funding round of 2019/20 is open with $347,875 available for distribution. “The racing industry is integral to the economic and social fabric of ...
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    1 week ago
  • Strengthening New Zealand’s Immunisation System
    Hundreds of thousands of young adults will be offered measles vaccinations in a new campaign to strengthen New Zealand’s immunisation system, Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter said at its launch in Auckland today. “About 300,000 young adults aged between 15 and 29 are not fully protected against measles, and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government to fund Aids research
    The Government is committing $300,000 to fund research to update behavioural information to make sure HIV and STI prevention services are targeted appropriately in New Zealand. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Finance Minister Grant Robertson made the announcement at today’s Big Gay Out in Auckland. “There is much talk about ...
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    1 week ago