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The daily critics whinge

Written By: - Date published: 4:09 pm, April 16th, 2021 - 22 comments
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I was just reading a post by Bryan Gould, ex-politician and ex-university vice-chancellor on his current perspective on news media in “The Government v. the people“. It resonated because frankly the news and opinion media are getting increasingly tedious.

We can all agree that a free press (and free media more generally) are important factors in a well-functioning democracy. But I am beginning to wonder if they provide us with an unalloyed benefit.

I am an avid consumer of daily news – whether delivered by the press or by the broadcast media. And I have begun to notice what seems to be an increasing trend. What is regarded as “news” seems increasingly to fall within a particular category.

Most news bulletins these days seem to comprise items of one particular kind. It seems that any individual or organisation can guarantee coverage as an item of “news” if they make a complaint – any complaint – to the effect that “the government” has somehow failed – has somehow done something that it should’t have, or has not done what it should have, or has acted, but “too little, too late”, or has listened to the wrong people, or has spent too little or too much, or has displeased them in some way.

Complaints about the government seem to be manna from heaven to the news reporters. They require very little work – that can be left to, and has presumably already been done by, the complainant. All that is necessary is to offer the complainant a platform and – hey presto! – you have a news story.

And there is always the even more welcome opportunity to put a government spokesperson on the spot, and to require them – whether or not the complaint has any substance – to account for themselves.

I should make it clear that, although I am a supporter of the present government, the trend seems to have established itself over recent years, whatever colour the government of the day might be.

This is exactly the case for what passes as for most of our written local political news and even in large chunks of our ‘business’ news.

I can’t say much about other NZ media apart from text online sites. I don’t watch broadcast news any more. It is simply too shallow, too slow, and a waste of my time. Radio isn’t much better except on the odd occasions when you get a skilled interviewer asking intelligent well-informed questions of someone interesting. Since you never know when this is on, I usually listen after the fact by picking up a link in a comment or post by someone who I know has good instincts. Usually on headphones when I’m on the bike on even in the car and I can find the stream.

The kind of critical bitching the Bryan is describing is just tedious. Especially when the critics do what critics do. They can criticise, but seldom, if ever, offer a alternate viable solution. Usually they’re notable for saying what is wrong with whatever, bringing nothing to the table of debate, and being about as thin skinned as it is possible to be when criticised themselves. They frequently bring some appalling self-entitled personality traits and slaver over their heros with similar traits.

You only have to look at the perennial critic Mike Hosking for the epitome of that. In my opinion, as well as having an simpleton’s view of what politics and business is about, he appears to alternate between being a metaphorical brown-nosing arselicker with someone that he likes (eg John Key or Stuart Nash), and obviously misogynist neanderthal trying to dominate with self-obsessed nonsense with every women that he disagrees with. All in all a pointless waste of time as a journalist or even as an opinion-writer. Like a number of others, he is a unproductive and pretty useless parasite in the dialogue that is our society.

When you compare him and his ilk with journalists like Rod Stock, Jenny Ruth, Jamie Morton, Andrea Vance and even the sometimes slightly odious but interestingly slanted Henry Cooke (and many more), personally I wonder at why in the hell they’re in media. I can only guess that it is for their entertainment value?

Back to Bryan Gould…

But, you might say, isn’t that the role of the news media, to hold those who govern us to account?

Yes, of course, but if it becomes the mainstay and staple diet of the news media, it can deliver an unwelcome injury to our democracy and convey a mischievous, damaging and inaccurate picture of its operation .

It can offer, all too easily, a view of public affairs as, essentially, “the people” against, and the victims of, “the government” – and that would do no one any good. The proper functioning of democratic government is subject to quite enough challenges, not least from the social media, without concocting a false dichotomy between the popular will and the functions of government.

The USA offers us an uncomfortable picture and warning of what happens when large numbers lose confidence, not just in a particular government, but in the whole concept of government in general.

Indeed. I’d like to think that over the 13 years and 8 months this site has been running while we don’t mind kicking the shit out of whoever is in the current government and opposition, most of the authors posts have also spent time saying how they think whatever they’re criticising could and should be changed to.

With the news media, it is a little different. They tend to be more thin-skinned and don’t seem to take criticism very well. There were some notable exceptions especially after some realised just how much they were being used, manipulated and scammed by Cameron Slater and his offsiders.

But realistically the most effective signal to media seems to be to just walk away from crap media. I decided years ago that I didn’t like time wasting advertisements and restrictive licensing. Because I had the resources to do it, I walked away to having a thick data pipe and large storage. These days the storage is quiescent and I pay for a wide range of streamed media.

Increasingly, I’m doing the same with news media. I don’t use facebook or twitter much. But I pay for decent quality streams of news. The price of the donations and even the paywalls is still steadily falling, and increasingly the costs of production of providing a media stream are falling as well. I still have no idea where the balance point is. But selection of news media by the technically savvy is now becoming more normal, as their usage or lousy curated tools like facebook and twitter diminishes. I’d expect that trend will feed out into the rest of the world over time.

For peoples interest and to explain from where I’m talking, the image below is my phones news folder. I read most of these each morning in bed after waking and before coffee. Then each evening before dozing off. Sometimes I even read it during the day – especially during long tedious compiles of linux disk images and the like.

I have subscriptions to the pay walled items in here. It is a moving feast because when I don’t like something, I stop the subscription and throw the link away. This gets shuffled periodically according to the value I find from the link and is slanted towards the early morning read . It is roughly in the order of essential to not-completely-useless.

For NZ news I’m pretty much orientated towards long-term politics (who really gives a stuff about the daily beltway gossip?), business, actual legislation (mostly I read the parliamentary notification emails), and the other more serious structural issues. I read world news first in the morning and then skip world news in the local media.

When you look at NZ sites these days for me with my politics and business focus, it is BusinessDesk for detailed in-depth on the things I like to know about, Stuff for straight news across the country, RNZ for more in-depth on specific topics.

The NZ Herald is rapidly trending towards useless – primarily because of a preponderance of the kind of clip-the-ticket criticism for column lines articles that Gould described. Promotional waffle from the property market, and stupid puff pieces about sport and TV shows that I never watch really don’t do much for me and wading through it on a phone is tedious.

I’d have dumped the Herald already if it wasn’t NZ news. Most of the ‘political’ news, opinions and commentary is just the kind of repetitive whining that Bryan Gould is referring to. Much of which when you walk back a couple of months was complete trash in the light of subsequent events. Their campaigns for open up the borders rapidly switching into close the borders to complaints about the borders is about as useful as a ditherer trying to decide on a business plan.

As it is, I have to drop straight into the business news to get realistic political information. You really notice the difference when the best main articles in the NZ Herald are from other offshore news papers – and where I have already read those usually in the original site. The difference between Stuff and the Herald – at least Stuff has the regional news that gives a broader picture than just the conservative middle class in Auckland.

Poilitik is more of an occasional publisher as is The Standard. I apologise to my fellow authors here, but I have to say that I often read The Standard in the morning simply to get the updated RSS feed on other sites and blogs. Like me, I suspect that most of the authors have a lack of time coupled with a writers fatigue. I get paid for writing verifiable code, not for blathering on in something as imprecise as English. All our authors have other priorities.

Newshub fell off my list a long time ago as a useless mainly trivia site. It is almost an exemplar of the simple critic of government site and seems to display the same moral and legal standards as talk back radio. The Spinoff specialises in a shallow inconsistency and appears to mainly about a something or another cultural element that I have never seen nor done – with just a few excellent pieces that someone will .

Someday I must have another look around. A possible guide is the News Publishers’ Association awards just published in the last couple of days.

22 comments on “The daily critics whinge ”

  1. mac1 1

    "The USA offers us an uncomfortable picture and warning of what happens when large numbers lose confidence, not just in a particular government, but in the whole concept of government in general."

    Very true, and why I hate the meme "Don't vote. It only encourages them".

    Instead, the message should be, "Get involved in politics. Engage. Join a party. Help forge policy. Select worthy candidates. Attend meetings. Vote."

    That way we get mass participation, mass buy-in to our democracy, better politicians and policies.

    On Tuesday I'll attend a meeting held by our local branch with visiting speakers on local housing- a chance to be informed, talk politics, even give a message.

    What the media have in essence been doing with lazy, gotcha journalism is to create disrespect and distrust in politics. We don't need that especially in crisis times.

    As Gould finishes, “Without an effective government, we are all at the mercy of the powerful, the selfish and the ruthless.”

    Thanks for the post and the direction to Gould's piece.

    • RosieLee 1.1

      Instead, the message should be, "Get involved in politics. Engage. Join a party. Help forge policy. Select worthy candidates. Attend meetings. Vote."

      Tried that. Hasn't worked.

    • Foreign waka 1.2

      mac 1 – I think the train has left the station, we are at the mercy of the powerful for quite some time. People who are new to the parliamentary system have to find out and its a slow process. But look at those who proclaimed what they will do and now…… only the ones who are truly inept are left to talk.
      If you look across the social landscape, all you hear is failure in housing, infrastructure, income inadequacy, medical provider neglect and schools are in no better state. Needless to say that all these headings are core government functions.

      As Gould finishes, “Without an effective government, we are all at the mercy of the powerful, the selfish and the ruthless.”

      • mac1 1.2.1

        The train is still on the tracks, though, with a load to haul. We just need to ensure the driver is a good unionist, the Railways are in public hands, and the signals remain green (it's a bugger the analogy breaks down there as I would like the proceed signals to be red).

        As Robert Johnson sang, "When the train left the station, it had two lights on behind x2 The red light was for my baby and the blue light was my mind. All my love's in vain".

        It's never in vain. The fight continues. It always will, human nature being as it is.

  2. AB 2

    Gould (and you) are bang on. What makes the whole thing even sillier, is that most of the complaints being aired are just the normal 'noise' (minor stuff-ups, inconsistencies, delays, marginal oddities) you get with large, complicated systems or initiatives. If people don't expect some of these they are naive, if they do expect them and complain anyway for political purposes, they are disingenuous.
    In part it’s because political debate now shies away from ideology and ethics, and prefers to focus on bogus arguments about supposed ‘competence’.

  3. Anne 3

    And just to prove Brian Gould's points – and indeed yours lprent – here is today's link to a suspiciously bullshit opinion piece courtesy of one, Derek Cheng, NZ Herald columnist:


    Don't ask me exactly what he's on about because it's behind a paywall and I don't subscribe to paywalls. Suffice to say, I have read the paper version of some of his past contributions and to say they have sometimes left me gasping with disbelief is an understatement.

    • Rosemary McDonald 3.1

      Don't ask me exactly what he's on about ….

      Pretty much along the lines of this…https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/chris-bishop-chl-e-swarbrick-unite-in-criticism-of-labour-s-patsy-questioning-of-officials.html

      ….only Cheng describes the behaviour of the Labour members of the Health Select committee as "indefensible". I am inclined to agree.

      Did you know returnees spend 14 days in MIQ after they arrive in New Zealand? Or that Covid-19 can be transmitted via air particles as well as droplets?

      The Labour MPs on Parliament's health committee apparently have such an insufficient grasp of such issues that they needed a 20-minute "idiot's guide" presentation from the heads of Health and MBIE this week.

      Such was the parade of inanities that Speaker Trevor Mallard penalised his own party the following day, giving National MP Chris Bishop four extra supplementary questions for Question Time – even though Mallard has no jurisdiction over select committees.

      it's behind a paywall and I don't subscribe to paywalls.

      I find myself regretting having signed up last year during Lockdown, especially when some of those paywalled articles feature loud advertisements that can't even be muted. However. I enjoy reading the news…and while its taken a while for me to catch on to the idea…not paying something seems akin to stealing a newspaper from the dairy.

      I am seriously considering subscribing to Stuff.

  4. Pat 4

    Yes Gould had a good point to make however for it to hold more water the political class needs to considerably up their game and stop giving the media (and their opposition, not just political) so much ammunition to use against them.

  5. Tiger Mountain 5

    Well, Mr Lprent seems to have a few Gouldist ‘culprits’ as regulars going by his screen–as many perhaps do.

    Being interested in local Govt. affairs, and into community action (note to some: away from keyboard), https://www.rnz.co.nz/ldr/about is a great initiative imo.

    Who knows yet if it has worked, but I can say that local media online comments have certainly become more positive. Councillors no longer can keep matters in meeting rooms.

    • greywarshark 5.1

      I agree with the value of local reporting on Radionz. I can't see anything but a deterioration in reporting quality, style, content etc if there is an amalgamation with television. As was a catchphrase from a tv show of the past, 'Never mind the quality, feel the width' will be the covering quote by those responsible when the deficiencies become apparent.

      Our government members of either type seem inadequate for the job of making reasoned, practical decisions. Another saying is about sending boys (girls) to do a man's (woman's) job. If they aren't going to do anything about the important tasks staring them in the face, it would be better if they didn't drive us to distraction by messing with things that are actually working satisfactorily.

  6. Ad 6

    One can't help but point out that the Government proposal to merge TVNZ and RNZ into an amalgamated entity could assist in raising public discourse. We are little closer to this proposal than when Labour came in.

    It would also help if this government generated public discourse worth raising. Outside of Covid response it's one of the most timid and least effective governments since Holyoake's second term.

    • Incognito 6.1

      Heh! Arguably, some people are not afraid of failing, but they’re afraid of succeeding.

  7. Stuart Munro 7

    Stuff lifted its game subsequent to its change of ownership, and my hope is that whatever brute beast emerges from the merger of TV1 and RNZ, it prioritizes quality journalism and leaves uninformed opinion to tabloids like The Herald.

    I too have given up on local tv – the presenters aren't up to informing, nor are the idiot panels entertaining. Perhaps they could draw some kiwis back from Al Jazeera – where some few went when local services cut back on quality journalism.

  8. Incognito 8

    Thank you for that, in more than one way.

    Bryan Gould’s second-to-last sentence:

    There is all the difference in the world between holding government agents to account for failures on particular issues, and allowing an anti-government sentiment to take root.


    I think this is definitely happening; both the Opposition and a segment of the commentariat on this site are sliding down the slope of antagonistic anti-government sentiment with their nihilistic sloganeering and acerbic negativity for the sake of it. The media are just playing to these sentiments, as they know what makes people tick and click. Yes, it is corrosive, erosive and destructive in the long-term; the worst consequence is that it sows distrust in fellow humans and breeds alienation and xenophobia.

    • Pat 8.1

      For the "sake of it: or because its justified.?….it increasingly looks to me like the later.

      • Incognito 8.1.1

        Of course, people who do this can and do ‘justify’ their “antagonistic anti-government sentiment with their nihilistic sloganeering and acerbic negativity for the sake of it”. It typifies their senseless rants that translate into nothing but impervious inaction; perpetual whingers, as per the OP.

  9. left for dead 9

    Thank you for this OP,I was starting to think I was alone with these sentaments.

    P.S how can I spellcheck,being dyslexic(I have it written beside my computer)Can drive one mad and slow, if not completely stymie writing.

    • Incognito 9.1

      In the TS text editor, you can see squiggly red lines under words that may be misspelt.

  10. Doogs 10

    Lprent – no space on your phone for AlJazeera? I like it for a world perspective. Also, I have to agree with you about The Spinoff. It really seems to be a rather motley collection of blogs and, yes, lots of cultural and artsy fartsy stuff. I also note you make no mention of Newsroom. News wise they are quite good and they often have really good long form investigative articles.

  11. left for dead 11

    mispel does not support is what pops up @Incognito. I'm running Linix, Kabuntu some thing or other.

    Cheers for the reply though,regards Alex

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  • NZ economy’s strong momentum will support rebound from Delta outbreak; COVID fund replenished
    The economy showed strong momentum in the period leading up to the recent Delta COVID-19 outbreak, which bodes well for a solid economic rebound, Grant Robertson said. GDP rose 2.8 percent in the June quarter, following on from a 1.4 percent increase in the previous March quarter. This was a ...
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  • Projects create benefits into the future
    Making a well-known lake swimmable and helping to halt the decline of the endangered hoiho/yellow-eyed penguins are among a suite of new projects being supported by the Government’s Jobs for Nature programme across the southern South Island, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says. “It’s no secret that many of our most ...
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  • Opening statement for Whāriki Indigenous Small Business Roundtable
      Kei ngā tōpito e wha o te āo e rere ana te mihi maioha ki a koutou nō tawhiti, nō tata mai e tāpiri ana ki tēnei taumata kōrero mo te ao hokohoko arā mā ngā pākihi mo ngā iwi taketake Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa – Pai Mārire.  ...
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  • New members appointed to Kāpuia
    The Government is adding four additional members to Kāpuia, the Ministerial Advisory Group on the Government’s Response to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the terrorist attack on Christchurch mosques. “I’m looking forward to having Pamela MacNeill, Huia Bramley, Melani Anae and Katherine Dedo  join Kāpuia and contribute to this group’s ...
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  • Timeline confirmed for Emissions Reductions Plan
    Cabinet has agreed to begin consulting on the Emissions Reduction Plan in early October and require that the final plan be released by the end of May next year in line with the 2022 Budget, the Minister of Climate Change, James Shaw confirmed today. “Cabinet’s decision allows organisations and communities ...
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  • Pay parity pathway for early learning teachers confirmed
    Pay parity conditions and higher funding rates for education and care services will come into force on 1 January, 2022, Minister of Education Chris Hipkins confirmed today. The Government signalled this work in Budget 2021. “From 1 January, 2022, centres opting into the scheme will receive government funding and be ...
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  • Speech to the New Zealand Nurses Organisation Conference 2021
    Kia Ora tatau katoa.   Ka tuku mihi ki nga nēhi, He pou Hauora o Aotearoa, E ora ai tatou.   Whakatau mai  I runga i te kaupapa o te ra Te NZNO conference.   Tena koutou tena koutou Tena tatou katoa   Good morning, and thank you inviting me ...
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