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The definitive voting guide for 2017

Written By: - Date published: 2:45 pm, May 5th, 2017 - 27 comments
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27 comments on “The definitive voting guide for 2017 ”

    • mickysavage 1.1

      The crisis they are talking about was apparently created by the RMA. Still lala land stuff.

      • Gosman 1.1.1

        Not really. The issue is there is not enough land being released for houses. Even Labour acknowledges that.

        • Except their fix won’t release more suitable land, it’ll release more unsuitable land. And we saw what that can look like in certain areas of Christchurch, so maybe we shouldn’t be so fast to talk about gutting the RMA as a “solution” just because we all acknowledge more land for housing is one step that will help.

          • Gosman

            The Greens and Labour still require more land to be released (or at least re-zoned for greater density). Where are these 100,000 additional houses going to be built? That will likely mean greater demand for land AND then even higher housing prices.

        • Draco T Bastard

          No matter how much land is released there will still be a crisis – especially once we run out of land.

          And that’s not even taking into account the economics of sprawl.

          It’s not the lack of land that’s the problem but the fact that we’re not building up and going for higher density but more liveable cities.

          • Gosman

            We are unlikely to run out of land. NZ people per hectare is low by World Standards for an urbanised society.

            • Draco T Bastard

              NZ people per hectare is low by World Standards for an urbanised society.

              And that would be because we keep adding to the uneconomic sprawl of our cities rather than building up which, of course, increases the amount of land used per person thus decreasing the amount of land available faster.

              So, yeah, under the delusional ideology of the right-wing we’d run out of land pretty quick.

              You can’t have your cake and eat it too

        • Muttonbird


          The issue is an lack of central government vision on infrastructure (while importing huge numbers of people) which has led to the Auckland council not being able to release land for fear of making serious long term city design and transport mistakes.

          It is politically expedient for greedy RWNJs to concentrate the blame for a lack of housing development at Auckland Council when the real problem is poor management by the National government in infrastructure modelling which has been compounded by poor immigration management over the last 9 years.

        • lloyd

          There definitely isn’t enough land for the 450 metre square ranch style dwelling with four car garage that the cabinets’ mates build. I mean you do need at least one hectare to put in a decent drive and a practice golf hole in the front yard.

        • saveNZ

          Yes as well as the mythical ‘land crisis’ which does not exist (it’s a building crisis stupid, or more to the point the cost of producing a building in this country is well beyond the wages of most people to afford, so we have to import people in and create an economy based on a ponzi construction model)

          – there is also the Natz and ACT idea that like pigs we fly around, because even if there were housing, then we can’t get around because some dimwits never put in public transport that people can afford that has links back to people’s houses so they can get home and works.

          And to top it off, somehow every time it rains, sewerage goes into our beaches. This was supposed to be stopped years ago, but apparently in spite of all the extra water charges, extra compliance for everybody with septic tanks – this was never solved.

          So for every person we now don’t have enough houses, they can’t get from A to B with absurd public transport and gridlocked roads and their shit goes into the harbour every time we have a huge down pour.

          • Gosman

            Ummm… no it isn’t a building crisis. Land by far makes up the majority of the rise in the cost of housing over the past few years

            • saveNZ

              so the right wingers keep telling us….funny though even the off shore construction companies are complaining about the cost of building here…

              And in Auckland for every house being demolished, another bigger one is coming up. (p.s. that’s not increasing housing, even though the figures record it as such).

              The council love it and rubber stamp every consent – but again, it’s making housing less affordable and blocking out amenity – like sun – which in the age of solar and oil crisis is not going to end well as well as making future houses colder and damper and having to spend more on artificial heating options that increasingly people can’t afford. I guess that’s capitalism!
              Apparently NZ has some of the biggest housing in the world. But even in Oz which has bigger houses, the cost of building is much less per square meter.

              With the unaffordable unitary plan there was removing democracy, rubber stamping consents, losing greenfield spaces, removing character, but increasing density and sustainablility was missing.

              In short there needs to be more homes that can be run cheaper allowed on the land not larger buildings.

              And if anybody trys to put on a granny flat – no stone left unturned for the council to try and stop it.

              Don’t even think about buying land and putting on a yurt to live in! You will be prosecuted even if it’s on a lifestyle block in the middle of nowhere.

              Sadly in this country the government, local and central and more and more lobby groups are more interested in stopping many people being able to have housing and controlling it for profit and political reasons, while allowing richer people and businesses to do what ever they like with public resources.

              The result. Auckland. Man made housing crisis and increasingly, less ways to solve it. We now have a pollution and transport crisis to go with the housing and job and wages crisis.

      • aerobubble 1.1.2

        Oz govt desperate to shoreup is banking industries exposure to the Auckland housing market. First crims, now families foloowing their kids forced to goto uni in NZ. Both Nats and Liberals dont want a housing collapse on their watch. Though niether will anyone bother to build homes, less the class stratification of society turns round.

  1. Carolyn_nth 2

    What’s the Greens favourite phrase? keep cup? eh?

  2. Muttonbird 3

    I’d be interested in Marty Mars’ view on this. According to the chart he has a soul but is happy with the current government.

    The two are mutually exclusive, I would have thought.

  3. bwaghorn 4

    you missed

    most people are idiots ]


  4. xanthe 5

    Or just vote Internet Party

  5. DS 6

    The Maori Party *had* a soul. They sold it in exchange for ministerial limos.

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