What a jerk

Written By: - Date published: 7:41 am, March 27th, 2012 - 36 comments
Categories: brand key - Tags: ,

So let’s get this straight – the Prime Minister gets caught saying a few things he shouldn’t in a cafe so he brings the full weight of the state down on the freelance cameraman who caught said things on “tape”.

He then extorts a letter of apology out of that cameraman (presumably the word was “write this and the whole thing will go away”) and tries to use it to cover his arse politically by passing it to the media while claiming (falsely) that the actions of the cameraman were unlawful.

And now this PM is claiming he’s “turning the other cheek” (just like Jesus!)?

What a vile little jerk.

36 comments on “What a jerk”

  1. higherstandard 1

    Haven’t you got more important things to work yourself up about ?

    This is weird stuff from you IB.

    • bbfloyd 1.1

      right back at ya hs….. havn’t you got better things to do than make pointless comment on the internet?

      nothing “weird’ about johnny sparkles less than admirable personality…. not forgetting this creepy, twisted, lying money grubber is our PRIME MINISTER, and our representative on the world stage….

      i have to block that thought out or my stomach goes all queasy..

      • higherstandard 1.1.1

        Not at all, I usually enjoy Bill’s posts but this reads like a Zetetic diatribe.

        • IrishBill 1.1.1.1

          I was pissed off enough by the use of the police to bully Ambrose, the “turn the other cheek” comment pushed me to post. I expect people like Slater to bully and then hide behind victim rhetoric but for the PM to do it is vile.

  2. Kaplan 2

    Didn’t Ambrose seek a clarification on the privacy status only to be told that they wouldn’t rule on it when there was a potential criminal case pending.
    Can he pursue a judgement on the tapes legality now?
    I’d have thought he’d like to clear away the mud that Key and his cops have thrown around.

  3. Pascal's bookie 3

    Regarding the chilling effect of the way this has played out:

    Big story on the US campaign trail today is an open mike comment picked up between Obama and Medvedev ( http://bit.ly/GUjZ9X ).

    According to the warning given by the police, and by the principle Key says has been vindicated, reporting on this story would leave the media likely to face prosecution.

    • aerobubble 3.1

      Not the same. Key consented to have cameras rolling when he was having his self described private moment. A moment that was hustled onto the press without any notice that the public event was over for the moment. Could the PM lips be read? Yes. Did his staff have a duty to remove microphones if any where left? Unlike an open microphone in a public press conference.

      Look these politicians know there is a microphone there and know it will be recording, the expectation of privacy is lost. That’s not saying they don’t have privacy rights but they should get off the platform before expect privacy, and not demand as in the teapot case immediately compliance for privacy while shoving everyone out the door while sending the contradictory message that they can still film. Sorry, but you cannot choose to tell editors what they can publish and what they cannot just because you decide how jouralists should do their jobs.

      Journalist were invited, they weren’t explicit told, or had a chance, to decide to film but not record sound. Its simple contract law surely, if you at last moment decide they can film but not record sound then you have to provide a chance for reporters to have a due process chance of saying NO!

  4. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 4

    Hasn’t won you over, Irishbill?

    Now, there’s a surprise.

    • Pascal's bookie 4.1

      You’re a pretty straight up chap Barrel.

      Do you reckon Key’s been a dick about this?

      • Pete George 4.1.1

        PB, do you reckon if you were a straight up chap you’d also be complaining about nastiness directed at politicians here?

        • Pascal's bookie 4.1.1.1

          I’m not complaining about nastiness Pete. I’m calling you a hypocrite.

          • Pete George 4.1.1.1.1

            And I’m calling you a hypocrite. You’re the one sustaining personal attacks.

            • felix 4.1.1.1.1.1

              But that’s not what hypocrisy means, Pete.

              For P’s b to be hypocritical in this instance, he’d have to be making personal attacks while insisting that others shouldn’t.

              And he’s not, so he ain’t.

              Whereas you are, so you is.

              • “he’d have to be making personal attacks ”

                Which is what he’s been doing. He’s tried to explain around it by claiming that what I said was nasty, not that I was nasty, which you must admit is a bit contortionist.

                I don’t think PB is nasty, but his repeated attempts to label me as nasty sounds like a bit of nasty hypocrisy to me. But I doubt that will stop you trying to manoevre around a few phrases.

                • felix

                  Come on Pete, you’re not that thick. I know you read the whole sentence even though you only responded to the first half of it.

                  If the issue of hypocrisy was making attacks, he’d have to be doing that AND insisting that others shouldn’t.

                  That’s the definition of hypocrisy, Pete. And that’s what you’re doing.

            • Pascal's bookie 4.1.1.1.1.2

              Umm Pete, you are the one that lept into this thread attacking me.

              I’m not judging you for being nasty. I’m pointing out that you make nasty attacks. Thus, your regular attacks on people here for about nastiness are hypocritical.

              Perhaps you can explain, (on the other thread) how I am being a hypocrite.

        • Colonial Viper 4.1.1.2

          Nice little derail into an irrelevancy PG. Now, back to the actual topic of whether Key has been manipulative and a dick over his treatment of Ambrose.

          • tc 4.1.1.2.1

            ‘Nice little derail into an irrelevancy PG’
            Let a person do their job each to their own…what else has he got to do that carries value.

            • fender 4.1.1.2.1.1

              PG is a staunch defender of Key as his other idol the Hair shares a sleeping bag with Mr DicKey.
              But I was shocked to read PG climb in to the woodwork teacher, maybe PG is a metalwork lover or maybe Gerry threw PG down the stairs once.

              • You’re mistaken or making things up, I’ve never been a staunch defender of Key.

                I’ve defended and supported and criticised him to a similar degree I defended and supported and criticised Helen Clark.

  5. ianmac 5

    “And now this PM is claiming he’s “turning the other cheek” (just like Jesus!)?”
    Weird. Was Key a victim here? Was he maligned? Did Key get his cheek slapped in order for him to turn the other cheek?
    No! It is Ambrose who is turning his cheek after being maligned and denigrated and it is he who has great difficulty in clearing in his name because there will be no court to test the “unlawfulness.”
    Shame on Mr Key and the item above in Stuff just makes Mr Key look fragile and somewhat pathetic..

  6. ianmac 6

    And Ambrose did not apologise. His letter showed regret about the fuss which ensued. (Of Key’s making.) And denied that the recording was deliberate. This was consistent throughout all previous statements and consistent with the position Ambrose would have taken if the case had gone to be tested in court.

    • aerobubble 6.1

      Yes, someone is saying that he on second thoughts would rather not have been caught between a weak livid editor boss who wanted to string out a distraction to let their boy Key win for the ratings and the win-win in being soft on Key, and the PM whose staff at the last moment decided to renegotiated the terms of the press conference that it was sudden a partial private moment where cameras could record lips moving.

      Sorry but we don’t have a free press when the press does standup for one of their own.

    • David H 6.2

      What a pity he didn’t say “No lets take it to court” That would have put the cat among the pigeons. Personally I think Key should have been charged with wasting police time. And as for Banks he’s just a waste of space. But if you are in parliament, are you not supposed to do something, What has Banks done this term apart from slouch in his seat sneering at the opposition?

  7. muzza 7

    I suspect there is no shortage of jerks who have far too much affect on our lives.

    Key just happens to be the current front man!

    It certainly looks to be coming apart for him presently, the announcement while abroad illustrates this nicely!

  8. vto 8

    How can Key turn the other cheek when it wasn’t even his cheek that was slapped?

    If anyone is turning the other cheek it is ambrose.

    Piles and piles of horse shit. Key should bag it up and sell it out front of Parliament. 50c a bag.

    • Pascal's bookie 8.1

      Yeah, his stance is that he is turning the cheek to Ambrose’s outrageous behavior, after calling the cops on him, comparing him to a News of the World hack, and generally throwing his weight around.

      Very christ like of him.

  9. vto 9

    Stuff: “Bradley Ambrose penned a “letter of regret” to Mr Key, who agreed not to push for prosecution ”

    So, let’s get this as clear as possible …..

    The decision to prosecute is decided by John Key? Or is it independntly decided by Police? Or is it a Police decision, subject to how much “pushing” there is by John Key?

    Does anyone know how Police make decisions about prosecuting? Does it specifically allow for “pushing” by politicians?

    It is about as clear as mud. And as dangerous as quicksand. It looks like corruption, it sounds like corruption, so is it corruption? Are the Police compromised?

    I think we deserve to know the detailed answers ……..

  10. SHG 10

    Key can turn the other cheek now because the whole affair achieved its intended purpose. It got him votes in an election which is now over, so why waste any more time even thinking about it?

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      True, true.

      Key the currency trader has always known instinctively when there is no more yield left in a given position, at which point he dumps it and moves on.

    • ropata 10.2

      The affair got Winston more votes in the election and J.honKey was so pissed off he needed a convenient scapegoat to blame for a fuckup of his own making. (i.e. making snide asinine comments to buttlicker Banks)

  11. Kotahi Tane Huna 11

    Knee? Meet jerk.

    • vto 11.1

      .
      true kotahi
      scurrilous mahi
      do not your master trust

      watch the acts
      eye the tacks
      dry power be the lust

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    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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